Re: Providence 2019 NCAA Men's Hockey Regional
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:25 am
People need to stop thinking about what they personally think of hockey. It's not relevant and you shouldn't want a University athletic department to act on what you like and what your whims are, you should want them to act on what's best for the department. Will costs be higher for hockey than golf? Probably, though I think golf costs are higher than people think. The big difference however is golf brings in zero, or almost zero revenue. That wouldn't be the case for hockey, which between tickets, sponsorships, and even modest TV and conference money would bring in revenue. Plus, while people don't think much of college hockey's visibility, it's certainly higher than that of college golf, which helps the school's reputation in the northeast, which is where most of our students come from, so it pretty relevant.ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoIt’s a question of how much money is being “burned” or “invested” in the School depending on how you look at itRhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoEvery athletic program other than men's basketball is lighting money on fire. It's about finding the best ways to do that.
To compare Hockey to Golf I’d think Hockey would have a higher cost due to HC and Assistant Salaries, recruiting budgets, Insurance for Injuries, Equipment and Uniforms, Travel, Building Costs, Tickets and Administration.
Do you know what Thor and Dooley think of going D1 Hockey? What are their Pros and Cons
Interesting Bryant doesn’t have D1 Hockey, being in Northern RI. Southern RI does not seem to share the same level of interest as Central and Northern RI.
Only 60 Schools have D1 Hockey Nationally, compared to 353 D1 Basketball teams
Do Thor and Dooley have any plans for D1 Hockey in the future? What would make sense is that we already have the arena.
I wouldn’t want to give up Any current sports for Hockey, especially Football.....IF hockey HAS to be added. I’m just not a Hockey fan. Only Boston Bruins at playoff time, not even during the season. I’ll go to any URI sport, men’s or women’s, and I do, but a Hockey game would be a tough sell for me.
I wouldn’t want my personal feelings for a sport impact my decision making as to whether URI should or should not have D1 Hockey.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoPeople need to stop thinking about what they personally think of hockey. It's not relevant and you shouldn't want a University athletic department to act on what you like and what your whims are, you should want them to act on what's best for the department. Will costs be higher for hockey than golf? Probably, though I think golf costs are higher than people think. The big difference however is golf brings in zero, or almost zero revenue. That wouldn't be the case for hockey, which between tickets, sponsorships, and even modest TV and conference money would bring in revenue. Plus, while people don't think much of college hockey's visibility, it's certainly higher than that of college golf, which helps the school's reputation in the northeast, which is where most of our students come from, so it pretty relevant.ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoIt’s a question of how much money is being “burned” or “invested” in the School depending on how you look at itRhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Every athletic program other than men's basketball is lighting money on fire. It's about finding the best ways to do that.
To compare Hockey to Golf I’d think Hockey would have a higher cost due to HC and Assistant Salaries, recruiting budgets, Insurance for Injuries, Equipment and Uniforms, Travel, Building Costs, Tickets and Administration.
Do you know what Thor and Dooley think of going D1 Hockey? What are their Pros and Cons
Interesting Bryant doesn’t have D1 Hockey, being in Northern RI. Southern RI does not seem to share the same level of interest as Central and Northern RI.
Only 60 Schools have D1 Hockey Nationally, compared to 353 D1 Basketball teams
Do Thor and Dooley have any plans for D1 Hockey in the future? What would make sense is that we already have the arena.
I wouldn’t want to give up Any current sports for Hockey, especially Football.....IF hockey HAS to be added. I’m just not a Hockey fan. Only Boston Bruins at playoff time, not even during the season. I’ll go to any URI sport, men’s or women’s, and I do, but a Hockey game would be a tough sell for me.
