Re: Tyrese Martin
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:31 am
These things are going to happen, DC. It happened to LaSalle just a few days ago, no?
I hope that is the last of it, however.
I hope that is the last of it, however.
That's the stuff that both scares me and pisses me off especially if the P5's start back door contacting good players from non P5s. I hate it and it's slimy. It will happen more and more if the sit out period gets waived.DC_Rams wrote: ↑4 years agoOh, I don’t know, but I’m sure people from one circle reached out to his circle.
So now we are LaSalle? Wow have we really started the fall back to mediocrity.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago These things are going to happen, DC. It happened to LaSalle just a few days ago, no?
I hope that is the last of it, however.
I agree with DCs reasoning...I think he was promised bright lights...now more than ever I hope the NCAA rethinks the no sit out rule. Look what it is doing right now to rosters everywhere.
Waitttt so this would be the end of CBB talent out side of P5 + BE? Fuck it, make the tournament have 32 teams then, what does it matter if all the other schools won't ever be able to compete.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years agoIf the new transfer rules happen, I'm expecting more situations like this. Cox (and every other coach, really) will have to re-recruit their entire roster every year. Safe to say he hasn't been successful thus far.
We're Atlantic 10Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years agoSo now we are LaSalle? Wow have we really started the fall back to mediocrity.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago These things are going to happen, DC. It happened to LaSalle just a few days ago, no?
I hope that is the last of it, however.
I agree with most of this, but it's hard to find other schools (Wichita State is maybe the only one) in as poor shape as URI is right now. The level of what's going on in Kingston isn't happening everywhere.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑4 years agoI agree with DCs reasoning...I think he was promised bright lights...now more than ever I hope the NCAA rethinks the no sit out rule. Look what it is doing right now to rosters everywhere.
Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 years agoTaylor Swift wrote: ↑4 years agoI know you pride yourself on berating college kids on social media. Now that a lot of us are working remotely maybe you can also do some personal reflection on how to act like an adult man and to not be a complete jerk. No one else here acts like this
Hopefully now I won't have to see you complain about people anymore since now with Rese transferring you will have less ammo. You don't even know where he's ending up, it might surprise you. Have a good day!
Honestly please just shut the hell up for once.
Who the hell are you to tell anyone to “shut the hell up”? Oh yeah, I forgot...you are a high school teacher who likes to berate young men on a sports board...Okay yes, I get it tough guy!Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 years agoTaylor Swift wrote: ↑4 years agoI know you pride yourself on berating college kids on social media. Now that a lot of us are working remotely maybe you can also do some personal reflection on how to act like an adult man and to not be a complete jerk. No one else here acts like this
Hopefully now I won't have to see you complain about people anymore since now with Rese transferring you will have less ammo. You don't even know where he's ending up, it might surprise you. Have a good day!
Honestly please just shut the hell up for once.
Witchita was in a weird spot as well two years ago when they had NINE players leave in a year (six seniors, 2 transfers and one ineligible) and had to replace them with a lot of similarly talented freshmen and incoming freshmen. Created a big logjam of PT and future success.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years agoI agree with most of this, but it's hard to find other schools (Wichita State is maybe the only one) in as poor shape as URI is right now. The level of what's going on in Kingston isn't happening everywhere.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑4 years agoI agree with DCs reasoning...I think he was promised bright lights...now more than ever I hope the NCAA rethinks the no sit out rule. Look what it is doing right now to rosters everywhere.
Baron 2.0 didn't seriously drop process twice in that short release. Tell me he didn't do itthatRamBand wrote: ↑4 years ago Cox quotes from the article:
“What I’m dealing with now is young men and families and camps who have huge aspirations but do not or refuse to deal with the actual process,” Cox said. “That word now – process or progression, those types of terms – has started to work against you in regards to recruiting some of these top young players.”
“We obviously will have to dive into it as a staff,” Cox said. “We have to continue to look at our recruitment and evaluation of players to make sure that it is the right fit. But there are a few variables that are out of our control.”
