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rodfromcranston wrote:TCU from Pitt?
TCU is where Jim Christian went from a hot
coach to 56-73, after he left Kent State.
Pitt has not done well in the ACC in basketball.
Football money has ruined many good
basketball situations for schools.

Pitt has done ok in the ACC but not the power it was in the olds Big East. Think a lot of Pitt fans don't realize the ACC is just brutally tough and Dixon is taking a lot of heat i know that and may be sick of it.
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That's why schools like PC benefit big time from being in a non FBS conference.

They can focus most of their athletic budget on basketball, without the big financial drain with football.

And why a school like Villanova can still afford much cheaper FCS football.

Plus that TV deal with Fox. A win-win for the BE.
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PC is going to take a step backwards with Dunn leaving and more than likely Bentil following him out the door. Word on the street is that Ed has come to realize he has brought PC as far as he can. He knows he will never be able to consistently recruit top players given the school's student demographics and race problems. Even when he does gets some high level recruits to attend, its no guarantee they stay as he has had some bail because they don't feel comfortable on the PC campus. He knows this will never change and he is growing tired of coming soooo close with recruits but usually always losing out at the end.
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rambone 78 wrote:That's why schools like PC benefit big time from being in a non FBS conference.

They can focus most of their athletic budget on basketball, without the big financial drain with football.

And why a school like Villanova can still afford much cheaper FCS football.

Plus that TV deal with Fox. A win-win for the BE.

I agree the new setup has been very beneficial for PC.
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RF1 wrote:PC is going to take a step backwards with Dunn leaving and more than likely Bentil following him out the door. Word on the street is that Ed had come to realize he has brought PC as far as he can. He knows he will never be able to consistently recruit top players given the school's student demographics and race problems. He knows this will never change and he is growing tired of coming soooo close with recruits but usually always losing out at the end.
Bentil will be back guaranteed and so will Ed much to your dislike. Also he may not be missing out as much on those top recruits as he now has upgraded facility's he has been asking for believe me he is going nowhere.
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I've heard Bentil is likely to come back but not a sure thing, and Cooley isn't going anywhere.

He could be a bottom half first rounder. If so, he could go.
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rambone 78 wrote:That's why schools like PC benefit big time from being in a non FBS conference.

They can focus most of their athletic budget on basketball, without the big financial drain with football.

And why a school like Villanova can still afford much cheaper FCS football.

Plus that TV deal with Fox. A win-win for the BE.
Financial drain? Pitt is bringing in money hand over fist. Don't let the fraudulent P&L reports fool you. They count each scholarship as full expense rather than the marginal cost of having that athlete on campus. There is a reason schools are dying to get into the big conferences. School presidents, ADs, and boards of trustees generally aren't dumb. Pitt is having a hard time because the ACC is having an all time run. Sure, it's tougher (but not by that much) than some of the Big East runs in the 80s and 90s. But, they would join again in a second. UConn is basically on a street corner with a sandwich board begging the Big 12 for a spot. And their football team stinks.
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Gonebarongone wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:That's why schools like PC benefit big time from being in a non FBS conference.

They can focus most of their athletic budget on basketball, without the big financial drain with football.

And why a school like Villanova can still afford much cheaper FCS football.

Plus that TV deal with Fox. A win-win for the BE.
Financial drain? Pitt is bringing in money hand over fist. Don't let the fraudulent P&L reports fool you. They count each scholarship as full expense rather than the marginal cost of having that athlete on campus. There is a reason schools are dying to get into the big conferences. School presidents, ADs, and boards of trustees generally aren't dumb. Pitt is having a hard time because the ACC is having an all time run. Sure, it's tougher (but not by that much) than some of the Big East runs in the 80s and 90s. But, they would join again in a second. UConn is basically on a street corner with a sandwich board begging the Big 12 for a spot. And their football team stinks.
Think he was talking about the non p5 schools.
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I find this to be a weird move, but can totally see it from his perspective.
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it's a mutual agreement to leave by both sides, similar to when Brian Gregory left Dayton, both benefited from the change. It also helps that Dixon went and played for TCU and the ACC->Big 12 isn't a step down at all
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Dixon will struggle to field a winner in the B12. At least he got Pitt to the Dance.

