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Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (Toledo)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:47 pm
by RamStock
Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years ago
This is so weird. Earlier I mentioned it would be funny if Berry committed here after Ousman decommitted, but I didn't actually expect it to happen.
DC and '83, don't worry about "misinformation" - I think nowadays even those that are close to recruits and think they know they deal, really don't. I'm happy to have him. Obviously Murray would have been great, but I'm thinking we either must not have had a chance and/or the staff thinks Berry is a better fit.
The no longer had a scholarship offer from RI came directly from Berry last week.
Recruiting rollercoaster.
I believe Cox uses leverage to close deals. His 20 years of experience tell him that URI’s odds of getting a commitment by waiting around for a recruit to commit on his “announcement day” aren’t great especially when that recruit has real interest from a P5. Murray is going to wait until April 25th and if he gets a commitment request from Georgia he is going to take it. Cox didn’t want to be in that position on April 25th.
Pushes Murray to make a decision yesterday and gets a no. Closes on Berry.
My guess is this is the last Fr for this class. Abou backing out opened the 4th spot for this class. Cox needs to find a big man that is immediately eligible (JUCO or Grad Transfer). The other option is to wait until the Transfer Rule vote in May to know if Mitchells are immediately eligible. Then fill the last scholarship spot.
Agree with all of this. Could use another big and set their sights on point guard for the 2021 recruiting class with Fatts and Sheppard leaving.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:49 pm
by rhodyfan3000
This is next level 3D chess recruiting.
I'm guessing he eats the 13th scholarship for now until he sees how the NCAA transfer situation and Fatts situations play out.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:49 pm
by DC_Rams
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
giovanni wrote: ↑4 years ago
" Obviously Murray would have been great, but I'm thinking we either must not have had a chance and/or the staff thinks Berry is a better fit."
Or possibly if offer was rescinded then offered again for whatever reason, Tres decided to jump on this time because he really liked URI and saw the Murray was a target and wasn't going to take a chance of getting cut out or more crazier stuff happening.
Either way great get like the film I have seen happy to have him. Welcome aboard Tres!!
It came down to thinking Murray would go to Georgetown and now we don’t get either. Tres Berry has enough upside where we can’t afford to miss on both. I think this kid really liked URI a lot and was very disappointed when he didn’t come her last week
Bingo, Cox learned very valuables lessons from the Bishop, McCleod and Walker recruitments.
Learning curve is STEEP. Stay the course.
I’m happy with Tres. He really wanted to be here.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:50 pm
by theblueram
HAHAHA!!! This about says it for me.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:06 pm
by Rhody74
rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago
The Art of the Deal -- by David Cox
Please don’t confuse the two.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:06 pm
by Rhodyram
Plot twist!!!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:09 pm
by rhodyfan3000
Rhody74 wrote: ↑4 years ago
rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago
The Art of the Deal -- by David Cox
Please don’t confuse the two.
The Art of the Steal?
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:25 pm
by giovanni
Not sure exactly what transpired. But the majority of people here wanted Tres. Then the many things began to happen. Abou commits, Twins then commit, Malik commits. Apparently with all movement offer is now not there for him. He is seemingly very disappointed and possibly bitter. Many people here are disappointed. Abou decommits. Its reported Tres will take his talent to Toledo. Last night he pops up a message that he will be making a decision today with Rhody listed. We think there is little chance if any he will commit to URI. Then we get the surprisingly good news.
Whatever transpired, I am very happy for Tres. By all accounts he really wanted to be a Ram. And through all of the twists and turns of his recruitment it must have been somewhat of an emotional roller coaster for him that ends up working out well for all parties involved.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:28 pm
by Billyboy78
Holy Toledo!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:34 pm
by steviep123
Did we really pull an offer from him earlier only to offer again? So much has happened over the past couple of weeks I may have missed that part. From Berry's twitter, there was only him deleting his post from a few weeks ago in a Rhody uniform asking how it looked as well as a cryptic tweet later talking about people lying to him (which literally could refer to anything and not Rhody). Then there was his response to Ousmane's commitment tweet with Ousmane responding with something like, "your turn" but I don't remember reading that we officially rescinded the offer. Maybe that was part of the Malik Martin signing? If so, other than no real shot at Murray (if that's the case - we're in his top 5 as of 2 days ago), what changed?
