Re: The Archie Miller Conspiracy Thread.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:28 pm
Thorr did not interview Tammi Reiss or Dan Hurley in Rhode Island
All starting with rumors the Patriots were getting Larry FitzgeraldBlue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoIt’s a common barstool joke about “player x” being at Logan renting a car.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoMartyf250 has been a poster for 9 years. I looked it up because sometimes we get trolls at times like these. Not many posts over the years but good, reasonable posts.
So I’m going to give benefit of the doubt
Archie could be coming in to interview for UMASS and/or for URI. The timing certainly makes sense.
Cmon friends. Be better.
reef wrote: ↑2 years agoWow if Capel keeps his job they were awful this yearJersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoDoubt it would happen and not sure of the NCAA fall out, but if no further action, Sean Miller may be worth the risk for Maryland.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
I think they'd be more of a spot for Sean.
As much as we view Archie very highly (rightfully so), a lot of P5 teams have questions after Indiana didn't go well.
The fact that Indiana was willing to pay Archie $10M would give a lot of programs pause before the major investment of firing/hiring a coach.
The better news here for us, is that those larger midwest programs that could come open, might target Sean before Archie.
Next year it drops to $5MRF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Capel is not getting fired by Pitt at this time only because he has a contract that runs through 2026-27 with a present buyout amount estimated to be near some $15M.
https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2022/03 ... n-2022-23/
Ok makes sense then for 1 more year but I would guess if they don’t improve much he is gone Pitt has lots of cashJersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoNext year it drops to $5MRF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Capel is not getting fired by Pitt at this time only because he has a contract that runs through 2026-27 with a present buyout amount estimated to be near some $15M.
https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2022/03 ... n-2022-23/
I think if he comes in for an interview that’s a great sign
He’s under qualified for a high end P5 gig? So if a person WAS a coach at Indiana how is that person under qualified?KingstonLane wrote: ↑2 years ago The one thing we have going for us is he likely doesn’t want to sit out another year. He’s “under-qualified” for a high end P6 gig. So his options are something like a Missouri? Or high end mid major, which I would bucket A10 (us) into.
Going to a school like URI definitely gives him an easier chance of success than something like a Missouri having to compete with the best in the country every night.
Because he got fired…?theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoHe’s under qualified for a high end P5 gig? So if a person WAS a coach at Indiana how is that person under qualified?KingstonLane wrote: ↑2 years ago The one thing we have going for us is he likely doesn’t want to sit out another year. He’s “under-qualified” for a high end P6 gig. So his options are something like a Missouri? Or high end mid major, which I would bucket A10 (us) into.
Going to a school like URI definitely gives him an easier chance of success than something like a Missouri having to compete with the best in the country every night.
Under qualified probably not the right term, but he failed at Indiana. Safe to assume then he needs to succeed at a lower level job in order to get another P6 jobtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoHe’s under qualified for a high end P5 gig? So if a person WAS a coach at Indiana how is that person under qualified?KingstonLane wrote: ↑2 years ago The one thing we have going for us is he likely doesn’t want to sit out another year. He’s “under-qualified” for a high end P6 gig. So his options are something like a Missouri? Or high end mid major, which I would bucket A10 (us) into.
Going to a school like URI definitely gives him an easier chance of success than something like a Missouri having to compete with the best in the country every night.
So what’s the term? What do we call a P5 coach who gets fired? A mid major coach?RoadyJay wrote: ↑2 years agoUnder qualified probably not the right term, but he failed at Indiana. Safe to assume then he needs to succeed at a lower level job in order to get another P6 jobtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoHe’s under qualified for a high end P5 gig? So if a person WAS a coach at Indiana how is that person under qualified?KingstonLane wrote: ↑2 years ago The one thing we have going for us is he likely doesn’t want to sit out another year. He’s “under-qualified” for a high end P6 gig. So his options are something like a Missouri? Or high end mid major, which I would bucket A10 (us) into.
Going to a school like URI definitely gives him an easier chance of success than something like a Missouri having to compete with the best in the country every night.
