Agreed. The travel would be rough, but URI- as a top A10 team- would pretty much be guaranteed a solid match-up.
Interesting idea but could lead to some rough looking early season games:
The AAC thinks they are in the Power. At their media day the press conference backdrop had Power6 all over it. I am assuming they are making a push to be added to the Power5. You can see it on screen in the right of this pic.RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago It would be in the best interests of the A-10, AAC, and MWC to develop some sort of scheduling arrangement with member teams playing a certain number of games versus one another. The P5 and Big East are squeezing them out with their partnerships and expanded conference schedules.
No doubt that when the next and final wave if expansion hits, some schools from the AFC or whatever the hell they call it might be promoted to the cartel. But the whole league? Ha! The cartel exists to make sure no other leagues get into the cartel.Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years agoThe AAC thinks they are in the Power. At their media day the press conference backdrop had Power6 all over it. I am assuming they are making a push to be added to the Power5. You can see it on screen in the right of this pic.RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago It would be in the best interests of the A-10, AAC, and MWC to develop some sort of scheduling arrangement with member teams playing a certain number of games versus one another. The P5 and Big East are squeezing them out with their partnerships and expanded conference schedules.
No doubt that when the next and final wave if expansion hits, some schools from the AFC or whatever the hell they call it might be promoted to the cartel. But the whole league? Ha! The cartel exists to make sure no other leagues get into the cartel.Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years agoThe AAC thinks they are in the Power. At their media day the press conference backdrop had Power6 all over it. I am assuming they are making a push to be added to the Power5. You can see it on screen in the right of this pic.RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago It would be in the best interests of the A-10, AAC, and MWC to develop some sort of scheduling arrangement with member teams playing a certain number of games versus one another. The P5 and Big East are squeezing them out with their partnerships and expanded conference schedules.
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years agoThe AAC thinks they are in the Power. At their media day the press conference backdrop had Power6 all over it. I am assuming they are making a push to be added to the Power5. You can see it on screen in the right of this pic.RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago It would be in the best interests of the A-10, AAC, and MWC to develop some sort of scheduling arrangement with member teams playing a certain number of games versus one another. The P5 and Big East are squeezing them out with their partnerships and expanded conference schedules.
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Given the success of Donny Dollhands, they must be subscribing to the practice of "if you say it often enough, it becomes truth," regardless of overwhelming facts. The AAC is no more a Power conference than the A-10, MWC, etc. There ARE teams that can elevate, but this assumes there is a P5 conference interested in taking them. I believe the better teams from conferences 6 through 8 or 9 would do well to band together....and soon. That is where your P6 will come from.
Storrs, Conn., where the men are men and the women are champions.
Solid series versus a typically good non P5 school.
Package some of those game and the attendance numbers will be outstanding. I don’t want to look ahead, but Dowtin as a senior could lead a phenomenal team.bigappleram wrote: ↑5 years ago This is a great development. So would we really have Alabama, Western Kentucky and PC all at the Ryan next year? That’s building towards a great home slate with a Rhody team that should be really good.
They may not end up in a tournament or if they do it would probably be a 2 game tourney, because they have 3 strong home games with Western Kentucky, PC and Alabama and potentially 4 road games with Brown, Florida Gulf Coast, West Virginia and Middle Tennessee State. Where they stand with the schedule is probably filling it out with at least 2/3 home games with a mid major and a couple easier games in the mold of Bryant/Maine. It doesn’t leave many games left. I hope they do get in a tourney, because they have potential to showcase a very good team next year.
An exempt tournament only counts as one game. Participating in a four game format basically gets you three additional games on the schedule (31 games ves 28). If the tournament is set up like many, you often can get two more home games.RamStock wrote: ↑5 years ago They may not end up in a tournament or if they do it would probably be a 2 game tourney, because they have 3 strong home games with Western Kentucky, PC and Alabama and potentially 4 road games with Brown, Florida Gulf Coast, West Virginia and Middle Tennessee State. Where they stand with the schedule is probably filling it out with at least 2/3 home games with a mid major and a couple easier games in the mold of Bryant/Maine. It doesn’t leave many games left. I hope they do get in a tourney, because they have potential to showcase a very good team next year.
