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Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:41 pm**

Bill Koch answered my question about the years left on the Cox contract in his Projo piece 03/18/22:

The Rams owe Cox a buyout of roughly $1 million and will be negotiating a settlement with his representatives in the coming days. Cox was given a previously undisclosed one-year extension following the 2019-20 campaign and had two years remaining on his existing deal. He finished 64-55 in his four seasons with URI, and that followed a successful four years on staff as an assistant coach and associate head coach under Hurley.

Cox did get an extension after the 2019-20 season which was not made public. Seems it may have been the result of the 20+ win season rather than Covid related as the pandemic was still in its infancy with the extent of the effects that would ravage the nation not yet fully known. Not certain of the $1M figure as the original contract had the buyout at only his roughly $300k base per season after year three was completed. Perhaps some of the bonus was put back in as was the case if terminated before year three.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:26 pm**

RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Bill Koch answered my question about the years left on the Cox contract in his Projo piece 03/18/22:

The Rams owe Cox a buyout of roughly $1 million and will be negotiating a settlement with his representatives in the coming days. Cox was given a previously undisclosed one-year extension following the 2019-20 campaign and had two years remaining on his existing deal. He finished 64-55 in his four seasons with URI, and that followed a successful four years on staff as an assistant coach and associate head coach under Hurley.

Cox did get an extension after the 2019-20 season which was not made public. Seems it may have been the result of the 20+ win season rather than Covid related as the pandemic was still in its infancy with the extent of the effects that would ravage the nation not yet fully known. Not certain of the $1M figure as the original contract had the buyout at only his roughly $300k base per season after year three was completed. Perhaps some of the bonus was put back in as was the case if terminated before year three.

Why was the extension not disclosed? Why wouldn’t that want to be made public so that recruits and transfers would know the length of the HC’s contract?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:27 pm**

RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Bill Koch answered my question about the years left on the Cox contract in his Projo piece 03/18/22:

The Rams owe Cox a buyout of roughly $1 million and will be negotiating a settlement with his representatives in the coming days. Cox was given a previously undisclosed one-year extension following the 2019-20 campaign and had two years remaining on his existing deal. He finished 64-55 in his four seasons with URI, and that followed a successful four years on staff as an assistant coach and associate head coach under Hurley.

Cox did get an extension after the 2019-20 season which was not made public. Seems it may have been the result of the 20+ win season rather than Covid related as the pandemic was still in its infancy with the extent of the effects that would ravage the nation not yet fully known. Not certain of the $1M figure as the original contract had the buyout at only his roughly $300k base per season after year three was completed. Perhaps some of the bonus was put back in as was the case if terminated before year three.

I read that too - it still doesn't explain the #. The extra year means $600K instead of $300K - where is the extra $400K coming from? Unless the buy out isn't just the base salary but also includes other stuff.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:38 pm**

steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years ago I read that too - it still doesn't explain the #. The extra year means $600K instead of $300K - where is the extra $400K coming from? Unless the buy out isn't just the base salary but also includes other stuff.

The buyout prior to termination after year three included some bonus money as well as the guaranteed base salary per the original contract. Only the base salary was to be the buyout if he was let go beyond year three. The only explanation for the $1M amount would be that some bonus money was put back in.

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:45 am**

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:47 am**

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Makes a lot of sense given Cox has very deep roots and connections to the DMV area.

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:48 am**

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Cox recruiting for Maryland in the DMV would be a home run hire for them.

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:29 pm**

Happy for DC! Hope he ends up there or somewhere where his skill set fits. He’s a high quality person and an excellent role model. Please just stay away from the position-less basketball philosophy, coach!

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:35 pm**

Da_Process_Survivor wrote: ↑2 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Cox recruiting for Maryland in the DMV would be a home run hire for them.

Would make me extremely happy for him to land in such a good spot for him. Really would take care of the only hanging emotional thread in this whole saga.

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:32 pm**

Cox to Maryland makes a lot of sense especially as a recruiter

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:54 pm**

Yes, great news if true for David Cox and family! He would excel in that role as he did here under Hurley.

