Dan Hurley Signs Restructured Contract @ URI through 2021

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Yeah Bobby tellin him they like where they are!
If Dan leaves that would be like the worst thing ever.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 9 years ago

I don't ever recall the Coaching Carousel being this bizarre. So many coaches out there available and so many "sources" trying to tweet their info before someone else. Most of which is unsubstantiated rumor. This is crazy.

What people Goodman, Rothstein, Zagoria, etc. don't understand (or care about) is how many lives they touch and affect

These rumors also come at a time that really impacts recruiting. That can hurt a program for years. If Dan doesn't have serious interest in leaving only he can squelch the rumor mill before it hurts his recruiting.

In the worst case scenario you never want to be the last school looking for a coach. I hope Thorr has dusted off a new search list, just in case. I hate this shit.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Andy O'Toole (Robert Morris) rumored to Fordham....if true thats a good hire for them, if the unthinkable happens here he would be someone on my target list.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

reckless jake wrote:I don't ever recall the Coaching Carousel being this bizarre.

Agree. If you believe everything you read, Bobby is a candidate at like 20 schools right now.

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CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 9 years ago

And here we go, another off season sweating out whether our coach is leaving. Hopefully Dan is a different breed and stays around here for a while. A lot of positives happening within the program and hopefully that out weighs the money.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Local Jim Donaldson getting in on Hurley Watch 2015

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

For those who don't know, Marc is the Director of Expressions Elite.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 9 years ago

Rod, I hope you're right about expecting Dan to be here for the next 20 years.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

Until we pony up as Marc just stated, we will have to deal with this crap. If we were paying our coach $2Mill like the NBE does, then this shit goes away. We should be increasing coaches salary incrementally every year so we work our way up to a level that makes it a lateral move money-wise to most D-1 schools.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

We have ponied up pretty well. We should get him to 1MM, but monetarily 1MM in RI = 2MM in NY/NJ. The history of the program, MSG, New York City -- that is what we are up against here. That said, I would be surprised if he left.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Time will tell. Now we have to read this pap until St. John's hires
someone.
On the flip side, Dan has two winning seasons in five years as a head
coach, with one NIT.
If I'm a St, John's guy, is that enough of a resume?

CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 9 years ago

Rod - thanks for pointing out who Marc is, interesting comments. Clearly he wants what is best for Terrell. I wonder what Hurley is telling the players about this? Obviously they are all texting him right about now.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

I hate this crap.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

During the Rutgers thing, he met with them, told them not to believe anything
they heard, and that he wasn't going anywhere.
What bothers me is, this is the type of thing, during this critical
recruiting period, that other coaches can use against Dan and staff.
"Hey, Hurley's not going to be at URI, so sign with us", crapola.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

What kind of extension are we talking about? He's already signed through 2020, isn't he? And I realize that means nothing. But rather than an extension, wouldn't tearing up his old contract and giving him a new one make more sense?

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:During the Rutgers thing, he met with them, told them not to believe anything
they heard, and that he wasn't going anywhere.
What bothers me is, this is the type of thing, during this critical
recruiting period, that other coaches can use against Dan and staff.
"Hey, Hurley's not going to be at URI, so sign with us", crapola.

Yea... I thought we would be OK for at least a couple years but a lot of flirting, regardless of how serious it is, is bad for the program.

TBH though I honestly think URI is a better job than St Johns. Other than the Big East and the name, who wants to coach at Saint Johns? They dont even have a campus.

CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 9 years ago

Mores quotes that Dan is interested in the St John's job.

http://nyp.st/1xG1wf3

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Shitty school, shitty campus.
I think Marc Bayha is reminding Dan of the relationship that's
between URI and Expressions Elite, and the commitment Dan has made to
guys like Terrell, and the kids he was talking to at Vermont Academy last week.
There's also more to it than most know.
This would be a big negative to EE, if this does go down.
An LA story? And the same "interesting' thing.
So, what's the implication at the end of the story? That he'll take
Hassan Martin with him?

Smokinjimit · Unread post by **Smokinjimit** » 9 years ago

I am hearing Chris Mullins can have the job if he wants it.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

I would not leave URI for St John's no way....UT Austin, that is a whole different beast. It is football first sure but we talking the big time.

