Re: NET Rankings
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:49 am
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Dec 3. 2023
They blew them out. Point differential is capped but efficiency is notKevanBoyles wrote: ↑6 months ago How is UMass 94??? They've beaten Albany, Quinnipiac, Central Conn State, and South Florida and lost to Harvard, all at home.
Warren Nolan has our SOS at 79. UMass 102.RF1 wrote: ↑6 months ago Rhody's schedule to date is pretty much either feast or famine in SOS with no in between. URI has played THREE Quad 1 games, 1 Quad 3 game, and three Quad 4 games. Only about 30 other teams nationally have played that many or more Quad 1 games. No other A-10 team has played as many and several have none (Richmond, GMU, UMass, Fordham, SLU).
I think it's interesting just to see how you stack up, but nobody should really be too concerned with it both because we're not an at large candidate and because it's really, really early
Kenpom has ours at 174 and UMASS as 353.KevanBoyles wrote: ↑6 months agoWarren Nolan has our SOS at 79. UMass 102.RF1 wrote: ↑6 months ago Rhody's schedule to date is pretty much either feast or famine in SOS with no in between. URI has played THREE Quad 1 games, 1 Quad 3 game, and three Quad 4 games. Only about 30 other teams nationally have played that many or more Quad 1 games. No other A-10 team has played as many and several have none (Richmond, GMU, UMass, Fordham, SLU).
There are roughly 360 teams playing D-I basketball, so that's less than a 10 percent difference - roughly 6.3 percent. Also, that's assuming that their SOS formula uses ranks, instead of just calculating a number.KevanBoyles wrote: ↑6 months agoWarren Nolan has our SOS at 79. UMass 102.RF1 wrote: ↑6 months ago Rhody's schedule to date is pretty much either feast or famine in SOS with no in between. URI has played THREE Quad 1 games, 1 Quad 3 game, and three Quad 4 games. Only about 30 other teams nationally have played that many or more Quad 1 games. No other A-10 team has played as many and several have none (Richmond, GMU, UMass, Fordham, SLU).
They don't have one. It's for D1 schools only, and only games against D1 schools count for the NET ranking. That's why even though we're 5-3 when you look at the NET ranking site it says we're only 4-3
Oh, so it was stupid to schedule them and act like it was a real game? I get it. Can I have my money back?RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months agoThey don't have one. It's for D1 schools only, and only games against D1 schools count for the NET ranking. That's why even though we're 5-3 when you look at the NET ranking site it says we're only 4-3
Yup. I'm still not bullish on the A-10's ceiling but their floor is certainly WAY higher than last year.woodennickel1 wrote: ↑6 months ago Difference for A10 this year they have seven teams in top 100 where as I think last year they had two. Creates plenty of opportunity to move up.
I think that's fair - the A10 has no "unbeatable" teams, but it doesn't look like we're going to have any abjectly embarrassing 250+ teams either.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑6 months agoYup. I'm still not bullish on the A-10's ceiling but their floor is certainly WAY higher than last year.woodennickel1 wrote: ↑6 months ago Difference for A10 this year they have seven teams in top 100 where as I think last year they had two. Creates plenty of opportunity to move up.
It's the absolute worst composition for a multi bid scenario. An entire league jammed between 50-200... purgatory.Blue Man wrote: ↑6 months agoI think that's fair - the A10 has no "unbeatable" teams, but it doesn't look like we're going to have any abjectly embarrassing 250+ teams either.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑6 months agoYup. I'm still not bullish on the A-10's ceiling but their floor is certainly WAY higher than last year.woodennickel1 wrote: ↑6 months ago Difference for A10 this year they have seven teams in top 100 where as I think last year they had two. Creates plenty of opportunity to move up.
Not the best recipe for multiple NCAA bids, as everyone is going to kill each other in conference play, but definitely a door open for ANYONE (like URI) to win the conference.
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It'll be interesting to see how things shake out between seasons, especially with waivers being much more difficult for 2-two transfers to obtain. After a few years in the wilderness, so to speak, the A-10 might be positioned well to snag a couple of bids.bigappleram wrote: ↑6 months agoIt's the absolute worst composition for a multi bid scenario. An entire league jammed between 50-200... purgatory.Blue Man wrote: ↑6 months agoI think that's fair - the A10 has no "unbeatable" teams, but it doesn't look like we're going to have any abjectly embarrassing 250+ teams either.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑6 months ago
Yup. I'm still not bullish on the A-10's ceiling but their floor is certainly WAY higher than last year.
