Re: 2022 Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:28 pm
Yes, he had a top 20 national recruiting class (#3 B10) for 2021 and 4 recruits already signed for 2022.
He would need to show a big improvement next season.
Yes, he had a top 20 national recruiting class (#3 B10) for 2021 and 4 recruits already signed for 2022.
Can't be serious about Skerry.ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Yeah. Trash. No way Bobby or Richard come here. And Skerry isn’t exactly insider info.
Again, I would caution people from looking at his overall record. His first year they went 1-31 (1-17). Even if you include that year, you are incorrect about him being under 500 in the CAA. He is currently 96-92. 95-75 if you exclude his first year.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoCan't be serious about Skerry.ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Yeah. Trash. No way Bobby or Richard come here. And Skerry isn’t exactly insider info.
Aside from being a JB assistant and also at PC, there should be no interest in him.
At age 52 what has he really done?
After 11 years at Towson, he has a losing record in the CAA.
He brings absolutely nothing to the table.
This would be worse than the Baron hire.
Yes, I didn't update his total record in the CAA the past 2 weeks which did put him over 500. My mistake.Bos8 wrote: ↑2 years agoAgain, I would caution people from looking at his overall record. His first year they went 1-31 (1-17). Even if you include that year, you are incorrect about him being under 500 in the CAA. He is currently 96-92. 95-75 if you exclude his first year.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoCan't be serious about Skerry.ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Yeah. Trash. No way Bobby or Richard come here. And Skerry isn’t exactly insider info.
Aside from being a JB assistant and also at PC, there should be no interest in him.
At age 52 what has he really done?
After 11 years at Towson, he has a losing record in the CAA.
He brings absolutely nothing to the table.
This would be worse than the Baron hire.
I am not arguing for or against him. I am just stating facts for the sake of clarity.
To be honest - I don't really trust them as super tied-in sources. Their tweet was saying Cox's contract was up. The buyout is cheap but his contract isn't up. First red flag.
Oh I would certainly agree. The account that I shared is run by a few people that are lower level assistants/support staff etc that have the password. Definitely have a bias in certain postings, but check out who follows and interacts with the account. It's another, where there is smoke, there is fire type posting imo. I also think when they say "contract is up" they mean 1 year is remaining and a decision needs to be made one way or the other.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoTo be honest - I don't really trust them as super tied-in sources. Their tweet was saying Cox's contract was up. The buyout is cheap but his contract isn't up. First red flag.
Hurley isn't dropping from ASU now (as much as I would love him), as the AD just gave a vote of confidence in him for one more year.
Richard Pitino is a name I've heard thrown around - and the Tom Ryan/Pitino family connection is definitely there. So that's intriguing.
Skerry is the furthest thing from insider info as ATP said.
I trust the Borzello tweet. (because I WANT to).
I had read somewhere, that Steve Wojciechowski might also be a possibility for them, though it may not be accurate, that is another name out there of the unemployed who will be able to grab a job somewhere is he still wants to coach. He's only 45 or so.ace wrote: ↑2 years ago If you’re interested in reading about coaching candidates, in general. They acknowledge that some of these are not at all possible for the Hoyas, but I like seeing what names others put out there. They do a great job covering Georgetown basketball. Georgetown is my husband’s team, so I’ll always have a soft spot for them.
https://www.casualhoya.com/2022/2/25/22 ... ler-pitino
You're closer than I am - but 0.0% chance Bobby winds up in the Big East coaching against Danny twice a year and recruiting against each other.ace wrote: ↑2 years ago https://theathletic.com/3148723/2022/02 ... -carousel/
Some interesting tidbits (Seton Hall? Interesting. Providence? You’re dead to me, Robert.)
Archie Miller, former head coach. Miller is only 43 and would like to coach again, but considering he is still being paid handsomely by Indiana, don’t expect him to take a job for the sake of taking a job. His tenure didn’t end well in Bloomington, but Miller is still highly thought of from his tenure at Dayton, where he took the Flyers to four NCAA Tournaments (and the 2014 Elite Eight) in six years. Having played at NC State, Miller could be an attractive candidate if Clemson opens (or NC State, for that matter), and it’s possible a high-end mid-major job like Murray State would appeal to him as well.
Bobby Hurley, head coach, Arizona State. The Sun Devils’ struggles over the last two seasons have put Hurley in the crosshairs, but multiple sources are inclined to believe he’ll have another year in Tempe. It certainly helps, in the worst possible way, that Arizona State football is a mess and administrators might not want to take on two problems at once. Even if ASU doesn’t pull the trigger, Hurley could be this year’s Shaka Smart and leave for another job before the walls close in. Given his Jersey roots, he would be an appealing choice at Seton Hall or Providence if those jobs came open (though going up against his brother Danny could be awkward), or if something opens up in the ACC.
11 years with zero NCAA appearances in the CAA at Towson for Skerry.Bos8 wrote: ↑2 years agoAgain, I would caution people from looking at his overall record. His first year they went 1-31 (1-17). Even if you include that year, you are incorrect about him being under 500 in the CAA. He is currently 96-92. 95-75 if you exclude his first year.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoCan't be serious about Skerry.ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Yeah. Trash. No way Bobby or Richard come here. And Skerry isn’t exactly insider info.
Aside from being a JB assistant and also at PC, there should be no interest in him.
At age 52 what has he really done?
After 11 years at Towson, he has a losing record in the CAA.
He brings absolutely nothing to the table.
This would be worse than the Baron hire.
I am not arguing for or against him. I am just stating facts for the sake of clarity.
