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Re: The Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel 2023-24

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:44 pm
by DuneClub
I like some of the film I've seen on this portal guy Dion Brown (UMBC). He's also from nearby W. Ma. Line him up for a visit.

"What also has been fun is watching Brown emerge as one of the top players in the America East. He leads the conference in field goals (189) and offensive rebounds (66) and ranks third in points per game (18.9), sixth in rebounds (7.1), 11th in 3-pointers (1.6), 12th in shooting percentage (.501 on 189 of 377). He also ranks seventh among all NCAA Division I players in field goals.

His 473 points this season leave the 6-foot-3, 185-pound shooting guard nine points shy of Jarius Lyles’ sophomore record set in 2015-16. Brown has already surpassed Lyles’ record of 170 field goals and his 177 rebounds are 11 short of Kennedy Okafor’s No. 6 all-time ranking among sophomores."BalSun

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:02 pm
by reef
Yeah it didn’t make much sense when he couldn’t even play 10-12 minutes per night , something went on behind the scenes

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:35 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
section(105) wrote: 2 months ago
Spook5365 wrote: 2 months ago What a waste. Very disappointed.
Yes, totally agree. Unless he was a complete team wrecker and locker room cancer. Again ya can’t teach 6’11’ freshmen with some raw skills. I would call it a stain on Archie’s resume to miss with this kid.
Let's see where/how he plays first?

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:44 pm
by Brian
Jersey77 wrote: 2 months ago
Rhodymob05 wrote: 2 months ago Didn’t we have someone head to the portal and then stay? This would suck.
Ish, in '22 when Archie first arrived.
That won't be the case here.
Malik Martin, too, I think

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:14 pm
by steveystuds06
Jersey77 wrote: 2 months ago
rambone 78 wrote: 2 months ago We wont be able to compete with top P5 programs for recruits. That's a fact that wont change no matter how much NIL money we could offer them.

We have to win a few battles against our peers, the Daytons and VCU's of the world. Adam just made that point.

That's top of our league. Not the top of the sport.
I think we will be able to compete with them Bone.

The rest comes down to relationships and how that player feels they will fit in and get along with the team.

More important is the staff being able to first identify players that will make an impact.
I decided to do my part and make a higher monthly donation to Rhody Excellence. If every fan on here helps out, it really can make a difference, even if it's $10 a month.

But Ya, Fou isn't coming back. It's going to suck seeing him put up big numbers at another school in a year or two.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:32 pm
by McRam
section(105) wrote: 2 months ago
Spook5365 wrote: 2 months ago What a waste. Very disappointed.
Yes, totally agree. Unless he was a complete team wrecker and locker room cancer. Again ya can’t teach 6’11’ freshmen with some raw skills. I would call it a stain on Archie’s resume to miss with this kid.
Always hard to know if it was the coach or if the player was not coachable. Fou’ s attempts to act like a point guard and dribble the length of the court only to turn it over has to be beyond frustrating to the coach . I think the last time Fou did it, might have given Archi plenty of reason to give up on the kid.

Also, I wondered how much effort Fou put in during his redshirt year to get stronger. To me, He looked similar to his redshirt year . Often wondered why he lost his balance so easily when he was in traffic.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:45 pm
by DeanDome88
McRam wrote: 2 months ago
section(105) wrote: 2 months ago
Spook5365 wrote: 2 months ago What a waste. Very disappointed.
Yes, totally agree. Unless he was a complete team wrecker and locker room cancer. Again ya can’t teach 6’11’ freshmen with some raw skills. I would call it a stain on Archie’s resume to miss with this kid.
Always hard to know if it was the coach or if the player was not coachable. Fou’ s attempts to act like a point guard and dribble the length of the court only to turn it over has to be beyond frustrating to the coach . I think the last time Fou did it, might have given Archi plenty of reason to give up on the kid.

Also, I wondered how much effort Fou put in during his redshirt year to get stronger. To me, He looked similar to his redshirt year . Often wondered why he lost his balance so easily when he was in traffic.
I thought the defensive end of the court was the biggest weakness in his game. I am not sure how he was not coached up a bit more during his red shirt year and during the season.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:45 pm
by Rhody15
DeanDome88 wrote: 2 months ago
McRam wrote: 2 months ago
section(105) wrote: 2 months ago

Yes, totally agree. Unless he was a complete team wrecker and locker room cancer. Again ya can’t teach 6’11’ freshmen with some raw skills. I would call it a stain on Archie’s resume to miss with this kid.
Always hard to know if it was the coach or if the player was not coachable. Fou’ s attempts to act like a point guard and dribble the length of the court only to turn it over has to be beyond frustrating to the coach . I think the last time Fou did it, might have given Archi plenty of reason to give up on the kid.