I agree that they can go the route of two more home games and a tourney. You can have play 29 total regular season games. If you play in a tournament you are allowed 27 games and up to 4 tournament games for a total of no more than 31. If the 7 non conference games stand currently we could add two more home games and than play in a tournament. I’m not saying we can’t or won’t play in a tourney, because I hope we do, but they will have to decide how many non conference home games they want at their current schedule.RF1 wrote: ↑5 years agoAn exempt tournament only counts as one game. Participating in a four game format basically gets you three additional games on the schedule (31 games ves 28). If the tournament is set up like many, you often can get two more home games.RamStock wrote: ↑5 years ago They may not end up in a tournament or if they do it would probably be a 2 game tourney, because they have 3 strong home games with Western Kentucky, PC and Alabama and potentially 4 road games with Brown, Florida Gulf Coast, West Virginia and Middle Tennessee State. Where they stand with the schedule is probably filling it out with at least 2/3 home games with a mid major and a couple easier games in the mold of Bryant/Maine. It doesn’t leave many games left. I hope they do get in a tourney, because they have potential to showcase a very good team next year.
I think the partnership will only help a select few teams in each conference, teams that are probably already headed to the tournament. If you are the 4th or 5th team in the A10, playing the 4th or 5th team in the MWC likely is not going to move the resume at all. Imagine St. Joseph's last year is battling for an NCAA birth, but their pairing is someone like New Mexico and their 120 RPI, or worse. Unfortunately, every conference partner pairing is going to offer the same disadvantage, a few very good teams at the top but not a lot of depth. The only way it would really benefit teams would be to go into some sort of aggressive pod scheduling, where you say something to the effect of our top 6 will play 3 of their top 6. That's going to guarantee team 4 or 5 the chance at a resume building game or two. The goal is to try to get more teams better resumes, not to just fatten up the top.
The reality is that even though this would only help the top 4-5 teams, it is still worth doing because those are the teams a league like ours needs to overcompensate for. If the league can enter conference play with 4-5 teams within the Top 50-75 it will be a boon. Adding 1 more quality OOC opponent to each of the Top 4-5 teams schedule will only help that. Then there will be some in the 75-150 range who largely aren't impacted positively or negatively by a like for like matchup with a similar ranked team in MVC, etc, and who cares about the bottom tier. There is no way the A10 will ever be a league that has parity top to bottom, it is always going to be top heavy and that's ok. The commissioner has to do everything in her power to keep the top tier strong and lean heavily upon them to prop up the rest of the league.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoI think the partnership will only help a select few teams in each conference, teams that are probably already headed to the tournament. If you are the 4th or 5th team in the A10, playing the 4th or 5th team in the MWC likely is not going to move the resume at all. Imagine St. Joseph's last year is battling for an NCAA birth, but their pairing is someone like New Mexico and their 120 RPI, or worse. Unfortunately, every conference partner pairing is going to offer the same disadvantage, a few very good teams at the top but not a lot of depth. The only way it would really benefit teams would be to go into some sort of aggressive pod scheduling, where you say something to the effect of our top 6 will play 3 of their top 6. That's going to guarantee team 4 or 5 the chance at a resume building game or two. The goal is to try to get more teams better resumes, not to just fatten up the top.