We could invent one. Let’s call them “Rick Pitinos” or maybe “Travis Fords”?theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoSo what’s the term? What do we call a P5 coach who gets fired? A mid major coach?RoadyJay wrote: ↑2 years agoUnder qualified probably not the right term, but he failed at Indiana. Safe to assume then he needs to succeed at a lower level job in order to get another P6 jobtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
He’s under qualified for a high end P5 gig? So if a person WAS a coach at Indiana how is that person under qualified?
Pretty much. At least until they prove themselves again. I’m not sure what part of this you’re not understandingtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoSo what’s the term? What do we call a P5 coach who gets fired? A mid major coach?RoadyJay wrote: ↑2 years agoUnder qualified probably not the right term, but he failed at Indiana. Safe to assume then he needs to succeed at a lower level job in order to get another P6 jobtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
He’s under qualified for a high end P5 gig? So if a person WAS a coach at Indiana how is that person under qualified?
Why is everyone worrying ?
LSU being open now could be a factor.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
Keep in mind his wife's family has a place in the Outer Banks - so they definitely like the water but it's not like it'll "wow" them being here.
Also, their daughter is going to LSU for gymnastics. So I bet Tom Ryan would need to throw in a "private jet for Morgan Miller to go see her daughter's meets" offer in the contract.
Would Archie want to deal with the fallout from the hammer the NCAA is going to drop on LSU? Those reports show a tremendous number of level 1 violations.daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑2 years agoLSU being open now could be a factor.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
Keep in mind his wife's family has a place in the Outer Banks - so they definitely like the water but it's not like it'll "wow" them being here.
Also, their daughter is going to LSU for gymnastics. So I bet Tom Ryan would need to throw in a "private jet for Morgan Miller to go see her daughter's meets" offer in the contract.
Hmmm I forgot his daughter goes to LSU that’s definitely concerningRhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years agoWould Archie want to deal with the fallout from the hammer the NCAA is going to drop on LSU? Those reports show a tremendous number of level 1 violations.daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑2 years agoLSU being open now could be a factor.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
Keep in mind his wife's family has a place in the Outer Banks - so they definitely like the water but it's not like it'll "wow" them being here.
Also, their daughter is going to LSU for gymnastics. So I bet Tom Ryan would need to throw in a "private jet for Morgan Miller to go see her daughter's meets" offer in the contract.
Yes Blue Man, a Chris Mack hire would be a homerun for us.
You “guess” he would be better?luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
Yeah, you’re right. Who wants a coach who has made 9 tournaments in 13 years including 4 sweet sixteens and an elite eight.luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
If we got Mack tickets at the Ryan Center might become scarce.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoYou “guess” he would be better?luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
Fwiw Mack is supposedly a major d-bag. Doesn’t necessarily matter when you win like he did but there are a lot of people who don’t like him.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoYou “guess” he would be better?luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
And your point is? So we only hire boy scouts?bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoFwiw Mack is supposedly a major d-bag. Doesn’t necessarily matter when you win like he did but there are a lot of people who don’t like him.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoYou “guess” he would be better?luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
I got a refund this year on my season tix. If Mack became coach, I would triple my season tix.DeanDome88 wrote: ↑2 years agoIf we got Mack tickets at the Ryan Center might become scarce.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoYou “guess” he would be better?luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
Just relaying info on his reputation. Nothing more. He’s still a helluva basketball coach. Jim Harrick wasn’t a Boy Scout but he also wasn’t a d-bag.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoAnd your point is? So we only hire boy scouts?bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoFwiw Mack is supposedly a major d-bag. Doesn’t necessarily matter when you win like he did but there are a lot of people who don’t like him.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
You “guess” he would be better?
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
I was thinking Jay Wright ..But way too dapper and too classy of a guy must be something up with himtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoI got a refund this year on my season tix. If Mack became coach, I would triple my season tix.DeanDome88 wrote: ↑2 years agoIf we got Mack tickets at the Ryan Center might become scarce.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
You “guess” he would be better?
