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http://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/ ... p?tmi=7561

NYG-those are some strong attendance #s for PC hockey. Surprised the donors and Rhody admin. didn't direct the $$ there?
Go start a fund raiser,using the attendance figures for support. Can use the empty seats for discounts to CCD teachers.
I will give,no one else will.

We are a New England School with great local hockey players and great hockey schools and I would love a D1 program at URI, but in this country when comparing the two sports, it's football .......................................................................................................................... then hockey.

Yes, but in the northeast it's a lot different when you're comparing FCS football and division 1 hockey

URI football averaged approximately 4,447 fans per game last season with 3 wins. PC hockey averaged approximately 3,616 fans per game. A bottom FCS football team averaged more fans than a top D1 hockey team. That's why you invest in football.

Rhodymob05 wrote:URI football averaged approximately 4,447 fans per game last season with 3 wins. PC hockey averaged approximately 3,616 fans per game. A bottom FCS football team averaged more fans than a top D1 hockey team. That's why you invest in football.

You aren't seriously trying to compare PC hockey revenue to Rhody football revenue...are you?

My point is , investing in football and it’s facilities is more beneficial for Uri. There’s a solid fan base even with such poor facilities and poor success rate. Any investment can only help this program go up. Multi use facilities with lighting lead to multiple sports plus more events and more involvement by the university itself which acts as a great marketing tool for the athletic teams.

Rhodymob05 wrote:URI football averaged approximately 4,447 fans per game last season with 3 wins. PC hockey averaged approximately 3,616 fans per game. A bottom FCS football team averaged more fans than a top D1 hockey team. That's why you invest in football.

URI football had attendance of 22,240 last year, PC hockey had 57,000. We would need to average over 10,000 a game to equal that number

Here are official #s.

http://hockeyeastonline.com/men/statist ... attend.php
Hockey East web site shows PC had 16 home games at 2456 per game. Were they playing High school teams?
No wonder why there is no interest amongst the donors or admin..
Headline for hockey homecoming:

"URI Rams Vs. U. of Lowell River hawks"
Feb. XX
"Hot coffee and doughnuts"

I was going off of the numbers Rhodymob05 posted. So they outdrew us 39,296 to 22,240. Our football program would need to average 7859 a game to have the same attendance numbers as PC hockey.

And again, there's plenty of interest. We had the money to fund TWO hockey arenas, but the athletic department used the first donation for Mackal Field House, against the donor's wishes for the money.

Rhody mob has 3616 fans in an arena holding 3030.?
They promote their total attendance over 16 games?

Sounds like something Bryant College would do.
More marketing for hockey taglines:
"no problems for hotel rooms like football"

"no hassle parking"
" tickets available"

Perhaps you want to take another gander at our football attendance numbers when you're throwing out those taglines. I'm pretty sure the 2877 that came out for the Villanova game didn't exactly provide a shot in the arm for the local businesses, assuming that many even showed up.

PC hockey should have stronger support from students. Empty seats for a top 5 Hockey East team is a bad look no question. Perhaps PC does a bad job marketing to local youngsters/high schools/middle schools. I don't know anything about PC sports marketing but I have never seen anything other than the occasional promo for Cox coverage.

URI hockey would do well IMHO in D1 as the growth of the sport in S County in the last 10 years has been huge. We certainly don't need a further investment in facilities for hockey. We have that covered. We are ready to go. The Hockey East buy in has historically been too high. Atlantic Hockey is the place to start or perhaps ECAC, Remember we have 2 equally deserving hockey programs to upgrade the women can't be left out of the equation.

Hockey and football have nothing to do with each other at URI.

Shane D wrote: ↑5 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:The money doesn't really add up to me. They say this project will cost $4.1 million dollars, but they only show where $3.1 million is coming from. I wonder where the other $1 million is coming from. Also, I thought lights and turf was more of an approximately $2 million project, so what is the rest of the money going to? Seating in one of the end zones? Video scoreboard? And if they're doing stuff other than the lights and turf, why not mention it to build even more excitement?

The other thing I don't understand is the timeline. It would probably be too aggressive to get the lights and turf done before the season starts, but it's certainly doable, at least for the turf. I don't understand why it wouldn't be ready for next season though. It is taking us that long to secure the funding or are they hoping to fold this into a bigger overhaul?

The way it has been explained to me, there is $3.1 raised, and there is about $1 million left to be raised. We are confident in the remaining money coming in. If it comes in soon enough, there is flexibility to have the turf and lights in by 2019. Obviously we prefer the earlier date, but it is contingent on securing the remaining funding.

