KeaneyBlue - The URI Basketball Forum

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:50 am**

Sure but with teams reducing their OOC schedule, they are more likely to be risk averse, meaning less likely to take risks on series. “They may be good for two years” is likely not an adequate threshold.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:15 am**

It boils down to this....

Mid majors have to take advantage and WIN at least some of their very few opportunities in the OOC part of their schedules, since their leagues usually doesn't offer many chances to win Q1 or Q2 games.

That's the way it is, and it will become even more important in the future. Games against P5's are getting harder and harder to get.

With 20 game leagues schedules you only get 11 OOC games tops, and usually 3 or 4 of them are within a holiday tourney.

In URI's case they get 2 games within that tourney with a chance for a good win.

So for the other 7 or 8 OOC games that are left, URI might get 2 or 3 tops that are against better teams.

Have to win some of those...and then not screw up too often against the bottom feeders of their league.

Just no margin for error anymore....that's life for schools like URI.

One thing's for sure...It doesn't help our OOC home schedule since nobody good will play us here....and the resulting poor attendance that results from that.

We're not Dayton or VCU when it comes to our fan base either.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:51 am**

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Two road games for one neutral site game against Virginia Tech, or a school of their caliber is a horrible deal. This isn't Duke or Kentucky we're talking about

No, not a bad deal at all IMO, you should take that deal, I would take that deal.

I have been to Blacksburg once, pretty area and pretty campus. Drove up to the mountaintop resort where part of the movie Dirty Dancing was filmed.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:54 am**

rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago It boils down to this....

Mid majors have to take advantage and WIN at least some of their very few opportunities in the OOC part of their schedules, since their leagues usually doesn't offer many chances to win Q1 or Q2 games.

That's the way it is, and it will become even more important in the future. Games against P5's are getting harder and harder to get.

With 20 game leagues schedules you only get 11 OOC games tops, and usually 3 or 4 of them are within a holiday tourney.

In URI's case they get 2 games within that tourney with a chance for a good win.

So for the other 7 or 8 OOC games that are left, URI might get 2 or 3 tops that are against better teams.

Have to win some of those...and then not screw up too often against the bottom feeders of their league.

Just no margin for error anymore....that's life for schools like URI.

One thing's for sure...It doesn't help our OOC home schedule since nobody good will play us here....and the resulting poor attendance that results from that.

We're not Dayton or VCU when it comes to our fan base either.

You guys have done a better job scheduling, at least recently, than we have imo. I wish we were more aggressive with scheduling like you guys are.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:55 am**

KevanBoyles wrote: ↑4 years ago Is the Mohegan Sun in what would be considered the NY media market!

No it’s in the small New London-Norwich market. New York doesn’t care about anything east of Fairfield.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:56 am**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Two road games for one neutral site game against Virginia Tech, or a school of their caliber is a horrible deal. This isn't Duke or Kentucky we're talking about
No, not a bad deal at all IMO, you should take that deal, I would take that deal.

I have been to Blacksburg once, pretty area and pretty campus. Drove up to the mountaintop resort where part of the movie Dirty Dancing was filmed.

It really does us little good. They aren’t that great a program to give two road games and get a neutral court game. Better off playing a good mid major with home and home. One road game for the Mohegan is fine.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:16 pm**

I hate to say it, but we might have to take it on the chin when it comes to playing P5's.

If we're going to get games with the bigger programs, the road will be where it's at.

We will have to adopt the Temple model when Chaney was there.

Not by choice like he did, but by necessity.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:41 pm**

You guys, for the last 2 years, have been willing to play 15 road/neutral games. A lot of the good non-p5 schools, except us, have done this: RI, Davidson, VCU, Butler(pre-BE and while in the BE), Xavier(pre-BE and while in the BE), Gonzaga, New Mexico, BYU, Temple, Nevada, Wichita State, and probably others.

In our entire history, we have never done that, sadly, all we really care about is making money off of our home games.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:47 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago It really does us little good. They aren’t that great a program to give two road games and get a neutral court game. Better off playing a good mid major with home and home. One road game for the Mohegan is fine.

??? VT has gone to the NCAAT 3 out of the last 4 years.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:06 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago It really does us little good. They aren’t that great a program to give two road games and get a neutral court game. Better off playing a good mid major with home and home. One road game for the Mohegan is fine.
??? VT has gone to the NCAAT 3 out of the last 4 years.

This does URI no good. We can play Duke, Kentucky or whatever team we want if we are going to their place for two road games with nothing in return. The Mohegan has teams that play here every year that are as good as Virginia Tech without offering two road games in return

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:08 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago It really does us little good. They aren’t that great a program to give two road games and get a neutral court game. Better off playing a good mid major with home and home. One road game for the Mohegan is fine.
??? VT has gone to the NCAAT 3 out of the last 4 years.

They were 16-16 this year. Not an NCAA team to me this year. Up and down

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:08 pm**

Rhody74 wrote: ↑4 years ago
KevanBoyles wrote: ↑4 years ago Is the Mohegan Sun in what would be considered the NY media market!
No it’s in the small New London-Norwich market. New York doesn’t care about anything east of Fairfield.