Why have we had golf over hockey as a northeast school? That's a great question that I have no good answer to. Perhaps it's as simple as we didn't have a rink before and because we have had golf and haven't had hockey we've just kept things the way they were. In my experience doing things the same way that you've always done even when better alternatives exist isn't a good idea
No, it’s not entirely fair, only a factor, no one factor is the deciding factor.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago Basing the decision on hockey based on the schools who play is not entirely fair. On a national level, it’s true. On a local school, every major state university in New England fields a college hockey team. The following are the New England hockey teams: AIC, Bentley, BC, BU, Brown, UCONN, Dartmouth, Harvard, Holy Cross, Maine, UMASS, UMASS-Lowell, Merrimack, UNH, Northeastern, PC, Quinnipiac, Sacred Heart, UVM, and Yale. If you expand further to include New York, you would add in colleges and universities including Army, Canisius, Clarkson, Colgate, Cornell, Niagara, RPI, RIT, St. Lawrence, and Union. College Hockey has a heavy northeastern presence. It’s going to draw better in this area of the country than say baseball.
To be fair, the heart of this arguing back and forth isn't about the totality of the factors based on a decision to field a hockey team (which there are many, many factors), but rather the thought that hockey should not ever be a consideration because it is a nichy, regional sport and the idea that pulling one dollar from any one sport would be a waste of an investment.ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoNo, it’s not entirely fair, only a factor, no one factor is the deciding factor.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago Basing the decision on hockey based on the schools who play is not entirely fair. On a national level, it’s true. On a local school, every major state university in New England fields a college hockey team. The following are the New England hockey teams: AIC, Bentley, BC, BU, Brown, UCONN, Dartmouth, Harvard, Holy Cross, Maine, UMASS, UMASS-Lowell, Merrimack, UNH, Northeastern, PC, Quinnipiac, Sacred Heart, UVM, and Yale. If you expand further to include New York, you would add in colleges and universities including Army, Canisius, Clarkson, Colgate, Cornell, Niagara, RPI, RIT, St. Lawrence, and Union. College Hockey has a heavy northeastern presence. It’s going to draw better in this area of the country than say baseball.
What is interesting about URI is we already have the Boss Arena and still we don’t go D1. Would be some great discussion with Thor. He has given very clearly his feelings and future vision for Football but I have not heard about Hockey
I’m good with the Club Level as it is and will follow whatever direction Thor and Dooley want to lead us to on this.
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I would say it’s uniquely different situations.
Ticket prices for the Frozen Four Hockey National Championships continue to dropRF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago Was in downtown Providence by the Dunkin Donuts Center while the two hockey games (PC-Minneota State and Northeastern-Cornell) were going on yesterday. Was surprised by the lack of activity in the area. Would not have known there really was any event going on based on the view outside the arena while fans were inside watching the games. Did not really see much activity in the businesses near the arena nor much signage proclaiming the presence of the event nor welcoming fans. It was far different than the atmosphere that has surrounded the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament when the arena and city have hosted in the past.
I must say I was shocked at how quiet it was by LaSalle Square yesterday. One of the teams in this regional, PC, is located in the city just 2 miles away. The Northeastern Huskies are just an hour up the road in Boston. Cornell may be six hours away in New York state but it has a lot of alumni much closer. Only Minnesota State came a long distance and was a difficult trip for its fans. Given the lack of any real atmosphere for the event outside the arena or anywhere downtown for that matter, I was curious to see what the attendance for the event was. Only 7,180 filled the 11,075 seat hockey configuration of the DDC. That translated to just 64% of the facility's seats being occupied for one of the four regionals for college hockey's D1 national championship tournament, its premier event.
My experience having been by the DDC for both an NCAA Men's basketball and hockey regional showed stark contrasts between the events. Not being a big follower of college hockey, it surprised me a bit to see what little excitement and fans it generated. It further confirmed my feeling, that while there are some very passionate fans, the overall fan numbers are not large and illustrated to me that hockey is much more a niche sport than is basketball. I had thought it was a unfair for PC to be sited at the DDC given it would likelly be a big home advantage to them. I found it strange that the NCAA has routinely put them at the DDC several times. What I saw yesterday around the DDC and today when I looked up the box score attendance however helped explain why. The college NCAA hockey tournament is not really a big draw on its own. It desperately needs local team's fans just to fill a little over half an arena for its premier event.
If you add both men's and women's hockey with the same # of scholarships, don't they even out?Ramulous wrote: ↑5 years ago My understanding is that to fund a new sport for men it sets off a chain of events...