Also, I wondered how much effort Fou put in during his redshirt year to get stronger. To me, He looked similar to his redshirt year . Often wondered why he lost his balance so easily when he was in traffic.
I thought the defensive end of the court was the biggest weakness in his game. I am not sure how he was not coached up a bit more during his red shirt year and during the season.

Defense was everybody’s weakness this season. Nobody was coaches up enough apparently.

Foumena often times thought he was Durant attempting to go 1 on 4 coast to coast resulting in a terrible shot or turnover. Way too reckless on the break.

Also was a black hole any time the ball went to him in the post.

Definitely talented, but most likely drove Archie crazy multiple times a game.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:23 am
by sevegny7
I try not to read into IG story's from young players. I did take notice of this IG story repost he had of someone Luis clearly knows well.

https://www.instagram.com/stories/iamlu ... B5ZHZnNzNo

The wording "Life is a journey and every chapter is very interesting. NEXT UP!!!! PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL"


Wondering if this is a hint Luis wants to try and play overseas? He has been in college for four years and likely will graduate I would assume.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:48 am
by PeterRamTime
sevegny7 wrote: 2 months ago I try not to read into IG story's from young players. I did take notice of this IG story repost he had of someone Luis clearly knows well.

https://www.instagram.com/stories/iamlu ... B5ZHZnNzNo

The wording "Life is a journey and every chapter is very interesting. NEXT UP!!!! PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL"


Wondering if this is a hint Luis wants to try and play overseas? He has been in college for four years and likely will graduate I would assume.
Yeah sure looks like he may be goin pro

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:26 am
by adam914
With the least surprising announcement yet, Rory in the portal.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:40 am
by RF1
adam914 wrote: 2 months ago With the least surprising announcement yet, Rory in the portal.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:09 pm
by section(105)
Rory might be decent MAAC, America East type player.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:45 pm
by Rhodymob05
This one I understand, unfortunately he was more of a bridge pieces, but best of luck to him.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:10 pm
by Ramfan22
Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:31 pm
by Rhodyg
Ramfan22 wrote: 2 months ago Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.
He most likely will not get involved, even if his assistants insist. because we know by now… It’s Miller. I hope I’m wrong

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:37 pm
by RF1
Ramfan22 wrote: 2 months ago Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.
He may be from Pawtucket but there are a lot of red flags surrounding him. He didn't work out at either NC State or OSU seeing very little action. Supposedly he and his family handlers have a much higher opinion of him than coaches. Given the issues Archie has had with his URI players, I would think he might have hesitations about going after someone with a reputation like Miranda.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:42 pm
by Jersey77
Ramfan22 wrote: 2 months ago Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.
I thought he left OK. State after just 3 games to pursue a professional career, according to the coach.
The coach did mention he obviously had some challenges, took time off for personal reasons.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:12 pm
by BobfromMatunuck
We all have to support the team like an organization now. That is the direction college basketball is heading. We cannot fall behind the curve! Trust

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:21 pm
by theblueram
BobfromMatunuck wrote: 2 months ago We all have to support the team like an organization now. That is the direction college basketball is heading. We cannot fall behind the curve! Trust
An organization sounds like the Boston Celtics. As a fan, how do you support the Celtics other than going to games?????

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:39 pm
by rhodylaw
RF1 wrote: 2 months ago
Ramfan22 wrote: 2 months ago Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.
He may be from Pawtucket but there are a lot of red flags surrounding him. He didn't work out at either NC State or OSU seeing very little action. Supposedly he and his family handlers have a much higher opinion of him than coaches. Given the issues Archie has had with his URI players, I would think he might have hesitations about going after someone with a reputation like Miranda.
Eh - don’t care. Give me the talent.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:19 pm
by steveystuds06
I want to bring in proven players, not a high upside raw big. We just let one of those leave.. Yes, I know Fou wasn't rated as high as Miranda, but Miranda hasn't done a thing so far..

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:34 pm
by Rhody15
rhodylaw wrote: 2 months ago
RF1 wrote: 2 months ago
Ramfan22 wrote: 2 months ago Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.
He may be from Pawtucket but there are a lot of red flags surrounding him. He didn't work out at either NC State or OSU seeing very little action. Supposedly he and his family handlers have a much higher opinion of him than coaches. Given the issues Archie has had with his URI players, I would think he might have hesitations about going after someone with a reputation like Miranda.
Eh - don’t care. Give me the talent.
I’ve usually had the “give me talent” attitude but we’ve missed on a lot of those recently.