Willard may not want David to handle the timeouts strategy, however.

(I'm dying to hear from Cox his philosophy on The Cox Timeout™)

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:47 pm**

Is Chance good enough to follow Coach Cox to Maryland?

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:36 pm**

Ramulous wrote: ↑2 years ago Is Chance good enough to follow Coach Cox to Maryland?

Only if he likes watching basketball games instead of playing in them

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:05 pm**

That would be a great fit for Dave, gets him closer to home with a solid program and coach.

I have no idea if he would have any interest in going back to Georgetown, but it’s hard to overstate just how poorly Georgetown basketball is being run right now. Unless you are convinced that Ewing can miraculously turn it around, what they’ve done is kept him (after extending him), fired two assistants, and made it very difficult to hire quality guys who know that they may only be there for a year.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:53 pm**

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:11 pm**

Great landing spot for Coach Cox. Very happy for him.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:42 pm**

He should make good money for an assistant there and be close to home. His very strong DMV connections should help Maryland.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:20 pm**

I'm genuinely happy for Coach Cox. Congrats, Coach.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:23 pm**

Good luck to Coach Cox.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:25 pm**

Good for coach Cox! The Maryland program snagged an excellent mentor and a solid recruiter. The fact it didn’t take long to land at a quality program speaks highly of him. Rooting for you, coach!

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:45 pm**

Good call 77 seemed like a good landing spot

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:55 pm**

CamsRams wrote: ↑2 years ago

Hell yeah coach Cox!

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:56 pm**

Congratulations David Cox and Family..........

Get to go back home to Maryland
Starts immediately
Chance to start over in a new environment
Get pay out of $1 million from URI based on contract
Coaching in the Big 10 that just had 9 teams invited to the NCAA Tournament
Lot of pressure off of him and his family
Could build towards being a Head Coach again as many former Head Coaches do - if desired

Best of Luck and Thank You

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:51 pm**

Excellent news. Exactly what he needed. Couldn’t have scripted it any better.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:32 pm**

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years ago
CamsRams wrote: ↑2 years ago
Hell yeah coach Cox!

This is awesome. As repeated many times - he's an asset to any program. Love that he's going up a level and has a chance to go home as well.

So happy for him and the family. Will definitely miss them up here as neighbors.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:39 pm**

It’s a good move for him, but it’s still a little bittersweet. It’s not exactly how he hoped it would all turn out.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:43 pm**

ace wrote: ↑2 years ago It’s a good move for him, but it’s still a little bittersweet. It’s not exactly how he hoped it would all turn out.

I’m sure that he hoped it worked out better here, but a lot of great coaches fail at their first try. I don’t think this is the last we hear of David Cox as a HC.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:11 pm**

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago
ace wrote: ↑2 years ago It’s a good move for him, but it’s still a little bittersweet. It’s not exactly how he hoped it would all turn out.
I’m sure that he hoped it worked out better here, but a lot of great coaches fail at their first try. I don’t think this is the last we hear of David Cox as a HC.

I think we all hoped it would work out better. But him landing on his feet at a great place makes me feel a lot less conflicted.

This no longer feels like bittersweet, just straight up excited for the Archie era!

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:20 pm**

A lot of coaches, in different ways, were victims of the pandemic. I think Cox and Miller are 2 examples

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:38 pm**

Fantastic news!!!

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:40 pm**

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years ago
CamsRams wrote: ↑2 years ago
Hell yeah coach Cox!
This is awesome. As repeated many times - he's an asset to any program. Love that he's going up a level and has a chance to go home as well.

So happy for him and the family. Will definitely miss them up here as neighbors.

And see

We still love him!

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:18 pm**

Curious on his salary does anyone know ??

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:42 pm**

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago
ace wrote: ↑2 years ago It’s a good move for him, but it’s still a little bittersweet. It’s not exactly how he hoped it would all turn out.
I’m sure that he hoped it worked out better here, but a lot of great coaches fail at their first try. I don’t think this is the last we hear of David Cox as a HC.
I think we all hoped it would work out better. But him landing on his feet at a great place makes me feel a lot less conflicted.