Not the best recipe for multiple NCAA bids, as everyone is going to kill each other in conference play, but definitely a door open for ANYONE (like URI) to win the conference.
In a league with that much parity coaching should play a major role. I like our chances there.
Possibly, but they have to finish their OOC schedule strong.SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months agoIt'll be interesting to see how things shake out between seasons, especially with waivers being much more difficult for 2-two transfers to obtain. After a few years in the wilderness, so to speak, the A-10 might be positioned well to snag a couple of bids.bigappleram wrote: ↑6 months agoIt's the absolute worst composition for a multi bid scenario. An entire league jammed between 50-200... purgatory.Blue Man wrote: ↑6 months ago
I think that's fair - the A10 has no "unbeatable" teams, but it doesn't look like we're going to have any abjectly embarrassing 250+ teams either.
Not the best recipe for multiple NCAA bids, as everyone is going to kill each other in conference play, but definitely a door open for ANYONE (like URI) to win the conference.
In a league with that much parity coaching should play a major role. I like our chances there.
I believe Archie and staff see it and are preparing this team to take advantage of it. We need to stay healthy, though.bigappleram wrote: ↑6 months agoIt's the absolute worst composition for a multi bid scenario. An entire league jammed between 50-200... purgatory.Blue Man wrote: ↑6 months agoI think that's fair - the A10 has no "unbeatable" teams, but it doesn't look like we're going to have any abjectly embarrassing 250+ teams either.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑6 months ago
Yup. I'm still not bullish on the A-10's ceiling but their floor is certainly WAY higher than last year.
Not the best recipe for multiple NCAA bids, as everyone is going to kill each other in conference play, but definitely a door open for ANYONE (like URI) to win the conference.
In a league with that much parity coaching should play a major role. I like our chances there.
So far, the A10 is the only mid-major conference that doesn't have a team with a losing OOC record.SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months agoIt'll be interesting to see how things shake out between seasons, especially with waivers being much more difficult for 2-two transfers to obtain. After a few years in the wilderness, so to speak, the A-10 might be positioned well to snag a couple of bids.bigappleram wrote: ↑6 months agoIt's the absolute worst composition for a multi bid scenario. An entire league jammed between 50-200... purgatory.Blue Man wrote: ↑6 months ago
I think that's fair - the A10 has no "unbeatable" teams, but it doesn't look like we're going to have any abjectly embarrassing 250+ teams either.
Not the best recipe for multiple NCAA bids, as everyone is going to kill each other in conference play, but definitely a door open for ANYONE (like URI) to win the conference.
In a league with that much parity coaching should play a major role. I like our chances there.
Actually, there are only 3 conferences with teams that don't have a losing record. B10, SEC and the A10.Jersey77 wrote: ↑6 months agoSo far, the A10 is the only mid-major conference that doesn't have a team with a losing OOC record.SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months agoIt'll be interesting to see how things shake out between seasons, especially with waivers being much more difficult for 2-two transfers to obtain. After a few years in the wilderness, so to speak, the A-10 might be positioned well to snag a couple of bids.bigappleram wrote: ↑6 months ago
It's the absolute worst composition for a multi bid scenario. An entire league jammed between 50-200... purgatory.
In a league with that much parity coaching should play a major role. I like our chances there.
steveystuds06 wrote: ↑6 months ago Here's a breakdown of our remaining schedule based on the current net rankings.
Quad 1 games- 2
Quad 2 games - 7
Quad 3 games- 9
Quad 4 games - 5
Q4 Brown
Q2 Col. of Charleston
Q2 Delaware
Q3 New Hampshire
Q4 Northeastern
Q3 Saint Joseph's
Q2 Davidson
Q3 Massachusetts
Q2 St. Bonaventure
Q1 Dayton
Q4 Fordham
Q1 George Mason
Q4 La Salle
Q3 Duquesne
Q2 George Washington
Q2 Massachusetts
Q3 Loyola Chicago
Q3 Richmond
Q3 La Salle
Q3 VCU
Q4 Saint Louis
Q2 George Mason
Q3 Fordham
Home and away games.jcru wrote: ↑6 months agosteveystuds06 wrote: ↑6 months ago Here's a breakdown of our remaining schedule based on the current net rankings.