Mitchell twins (granted that was Cox)
Freeman

Talent usually trumps all, but I’m a little hesitant about these types of players now.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:39 pm
by SmartyBarrett
Ramfan22 wrote: 2 months ago Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.
He's played in three total college games and has transferred twice now. Dunno if that's a red flag.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:41 pm
by Jersey77
SmartyBarrett wrote: 2 months ago
Ramfan22 wrote: 2 months ago Isaiah Miranda is entering the portal again. Pretty sure he left the Oklahoma State program a while ago, only appeared in 3 games. Don’t know if Archie will show interest but I know Bryant will be involved.
He's played in three total college games and has transferred twice now. Dunno if that's a red flag.
Pass

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:42 pm
by section(105)
Archie can’t be that desperate to go down this road again(Brayon), can he?

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:56 pm
by RIFan
theblueram wrote: 2 months ago
BobfromMatunuck wrote: 2 months ago We all have to support the team like an organization now. That is the direction college basketball is heading. We cannot fall behind the curve! Trust
An organization sounds like the Boston Celtics. As a fan, how do you support the Celtics other than going to games?????
Totally agree, pro teams don’t ask for donations to pay their players…this is BS. Are we going to hold a bake sale next? Now that these kids will be paid, they are now pros…I’m not paying them. If I wanted to pay players, I’d buy a team (if I had the money…haha). Once again, we have this issue because of all the money in college sports, but they won’t share it and want us, the fans, to pay the athletes so they can keep all the money and not share with them? What’s wrong with this picture? EVERYTHING!

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:13 pm
by RI_Bred
RIFan wrote: 2 months ago
theblueram wrote: 2 months ago
BobfromMatunuck wrote: 2 months ago We all have to support the team like an organization now. That is the direction college basketball is heading. We cannot fall behind the curve! Trust
An organization sounds like the Boston Celtics. As a fan, how do you support the Celtics other than going to games?????
Totally agree, pro teams don’t ask for donations to pay their players…this is BS. Are we going to hold a bake sale next? Now that these kids will be paid, they are now pros…I’m not paying them. If I wanted to pay players, I’d buy a team (if I had the money…haha). Once again, we have this issue because of all the money in college sports, but they won’t share it and want us, the fans, to pay the athletes so they can keep all the money and not share with them? What’s wrong with this picture? EVERYTHING!
Agree. It's fundamentally flawed. I for one am having a hard time "just accepting" it. And I know a lot of other people are too.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:21 pm
by RIFan
Understandably the players want a piece of the pie, but instead of giving it to them they are pushing the problem onto the fans…I call BS. Fix your house, that’s not my job.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:22 pm
by hrstrat57
At this point maybe Miranda just want to be close to home. I expect Providence, Bryant and Rhode Island will all kick the tires at least.

If he’s after big name image and likeness dollars we should be out. If he just wants to be close to home it’s worth pursuing IMO.

Agree the whole begging for bucks thing is weird and kinda creepy.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:23 pm
by section(105)
And they(some)get a degree. What a freakin mess this has turned into.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:28 pm
by RIFan
Coaches that were giving testimony this week said that players and families don’t care anymore about what your plans are for developing them and the family atmosphere etc…all they want to know is how much are you going to pay them.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:29 pm
by theblueram
Who runs the Ryan Center? And how much money have they given to the collective? Since they are making a profit off of URI Basketball, they should be shelling some dollars out for sure. Focus on that one for starters.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:34 pm
by section(105)
Getting harder and harder to even root for the Ole State U laundry where this thing is headed.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:38 pm
by RI_Bred
RIFan wrote: 2 months ago Understandably the players want a piece of the pie, but instead of giving it to them they are pushing the problem onto the fans…I call BS. Fix your house, that’s not my job.
What's that saying...something about a sucker being born every minute...

We'll see how it all shakes out I guess.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:02 pm
by BleedBlue87
RIFan wrote: 2 months ago Coaches that were giving testimony this week said that players and families don’t care anymore about what your plans are for developing them and the family atmosphere etc…all they want to know is how much are you going to pay them.
I do think there has been a serious change in culture. Abu occasionally talks about this on X. The money is one thing. But it's also the fact they nearly every kid was the "star" on their aau team. They've been praised their whole life and the idea of developing over the course of a 4 year period is such a foreign concept. So yes that sucks but it's the reality we deal with.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:07 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
theblueram wrote: 2 months ago
BobfromMatunuck wrote: 2 months ago We all have to support the team like an organization now. That is the direction college basketball is heading. We cannot fall behind the curve! Trust
An organization sounds like the Boston Celtics. As a fan, how do you support the Celtics other than going to games?????
Well, you send Wyc money, so that he can afford better players, I think...