Hey he's going to his alma mater though. Whatever works for him.
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twisted3829 wrote:it's a mutual agreement to leave by both sides, similar to when Brian Gregory left Dayton, both benefited from the change. It also helps that Dixon went and played for TCU and the ACC->Big 12 isn't a step down at all
Right, I said this yesterday. It was definitely as much about him being gently nudged out at Pitt as him "leaving" for TCU. Just feel he could have had a better job if he didn't have a thing for TCU because of his history there. That was really my point - if it were me I wouldn't have gone to TCU, even know his history there.
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I don't think TCU is that bad of a job. They're in the Big 12, they recently remodeled their arena, they're plugged into Dallas, and as we've seen with their football program, with the right coach they can be highly successful.
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The ACC is unbelievable so long as the hall of famers stay in form. Plus Mike Brey has become a force.

You have the 4 hall of famers in Roy, K, Boeheim, Pitino, and then there is the next tier of Bennet, Brey, Larranaga, Buzz, Mark Gottfried.

Thats 9 coaches either capable or likely to make at least a sweet sixteen run every year.

Dixon jumps ship after a close loss to a down Wisconsin? yikes.

I must say that I always thought the Pitts of the world were the legit threat to a Dan Hurley tenure. Because the blue bloods mostly hire from within their family.
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Hurley to Pitt.....Cooley to Rhode Island.....you heard it here first.....
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I don't want Cooley out at providence....sooner or later Hurley will win a game against him.....I just wish for providence college and their coach all the things that friar fans like woodennickel wish for us.....
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Ramulous wrote:I don't want Cooley out at providence....sooner or later Hurley will win a game against him.....I just wish for providence college and their coach all the things that friar fans like woodennickel wish for us.....
Ramulous I really don't care what the rams do in fact I wish they would at least be under the 100 rpi mark so we can get a decent win out of it. I'm not like a lot of PC fans in that I really don't care if the rams win or lose as long as we beat you.
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Never doubt for a minute the hypocrites that those associated with PC generally are. They are
just like the parent organization.
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woodennickel1 wrote:
Ramulous wrote:I don't want Cooley out at providence....sooner or later Hurley will win a game against him.....I just wish for providence college and their coach all the things that friar fans like woodennickel wish for us.....
Ramulous I really don't care what the rams do in fact I wish they would at least be under the 100 rpi mark so we can get a decent win out of it. I'm not like a lot of PC fans in that I really don't care if the rams win or lose as long as we beat you.
You don't care about what the Rams do, yet spend enough time on a URI message board to have 150 posts...
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This guy got trolled, but also not sure why PC fans even bother posting here.

Agree with Bone that the Pitt job is the type of one that may attract DH, post a Tourney berth/run. Maryland, Georgetown, Uconn, St Johns, Syracuse....to me those are the jobs to be worried about. If he ever earned the right to be considered. I cant see him leaving the east coast and specifically Virginia and north.
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That was quick! Too bad SFA isn't still in the tourney though and this would have had to happen next week- damn Irish.

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When did OSU fire Ford?
Wow! They've underachieved for most of
Ford's tenure there.
The program is awash with money and not
even close to instate rival Oklahoma.
Very decisive action by their administration
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You can have plenty of money, and in Ford's case, be a good recruiter, but it doesn't guarantee anything when it comes to wins and losses.

Having a lot of talent isn't the answer if that talent doesn't mesh together well.

Ford was never regarded as a good bench coach at UMass, and he proved it at Okie State.

Just like with the current coach [Kellogg] at UMass. Yeah, he's supposed to have a great recruiting class coming in.

Does that mean they will win big? No.