It appears that money has been secured early. They're talking about possibly needing an alternate venue for the spring game and having the home opener against Delaware under the lights

Now that turf and lights are coming....maybe the next enhancement will/should be staff pay increases, since we seem to be losing guys to programs that we should expect to beat.

I agree,we beat Harvard 2X and they take 2 coaches??

Any chance we see a Videotron at Meade in the near future? I wish we could see some cool video packages to get the crowd hyped up. Plus, the scoreboard at Meade is super dated.

Kirby-good idea. Also,new entrance way to Meade.

There is a long laundry list of things that need to be done. At least they are starting on it.

The scoreboard is from the summer of 2005. It appears that New Hampshire spent about $1 million for their video scoreboard. While I'd love to have one, the East stands still remain the most important task

Agreed. The stands are the priority. Anything else is lipstick on a pig with a bunch of bandaids.

With the lights and turf going in this off season ( which is awesome) there was some questions about the spring game and where it would be played.
Would Narragansett high school be an option? They have practice there before in the spring.
Also what about Cranston stadium? Middle of the state, could attract new fans.

Cranston stadium=nice facility w/no locker rooms. Teams/refs look like a bowling or softball league changing.
Typical RI.

the football stadium at pc?

In roughly 1988 0r 1989 Football played a spring game at Cranston Stadium so it is not unprecedented.

Rhody Blue wrote: ↑5 years ago In roughly 1988 0r 1989 Football played a spring game at Cranston Stadium so it is not unprecedented.

it was 87

I have always believe URI should have a D1 hockey program, but never at the expense of football. Choosing between the two sports is a no-brainer given that over 250 schools play football in the two D1 levels and the widespread PR college football gets all over the country. Not so true of hockey which is played by some 50 schools and is regionally focused. Any question about this popularity was dispelled in this past weekend's NCAA hockey regional in Providence with PC as host and participant, 7,400 fans attended Saturday's doubleheader and 5,400 fans attended Sunday's final in which PC came out the winner.

Yea would love a hockey program, but with more New England schools putting money into football such as Uconn, Umass, UNH, URI ect, it's important to invest. URI can easily get 8-9K fans per game with a decent season. I would also say that the homecoming/parents weekend football game is the largest marketing event at the University. Last years team gave this program life, now lets keep it going.

1st Home Game Saturday September 7th vs Delaware!!!

• New Turf

• New Lights

It's not exactly a camera where you can track the progress in real time, but there's been enough Twitter updates where it almost feels that way!



This is something an athletic department like ours needs to focus on doing more of. You can't control what other outlets cover, but there are plenty of ways now to constantly engage your fan base and get the message you want out.

As a long time fan and someone who played on that field it’s kinda sad to see the grass go. The sod on that field was really good. As I say that I’m also very excited to see the field turf be put in along with the lights. It’s about time URI “ thinks BIG”. Now a days you have to have field turf. Kids expect big time schools to have it. Hell even High schools in little Rhode Island have it.
Seeing these updates are very exciting and the school needs to keep putting it out there. The PR will do wonders for the school and fans. It shows URI is committed to Football!

Rhodysk wrote: ↑5 years ago As a long time fan and someone who played on that field it’s kinda sad to see the grass go. The sod on that field was really good. As I say that I’m also very excited to see the field turf be put in along with the lights. It’s about time URI “ thinks BIG”. Now a days you have to have field turf. Kids expect big time schools to have it. Hell even High schools in little Rhode Island have it.
Seeing these updates are very exciting and the school needs to keep putting it out there. The PR will do wonders for the school and fans. It shows URI is committed to Football!

I'll still never forget the flooded field game of 2002.

Sure,Obadiah- key words are NCAA regional and double header.
A more telling stat is the less than 2000 who went to the mayors cup hockey game!
You think hockey is such a great idea-go start a fund raiser. Baseball,Hoops and football don't blink at it.
Bet you can't do it.

Screw it then, lets drop every sport that can't exist off a simple fundraiser! If that's the bar that hockey has to meet then let's put all sports to the test and see whats left!

Hal Kopp wrote: ↑5 years ago Sure,Obadiah- key words are NCAA regional and double header.
A more telling stat is the less than 2000 who went to the mayors cup hockey game!
You think hockey is such a great idea-go start a fund raiser. Baseball,Hoops and football don't blink at it.
Bet you can't do it.

I think you totally misunderstood the point I was making. I was dissing hockey!

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑5 years ago

Rhodysk wrote: ↑5 years ago As a long time fan and someone who played on that field it’s kinda sad to see the grass go. The sod on that field was really good. As I say that I’m also very excited to see the field turf be put in along with the lights. It’s about time URI “ thinks BIG”. Now a days you have to have field turf. Kids expect big time schools to have it. Hell even High schools in little Rhode Island have it.
Seeing these updates are very exciting and the school needs to keep putting it out there. The PR will do wonders for the school and fans. It shows URI is committed to Football!