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
and Gio you didn't even account for our Holier than thou crew that come out of the woodwork!giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoI was thinking Jay Wright ..But way too dapper and too classy of a guy must be something up with himtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoI got a refund this year on my season tix. If Mack became coach, I would triple my season tix.
Mark Few.... West Coast guy not sure if he could recruit in the Atlantic 10
Scott Drew...looked Good at first for us . But at further look he had a speeding ticket in 1999 and questioned the cop as to why he got it, d bag
Chris Beard... Left a Texas school for another Texas school got to be an idiot
John Beilein too old
Tommy Lloyd not enough experience
Greg Popivich never coached in college before
Matt Painter. Never made a final 4
John Calipari... Well we know he looks like a veteran car salesman
Coach K. Maybe we can ask the booster to step up and get him out of retirement
Maybe URI ,or at least the fans should ease up on the requirements and their personal assessments
BAR actually a good percentage of the Louisville fans are d-bags.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoJust relaying info on his reputation. Nothing more. He’s still a helluva basketball coach. Jim Harrick wasn’t a Boy Scout but he also wasn’t a d-bag.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoAnd your point is? So we only hire boy scouts?bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago
Fwiw Mack is supposedly a major d-bag. Doesn’t necessarily matter when you win like he did but there are a lot of people who don’t like him.
Not me Gio. Never. NCAA or Bust. I don't live my life half assed. It's all or nothing. Don't let my high expectations dampen fan support. I'm just a fan of URI basketball.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoI was thinking Jay Wright ..But way too dapper and too classy of a guy must be something up with himtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoI got a refund this year on my season tix. If Mack became coach, I would triple my season tix.
Mark Few.... West Coast guy not sure if he could recruit in the Atlantic 10
Scott Drew...looked Good at first for us . But at further look he had a speeding ticket in 1999 and questioned the cop as to why he got it, d bag
Chris Beard... Left a Texas school for another Texas school got to be an idiot
John Beilein too old
Tommy Lloyd not enough experience
Greg Popivich never coached in college before
Matt Painter. Never made a final 4
John Calipari... Well we know he looks like a veteran car salesman
Coach K. Maybe we can ask the booster to step up and get him out of retirement
Maybe URI ,or at least the fans should ease up on the requirements and their personal assessments
No easing off on the requirements. NCAA or Bust.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoNot me Gio. Never. NCAA or Bust. I don't live my life half assed. It's all or nothing. Don't let my high expectations dampen fan support. I'm just a fan of URI basketball.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoI was thinking Jay Wright ..But way too dapper and too classy of a guy must be something up with himtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
I got a refund this year on my season tix. If Mack became coach, I would triple my season tix.
Mark Few.... West Coast guy not sure if he could recruit in the Atlantic 10
Scott Drew...looked Good at first for us . But at further look he had a speeding ticket in 1999 and questioned the cop as to why he got it, d bag
Chris Beard... Left a Texas school for another Texas school got to be an idiot
John Beilein too old
Tommy Lloyd not enough experience
Greg Popivich never coached in college before
Matt Painter. Never made a final 4
John Calipari... Well we know he looks like a veteran car salesman
Coach K. Maybe we can ask the booster to step up and get him out of retirement
Maybe URI ,or at least the fans should ease up on the requirements and their personal assessments
What a post, what a post.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoI was thinking Jay Wright ..But way too dapper and too classy of a guy must be something up with himtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoI got a refund this year on my season tix. If Mack became coach, I would triple my season tix.
Mark Few.... West Coast guy not sure if he could recruit in the Atlantic 10
Scott Drew...looked Good at first for us . But at further look he had a speeding ticket in 1999 and questioned the cop as to why he got it, d bag
Chris Beard... Left a Texas school for another Texas school got to be an idiot
John Beilein too old
Tommy Lloyd not enough experience
Greg Popivich never coached in college before
Matt Painter. Never made a final 4
John Calipari... Well we know he looks like a veteran car salesman
Coach K. Maybe we can ask the booster to step up and get him out of retirement
Maybe URI ,or at least the fans should ease up on the requirements and their personal assessments
Yep. Lower those expectations. Don’t want anybody thinking big.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agoWhat a post, what a post.giovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoI was thinking Jay Wright ..But way too dapper and too classy of a guy must be something up with himtheblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
I got a refund this year on my season tix. If Mack became coach, I would triple my season tix.