....if you increase scholarships to men by say 24 ( is that the number allowed in NCAA hockey ?) ...then you either drop 24 men's scholarships from other sports...or their equivalent....
Say the baseball team gives out a total of 10 scholarships in various fractions.....then you can reduce a few through smaller fractions....
Then you can take some away piecemeal from other non-revenue sports to try to total 24....
Whatever number reduces the 24....let's say 10...brings us to 14...then we must increase total scholarships for women by 14 full scholarships or fractional scholarships to add up to 14...
It is painful no matter which way you go.....I love hockey.....but I don't think we can afford it....financially or the damage done to existing sports by cutting scholarships....
Well that's smart on PC's part. Northeast baseball doesn't produce revenue, northeast hockey does. This doesn't even get into something like golf which we sponsor
The maximum for hockey is 18. How many do we offer to golf and the various track and field programs? Those would be the most logical places to take scholarships from. Let's say you replace golf with hockey and offer the full complement of scholarships. Golf has a maximum of 4.5 scholarships, though I don't know how much we offer. For the sake of argument let's say 4. That means you only need to reallocate 14 scholarships from other men's programs that don't bring in revenue, thus meaning hockey costs almost no extra money and actually brings something in, or you have to add 14 women's scholarships. That DOESN'T necessarily mean you need to add women's hockey or another women's sport. You can also fully allocate scholarships to existing programs if you aren't alreadyRamulous wrote: ↑5 years ago My understanding is that to fund a new sport for men it sets off a chain of events...
....if you increase scholarships to men by say 24 ( is that the number allowed in NCAA hockey ?) ...then you either drop 24 men's scholarships from other sports...or their equivalent....
Say the baseball team gives out a total of 10 scholarships in various fractions.....then you can reduce a few through smaller fractions....
Then you can take some away piecemeal from other non-revenue sports to try to total 24....
Whatever number reduces the 24....let's say 10...brings us to 14...then we must increase total scholarships for women by 14 full scholarships or fractional scholarships to add up to 14...
It is painful no matter which way you go.....I love hockey.....but I don't think we can afford it....financially or the damage done to existing sports by cutting scholarships....
As literally 95% of events do on StubHubramster wrote: ↑5 years agoTicket prices for the Frozen Four Hockey National Championships continue to dropRF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago Was in downtown Providence by the Dunkin Donuts Center while the two hockey games (PC-Minneota State and Northeastern-Cornell) were going on yesterday. Was surprised by the lack of activity in the area. Would not have known there really was any event going on based on the view outside the arena while fans were inside watching the games. Did not really see much activity in the businesses near the arena nor much signage proclaiming the presence of the event nor welcoming fans. It was far different than the atmosphere that has surrounded the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament when the arena and city have hosted in the past.
I must say I was shocked at how quiet it was by LaSalle Square yesterday. One of the teams in this regional, PC, is located in the city just 2 miles away. The Northeastern Huskies are just an hour up the road in Boston. Cornell may be six hours away in New York state but it has a lot of alumni much closer. Only Minnesota State came a long distance and was a difficult trip for its fans. Given the lack of any real atmosphere for the event outside the arena or anywhere downtown for that matter, I was curious to see what the attendance for the event was. Only 7,180 filled the 11,075 seat hockey configuration of the DDC. That translated to just 64% of the facility's seats being occupied for one of the four regionals for college hockey's D1 national championship tournament, its premier event.
My experience having been by the DDC for both an NCAA Men's basketball and hockey regional showed stark contrasts between the events. Not being a big follower of college hockey, it surprised me a bit to see what little excitement and fans it generated. It further confirmed my feeling, that while there are some very passionate fans, the overall fan numbers are not large and illustrated to me that hockey is much more a niche sport than is basketball. I had thought it was a unfair for PC to be sited at the DDC given it would likelly be a big home advantage to them. I found it strange that the NCAA has routinely put them at the DDC several times. What I saw yesterday around the DDC and today when I looked up the box score attendance however helped explain why. The college NCAA hockey tournament is not really a big draw on its own. It desperately needs local team's fans just to fill a little over half an arena for its premier event.