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:39 pm
by rhodyfan3000
Maybe Cox just let him cool off a bit and then re offered due to the fact that Tres was obviously very upset over losing his top choice and Cox regaining a scholarship back due to Ousmane de committing.
Perhaps it gave Berry some time to think, they are graduating two backcourt players over the next year, that's not a long time to wait to try and gain a starting job. It's not as bad as I thought, etc, etc
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:42 pm
by RhodyKyle
rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago
This is next level 3D chess recruiting.
The young kids call it 4D chess.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:11 pm
by ramster
Verbal commits now has updated Berry to URI
https://www.zagsblog.com/2020/04/10/rho ... tres-berry
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Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:18 pm
by KevanBoyles
So how many are in this class? I have Berry, Leggett, and Wood. Anyone else?
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:34 pm
by reef
Wow this is a shocker and great news
Ish and Tres backcourt of the future baby
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by Rhody83
KevanBoyles wrote: ↑4 years ago
So how many are in this class? I have Berry, Leggett, and Wood. Anyone else?
That is correct.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:43 pm
by giovanni
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:50 pm
by RF1
Given the current recruiting environment, I won't fully believe it and rest easy until I see him suited up and on the court for a game.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:58 pm
by steviep123
RF1 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Given the current recruiting environment, I won't fully believe it and rest easy until I see him suited up and on the court for a game.
In the current environment we are in, that could be said of most recruits on most teams.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:37 pm
by Billyboy78
NLI day is in 5 days. Looking forward to a signature.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:48 pm
by McRam
When does Abou re-committ?
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:16 pm
by steveystuds06
reef wrote: ↑4 years ago
Wow this is a shocker and great news
Ish and Tres backcourt of the future baby
I hope Wood doesn't come on this board because we talk like he's not on the team. Ish Tres and Wood are the backcourt of the future baby!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:23 pm
by steviep123
Agreed. I can't wait for the Leggett/Wood/Berry trio over the next several years!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:48 pm
by PeterRamTime
steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Agreed. I can't wait for the Leggett/Wood/Berry trio over the next several years!
The Big L-W-B!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:17 pm
by The Dude
Glad to see he's still onboard! Excited to see him play with Wood, Legget, & rest of the team! Rhody is looking really dangerous now! They are one big man away from being stacked and super threatening to opponents on paper.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:41 pm
by luke
ery excited to hear Berry is coming now . With Wood and Legget and Berry it sounds like we got some great freshmen . Somehow I think Wood
might be a real sleeper the way Jeff was kind of an underrated sleeper . Wood may have slipped in the ratings , but we have to remember how such
ratings are not that reliable or predictive of success in D 1 Basketball. The coaching staff obviously was eager to get him and got him early. Leggett
and Berry have been recruited by big time programs . Looking forward to rooting for all three . Hope they all get their chances in 20-21 to reduce
the load on Fatts and Shepard . wish we could have had one of them this past season to save some of the wear and tear on Jeff and Fatts.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:48 pm
by sevegny7
Looks like uri doubled down on the Berry's today haha. Offering his brother I'm sure shortly after closing on tres. His brother has alot of power 5 offers.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:08 pm
by rambone 78
What a surprise is right!
Great addition.
Recruiting has never been so fluid as it is right now.
Get these 4 guys signed next week!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:19 pm
by Rhody15
I like his brother more than other early recruits solely based on the fact he didn’t call us “Rhode Island University.”
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:25 pm
by SandorClegane
I would take any guy they compare to John Starks. Guys with heart can carry programs. Looking forward to watching this kid play.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:27 pm
by giovanni
SandorClegane wrote: ↑4 years ago
I would take any guy they compare to John Starks. Guys with heart can carry programs. Looking forward to watching this kid play.
Wow maybe dating myself a little but loved John Starks game and attitude as well
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:41 am
by CHICO 78
So glad we got Berry. I was seriously disapointed when it seemed to fall through.
With his wingspan, This kid will be a defensive stopper. With him, Fatts and Martin out pressuring the perimeter
we could have serious 3 pt defense.