“We’ll recruit talent and we’ll recruit character,” Cox said. “The unknown is the desire of the family and the player. That’s the unknown.”
“We are in position to fill out this roster with quality players who fit specific needs,” Cox said. “We’re excited about the core group that’s returning and we’re excited about the incoming freshmen.”
I really don’t know, man.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago These things are going to happen, DC. It happened to LaSalle just a few days ago, no?
I hope that is the last of it, however.
When I think A10, LaSalle doesn't even cross my mind. Since they joined the A10 back in 1995 they have had 5 seasons above .500. Sorry if that's how you think of the A10 then we really are all doomed.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years agoWe're Atlantic 10Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years agoSo now we are LaSalle? Wow have we really started the fall back to mediocrity.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago These things are going to happen, DC. It happened to LaSalle just a few days ago, no?
I hope that is the last of it, however.
Exactly, sir!PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago His corner was basically telling him how small time Rhody is and with the new transfer rule he could go play in a P5 league.
I do blame Cox, but you cant denounce the fact that this new rule is going to fuck things up for mid-majors like us.
Going to have to find a way to persuade not only the player, but their entire corner too.
This is me shrugging my shoulders.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years agoWhen I think A10, LaSalle doesn't even cross my mind. Since they joined the A10 back in 1995 they have had 5 seasons above .500. Sorry if that's how you think of the A10 then we really are all doomed.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years agoWe're Atlantic 10Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years ago
So now we are LaSalle? Wow have we really started the fall back to mediocrity.
DC....this is more of a question for you than a comment...DC_Rams wrote: ↑4 years agoI really don’t know, man.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago These things are going to happen, DC. It happened to LaSalle just a few days ago, no?
I hope that is the last of it, however.
I just don’t know.
And that sucks.
You guys are right, I really do love the staff, and feel horribly for them.
Just wish everything was more transparent.
Hopefully good news is on the way.
In my Mazz voice "Yea lets go get a kid who is bound for Duke, he would rather come here. Look what we can offer. He can room with his friend."Section104 wrote: ↑4 years ago Go get Alan Griffin and you have an upgrade over Martin. Friends with Toppin. Likely bound for Duke, but maybe Jacob can throw a lifeline out and communicate the immediate impact he'd have on the program.
I didn't think it was a fit yesterday since he's a similar player to Martin, but now...
haha I didn't say it was realistic! No idea what he's looking for, but we do have more PT, a friend, and...okay yeah I'm not sure what else we have to offer.Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑4 years agoIn my Mazz voice "Yea lets go get a kid who is bound for Duke, he would rather come here. Look what we can offer. He can room with his friend."Section104 wrote: ↑4 years ago Go get Alan Griffin and you have an upgrade over Martin. Friends with Toppin. Likely bound for Duke, but maybe Jacob can throw a lifeline out and communicate the immediate impact he'd have on the program.
I didn't think it was a fit yesterday since he's a similar player to Martin, but now...
I mean I like them personally. All great people. That’s all.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑4 years agoDC....this is more of a question for you than a comment...DC_Rams wrote: ↑4 years agoI really don’t know, man.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago These things are going to happen, DC. It happened to LaSalle just a few days ago, no?
I hope that is the last of it, however.
I just don’t know.
And that sucks.
You guys are right, I really do love the staff, and feel horribly for them.
Just wish everything was more transparent.
Hopefully good news is on the way.
When you say “staff” are you saying you really love the coaching staff as it is composed currently?
I will tell you, or anyone, I am a big fan of Cox. I am not sure I agree with how the rest of the staff is constituted. The Jury is out in the Carrolls. I don’t think we are getting “bang for the buck” currently with the 2 of them. I don’t know whether Sutton has the recruiting connections we need, but know he is big on leadership. I love TJ but I do not know his strengths and what he brings to the coaching staff.