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:32 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
RIFan wrote: 2 months ago
theblueram wrote: 2 months ago
BobfromMatunuck wrote: 2 months ago We all have to support the team like an organization now. That is the direction college basketball is heading. We cannot fall behind the curve! Trust
An organization sounds like the Boston Celtics. As a fan, how do you support the Celtics other than going to games?????
Totally agree, pro teams don’t ask for donations to pay their players…this is BS. Are we going to hold a bake sale next? Now that these kids will be paid, they are now pros…I’m not paying them. If I wanted to pay players, I’d buy a team (if I had the money…haha). Once again, we have this issue because of all the money in college sports, but they won’t share it and want us, the fans, to pay the athletes so they can keep all the money and not share with them? What’s wrong with this picture? EVERYTHING!
Dude...no one does bake sales anymore...it's car washes. Car washes are the new bake sale

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:36 pm
by RIFan
Bake sale in the winter, car washes when the weather breaks.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:51 pm
by Rhodymob05
I was thinking this too, I thought the colleges were making too much money and that the student athletes deserved a piece, but in reality , the fans need to pay more? That can’t be sustainable.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:59 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
Rhodymob05 wrote: 2 months ago I was thinking this too, I thought the colleges were making too much money and that the student athletes deserved a piece, but in reality , the fans need to pay more? That can’t be sustainable.
Exactly...it's not about splitting the gigantic pile of money...at this level, it's about creating a totally new pile of money

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:18 pm
by adam914
RIFan wrote: 2 months ago Coaches that were giving testimony this week said that players and families don’t care anymore about what your plans are for developing them and the family atmosphere etc…all they want to know is how much are you going to pay them.
So basically just like those same coaches have always been. Weird how all of a sudden that's wrong when the players start doing it.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:22 pm
by Don_Keedick
Listen, no one really wants to give up their own money. Bottom line is that this is how college basketball is going. If you bleed Keaney blue, you’ll support the collective. That does NOT mean every fan has to or should donate, everyone’s financial situation is different. I am only a very small donor and received a personal thank you from Stone. You just have to support it and not boycott the idea if you want a competitive basketball team. #gorhody https://rhodyexcellence.com/join/

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:31 pm
by Rhody_NYCT
adam914 wrote: 2 months ago
RIFan wrote: 2 months ago Coaches that were giving testimony this week said that players and families don’t care anymore about what your plans are for developing them and the family atmosphere etc…all they want to know is how much are you going to pay them.
So basically just like those same coaches have always been. Weird how all of a sudden that's wrong when the players start doing it.
This kind of mentality is the end of college sports. How can you compare grown men that have proven themselves and earned a JOB to lead a basketball team and program with all the responsibilities that come with that, to a kid who is playing a sport at a college (oh, on a full ride)? MOST successful coaches stay at a college for a long time. Some leave after a relatively short period of time because they have a better offer and opportunity. Hurley left after six years right? Coaches don’t jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years. It’s a joke. But it’s more of a joke to compare the Coach to the collegiate player. I’m tired of this. Let the whole thing burn down until some sensible rules on are put in place.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:52 pm
by adam914
Rhody_NYCT wrote: 2 months ago
adam914 wrote: 2 months ago
RIFan wrote: 2 months ago Coaches that were giving testimony this week said that players and families don’t care anymore about what your plans are for developing them and the family atmosphere etc…all they want to know is how much are you going to pay them.
So basically just like those same coaches have always been. Weird how all of a sudden that's wrong when the players start doing it.
This kind of mentality is the end of college sports. How can you compare grown men that have proven themselves and earned a JOB to lead a basketball team and program with all the responsibilities that come with that, to a kid who is playing a sport at a college (oh, on a full ride)? MOST successful coaches stay at a college for a long time. Some leave after a relatively short period of time because they have a better offer and opportunity. Hurley left after six years right? Coaches don’t jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years. It’s a joke. But it’s more of a joke to compare the Coach to the collegiate player. I’m tired of this. Let the whole thing burn down until some sensible rules on are put in place.
Sure, some coaches stay at a college for a long time, as long as they get an extension and more money. And they don't jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years because they have a contract that guarantees they'll get paid or get a hefty buyout. And I'm not saying all players should be getting millions per year like coaches do.