Can now buy on StubHub a ticket to the National Championship for just $80
Or get all Sessions for $150 - includes both Semifinal games and National Championship game
But if you wait will likely get cheaper
The major point is how cheap the tickets are for the Final 4 and Championship Game.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoAs literally 95% of events do on StubHubramster wrote: ↑5 years agoTicket prices for the Frozen Four Hockey National Championships continue to dropRF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago Was in downtown Providence by the Dunkin Donuts Center while the two hockey games (PC-Minneota State and Northeastern-Cornell) were going on yesterday. Was surprised by the lack of activity in the area. Would not have known there really was any event going on based on the view outside the arena while fans were inside watching the games. Did not really see much activity in the businesses near the arena nor much signage proclaiming the presence of the event nor welcoming fans. It was far different than the atmosphere that has surrounded the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament when the arena and city have hosted in the past.
I must say I was shocked at how quiet it was by LaSalle Square yesterday. One of the teams in this regional, PC, is located in the city just 2 miles away. The Northeastern Huskies are just an hour up the road in Boston. Cornell may be six hours away in New York state but it has a lot of alumni much closer. Only Minnesota State came a long distance and was a difficult trip for its fans. Given the lack of any real atmosphere for the event outside the arena or anywhere downtown for that matter, I was curious to see what the attendance for the event was. Only 7,180 filled the 11,075 seat hockey configuration of the DDC. That translated to just 64% of the facility's seats being occupied for one of the four regionals for college hockey's D1 national championship tournament, its premier event.
My experience having been by the DDC for both an NCAA Men's basketball and hockey regional showed stark contrasts between the events. Not being a big follower of college hockey, it surprised me a bit to see what little excitement and fans it generated. It further confirmed my feeling, that while there are some very passionate fans, the overall fan numbers are not large and illustrated to me that hockey is much more a niche sport than is basketball. I had thought it was a unfair for PC to be sited at the DDC given it would likelly be a big home advantage to them. I found it strange that the NCAA has routinely put them at the DDC several times. What I saw yesterday around the DDC and today when I looked up the box score attendance however helped explain why. The college NCAA hockey tournament is not really a big draw on its own. It desperately needs local team's fans just to fill a little over half an arena for its premier event.
Can now buy on StubHub a ticket to the National Championship for just $80
Or get all Sessions for $150 - includes both Semifinal games and National Championship game
But if you wait will likely get cheaper
Just because tickets on Stubhub have not sold yet isn't quite indicative of anything.ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoThe major point is how cheap the tickets are for the Final 4 and Championship Game.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoAs literally 95% of events do on StubHubramster wrote: ↑5 years ago
Ticket prices for the Frozen Four Hockey National Championships continue to drop
Can now buy on StubHub a ticket to the National Championship for just $80
Or get all Sessions for $150 - includes both Semifinal games and National Championship game
But if you wait will likely get cheaper
Plays to how quiet and unattended the Hockey was in Providence as RF1 began the thread with.
Not only was it dead in Providence, sounds like not so much excitement in Buffalo either.
I guess the point is, why does that opinion matter? When is the last time you went to a golf match? When is the last time you went to a baseball game? If these are so widely popular, how come no one goes to them? How come baseball, a nationally-known, "America's past-time," non-nichy sport has only 200 in attendance, and the crappy, nichy, regional club sports team out-draws them? Isn't it kind of embarrassing that group of students that were accepted at URI for their academics and often have to pay for aspects of their participation in a team have more in attendance than a team that is funded by the athletic department and given scholarships due to their athletic abilities? And to be clear, it's not embarrassing to the players. I think it’s embarrassing to the people like you who puff their chests about hockey is stupid and a bad sport and how no one cares about it compared to baseball, yet no one goes to watch baseball and more people do go to watch non athletic department hockey program. I’m not even much of a hockey fan myself for the record, I just think the uneducated dismissiveness people talk about hockey is gross.