This no longer feels like bittersweet, just straight up excited for the Archie era!

Bittersweet for him and the people who really care about him, not fans.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:55 pm**

ace wrote: ↑2 years ago
Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago

I’m sure that he hoped it worked out better here, but a lot of great coaches fail at their first try. I don’t think this is the last we hear of David Cox as a HC.
I think we all hoped it would work out better. But him landing on his feet at a great place makes me feel a lot less conflicted.

This no longer feels like bittersweet, just straight up excited for the Archie era!
Bittersweet for him and the people who really care about him, not fans.

Why can’t I be a fan and also root for the guy to do well, while being conflicted about a really good man losing his job even if it was the right thing to do for the program I root for?

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:58 pm**

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
ace wrote: ↑2 years ago
Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago

I think we all hoped it would work out better. But him landing on his feet at a great place makes me feel a lot less conflicted.

This no longer feels like bittersweet, just straight up excited for the Archie era!
Bittersweet for him and the people who really care about him, not fans.
Why can’t I be a fan and also root for the guy to do well, while being conflicted about a really good man losing his job even if it was the right thing to do for the program I root for?

Don't look now Blue Man, but you pretty much perfectly described bittersweet

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:24 pm**

Ex-URI basketball coach David Cox is back in the game, now an assistant coach at Maryland

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 147927001/

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:34 pm**

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:48 pm**

I think Cox can excel as a P5 assistant especially as a recruiter can make a really nice living without the stress of a head coaching job

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:03 pm**

Good landing spot for him, and not out of work for long.....about a week lol.....

I'm sure it's decent money too.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:25 pm**

rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Good landing spot for him, and not out of work for long.....about a week lol.....

I'm sure it's decent money too.

so, this must save Rhody some or most of the buyout?

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:40 pm**

I don’t know him personally, but Coach Cox always struck me as a man of strong faith. Storms in life don’t sink men of strong faith; storms strengthen their faith and ultimately make them better.

The clouds are fading and the sun is breaking through. Sail on Coach. May the wind always be at your back.

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:20 am**

McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Good landing spot for him, and not out of work for long.....about a week lol.....

I'm sure it's decent money too.

so, this must save Rhody some or most of the buyout?

I don’t think Cox had an offset clause. Maybe RF can check?

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:43 am**

I just reread the termination clauses from the original 2018 contract and there was nothing regarding the buyout being decreased via the offset of compensation in a similar job.

Did notice that the contract did have a buyout if Cox were to terminate it. He would have owed URI $700k if he left in the first three years and $300k after that. This was lower than for Hurley and would be something worth examining when the Miller contract is made public.

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:05 pm**

RF1 can you please post the contract file here for posterity and also the full Termination language?

Hurley’s damages were to be paid in full within 60 days to the amount equal to all remaining base salary through original contract term.

Buyout negotiations right now for Cox are likely working out paying him more than base pay but over a significantly longer multi-year term. That’s gotta be how they get near that $1M number Koch and others are confidently reporting.

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:41 pm**

from ig

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:51 pm**

David Cox 2018 Contract with URI

David Cox-Official Contract-2018.pdf

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:02 pm**

RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago I just reread the termination clauses from the original 2018 contract and there was nothing regarding the buyout being decreased via the offset of compensation in a similar job.

Did notice that the contract did have a buyout if Cox were to terminate it. He would have owed URI $700k if he left in the first three years and $300k after that. This was lower than for Hurley and would be something worth examining when the Miller contract is made public.

URI/Miller contract IS public. I have it and have read it.

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:06 pm**

I doubt any URI players in the portal will be following Cox to Maryland.

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:08 pm**

Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago I doubt any URI players in the portal will be following Cox to Maryland.

Really?

I'm assuming Walker is good as gone. He's from DC, is a Cox guy, and can play his last year for The Terps

Posted: **Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:43 pm**

ace wrote: ↑2 years agofrom ig

This pic is absolutely magnificent

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