URI needs to pony up appropriate dough now.....or this fun run could be over before it really starts.

Hope Thorr already has his back up plan in place to keep this squad together (Preston Murphy?)

Hang on for a wild ride again folks....man I wish we could just find our Frank Keaney teach chemistry and coach hoops...

Tired of this crap every time we start to get a sniff...sucks!

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This is what I want!

Keaney compiled a 401-124 all-time record in 28 years as head coach of the Rams and is widely credited as the inventor of the "fast break" in basketball, as his Rhode Island teams were known to play fast offensively and full-court defensively. His 1939 team became the first in college history to score more than 50 points per game and in 1943, his Rams' squad led the country in scoring at 80.7 points per game, which led to the team being known as the "Firehouse Gang. In 1946, Keaney led Rhode Island to the championship game of the National Invitation Tournament, losing to powerhouse Kentucky. After retiring from coaching, Keaney was offered the first-ever head coaching position with the Boston Celtics, but did not take the position due to health reasons.

In addition to his many wins on the hardwood, Keaney was a highly successful football and baseball coach and in addition to his duties as a chemistry professor at URI. He served as athletics director at URI from and later had the school's new gymnasium named in his honor - Keaney Gym - in 1953. Keaney was inducted into the second-ever class of the Naismith Hall of Fame in Springfield, Mass. in 1960. He was also a member of the inaugural class of the University of Rhode Island Athletics Hall of Fame in 1959 and is also a member of the Helms and New England Basketball Halls of Fame.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

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ATPTourFan wrote:Nobody should be worried about Dan. I sure hope Rhody fans know better than to get worked up about this.
The fact that it has been reported by Jeff Goodman, Zag, Thamel, Borezello, Parrish and more is cause for some concern.

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CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 9 years ago

Hate how coaches can hide behind sources to say if there are interested or not. Can URI not allow St John's to talk with Hurley? Not saying that would be the thing to do but curious what tools they had at their disposal.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

He'll meet the guys and tell them what's what, just as in past experiences. Second, he'll contact the recruits, person-to-person or through a third party and do the same.

Quit pissing your pants.
Been through this.
Will do it now.
Will do it in the future.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

The only thing that concerns me is the difference in the money. How important is that to Dan?

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Forget the money, forget the shitty campus, depleted roster, new big east not being the old big east, etc -- none of that matters

there are two compelling reasons for DH - going home and NYC. you cant argue against the value of them.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 9 years ago

Judging from the number of sources reporting that Dan is interested in the St. John's position and the job circumstances - much higher salary, higher conference, going back to his home base, and the big lights of New York City - I feel this does not look good for URI and have to believe that Dan will leave. Hate the situation, but I hope Thor has some plan to soften the blow of Hurley's departure..

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

It's all about leverage. URI is now trying to negotiate and
extension, without even knowing the extent of St. John's
actual interest in Hurley.
So, the coach takes advantage of it an voila! A huge raise and
perks.
Happens all the time.
I doubt Dan's immediate family would be thrilled with this, if it were to happen.
They've bult a nice life here, and his kids are in Hendricken. I know Andrea loves it here.
Big difference from Eastern NJ.
What's this bullshit about going home? Like Dan is some little boy, who needs to be near mommy and daddy?
Did John Wooden yearn to go back to Indiana? Did Vince Lombardi want to go back to NY?
Did Red Aerbach want to return to DC? Did Rick Pitino want to go to St. john's because it's home?
Get real!
Bright lights? Have you actually ever talked to Dan? Yeah, like he'd give a shit about bright lights.
Backup plan? For me, I grab Preston, back him up with an older former
head coach.
Nobody will ever outwork PMurph. He can recruit and Xs and Os can
come through others.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 9 years ago

Just seeing this... WTF !.. Ugh

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:What kind of extension are we talking about? He's already signed through 2020, isn't he? And I realize that means nothing. But rather than an extension, wouldn't tearing up his old contract and giving him a new one make more sense?