You’re taking a farcical and hyperbolic argument way too literally. The main gist here is that adding hockey does nothing for me as a fan. I’ll never go to a hockey game, either. At least if the golf or baseball team does well, it puts a smile on my face. In reality, the school isn’t going to have a hockey program that benefits the other sports programs so that really isn’t a worthwhile thing to argue about.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago I guess I just don’t understand it - Why would you be embarrassed that your alma mater was pumping out elite NHL talent? From a financial standpoint, that scenario probably helps the sports you do care about as those alumni make money and give back to the school.
I know exactly what I’m talking about. I get that you don’t like my opinion and you’d prefer I share your wrong opinion, but that doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoAnd you don't know your ass from your elbow on this topic and other people do so
But I guess this is what I’m getting at - I think you are part of a majority, a majority that lives in a world that says “Baseball is great and it’s America’s team and every college should have baseball (or golf).” But yet if I’m a betting man, I’m going to bet that since you (and most like you) graduated URI, the amount of URI baseball or golf you’ve attended is probably counted on one hand. You probably don’t go out of your way to watch any games, with the exception of late-season/postseason play. Yet the thought of getting more people excited on campus with a division one hockey team is a non-starter for you just because you don’t “love” hockey, when in reality you are doing nothing to support the other sports besides that “smile” you make when you see the team is semi-successful. You should want what is best for your alma mater, period. If someone decided they could make hockey fit and they felt resources would be better used there, you should support that. And if you love golf so much that it would pain you to see resources allocated away from it, maybe you should find different ways to support them now. And if at that future (probably non-existent) time someone would say “Sorry we are taking away golf scholarships and moving them to hockey,” I will build the twenty foot pulpit for you to preach from about how terrible an idea it is. It’s just about consistency. And maybe I’m really off-base, but the 200 people attending the baseball games does not speak to a large number of students, alumni, or local fans expressing much interest in the program, yet would suffer brain aneurysms if one penny was allocated from baseball to hockey.TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years agoYou’re taking a farcical and hyperbolic argument way too literally. The main gist here is that adding hockey does nothing for me as a fan. I’ll never go to a hockey game, either. At least if the golf or baseball team does well, it puts a smile on my face. In reality, the school isn’t going to have a hockey program that benefits the other sports programs so that really isn’t a worthwhile thing to argue about.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago I guess I just don’t understand it - Why would you be embarrassed that your alma mater was pumping out elite NHL talent? From a financial standpoint, that scenario probably helps the sports you do care about as those alumni make money and give back to the school.
But if baseball is so popular, how come no one goes to the games? URI has 15k undergrads, another 50k that have graduated in the last 10 years, and plenty of baseball fans in south county. Yet the average attendance is 200 fans. Parents, family, and friends probably encompass most of that number.
It's not the end all and be all, but it's a lot better factor than The True Point HotTakezzzz Best Sports Power Index Poll. Also attendance has come up because people that don't want hockey say we shouldn't have it because of attendance reasons.TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago Because they’re played during the day when people are working and it’s typically 40-50 degrees out. Obviously baseball was not built for a college student audience, especially in 2019, for attention span reasons. How did we land on number of people attending games live as the all-important factor here? Do college sports exist solely to provide entertainment to people who live near campus?
When we are talking about how popular and important a sport is on campus, how else do you measure interest? This whole thread started off a post discussing attendance. Obviously not all sports are about attendance production, but baseball specifically came up when you declared how much more popular it was. Popularity should correlate with attendance, no?TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago Because they’re played during the day when people are working and it’s typically 40-50 degrees out. Obviously baseball was not built for a college student audience, especially in 2019, for attention span reasons. How did we land on number of people attending games live as the all-important factor here? Do college sports exist solely to provide entertainment to people who live near campus?