People keep trying to bring Bobby back to the east coast. Maybe it happens sometime, but he’s not his brother. Bobby and his family were living in sunny Florida when Dan dragged them to Wagner. So much of this is just to get people talking, and I love it.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoYou're closer than I am - but 0.0% chance Bobby winds up in the Big East coaching against Danny twice a year and recruiting against each other.ace wrote: ↑2 years ago https://theathletic.com/3148723/2022/02 ... -carousel/
Some interesting tidbits (Seton Hall? Interesting. Providence? You’re dead to me, Robert.)
Archie Miller, former head coach. Miller is only 43 and would like to coach again, but considering he is still being paid handsomely by Indiana, don’t expect him to take a job for the sake of taking a job. His tenure didn’t end well in Bloomington, but Miller is still highly thought of from his tenure at Dayton, where he took the Flyers to four NCAA Tournaments (and the 2014 Elite Eight) in six years. Having played at NC State, Miller could be an attractive candidate if Clemson opens (or NC State, for that matter), and it’s possible a high-end mid-major job like Murray State would appeal to him as well.
Bobby Hurley, head coach, Arizona State. The Sun Devils’ struggles over the last two seasons have put Hurley in the crosshairs, but multiple sources are inclined to believe he’ll have another year in Tempe. It certainly helps, in the worst possible way, that Arizona State football is a mess and administrators might not want to take on two problems at once. Even if ASU doesn’t pull the trigger, Hurley could be this year’s Shaka Smart and leave for another job before the walls close in. Given his Jersey roots, he would be an appealing choice at Seton Hall or Providence if those jobs came open (though going up against his brother Danny could be awkward), or if something opens up in the ACC.
Also Cooley isn't leaving PC. He just bought a new house. He's from Providence.
All of the Archie stuff makes sense, but that sensibility can't penetrate my tinfoil hat!!
Could very well be .500 in conference by the end of the year, and win 7/8 rolling into the Pac12 tourney.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago After much speculation early in the season that Bobby Hurley's seat is extremely hot, it now appears he may be safe for now.
I hope so and still think he can turn things around at ASU.
He has quietly won 5 of his last 6 games.
Much heralded F Marcus Bagley has only played 3 games this season, due to a knee injury.
He rebuilt almost the entire roster adding 9 new players 21-22.
He had one top recruiting classes in the P12 in 2020 and 2021, and off to good start in 2022.
His contract runs through 23-24.
Next season will probably be make or break for him.
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... e%20desert.
Yes, I am rooting for Bobby and ASU.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoCould very well be .500 in conference by the end of the year, and win 7/8 rolling into the Pac12 tourney.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago After much speculation early in the season that Bobby Hurley's seat is extremely hot, it now appears he may be safe for now.
I hope so and still think he can turn things around at ASU.
He has quietly won 5 of his last 6 games.
Much heralded F Marcus Bagley has only played 3 games this season, due to a knee injury.
He rebuilt almost the entire roster adding 9 new players 21-22.
He had one top recruiting classes in the P12 in 2020 and 2021, and off to good start in 2022.
His contract runs through 23-24.
Next season will probably be make or break for him.
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... e%20desert.
Did also knock off #3 UCLA (before losing to them as #12).
Pac12 is another one of those conferences that could see anyone win it. As good as Arizona is, they did lose to UCLA and it'll be interesting to see how they recover after losing to Colorado.
Wouldn't shock me if Bobby made a run to the semis in the conference tourney.
See I'd take any of those too. We're only getting the high level guys that need to rehab an image or have some warts.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago Top coaches that can be splash hires but carry some baggage.
I wonder if we see a landing spot for them soon.
Sean Miller, Gregg Marshall, and Chris Mack (to a lesser extent) all with either school or NCAA issues.
Mark Turgeon an excellent coach also available but ran his course at Maryland.
Took 3 different programs to the NCAAT and 2 Sweet 16's.
If we get Archie then I will hope he is the man to make it happen. I just don't have a high opinion of him as a coach and have won $$$ predicting losses on his part over the years.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoWut?Seawrightspostgame wrote: ↑2 years agoIt’s hard to avoid criminals in college basketball.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Yeah, the FBI loves Sean. Can we stop pining after criminals to coach the team?
Archie is awful. Look at his teams at Indiana where he was over his head and the big run at Dayton came with a very fortunate roster that he would never assemble again there. He can take Dayton to the last eight teams but he can’t get Indiana to contend in the BIG10?? Sounds like a fluke.
He would be an obvious upgrade but he hit his ceiling at Dayton when he had to reload and again at Indiana.
He won 20+ games and made the dance every year after the elite 8 run. The next year after that run when he graduated the whole team they made the 2nd round.
He built Dayton into what they are.
At IU he turned the program around, in fairly short order. If not for Covid they were an NCAA team, then his team was decimated by injury.
I don’t care about a “fluke” judgement, even though Covid and injuries explain a lot of that. But he proved he can win in the A10. We play in the A10 we want to be the program he had at Dayton for 6 years.
He’s young enough where maybe he wants to stay at a place that invests in basketball.
Or maybe he wants to prove he can win again and go to another big school.
If he gets a big job again it’ll because he rebuilt us.
I’ll take that.
Maybe it’ll force some donors to invest again.
So weird. Why do programs do this?
You have to pay him either way - None of these guys are "at will" employees, so it's not like you're saving salary by firing them with a couple games left and turning things over to an assistant. I think most NCAA coaches finish out the season and then get fired, because of the length of the season and because (I imagine) of the legitimate connections some coaches probably have with their players. ETA - Even in the non-sports world, plenty of places are going to let you or have you work your last two weeks, instead of shit-canning you immediately.
Derek Kellog pt 2
Perfect match. Derek Kellogg II