I agree with you. I like college basketball more than any sport. I have so little interest in next years team no matter who they sign. This new rule will ruin college basketball. I’m not sure what any of the assistant coaches are doing? Do any of them build relationships with these players or are we just taking the approach that there is nothing we can do and everyone has an excuse for why they are leaving?JimSidd wrote: ↑4 years ago While this will certainly hurt Rhody in the short term, this is a much larger issue for me. This flood of transfers these last couple of years is making me less of a fan of the sport. Honestly, while I will continue to watch the tournament, I probably won’t watch as much in the regular season. This AAU culture is ruining the sport. Kids being told they’re the greatest since they were ten years old, jumping from high school to high school or prep school to prep school, many of them being used by adults, in some cases, their own parents .... seedy and sad. Transferring colleges is just a continuation of this. It sure how many games I will attend after my daughters graduate next year. It’s sad, because I like going and attended every home game this past season, plus the Brown game. I also bought three tournament packages.
As for Rhody, one can help what’s going on with the staff, but I’ll leave that to others. I think in the short term, Cox needs to go full Mussellman and hit the transfer portal hard.
rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago I'm still not ready to panic just yet, but I admit. If Fatts goes too, I might have to sign off for awhile.
With Fatts, Sheppard, Ish, Wood, Berry, Toppin, Walker, Harris, the twins?, Abou?, and possibly a wing shooter, it's still a fairly powerful team for this conference.
Take away Fatts? Not so much.
rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago I'm still not ready to panic just yet, but I admit. If Fatts goes too, I might have to sign off for awhile.
With Fatts, Sheppard, Ish, Wood, Berry, Toppin, Walker, Harris, the twins?, Abou?, and possibly a wing shooter, it's still a fairly powerful team for this conference.
Take away Fatts? Not so much.
You can stop watching and stop going. That is about it.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago What can you do? If the NCAA says it's a free for all, there really isn't much you can do to hold someone here. They have to want to be here.
rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago You are probably right, 22. But, now there is no choice... good, bad, or ugly... next year is the Fatts show. Enjoy the ride.
Which rosters? Look at what's happening now as a "result" of this change:LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑4 years agoI agree with DCs reasoning...I think he was promised bright lights...now more than ever I hope the NCAA rethinks the no sit out rule. Look what it is doing right now to rosters everywhere.
Cmon. No good transfers are coming to URI. We aren’t going to be able to fill six spots or find anyone who will contribute as much as Fatts. We would bring in someone that couldn’t contribute at another school and had to drop down a level. Wins or loses don’t matter for next year as we aren’t going to the tournament, but we aren’t going to be able to fill six spots if he leaves. I have never seen anything like this. Maybe Cox should get on the phone to the remaining few players today.Rhody22 wrote: ↑4 years agorhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago You are probably right, 22. But, now there is no choice... good, bad, or ugly... next year is the Fatts show. Enjoy the ride.
I know! As much as it would hurt our W/L I wouldn’t be too sad if Fatts left this year also and we could get a good PG transfer to help bridge us over for a year or 2.
Responses like this also tend to sound pretty entitled and self-absorbed. And they are coming from adults! Also Tyrese is Gen Z for the record.NJRhodyFan wrote: ↑4 years ago This is emblematic of the millennial generation. Martin is just another entitled, self-absorbed kid who has no sense of team, no sense of commitment, wants everything handed to him on a silver platter. I'm sure many will disagree with my negative take, but that's okay. We'll all entitled to our opinion. Good riddance, Martin. I won't be rooting for you.
Why not compare to Wichita?Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoWhich rosters? Look at what's happening now as a "result" of this change:LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑4 years agoI agree with DCs reasoning...I think he was promised bright lights...now more than ever I hope the NCAA rethinks the no sit out rule. Look what it is doing right now to rosters everywhere.
A10 Teams With 3 Transfers:
URI
UMass
A10 Teams With 2 Transfers:
GW
A10 Teams With 1 Transfer:
Duquesne
George Mason
St Joes
Bonnies
A10 Teams With 0 Transfers
Dayton
Davidson
Fordham
La Salle
St Louis
VCU
Also -
UConn - 1
PC - 0
Now before someone mentions Wichita State's transfer issues to compare them to ours:
1) don't.