Strong disagreeRhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoTruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago Because they’re played during the day when people are working and it’s typically 40-50 degrees out. Obviously baseball was not built for a college student audience, especially in 2019, for attention span reasons. How did we land on number of people attending games live as the all-important factor here? Do college sports exist solely to provide entertainment to people who live near campus?
it's a lot better factor than The True Point HotTakezzzz Best Sports Power Index Poll
In all seriousness, I feel like in between quasi-trolling provocations of hockey fans, I have actually laid out the real case against adding hockey. The argument from me has never been that literally nobody will go watch a hockey game, it’s a cost benefit analysis that assumes hockey will not attract enough of an audience to make adding it worthwhile. Baseball has value as a connector with Americana, with other schools around the country, with tradition (in a general sense, not specifically citing any glorious URI-specific baseball tradition, although I assume we have been playing for a long time). Baseball got brought into this because someone said basically “hey if you think not enough people attend hockey, what about baseball” but really it shouldn’t be part of this discussion. The tl;dr version of this whole argument is that hockey would require a financial commitment that I don’t think is justifiable, either by cutting other sports or taking away from other sports’ funding - or more likely both/and.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoIt's not the end all and be all, but it's a lot better factor than The True Point HotTakezzzz Best Sports Power Index Poll. Also attendance has come up because people that don't want hockey say we shouldn't have it because of attendance reasons.TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago Because they’re played during the day when people are working and it’s typically 40-50 degrees out. Obviously baseball was not built for a college student audience, especially in 2019, for attention span reasons. How did we land on number of people attending games live as the all-important factor here? Do college sports exist solely to provide entertainment to people who live near campus?
Can get tix for both games in the semifinals today for only 32.50 each. Very cheap for a Final 4.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoJust because tickets on Stubhub have not sold yet isn't quite indicative of anything.
The Frozen Four isn't until next week.
For the last decade has at-worst been a near sellout, and typically is a sellout.
It’s just literally a moronic take. You can’t compare hockey to basketball or football. You can literally go to buy baseball tickets for the entire College World Series for 56 cents per game. So if $32 is cheap for hockey, what does that make baseball? So clearly you don’t know what Final Four tickets go for in most sports, unless of course you are trying to compete the Frozen Four to the Final Four.ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoCan get tix for both games in the semifinals today for only 32.50 each. Very cheap for a Final 4.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoJust because tickets on Stubhub have not sold yet isn't quite indicative of anything.
The Frozen Four isn't until next week.
For the last decade has at-worst been a near sellout, and typically is a sellout.
As usual RJ you have to resort to calling people morons. Stop with the insults.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoIt’s just literally a moronic take. You can’t compare hockey to basketball or football. You can literally go to buy baseball tickets for the entire College World Series for 56 cents per game. So if $32 is cheap for hockey, what does that make baseball? So clearly you don’t know what Final Four tickets go for in most sports, unless of course you are trying to compete the Frozen Four to the Final Four.ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoCan get tix for both games in the semifinals today for only 32.50 each. Very cheap for a Final 4.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Just because tickets on Stubhub have not sold yet isn't quite indicative of anything.
The Frozen Four isn't until next week.
For the last decade has at-worst been a near sellout, and typically is a sellout.
I wonder what he'll find if he researches prices for the college golf championshiprjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoIt’s just literally a moronic take. You can’t compare hockey to basketball or football. You can literally go to buy baseball tickets for the entire College World Series for 56 cents per game. So if $32 is cheap for hockey, what does that make baseball? So clearly you don’t know what Final Four tickets go for in most sports, unless of course you are trying to compete the Frozen Four to the Final Four.ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoCan get tix for both games in the semifinals today for only 32.50 each. Very cheap for a Final 4.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Just because tickets on Stubhub have not sold yet isn't quite indicative of anything.
The Frozen Four isn't until next week.
For the last decade has at-worst been a near sellout, and typically is a sellout.
The sad thing is since I’m on the Arkansas marketing list, I know the answer to this question. Free, they are free. Very cheap for a Finals. I don’t know why anyone would pay $9 to go to Omaha when you can go to Fayetteville, Arkansas and watch elite collegiate men’s golf for free.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoI wonder what he'll find if he researches prices for the college golf championshiprjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoIt’s just literally a moronic take. You can’t compare hockey to basketball or football. You can literally go to buy baseball tickets for the entire College World Series for 56 cents per game. So if $32 is cheap for hockey, what does that make baseball? So clearly you don’t know what Final Four tickets go for in most sports, unless of course you are trying to compete the Frozen Four to the Final Four.
True RF1, only 68% of capacity.