Does anybody know what Berry's 3 pt % was his senior year ? Can't seem to find his stats anywhere on
line.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:53 am
by PeteRI
Tres says being at the RC for the VCU game showed him what Rhody basketball and our fans are all about. Look forward to many more nights just like it!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:55 am
by rhodyfan3000
Does Morey look like an older version of when Toby McGuire played Peter Parker?
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:14 pm
by theblueram
Welcome to the Show TRES!!!!!!!!!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:26 pm
by Running Ram
I love this news!!
Welcome Tres Berry!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:28 pm
by 4Diffs
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:55 pm
by DC_Rams
Give our guy a sticky!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:44 pm
by Running Ram
Every time I think about this recruitment I wonder, how does a kid with a basketball body like his end up as like the 470th recruit? I would be surprised if he doesn't perform like a top tier recruit.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:01 pm
by PeterRamTime
Running Ram wrote: ↑4 years ago
Every time I think about this recruitment I wonder, how does a kid with a basketball body like his end up as like the 470th recruit? I would be surprised if he doesn't perform like a top tier recruit.
For someone like Finklestein to give him such high praise means a lot to me. He's been around a while, so he should know what he's talking about. Tres sounds like a high major guy for sure. I think he just blossomed a little too late for the big Boyz. Good for us!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:47 pm
by PeteRI
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago
Running Ram wrote: ↑4 years ago
Every time I think about this recruitment I wonder, how does a kid with a basketball body like his end up as like the 470th recruit? I would be surprised if he doesn't perform like a top tier recruit.
For someone like Finklestein to give him such high praise means a lot to me. He's been around a while, so he should know what he's talking about. Tres sounds like a high major guy for sure. I think he just blossomed a little too late for the big Boyz. Good for us!
I'm not enough of a hoops-head to be familiar with his work. But if he's an expert, I'm even happier Tres will be a Ram.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:54 pm
by URIRecruitingInfo
PeteRI wrote: ↑4 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago
Running Ram wrote: ↑4 years ago
Every time I think about this recruitment I wonder, how does a kid with a basketball body like his end up as like the 470th recruit? I would be surprised if he doesn't perform like a top tier recruit.
For someone like Finklestein to give him such high praise means a lot to me. He's been around a while, so he should know what he's talking about. Tres sounds like a high major guy for sure. I think he just blossomed a little too late for the big Boyz. Good for us!
I'm not enough of a hoops-head to be familiar with his work. But if he's an expert, I'm even happier Tres will be a Ram.
I’ve never seen Finkelstein give anything but high praise, he’s the Rothstein of recruiting. But he’s right about Tres!
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:59 pm
by Rhody83
I agree that Finkelstein is a promoter more than a evaluator.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:10 pm
by SGreenwell
Running Ram wrote: ↑4 years ago
Every time I think about this recruitment I wonder, how does a kid with a basketball body like his end up as like the 470th recruit? I would be surprised if he doesn't perform like a top tier recruit.
Eh, just think of how many high school and prep basketball teams are out there - The area is so wide, no one person can conceivably look at each prospect in person. And the other side of the equation, you have a bunch of kids, ranging from 15 to 19 years old, that can change in athletic ability, positively and negatively, from month to month. There are just so many variables in scouting and recruiting that it's never going to be especially precise.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:21 pm
by rambone 78
We could be fortunate that Berry didn't have a high rating.
More P5's might have come calling if they saw him rated as a 4 star or whatever.
I'm going to assume he's a late bloomer and is way better than 470th. He sure seems like it.
The proverbial diamond in the rough.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:16 am
by sf2010
Holy shit - his hands look photoshopped in that top picture in the article. Looks like Kawhi hands.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:26 am
by Rhodyhooopz
This could end up being the best signing of this year. I like what i see on tape of this kid alot.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:48 pm
by Ramrod
sf2010 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Holy shit - his hands look photoshopped in that top picture in the article. Looks like Kawhi hands.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around 6’10 wingspan. I remember when the Celtics drafted Marcus Smart and people were gushing about his 6’9 wingspan at the same height. Also, I remember Rondo had these similarly huge hands and long arms for his size.
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:58 pm
by giovanni
Re: ‘20 TN PG - Norance Tres Berry (URI) (surprise!)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:24 pm
by rhodyblue12
This player is going to be a really nice addition.
If he can consistently hit the 3, his defensive abilities will get him minutes day one.