I would agree with that I just think the problem with the A10, MWC, etc. is that it might only be helpful to the top 2-3 teams and not 4-5 and the 2-3 it helps would likely already be headed to the tournament anyway. If you look at the Top 3 A10 RPI's last season, 19, 24, 47. Very helpful to the MWC counterparts. 4-6 had RPI's of 135, 146, and 147, not helpful at all. Same exercise for the MWC, had top 3 RPI's of 17, 50, and 62. Pretty helpful. 4-6 had RPI's of 98, 103, and 118. Not resume boosting. What scheduling agreements like this need to do is help 4-6, not 1-3. 4-6 need to have more resume building opportunities to be able to play their way to the bubble. I don't think this agreement ultimately accomplishes that. Like I said before though, if you said the top 6 in each conference would play 3 games against each other, you'll get one or two shots at marquee, resume-building opponents. Team 5 who might have matched up against a team with an RPI of 146 might get team 24, 47, and 146. That's extremely helpful. I think that is what is being missed. But can't fault them for trying.bigappleram wrote: ↑5 years agoThe reality is that even though this would only help the top 4-5 teams, it is still worth doing because those are the teams a league like ours needs to overcompensate for. If the league can enter conference play with 4-5 teams within the Top 50-75 it will be a boon. Adding 1 more quality OOC opponent to each of the Top 4-5 teams schedule will only help that. Then there will be some in the 75-150 range who largely aren't impacted positively or negatively by a like for like matchup with a similar ranked team in MVC, etc, and who cares about the bottom tier. There is no way the A10 will ever be a league that has parity top to bottom, it is always going to be top heavy and that's ok. The commissioner has to do everything in her power to keep the top tier strong and lean heavily upon them to prop up the rest of the league.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoI think the partnership will only help a select few teams in each conference, teams that are probably already headed to the tournament. If you are the 4th or 5th team in the A10, playing the 4th or 5th team in the MWC likely is not going to move the resume at all. Imagine St. Joseph's last year is battling for an NCAA birth, but their pairing is someone like New Mexico and their 120 RPI, or worse. Unfortunately, every conference partner pairing is going to offer the same disadvantage, a few very good teams at the top but not a lot of depth. The only way it would really benefit teams would be to go into some sort of aggressive pod scheduling, where you say something to the effect of our top 6 will play 3 of their top 6. That's going to guarantee team 4 or 5 the chance at a resume building game or two. The goal is to try to get more teams better resumes, not to just fatten up the top.
For me I think this Atlantic 10 and Mountain West partnership is great. I see all positives, no negatives. Congrats on our A10 Conference Leader for helping with this. No way I would turn my nose up to this.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoI would agree with that I just think the problem with the A10, MWC, etc. is that it might only be helpful to the top 2-3 teams and not 4-5 and the 2-3 it helps would likely already be headed to the tournament anyway. If you look at the Top 3 A10 RPI's last season, 19, 24, 47. Very helpful to the MWC counterparts. 4-6 had RPI's of 135, 146, and 147, not helpful at all. Same exercise for the MWC, had top 3 RPI's of 17, 50, and 62. Pretty helpful. 4-6 had RPI's of 98, 103, and 118. Not resume boosting. What scheduling agreements like this need to do is help 4-6, not 1-3. 4-6 need to have more resume building opportunities to be able to play their way to the bubble. I don't think this agreement ultimately accomplishes that. Like I said before though, if you said the top 6 in each conference would play 3 games against each other, you'll get one or two shots at marquee, resume-building opponents. Team 5 who might have matched up against a team with an RPI of 146 might get team 24, 47, and 146. That's extremely helpful. I think that is what is being missed. But can't fault them for trying.bigappleram wrote: ↑5 years agoThe reality is that even though this would only help the top 4-5 teams, it is still worth doing because those are the teams a league like ours needs to overcompensate for. If the league can enter conference play with 4-5 teams within the Top 50-75 it will be a boon. Adding 1 more quality OOC opponent to each of the Top 4-5 teams schedule will only help that. Then there will be some in the 75-150 range who largely aren't impacted positively or negatively by a like for like matchup with a similar ranked team in MVC, etc, and who cares about the bottom tier. There is no way the A10 will ever be a league that has parity top to bottom, it is always going to be top heavy and that's ok. The commissioner has to do everything in her power to keep the top tier strong and lean heavily upon them to prop up the rest of the league.rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago
I think the partnership will only help a select few teams in each conference, teams that are probably already headed to the tournament. If you are the 4th or 5th team in the A10, playing the 4th or 5th team in the MWC likely is not going to move the resume at all. Imagine St. Joseph's last year is battling for an NCAA birth, but their pairing is someone like New Mexico and their 120 RPI, or worse. Unfortunately, every conference partner pairing is going to offer the same disadvantage, a few very good teams at the top but not a lot of depth. The only way it would really benefit teams would be to go into some sort of aggressive pod scheduling, where you say something to the effect of our top 6 will play 3 of their top 6. That's going to guarantee team 4 or 5 the chance at a resume building game or two. The goal is to try to get more teams better resumes, not to just fatten up the top.
I’d be happy with any of the following...theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago It’s all good until we play Air Force, San Jose St or Fresno. On the road.
I tend to agree. All teams we wouldn’t normally play in places we may not normally go. It’s good for the brand.
reef would approve