I'll still never forget the flooded field game of 2002.

Let's hope that they do what's necessary to keep the field from flooding again, along with putting in the field turf.

Obadiah-OK I get it.
A back handed compliment.

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago Screw it then, lets drop every sport that can't exist off a simple fundraiser! If that's the bar that hockey has to meet then let's put all sports to the test and see whats left!

1. Men's basketball
2. There isn't more than one at URI

Theres another thread active that can house the hockey discussion. Not sure it belongs in the football thread. I’ll say this, though: if URI already had hockey I probably wouldn’t be advocating to get rid of it. But the fact is we don’t have hockey and the sports we do have could use MORE funding, not less. So unless hockey could be self-supporting then I’m not interested. Of course I’m biased because I think hockey is a dumb sport for hillbilly Canadians and Russians, and it’s fair to point that out, but honestly taking my personal opinion of hockey out of the equation it isn’t something that I would support strictly on financial grounds.

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago Screw it then, lets drop every sport that can't exist off a simple fundraiser! If that's the bar that hockey has to meet then let's put all sports to the test and see whats left!

1. Men's basketball
2. There isn't more than one at URI

Exactly.

Obadiah wrote: ↑5 years ago

Hal Kopp wrote: ↑5 years ago Sure,Obadiah- key words are NCAA regional and double header.
A more telling stat is the less than 2000 who went to the mayors cup hockey game!
You think hockey is such a great idea-go start a fund raiser. Baseball,Hoops and football don't blink at it.
Bet you can't do it.

I think you totally misunderstood the point I was making. I was dissing hockey!

I’d fundraise the shit out for basketball. Bake sales. Karaoke contests. You name it!

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑5 years ago

Rhodysk wrote: ↑5 years ago As a long time fan and someone who played on that field it’s kinda sad to see the grass go. The sod on that field was really good. As I say that I’m also very excited to see the field turf be put in along with the lights. It’s about time URI “ thinks BIG”. Now a days you have to have field turf. Kids expect big time schools to have it. Hell even High schools in little Rhode Island have it.
Seeing these updates are very exciting and the school needs to keep putting it out there. The PR will do wonders for the school and fans. It shows URI is committed to Football!

I'll still never forget the flooded field game of 2002.

Let's hope that they do what's necessary to keep the field from flooding again, along with putting in the field turf.

With the amount of coin going into this upgrade and their knowledge of this I am sure irrigation was taken care of.

Yeah, besides that 2002 deal the entire field flooded again several years later when there were heavy spring rains for several days.

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑5 years ago I am sure [anything] was taken care of.

Famous last words

There was even a proposal floated [see what I did there?] years ago to raise the level of the entire field.

Of course that never happened...was way too expensive.

by adam914 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:06 pm
Screw it then, lets drop every sport that can't exist off a simple fundraiser! If that's the bar that hockey has to meet then let's put all sports to the test and see whats left!

Adam-fine. I will donate to mens hockey (only). If you are relying on any of the following to pay for mens and womens hockey,they will get killed:
1. Booster funds.
2. student fees
3. the state (taxes)
whats your plan? Big on criticism and unwilling to contribute.

Hal Kopp wrote: ↑5 years ago by adam914 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:06 pm
Screw it then, lets drop every sport that can't exist off a simple fundraiser! If that's the bar that hockey has to meet then let's put all sports to the test and see whats left!

Adam-fine. I will donate to mens hockey (only). If you are relying on any of the following to pay for mens and womens hockey,they will get killed:
1. Booster funds.
2. student fees
3. the state (taxes)
whats your plan? Big on criticism and unwilling to contribute.

I'm not relying on anything. And it's not my job to make a plan. We have administrators that get paid a lot of money to make those plans. I'm just saying if the argument is hockey should only be able to exist off fundraisers then why don't we hold other sports to the same standard? The fundraiser was your idea, not mine.

The funny thing is I'm not even really a hockey fan, I just think a state school in the northeast should be able to field a hockey team because it is a relatively popular niche sport in that region. I also think we could be really good at it. And it's weird to me that people seem to like to brag and are sort of proud that we are too broke to be able to do it.

And to bring it back to football to, I think it's great that the turf and lights are finally happening and its long overdue. But I also find it kind of awkward to be celebrating about our football field finally being brought up to the level of high schools around the country.

I am completely over the hockey conversation at this point. We do not have a hockey team. There has been no discussion from the AD or school about funding a D1 program. We have football. Let's discuss the football program. When hockey becomes real (if it ever becomes real) then we can have this argument.