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No FG attempts last 19 minutes wow

Sounds promising! Hope it happens for him.

Jeff will have back to back games in Boston

No reason for them to do it before they have to. They control two players this way.

That would be such a Raps thing to do not make room for JD

reef wrote: ↑1 year ago That would be such a Raps thing to do not make room for JD

Interesting to follow the thread on Jeff on the Raptors site.
Will see what happens by end of day Thursday

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewto ... &start=180

Sounds like a tough spot

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/dowtin-jr- ... nt/sn-amp/

JD didn’t play tonight

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Jeff's last 10 games

• 18 assists 3 turnovers = 6.0 A/TO Ratio

• 13 assists zero TOs last 6 games

• Blocked Tyler Herro Shot vs Miami

• 13-31 FG = 43%, 4-12 3FG = 33%, 2-4 FT = 50%

• 6 steals

• 10 rebounds

When you are not expected to shoot so you only take open shots, your shooting and floor play percentages rise. By knowing and executing your assigned role, you help your team.

reef wrote: ↑1 year ago JD didn’t play tonight

This thread from Toronto Raptors message board pretty well explains the situation with Dowtin and the options Raptors have. Jeff is limited to 50 games this season.
Toronto must make choice to sign him to contract and have Dowtin available for the upcoming Playoffs or keep him as a RFA (Restricted Free Agent) and not be eligible for playoffs. Choice must be made by this Sunday.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewto ... p105201205

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Raptors look like a team who needs Jeff Dowtin Jr. in loss to Celtics

by Mike Luciano 2 hours ago
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https://raptorsrapture.com/2023/04/05/r ... s-celtics/

I would hope that even if the Raptors don't make the move on Jeff, his play this past season speaks for itself and one would have to think that other GMs have been paying attention.

F@cking hosers, eh? Go El Jefe!

It seems so ironic- if they want to keep JD for the long term, they don’t convert him and he remains a restricted free agent for next season and “control” him , whereas if they convert him now, he becomes an unrestricted free agent and they lose “control” of Jeff for next season.

Definitely a vote of confidence for Jeff from the Raptors for the future by not making him playoff eligible. Weird!

McRam wrote: ↑1 year ago It seems so ironic- if they want to keep JD for the long term, they don’t convert him and he remains a restricted free agent for next season and “control” him , whereas if they convert him now, he becomes an unrestricted free agent and they lose “control” of Jeff for next season.

Definitely a vote of confidence for Jeff from the Raptors for the future by not making him playoff eligible. Weird!

Nurse is probably gone after this year, which will bring a slew of changes to the Raptors' roster. I'm positive Dowtin would rather pocket the increased pay that probably comes with a proper NBA contract the rest of the year, vs. being released during training camp next year by a new coach.

SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year ago

McRam wrote: ↑1 year ago It seems so ironic- if they want to keep JD for the long term, they don’t convert him and he remains a restricted free agent for next season and “control” him , whereas if they convert him now, he becomes an unrestricted free agent and they lose “control” of Jeff for next season.

Definitely a vote of confidence for Jeff from the Raptors for the future by not making him playoff eligible. Weird!

Nurse is probably gone after this year, which will bring a slew of changes to the Raptors' roster. I'm positive Dowtin would rather pocket the increased pay that probably comes with a proper NBA contract the rest of the year, vs. being released during training camp next year by a new coach.

Good,point!

I just watching the Celts crushed the Raps

Serves them right for screwing over Jefe

Toronto loses their playoff game to Chicago 109-105. Only 1 total assist from the bench players for Toronto

Nurse is probably gone maybe JD follows him if he lands a new gig

reef wrote: ↑1 year ago Nurse is probably gone maybe JD follows him if he lands a new gig

Toronto fans like Dowtin. Will be interesting to watch what happens. Atlanta upset Miami and will now play the Celtics.

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago

reef wrote: ↑1 year ago Nurse is probably gone maybe JD follows him if he lands a new gig

Toronto fans like Dowtin. Will be interesting to watch what happens. Atlanta upset Miami and will now play the Celtics.

Yes URI sent Trae Young home and I’m hoping the Celtics do the same thing

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Toronto loses their playoff game to Chicago 109-105. Only 1 total assist from the bench players for Toronto

Good.

Nurse fired by Toronto

https://sports.yahoo.com/raptors-report ... 04567.html

My guest Mike Luciano was right on the money with this one.

sbrand wrote: ↑1 year ago My guest Mike Luciano was right on the money with this one.

