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Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:40 pm
by PeteRI
PCFriars wrote: 2 years ago
steveystuds06 wrote: 2 years ago Jeff is a 24-year-old guard. Unfortunately, many teams will want the 19-20-year-old kids who they think may have more potential. A good friend of mine played at a Big10 school and was the Gleague MVP. He would put up monster numbers and still could barely get on an NBA roster. He ended up making a lot of money playing all around the world... Xavier Munford is another example.

I don't like Jeff's chances of getting minutes for the Magic. They have Suggs, Cole Anthony, T Ross, Gary Harris, RJ Hampton, and Fultz will be back at some point. There are reports that Harris and Ross are on the block, so I think Jeff could find some minutes if Magic traded them.

I would love to see Jeff in the NBA, but I think he can make some good money overseas.
Age is the problem. Teams want guys who have room to grow rather than what they perceive as finished products. Same thing plagued Bryce Cotton, who decided he’d be better off overseas. He got a quick look in the NBA and did very well in his opportunity, but didn’t stick. He’s been league MVP in Australia 3 years in a row I think and has made a ton of money. Dowtin could follow a similar path.
Thanks for introducing him to me. Never heard of him before but that's my fault, not his. Jeff would be in great company if he had a similar career. Here's a terrific article on Bryce:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball ... f1552097ab

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:40 pm
by reef
Keep the hope alive Jefe good chance he gets a roster spot next year

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:10 pm
by LoveThoseRams
Jeff just got the call up to the Magic on a 10 Day! Go Jeff...make us proud!

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:14 pm
by adam914

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:15 pm
by Rhodymob05
About damn time.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:56 pm
by Jdrums#3
I’ve had the time to watch some of his games this year and the clips some of you have posted. Damn, he is good! And, he was good when he was here.

He is worthy of a full time roster spot in the NBA! His shot looks great, his handle is confident, his court vision is pro level, his basket ball IQ is excellent. Plus, he has a great attitude. If I was an NBA GM or coach, heck yea, he would be on my team in a
NY minute! I don’t care how long he has been out of college. He works his ass off; He’s a winner!

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:30 pm
by reef
Really good news hope he gets some run

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:45 pm
by ATPTourFan
Finally, a reason for me to watch the NBA. Go Jeff!!

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:55 pm
by ramster
Golden State @ Orlando tonight @ 7pm

Magic upset Golden State tonight. Jeff was DNP but hopefully next game.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:22 pm
by Sox1
Has anyone been watching magic games this past week? Im curious to know how his game is translating compared to the box score. Looks like hes done pretty well offensively but has a really horrific +/-. Anyone know if thats due to his defensive abilities in the NBA or just the magic being magic?

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:57 pm
by reef
Sox1 wrote: 2 years ago Has anyone been watching magic games this past week? Im curious to know how his game is translating compared to the box score. Looks like hes done pretty well offensively but has a really horrific +/-. Anyone know if thats due to his defensive abilities in the NBA or just the magic being magic?
I’ve seen bits and pieces , looks like he’s getting minutes at least

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:14 pm
by DevRam
Has struggled a bit offensively in the first few games but the one last night vs Cleveland was probably his best overall besides the +/- Good sign tho that a few games in he’s performed better. I think you could expect him to start in one of the Magics final games too so they can really see what he can do. Hope he can really show out and set up a contract for next year somewhere.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:39 pm
by LIRAM
Jeff's +/- has more to do with how bad the Orlando bench/second unit is. The last few games that entire group has gotten smoked. They all have similar plus/minus numbers.

So incredibly awesome that Jeff has worked himself into this opportunity. Love seeing his name in the box score!

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:06 pm
by Rhody15
Munford, Terrell, Dowtin.

Creating a nice little tradition of sending our guards to the league, albeit for short stints.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:11 pm
by SmartyBarrett
LIRAM wrote: 2 years ago Jeff's +/- has more to do with how bad the Orlando bench/second unit is. The last few games that entire group has gotten smoked. They all have similar plus/minus numbers.
Yep, plus the Magic are in full tank mode. The guys that Jeff is usually on the floor with are... not great, to be nice.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:32 pm
by reef
Not a great year to tank last years draft was much better at the top

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:14 am
by Rhody15
reef wrote: 2 years ago Not a great year to tank last years draft was much better at the top
Not really.

Paulo, Chet, Jabari Smith, Jaden Ivy are very, very comparable to Cade, Mobley, Green, and Barnes.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:42 pm
by RhodyKyle
Rhody15 wrote: 2 years ago
reef wrote: 2 years ago Not a great year to tank last years draft was much better at the top
Not really.