Quad 1 games- 2
Quad 2 games - 7
Quad 3 games- 9
Quad 4 games - 5
Q4 Brown
Q2 Col. of Charleston
Q2 Delaware
Q3 New Hampshire
Q4 Northeastern
Q3 Saint Joseph's
Q2 Davidson
Q3 Massachusetts
Q2 St. Bonaventure
Q1 Dayton
Q4 Fordham
Q1 George Mason
Q4 La Salle
Q3 Duquesne
Q2 George Washington
Q2 Massachusetts
Q3 Loyola Chicago
Q3 Richmond
Q3 La Salle
Q3 VCU
Q4 Saint Louis
Q2 George Mason
Q3 Fordham
Why is Fordham a Q4 the first time we play them, but then a Q3 the second time we play them?
PRT, if you ever figure out the NET formula, let the rest of us know.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑6 months ago Somehow Fordham is ahead of us with an easier schedule, worse wins and worse losses.
Actually 15 I'm ok with it based on these two teams. Penn St ended last year at #41 and URI ended at #262. They both have similar records. But there are some glaring issues I'm not going into yet.Rhody15 wrote: ↑6 months agoThey are very similar.theblueram wrote: ↑6 months ago On the eve of the NET being released, I'm going to look at our NET vs Penn State. They should be very similar based on record. Let's hope so. I don't trust the NET.
170 for them, 192 for us.
So I take it you trust the NET now?
Much depends on how well freshman Javon Bennett and junior Kobe Elvis take up the slack for the loss of Malachi.KingstonLane wrote: ↑6 months ago Dayton will be on the bubble for an at large as long as they don’t pee down their leg during the remaining OOC schedule or have an overtly bad A10 performance
I think they’re already proved they’re competent enough to play well enough for an at large. One big OOC game left vs Cincy that would essentially lock them in if they wonJersey77 wrote: ↑6 months agoMuch depends on how well freshman Javon Bennett and junior Kobe Elvis take up the slack for the loss of Malachi.KingstonLane wrote: ↑6 months ago Dayton will be on the bubble for an at large as long as they don’t pee down their leg during the remaining OOC schedule or have an overtly bad A10 performance
I also feel they will get plenty of tough challenges in conference play.KingstonLane wrote: ↑6 months agoI think they’re already proved they’re competent enough to play well enough for an at large. One big OOC game left vs Cincy that would essentially lock them in if they wonJersey77 wrote: ↑6 months agoMuch depends on how well freshman Javon Bennett and junior Kobe Elvis take up the slack for the loss of Malachi.KingstonLane wrote: ↑6 months ago Dayton will be on the bubble for an at large as long as they don’t pee down their leg during the remaining OOC schedule or have an overtly bad A10 performance
But also a bunch of land mines in their remaining OOC. That was their fatal flaw some of the last few years
I thought Dayton would look worse without Smith, but they look the same. They are a very good team. Javon Bennet and Kobe have both had some great games. Brea and Santos are studs... Malachi is not a good scorer but he's a very strong distributor, but they are getting that collectively from other guys. They should win the A10.KingstonLane wrote: ↑6 months agoI think they’re already proved they’re competent enough to play well enough for an at large. One big OOC game left vs Cincy that would essentially lock them in if they wonJersey77 wrote: ↑6 months agoMuch depends on how well freshman Javon Bennett and junior Kobe Elvis take up the slack for the loss of Malachi.KingstonLane wrote: ↑6 months ago Dayton will be on the bubble for an at large as long as they don’t pee down their leg during the remaining OOC schedule or have an overtly bad A10 performance
But also a bunch of land mines in their remaining OOC. That was their fatal flaw some of the last few years
Transfer (F)Santos has been huge for them, he is much better than I thought.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑6 months agoI thought Dayton would look worse without Smith, but they look the same. They are a very good team. Javon Bennet and Kobe have both had some great games. Brea and Santos are studs... Malachi is not a good scorer but he's a very strong distributor, but they are getting that collectively from other guys. They should win the A10.KingstonLane wrote: ↑6 months agoI think they’re already proved they’re competent enough to play well enough for an at large. One big OOC game left vs Cincy that would essentially lock them in if they won
But also a bunch of land mines in their remaining OOC. That was their fatal flaw some of the last few years