Their coach brought them to 7 straight NCAA tournaments, 5 as at large births. Marshall brought them to a final four 7 years ago. Sweet 16 5 years ago, and won a game 3 years ago. They were on the bubble similar to URI this year. I think you can point to this new transfer rule as an issue for them since there's been an established program under him.
All we've seen so far under this new staff is transfers. Enough transfers and pre-graduation departures to fill up an entire (still active) basketball roster. A team with Martin, Tate, and Long could probably win some A-10 games. If the Fatts rumors wind up being substantiated (I thought it was internet bullshit but now I'm REALLLLLLY starting to wonder) - we have crossed into full blown pandemic level disaster.
At some point this is on the coach. Whatever the "reason" is - "handlers" "administration" "bad luck" etc...it's becoming a trend.
Now we're getting into Cox's "guys" that he brought in himself. Not sure if this is on recruiting, or coaching - but if you can't keep the guys you recruited together - what's the point? What was the point of recruiting - Silverio, Hammond, Mading, Tate, Long, etc if you couldn't follow through on what you promised them, couldn't gauge their talent, didn't know who they had around them, etc...
Putting the blame all on the players sounds really familiar - but I'm used to it coming from a mouth with a very large mustache.
LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑4 years agoWhy not compare to Wichita?Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoWhich rosters? Look at what's happening now as a "result" of this change:LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑4 years ago
I agree with DCs reasoning...I think he was promised bright lights...now more than ever I hope the NCAA rethinks the no sit out rule. Look what it is doing right now to rosters everywhere.
A10 Teams With 3 Transfers:
URI
UMass
A10 Teams With 2 Transfers:
GW
A10 Teams With 1 Transfer:
Duquesne
George Mason
St Joes
Bonnies
A10 Teams With 0 Transfers
Dayton
Davidson
Fordham
La Salle
St Louis
VCU
Also -
UConn - 1
PC - 0
Now before someone mentions Wichita State's transfer issues to compare them to ours:
1) don't.
Their coach brought them to 7 straight NCAA tournaments, 5 as at large births. Marshall brought them to a final four 7 years ago. Sweet 16 5 years ago, and won a game 3 years ago. They were on the bubble similar to URI this year. I think you can point to this new transfer rule as an issue for them since there's been an established program under him.
All we've seen so far under this new staff is transfers. Enough transfers and pre-graduation departures to fill up an entire (still active) basketball roster. A team with Martin, Tate, and Long could probably win some A-10 games. If the Fatts rumors wind up being substantiated (I thought it was internet bullshit but now I'm REALLLLLLY starting to wonder) - we have crossed into full blown pandemic level disaster.
At some point this is on the coach. Whatever the "reason" is - "handlers" "administration" "bad luck" etc...it's becoming a trend.
Now we're getting into Cox's "guys" that he brought in himself. Not sure if this is on recruiting, or coaching - but if you can't keep the guys you recruited together - what's the point? What was the point of recruiting - Silverio, Hammond, Mading, Tate, Long, etc if you couldn't follow through on what you promised them, couldn't gauge their talent, didn't know who they had around them, etc...
Putting the blame all on the players sounds really familiar - but I'm used to it coming from a mouth with a very large mustache.
I understand the challenge of recruiting 6 new players but the spiral started when these 2 things happened:RamStock wrote: ↑4 years agoCmon. No good transfers are coming to URI. We aren’t going to be able to fill six spots or find anyone who will contribute as much as Fatts. We would bring in someone that couldn’t contribute at another school and had to drop down a level. Wins or loses don’t matter for next year as we aren’t going to the tournament, but we aren’t going to be able to fill six spots if he leaves. I have never seen anything like this. Maybe Cox should get on the phone to the remaining few players today.Rhody22 wrote: ↑4 years agorhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago You are probably right, 22. But, now there is no choice... good, bad, or ugly... next year is the Fatts show. Enjoy the ride.
I know! As much as it would hurt our W/L I wouldn’t be too sad if Fatts left this year also and we could get a good PG transfer to help bridge us over for a year or 2.