Paulo, Chet, Jabari Smith, Jaden Ivy are very, very comparable to Cade, Mobley, Green, and Barnes.
And I love the games of Keegan Murray and Jalen Duren

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:50 am
by ramster
Jeff playing for Toronto this summer


Jeff Dowtin

A shiny Canadian quarter in donations for every time “senior” is mentioned in this piece. Yes folks, it’s another one. Jeff spent the 2021 preseason with the Orlando Magic, and the 2020-21 season with the Lakeland Magic of the NBA G League. After a 2021 Summer League with Golden State, he then had his contract converted into a Two-Way deal with the Warriors during the 2021-22 season.

Dowtin was originally projected as a 2nd rounder by many draft outlets but went undrafted in the 2020 NBA Draft. In his four years at Rhode Island, Dowtin led his team to two NCAA Tournament appearances. He’s a skilled, athletic playmaker who doesn’t necessarily “wow” you in any specific skill of his game. He does everything you need a point guard to do at an adequate level. Problem is, when you make it this far as a professional basketball player — you usually need something to stand out. And if you’re like most NBA backup point guards, you better be damn good at everything just to stick.


https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2022/07 ... -know/amp/

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:34 pm
by Jdrums#3
Thank for the posting, Ramster.

You know what skill Jeff has that is outstanding and makes him stand out? He is a winner.

Happy to see Toronto is giving him a shot.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:32 pm
by PlayMikeMotenMore
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago Thank for the posting, Ramster.

You know what skill Jeff has that is outstanding and makes him stand out? He is a winner.

Happy to see Toronto is giving him a shot.
The second skill...he is a leader. (You get that by playing 4 years in college and playing.)

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:53 am
by ramster
PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: 1 year ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago Thank for the posting, Ramster.

You know what skill Jeff has that is outstanding and makes him stand out? He is a winner.

Happy to see Toronto is giving him a shot.
The second skill...he is a leader. (You get that by playing 4 years in college and playing.)
Actually Jeff was a leader his Freshman year when he took over the starting PG spot and led URI to the NCAA tournament. He was outstanding as a leader as. Sophomore again leading URI to the NCAA Tourney.

A shame his leadership skills as a PG were not maximized his JR and SR years as PG as Cox moved him to wing in favor of Russell.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:48 am
by RJRam
Third skill? Smart!. Always looked like he was playing chess. Probing defenses and taking whatever they were giving.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:18 am
by rhodylocal

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:17 pm
by steveystuds06
I'm lost on how this kid is not on an NBA roster. I've watched almost every summer league game and he's one of the most poised guards on any roster. Give him a shot!!!

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:14 pm
by steveystuds06
Hes' on NBA TV right now. By far the smartest player on the floor.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:57 pm
by Ramfan22
Dowtin’s stats against the bulls:

26 minutes
16 points
7/11 FG
2/4 from 3
3 rebounds
2 assists

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:25 pm
by steveystuds06
Ramfan22 wrote: 1 year ago Dowtin’s stats against the bulls:

26 minutes
16 points
7/11 FG
2/4 from 3
3 rebounds
2 assists
He should have had a lot more assists. He had a bunch of great passes and his teammates blew some layups or got fouled.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:37 pm
by SmartyBarrett
steveystuds06 wrote: 1 year ago Hes' on NBA TV right now. By far the smartest player on the floor.
He's trying to orchestrate and run things out there and a lot of times his teammates aren't listening to him. I get it - it's Summer League and everyone's trying to get theirs. But that floor general-type stuff is probably impressing scouts.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:03 am
by CamsRams

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:21 am
by ATPTourFan

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:42 pm
by LoveThoseRams
C'mon man! Somebody has to sign him!!!

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:43 pm
by Rhodymob05
Raptors fans really want him too.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:37 am
by Ramfan22
Dowtin against the Heat:

16 points
8 rebounds
5 assists
2 steals

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:26 pm
by Ramfan22
Jeff not starting for the Raptors today along with Banton, Brooks, and Wilson. Looks like they got everything they wanted to see from him. I’d expect some news soon, Raptors need a backup PG and Jeff would be perfect for them.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:25 pm
by CamsRams

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:26 pm
by CamsRams
ESPN+

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:34 pm
by steveystuds06


Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:36 pm
by Rhodymob05
Thats great, but I feel like he should be on an nba roster all season. Most of his time is still in G league right?

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:45 pm
by Rhody74
Better than nothing I suppose. He works so hard and all he does is produce. I hope he gets a chance to show what he really can do.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:12 pm
by SmartyBarrett
Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 year ago Thats great, but I feel like he should be on an nba roster all season. Most of his time is still in G league right?
They expanded two-way contracts either last year or the year before. Two-way players can be on the NBA roster and eligible to play in 50 of a team's 82 games.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:14 pm
by adam914
Still kind of wish it was a regular contract, but I just hope he gets a legit shot to show what he can do either way.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:47 pm
by steveystuds06
I’m not sure if he’ll ever get a legit shot. But the Raptors are young and needed a guard, so this will be his best chance to prove he can play in the NBA.