Coaches have an incentive to stay. I'm sure more players would be happy to stay at the same school if given the same guarantees as a coach. Oh and what plays a major factor in how successful a coach is? I'm pretty sure its the players. Remember that saying its not the X's and the O's its the Jimmy's and the Joe's?

I don't think the current system is really the best way to handle all this, and I don't think it'll be the ultimate long term solution either. But I am just glad the players are finally getting a piece of the pie at least until a better system is in place. And I think a lot of these comments coming from coaches complaining about it are very disingenuous. It's the virtue signaling that bothers me.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:14 am
by Rhody_NYCT
adam914 wrote: 2 months ago
Rhody_NYCT wrote: 2 months ago
adam914 wrote: 2 months ago

So basically just like those same coaches have always been. Weird how all of a sudden that's wrong when the players start doing it.
This kind of mentality is the end of college sports. How can you compare grown men that have proven themselves and earned a JOB to lead a basketball team and program with all the responsibilities that come with that, to a kid who is playing a sport at a college (oh, on a full ride)? MOST successful coaches stay at a college for a long time. Some leave after a relatively short period of time because they have a better offer and opportunity. Hurley left after six years right? Coaches don’t jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years. It’s a joke. But it’s more of a joke to compare the Coach to the collegiate player. I’m tired of this. Let the whole thing burn down until some sensible rules on are put in place.
Sure, some coaches stay at a college for a long time, as long as they get an extension and more money. And they don't jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years because they have a contract that guarantees they'll get paid or get a hefty buyout. They have an incentive to stay. I'm sure more players would be happy to stay at the same school if given the same guarantees as a coach. Oh and what plays a major factor in how successful a coach is? I'm pretty sure its the players. Remember that saying its not the X's and the O's its the Jimmy's and the Joe's?

I don't think the current system is really the best way to handle all this, and I don't think it'll be the ultimate long term solution either. But I am just glad the players are finally getting a piece of the pie at least for now until a better system is in place. And I think a lot of these comments coming from coaches complaining about it are very disingenuous. It's the virtue signaling that bothers me.
The players deserve to make money, but it can't be a free for all. If there is no continuity then there will be a sport that eventually loses its popularity. And should all college athletes get paid? Or just football and basketball etc? There are so many things that need to be figured out here. And Since when is playing a D1 sport not a privilege? Especially on a high level. It's as if it's a punishment unless they are paid big bucks. This is insane. If they are all about making money and not interested in the college experience, go try and play in the g league or overseas. We need to figure out what exactly a college sport is. Is it semi-pro? Pro? Without college sports most of these guys would be without a basketball career. Like I said, a lot of these guys deserve something, but let's keep it in persecutive before the sport is ruined.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:50 am
by adam914
Rhody_NYCT wrote: 2 months ago
adam914 wrote: 2 months ago
Rhody_NYCT wrote: 2 months ago

This kind of mentality is the end of college sports. How can you compare grown men that have proven themselves and earned a JOB to lead a basketball team and program with all the responsibilities that come with that, to a kid who is playing a sport at a college (oh, on a full ride)? MOST successful coaches stay at a college for a long time. Some leave after a relatively short period of time because they have a better offer and opportunity. Hurley left after six years right? Coaches don’t jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years. It’s a joke. But it’s more of a joke to compare the Coach to the collegiate player. I’m tired of this. Let the whole thing burn down until some sensible rules on are put in place.
Sure, some coaches stay at a college for a long time, as long as they get an extension and more money. And they don't jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years because they have a contract that guarantees they'll get paid or get a hefty buyout. They have an incentive to stay. I'm sure more players would be happy to stay at the same school if given the same guarantees as a coach. Oh and what plays a major factor in how successful a coach is? I'm pretty sure its the players. Remember that saying its not the X's and the O's its the Jimmy's and the Joe's?