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When you hear "extension", it's synonymous with "contract restructuring" in all aspects -- term, compensation, other guarantees, buyout provision to protect school, etc.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

Rod...the voice of reason.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 9 years ago

Love Rod's post, gives me hope that Dan might stay.. I agree on the leverage part, no coach ever takes his name out of considering for another job right away, no benefit to do that.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Rod, you are acting like a PC fan with that hubris. You may be right and I hope you are, but if you dont recognize some compelling aspects of the St Johns gig then you are crazy. Dan is a Jersey guy, he likes Jersey. Its not a mystery. Nothing wrong with it I hope in time he feels the same towards RI, but Jersey had a 40 year head start. He didnt leave Jersey for College (Bobby did), his whole professional life prior to URI was spent working Jersey or an Island off the coast of Jersey (Wagner - Staten Island). There is a very strong connection there, and if you win at St John's you are a celebrity in NYC - if you dont see that cache so be it.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

unfortunately this will be the annual spring ritual if we are successful. This is where that Fox TV money comes in handy...

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I'm looking at it knowing some of the personalities involved.
Bright lights? Hurley hates when his name is mentioned. FACT.
I can't thinkl of anyone less concerned with celebrity.
Same people who think this is happening had Thorr gone to Xavier and
saying I was in denial.
We will see.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 9 years ago

Dick Weiss on Wfan just mentioned bobby Hurley and no mention of Dan Hurley

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

I too know some of the personalities involved, and I also understand the allure of New York City. I guess you think Dan doesn't have any ego, I think you are wrong. Is he cut from a different cloth, absolutely, but winning in the biggest market in the country is a challenge and Dan likes challenges.
I had zero opinion on Thorr situation, but I do know someone close to the program that has voiced concern.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:It's all about leverage. URI is now trying to negotiate and
extension, without even knowing the extent of St. John's
actual interest in Hurley.

URI anticipated another run at Hurley in this offseason and has been proactive to strengthen their commitment to Dan. They aren't scrambling or anything in response to today's news. Of course, with negotiations, Dan will likely get more with the threat of a school like Johnnies.

Fine with me. Give Dan what he needs to stay.

CraigL79 · Unread post by **CraigL79** » 9 years ago

From what I have read there appears to be a strong financial faction (Vitamin Water?) that is looking at a Chris Mullen or a Mark Jackson type for the St. John's job. I guess they are split in what type of coach they want with others wanting a young up and comer.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

All Dan has to do is what Shaka Smart does...as soon as a rumor is out there, he shoots it down.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

They should hire Mark Jackson, absolutely. The Hurleys stink.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

RIFan wrote:All Dan has to do is what Shaka Smart does...as soon as a rumor is out there, he shoots it down.

Right, cuz Shaka and Dan are at the same level in their careers and compensation right now.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

If I was AD, I would structure the contract so any NCAAT money earned for bids would be generously apportioned to Dan. Maybe 75%. Conditionally and unguaranteed. We haven't had any money come in in the last 15 years, so it's not like a loss to the school. Now that is an incentive to make the tourney and maybe keep a coach. And make it cumulative. He would get it for six years for making one tourney. If he goes to more, it would be an addition.

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bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

They should hire Mark Jackson, absolutely. The Hurleys stink.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

someone just mentioned a worse case scenario, we lose our coach and a couple of our star players follow him out the door. gulp! going to be angst filled week or two.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 9 years ago

New contracts and contract extensions are not worth the paper they are printed on as a deterrent when a more enticing offer comes along. Remember Steve Alford at New Mexico? Also, it's baloney when they say, "I love it here". Also, bright lights doesn't refer to celebrity, but "thinking big" like in higher salaries for staff, better training table and recruiting budget, fancy transportation including charter flights, first class practice facilities, etc. NYC is Big. And we know that in Rhode Island given the mediocrity of the General Assembly et al, we think small.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Well, if this St, John's job is the Holy Grail, with such overwhelming
amenities, then why haven't they done shit since Lou Carneseca retired?

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

Let's face it, the programs like ours who become sustainable top programs, get that one coach who stays longer than he had to, and establish's a "program", where the name of the school is synonymous with winning...not just the coach.

We are in a very delicate situation right now, and having to find another hot young coach is not what we want to be doing this spring.