It’s tough for a point guard to get a contract and not have a three-point shot, and unfortunately, Jeff still doesn’t have that type of range. He’s also an older player.

All I know is I am now a Raptors fan.

Let's go Jeff!!!

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:17 pm
by LoveThoseRams
Is there any truth that the 2022 Two-way contracts are $502K now, half the NBA minimum salary?

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:18 pm
by DanInAZ

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:27 pm
by KevanBoyles
Yes, flat salary at $508,891.00.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:14 pm
by Jersey77
DanInAZ wrote: 1 year ago https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/202 ... ranchises.

Regarding two-way contracts.
Jeff is in good company alongside Ron Harper Jr on a two-way contract with Toronto.
Harper (SF) was Rutger's top player last season 16 pts/ 40% (3pt)/ 6 rebs.

Also, I see Vince Williams Jr signed a two-way contract with the Grizzlies.
He was the top player for VCU and 1st team All-A10 last season.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:48 pm
by 4Diffs
From an article in the Athletic written by John Hollinger about summer league stand outs and duds. Jeff getting some love which is very cool. Toronto is a very well run organization think it will work out well for him.

Finally, the best part of any summer league is when players blast out from anonymity with eye-catching performances. A few undrafted and largely unknown players made themselves known these past two weeks. Regardless of whether it turns out to be 15 minutes of fame or the start of a 15-year career, we should acknowledge them. Keep an eye on these players in training camp and preseason:

Jeff Dowtin, Toronto: A 6-3 guard for Rhode Island who had cups of coffee with a few teams last season, Dowtin showed notable improvement. He went from a blah G-League player in 2020-21 to one of the G-League’s stars in 2021-22 and had a dominant four-game run for the Raptors in Vegas that should earn him a contract somewhere. Highlights included 17 assists against just two turnovers and 67.1 percent true shooting; the visual is that there is enough slippery quickness to offset the fact that he’s a bit caught between the two guard positions.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:02 am
by Blue Man
4Diffs wrote: 1 year ago From an article in the Athletic written by John Hollinger about summer league stand outs and duds. Jeff getting some love which is very cool. Toronto is a very well run organization think it will work out well for him.

Finally, the best part of any summer league is when players blast out from anonymity with eye-catching performances. A few undrafted and largely unknown players made themselves known these past two weeks. Regardless of whether it turns out to be 15 minutes of fame or the start of a 15-year career, we should acknowledge them. Keep an eye on these players in training camp and preseason:

Jeff Dowtin, Toronto: A 6-3 guard for Rhode Island who had cups of coffee with a few teams last season, Dowtin showed notable improvement. He went from a blah G-League player in 2020-21 to one of the G-League’s stars in 2021-22 and had a dominant four-game run for the Raptors in Vegas that should earn him a contract somewhere. Highlights included 17 assists against just two turnovers and 67.1 percent true shooting; the visual is that there is enough slippery quickness to offset the fact that he’s a bit caught between the two guard positions.
So happy for him. One of the absolute best kids - attitude, person, basketball floor general - to ever come through this program. Easiest kid to root for. Stuck it out through another coach - one who moved him out of his position, a position he'll be playing in the NBA, in favor of a kid who's playing in montenegro.

Great family. Great kid. Great Ram.

Now PLEASE Toronto. Bring back the '99 raptors jersey so I can buy a JD one.

Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:45 pm
by RhowdyRam02
Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago
4Diffs wrote: 1 year ago From an article in the Athletic written by John Hollinger about summer league stand outs and duds. Jeff getting some love which is very cool. Toronto is a very well run organization think it will work out well for him.

Finally, the best part of any summer league is when players blast out from anonymity with eye-catching performances. A few undrafted and largely unknown players made themselves known these past two weeks. Regardless of whether it turns out to be 15 minutes of fame or the start of a 15-year career, we should acknowledge them. Keep an eye on these players in training camp and preseason:

Jeff Dowtin, Toronto: A 6-3 guard for Rhode Island who had cups of coffee with a few teams last season, Dowtin showed notable improvement. He went from a blah G-League player in 2020-21 to one of the G-League’s stars in 2021-22 and had a dominant four-game run for the Raptors in Vegas that should earn him a contract somewhere. Highlights included 17 assists against just two turnovers and 67.1 percent true shooting; the visual is that there is enough slippery quickness to offset the fact that he’s a bit caught between the two guard positions.
So happy for him. One of the absolute best kids - attitude, person, basketball floor general - to ever come through this program. Easiest kid to root for. Stuck it out through another coach - one who moved him out of his position, a position he'll be playing in the NBA, in favor of a kid who's playing in montenegro.

Great family. Great kid. Great Ram.

Now PLEASE Toronto. Bring back the '99 raptors jersey so I can buy a JD one.
One of my regrets is not getting a Prince themed Terrell jersey. I won't be making the same mistake if the Raptors bring back that jersey