I don't think the current system is really the best way to handle all this, and I don't think it'll be the ultimate long term solution either. But I am just glad the players are finally getting a piece of the pie at least for now until a better system is in place. And I think a lot of these comments coming from coaches complaining about it are very disingenuous. It's the virtue signaling that bothers me.
The players deserve to make money, but it can't be a free for all. If there is no continuity then there will be a sport that eventually loses its popularity. And should all college athletes get paid? Or just football and basketball etc? There are so many things that need to be figured out here. And Since when is playing a D1 sport not a privilege? Especially on a high level. It's as if it's a punishment unless they are paid big bucks. This is insane. If they are all about making money and not interested in the college experience, go try and play in the g league or overseas. We need to figure out what exactly a college sport is. Is it semi-pro? Pro? Without college sports most of these guys would be without a basketball career. Like I said, a lot of these guys deserve something, but let's keep it in persecutive before the sport is ruined.
It honestly sounds like we basically agree for the most part. Like I said, I'm not out here saying every player deserves millions. I do struggle with the transfer idea, just because I have yet to hear a compelling enough reason to convince me that a person shouldn't be allowed to transfer schools without a penalty if they want to. Whether that person is an athlete or not.

I agree that there is a ton to figure out, its complicated, and the current system isn't the answer. I think ultimately it probably needs to be some kind of revenue sharing model or something. So the only athletes getting paid should be ones who are generating revenue for the schools, NCAA, sponsors, networks, etc. So yeah, for the large majority of athletes that's either going to be nothing or very little. I don't think I've ever seen an athlete say it's a punishment unless they are paid big bucks either. So I'm not sure where that's coming from. And if there was more of a legitimate minor league pathway in place, then maybe that would solve some of the issue as well, but right now there's not really.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:20 am
by RhodyKyle
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 2 months ago
theblueram wrote: 2 months ago
BobfromMatunuck wrote: 2 months ago We all have to support the team like an organization now. That is the direction college basketball is heading. We cannot fall behind the curve! Trust
An organization sounds like the Boston Celtics. As a fan, how do you support the Celtics other than going to games?????
Well, you send Wyc money, so that he can afford better players, I think...
I think the NBA has a better TV deal than the A10 so they don't require much more than that and ticket revenue

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:18 am
by RamStock
Rhody_NYCT wrote: 2 months ago
adam914 wrote: 2 months ago
Rhody_NYCT wrote: 2 months ago

This kind of mentality is the end of college sports. How can you compare grown men that have proven themselves and earned a JOB to lead a basketball team and program with all the responsibilities that come with that, to a kid who is playing a sport at a college (oh, on a full ride)? MOST successful coaches stay at a college for a long time. Some leave after a relatively short period of time because they have a better offer and opportunity. Hurley left after six years right? Coaches don’t jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years. It’s a joke. But it’s more of a joke to compare the Coach to the collegiate player. I’m tired of this. Let the whole thing burn down until some sensible rules on are put in place.
Sure, some coaches stay at a college for a long time, as long as they get an extension and more money. And they don't jump around to 2-3-4 schools in 5 years because they have a contract that guarantees they'll get paid or get a hefty buyout. They have an incentive to stay. I'm sure more players would be happy to stay at the same school if given the same guarantees as a coach. Oh and what plays a major factor in how successful a coach is? I'm pretty sure its the players. Remember that saying its not the X's and the O's its the Jimmy's and the Joe's?

I don't think the current system is really the best way to handle all this, and I don't think it'll be the ultimate long term solution either. But I am just glad the players are finally getting a piece of the pie at least for now until a better system is in place. And I think a lot of these comments coming from coaches complaining about it are very disingenuous. It's the virtue signaling that bothers me.
The players deserve to make money, but it can't be a free for all. If there is no continuity then there will be a sport that eventually loses its popularity. And should all college athletes get paid? Or just football and basketball etc? There are so many things that need to be figured out here. And Since when is playing a D1 sport not a privilege? Especially on a high level. It's as if it's a punishment unless they are paid big bucks. This is insane. If they are all about making money and not interested in the college experience, go try and play in the g league or overseas. We need to figure out what exactly a college sport is. Is it semi-pro? Pro? Without college sports most of these guys would be without a basketball career. Like I said, a lot of these guys deserve something, but let's keep it in persecutive before the sport is ruined.
Both college basketball and football have already lost their popularity to a lot of fans. College football had a good system with the 4 team playoff and the importance of the regular season, but now they are moving it to 14 teams. The only thing college basketball still has left is the first weekend of the tournament which is still the best weekend in sports. The rest of college basketball with the transfer portal, the NIL and the conference realignments have made both college basketball and football a lot less interesting and many people you talk with just don’t follow it like they used to.

Re: Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:46 am
by Rhodymob05
Yea you can’t compare a grown man who has a career making money supporting a family (in many cases) to a college student athlete who’s 18/19 years old making some extra scratch. Coaches or any employee should be obligated to stay at least 5-6 years, but it’s not comparable to the players.