Let's hope that Dan doesn't get that same kind of reputation here.
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Great hire for Okie State
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Agreed, TP.

At my place of employment they have a saying:

"It's time to shine"

It's Dan's and URI's time to shine, starting next season.

The bar has been raised. Nothing less will do.
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I'm sure that Jared Terrell is happy with his decision to spurn Oklahoma State and Travis Ford to come to URI and play for Dan Hurley.
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Pikiell is set to make 1.4 million in his first year at Rutgers, with guaranteed increases after that. He's also being given an $800,000 salary pool for assistants.


Quote from the Rutgers AD:

"I have tremendous respect for Coach Hurley," Hobbs said, "respect for what he's done. We did talk early in the process. He's a tremendous coach. Obviously, baskeball royalty here in New Jersey. And he made a difficult decision early in the process to remove himself and I respect that. He did it because of his players [at Rhode Island] and you have to respect that, so you wish him all the best and I'll be cheering him on in the A-10 as a Jersey guy in the year's ahead."
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This would be a pretty big splash (and good for the A-10):

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That's interesting about Drew, but I would think he might be aiming higher than the A10......
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Bryce Drew would be an outstanding hire for Saint Louis. A. Miller, D. Hurley, possibly B. Drew. The conference would get one step closer to employing all younger coaching brothers.
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Reading the Dayton board about Archie's possible interest in the Pitt job.

Doesn't look like it.

Some fool tweeted than Dan is "on the list" for the Pitt job.

Yeah, and so am I, but no one has contacted me yet........

Seriously, an ACC job for Dan might be in his future, but not that one, and not now.....
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rambone 78 wrote:That's interesting about Drew, but I would think he might be aiming higher than the A10......
I think that is the right size step. He can aim wherever he wants but St Louis is a good program, the A10 is a good conference and now is a good time for him to take the next step. I like it better when A10 fans get upset when they are treated like a stepping stone than when they act like they are some junk on the ground that people should step over, but that's just me maybe.
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more good pub for us and our coach
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Not part of the coaching carousel, but the grad transfer player carousel is beginning....on that note

Jon Severe transferring from Fordham, eligible immediately with 1 year left.
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How is that, BAR?
He's in the same class as Hass and EC.
He'd have to sit out a year.
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Imagine what Cooley could do recruiting at Pitt?

Sky is the limit he has to be the top choice.
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Dawkins reportedly hired by UCF, about 10 days after he was fired at Stanford. Danny White does like those Duke connections.

The thinking on Severe is that he can graduate early and be a grad transfer.
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rodfromcranston wrote:How is that, BAR?
He's in the same class as Hass and EC.
He'd have to sit out a year.
He must be earning his degree before the next school year starts. I believe that if you graduate from a school, you are immediately eligible, even if you've only been in school for 3 years.
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That is what I read too, he will complete his course work in 3 years so he will be immediately eligible to play his GT year elsewhere
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bigappleram wrote:That is what I read too, he will complete his course work in 3 years so he will be immediately eligible to play his GT year elsewhere
If it is true he is graduating from Forham in 3 years, that is pretty impressive.
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Wonder who would want him. That's 2 coaches he couldn't play for.

Maybe he just wants to be on a winner?
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Reminds me a little of Gerard Coleman. Talented but struggled to find his role within the team concept. Dude just wants to launch shots, the outcome of the game is secondary.
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It is crazy that he was able to play Div 1 basketball and graduate from a school like Fordham in 3 years. Add to that he took at least 1 multi-week leave of absence, maybe 2.
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FWIW-





Severe's been named to the all-academic conference team a couple times, so he would seem to be a good student.
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ace wrote:FWIW-





Severe's been named to the all-academic conference team a couple times, so he would seem to be a good student.
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St Louis Coaching Candidates Thread started December 23 is now up to 112 pages.........

http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.ph ... 6&page=112
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Good summary of the current candidates for SLU

http://fox2now.com/2016/03/23/slu-baske ... es-emerge/