Will be interesting to see what happens with Dowtin and Toronto with this HC change.
I went back and re-listened to your interview Scott.
Thanks

Yes it is potentially good news but if it wasn’t for this rift JD would have a standard contract and experience playing in the playoffs. Mike Luciano believes JD will have an extended NBA career.

Rumors are Nurse to Houston so if that happens maybe JD can play for the Rockets which should get him lots of playing time since they are so young

Yes Nurse loves Dowtin. He fits the prototype player that Toronto is known for. Off the radar types.

Dowtin is a restricted free agent... he has not departed Toronto. Wonder if the new coaching staff will be interested in retaining him.

Can JD be a 2 way player again or can’t be 2 years in a row ??

It’s a flaw in the CBA. That let the guy go and retain his rights.

I just heard Masai said he is part of the team’s future and he will probably sign a cheap deal that triggers if he makes the opening day roster.

I'm not sure where the idea that they 'let him go' came from. He ran out of eligibility, but he was still with the team, even in the playoffs. He is on their active roster.

reef wrote: ↑1 year ago Can JD be a 2 way player again or can’t be 2 years in a row ??

Unless they recently changed it - a two,way contract is not available for a player who has played parts of 4 seasons in the nba.

Correct , Jeff is no longer eligible for a two way contract next season .

It’s simple. After 50 games he ran out of eligibility but Toronto still had the rights to him. Whether they retain the rights next season is another story.

There was a large contingent including Nick Nurse who wanted Jeff to be offered a standard contract so that he could finish the season and play in the playoffs as well as have a standard contract for next season.

But that did not happen and the team finished the season wo a backup point guard.

If Toronto does not act on their rights next season he becomes a free agent.

He's already a free agent (or will be once the NBA Finals is over). He'll be restricted, however. If they had upgraded him, he would become an unrestricted free agent. Weird rule but I never pretend to understand NBA free agency... by far the most complicated of the four pro sports.

Great news! Let’s go JD!

Now stick to it Toronto.

Jeff Dowtin Jr. Undergoes Offseason Ankle Surgery, Raptors Say
The Toronto Raptors say Jeff Dowtin Jr. has undergone offseason surgery to remove loose bodies from his right ankle
AARON ROSEMAY 16, 2023 6:53 PM EDT

Toronto Raptors
TORONTO RAPTORS
Jeff Dowtin Jr. underwent offseason surgery on his right ankle, the Toronto Raptors announced Tuesday.

The surgery, performed by Dr. Martin O’Malley in New York removed loose bodies from his injured ankle, the team said. Dowtin will rehab his injured foot in Toronto under the medical supervision of the Raptors. He will wear a medical walking boot for approximately two weeks, the team announced.

Dowtin is a restricted free agent this offseason following a stellar season as a two-way player for Toronto. He averaged 2.4 points, 1.2 assists and 10.4 minutes in 25 games this past season.

Toronto opted not to convert Dowtin’s contract before the playoffs despite his value to the rotation. Raptors president and vice chairman Masai Ujiri said the decision came down to Dowtin or Will Barton and Toronto opted for the more experienced Barton.

The Raptors are expected to retain Dowtin for next season though no deal has officially been worked out. He’ll be entering his age 26-season next year in his second season with Toronto.


https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/tor ... le-surgery

DanInAZ wrote: ↑11 months ago

Well at least he has a guaranteed deal for next season.

If another team gives him a better offer, Toronto will need to match it in order to keep him.

I believe NBA teams can rescind Qualifying Offers at any time during the free agency period but Toronto extending a QO does bode well for Dowtin sticking in the league for the short term.

Here is a blurb from The Athletic regarding Dowtin’s QO:

The Raptors extended qualifying offers to last year's two-way signees, Ron Harper Jr. and Jeff Dowtin Jr. They require only qualifying offers of once again making them two-way players — those don't count against the salary cap — so they take up no cap space, or roster spot. They will become restricted free agents, giving the Raptors the right to match any offer sheet they sign.

Would suck if JD is a 2 way again

I think he could be a good fit in the Celts backcourt considering Jeff’s defensive ability and skill set on O plus the Celts payroll limitations under the new CBA.

Of course I am not totally objective in seeing JD bringing value to any team.

Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑11 months ago I think he could be a good fit in the Celts backcourt considering Jeff’s defensive ability and skill set on O plus the Celts payroll limitations under the new CBA.

Of course I am not totally objective in seeing JD bringing value to any team.

I've thought the same thing myself