Mark Few.... West Coast guy not sure if he could recruit in the Atlantic 10
Scott Drew...looked Good at first for us . But at further look he had a speeding ticket in 1999 and questioned the cop as to why he got it, d bag
Chris Beard... Left a Texas school for another Texas school got to be an idiot
John Beilein too old
Tommy Lloyd not enough experience
Greg Popivich never coached in college before
Matt Painter. Never made a final 4
John Calipari... Well we know he looks like a veteran car salesman
Coach K. Maybe we can ask the booster to step up and get him out of retirement
Maybe URI ,or at least the fans should ease up on the requirements and their personal assessments
Bravo!
What was the Dino Gaudio situation regarding Mack ??Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoYou “guess” he would be better?luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
www.si.com/.amp/college/2021/08/27/loui ... -extortionreef wrote: ↑2 years agoWhat was the Dino Gaudio situation regarding Mack ??Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoYou “guess” he would be better?luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Not a huge fan of Mack . he is another coach who let his players dictate kind of like Cox . But I guess he would be better than some of the underwhelming choices being mentioned that have only coached at lower level programs and would offer a very high risk to reward potential as
a result.
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
Wow juicy stuff , they go way back to being assistants at Xavier tooBlue Man wrote: ↑2 years agowww.si.com/.amp/college/2021/08/27/loui ... -extortionreef wrote: ↑2 years agoWhat was the Dino Gaudio situation regarding Mack ??Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
You “guess” he would be better?
Literally the reason I latched on to the Miller conspiracy is because I thought that would be the best we could realistically do. That Mack would be way above us.
A-10 conference title. A-10 COY. Big East conference title. Big East coy.
4 sweet 16’s and an elite 8. 9 NCAA births - 10 if not for Covid.
I guess the Dino Gaudio situation made some problems for him down there and that’s why the resignation.
Make no mistake. This would be a near-Harrick level hire.
You’re a dunce if you think any less.
luke wrote: ↑2 years ago Chris Mack was an assistant under Sean Miller. Thad Matta had already built Xavier into a National power and Sean Miller took over from Matta and
continued the rise of the program . Chris Mack inherited an established program from Miller . Miller had won 3 A 10 titles and had 4 NCAA appearances before moving to Arizona . Mack was able to continue the program forward though his team in the middle of his coaching run was involved in a brawl with Cincinnati and he lost control of his players who instigated the brawl . Some of his players acted like thugs during games with Cincy and Dayton ( There
was also a pregame on court mini brawl prior to the start of a game with Dayton also instigated by Xavier ) .Mack made no attempt to control their thuggish behavior . I would attribute Much of Mack's success to the standing and culture at Xavier established by Matta and Sean Miller . Mack
probably deserves some credit for keeping things going as well as they did , IMO the recruiting pipelines were already in place for him and the talent
level of the players was optimal . Would I consider him a good candidate for URI ? Sure . I don't think he would achieve the same level of success
that he did at Xavier , however. He would be an upgrade I would agree , however i would prefer Archie or Sean Miller or Dan or Bobby Hurley who
were able to bring a high level of success to struggling programs at Dayton, URI and Buffalo respectively . Chris Mack was never placed in such a
position so I am not certain he would have done as well under the same circumstances . But , given the other names mentioned other than the Millers
and the Hurleys I would have to agree that he would probably be the best choice that I am aware of at the moment . When I said I wasn't a fan of Mack
it has a lot to do with the brawling incidents I have mentioned which I personally witnessed . It left a bad impression on me concerning Mack . He had a
very talented team which I thought was able to overcome some of his flaws as a coach . bu in the end he has been very successful and so he would have to go to the top of the list for me just under Archie and Bobby . If you think he would be better than Archie or Bobby , Blueman , you could certainly
make a strong argument for Chris Mack and I wouldn't strongly disagree with you. I hope this clarifies my thinking on Mack .