What about UConn games being on SKY TV from Storrs and Hartford?

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:13 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
This does URI no good. We can play Duke, Kentucky or whatever team we want if we are going to their place for two road games with nothing in return. The Mohegan has teams that play here every year that are as good as Virginia Tech without offering two road games in return

How many times have you guys played at Mohegan and who have been the opponents? Can you get Mohegan every single year?

Sorry, but you guys can not get a neutral game with Duke, UK, or whoever you want in exchange for 2 road games. Not gonna happen.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:28 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago It really does us little good. They aren’t that great a program to give two road games and get a neutral court game. Better off playing a good mid major with home and home. One road game for the Mohegan is fine.
??? VT has gone to the NCAAT 3 out of the last 4 years.
They were 16-16 this year. Not an NCAA team to me this year. Up and down

Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:35 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

??? VT has gone to the NCAAT 3 out of the last 4 years.
They were 16-16 this year. Not an NCAA team to me this year. Up and down
Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.

Alabama - just did it
Nebraska

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:38 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Two road games for one neutral site game against Virginia Tech, or a school of their caliber is a horrible deal. This isn't Duke or Kentucky we're talking about
No, not a bad deal at all IMO, you should take that deal, I would take that deal.

I have been to Blacksburg once, pretty area and pretty campus. Drove up to the mountaintop resort where part of the movie Dirty Dancing was filmed.

We should take as many of those type deals as we can get. Win some and it could be a key rep-builder. Waiting for these schools to come to Kingstown 1 for 1, is getting us nowhere except waiting for _______ . Stop giving the 2 for 1 offers the Heisman - take some and win some, and we'll be in a much better spot.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:40 pm**

Mohegan games (some are Hall of Fame games) Duke, Seton Hall, West Virginia, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:41 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

??? VT has gone to the NCAAT 3 out of the last 4 years.
They were 16-16 this year. Not an NCAA team to me this year. Up and down
Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.

I would start with Home and homes with these teams: I would rather schedule some of these and than try to either get 2 for 1”s or tournaments. Why cater to the power with a team like Virginia Tech that does nothing to help us

Western Kentucky
Belmont
Murray state
Easy Tennessee State
Furman
Unc Greensboro
Stephen Austin
St. Mary’s
BYU
New Mexico State
Wichita State
Houston
SMU
Vermont
Harvard

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:43 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
They were 16-16 this year. Not an NCAA team to me this year. Up and down
Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.
I would start with Home and homes with these teams: I would rather schedule some of these and than try to either get 2 for 1”s or tournaments. Why cater to the power with a team like Virginia Tech that does nothing to help us

Western Kentucky
Belmont
Murray state
Easy Tennessee State
Furman
Unc Greensboro
Stephen Austin
St. Mary’s
BYU
New Mexico State
Wichita State
Houston
SMU
Vermont
Harvard

When was the last time a win over Va Tech would NOT have "helped us"? How many times in the last 10 years would such a win not have helped us? (Channels Ramster...)

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:43 pm**

ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
They were 16-16 this year. Not an NCAA team to me this year. Up and down
Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.
Alabama - just did it
Nebraska

Yeah, but you are not getting those type of series every single year...you are moving the goalposts.

If you get a VT-type offer, you should take it every single time...stop saying no...quit forcing the p5 to bend to your will, the p5 does not need you, but you need them.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:45 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.
Alabama - just did it
Nebraska
Yeah, but you are not getting those type of series every single year...you are moving the goalposts.

If you get a VT-type offer, you should take it every single time.

F* VT. A10 defector.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:47 pm**

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.
I would start with Home and homes with these teams: I would rather schedule some of these and than try to either get 2 for 1”s or tournaments. Why cater to the power with a team like Virginia Tech that does nothing to help us

Western Kentucky
Belmont
Murray state
Easy Tennessee State
Furman guy
Unc Greensboro
Stephen Austin
St. Mary’s
BYU
New Mexico State
Wichita State
Houston
SMU
Vermont
Harvard
When was the last time a win over Va Tech would NOT have "helped us"? How many times in the last 10 years would such a win not have helped us? (Channels Ramster...)

Let’s see-this year! They were 16-16 and there would have been a good chance that we lost on the road just like a-10 road games are tough. If we won it wouldn’t have helped us. I’m sure the fraud net ranking is the next thing I will hear. No one reason to do two road games to Virginia Tech for a neutral game at Mohegan. Better teams have come with one or none

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:49 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.
Alabama - just did it
Nebraska
Yeah, but you are not getting those type of series every single year...you are moving the goalposts.

If you get a VT-type offer, you should take it every single time...stop saying no...quit forcing the p5 to bend to your will, the p5 does not need you, but you need them.

The NET rankings are all fraudulent when teams like DePaul are still ranked high. What do we need this type of series for? Where do we benefit from this when we could go play single or two games at Duke or Kentucky with no return

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:50 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
They were 16-16 this year. Not an NCAA team to me this year. Up and down
Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.
I would start with Home and homes with these teams: I would rather schedule some of these and than try to either get 2 for 1”s or tournaments. Why cater to the power with a team like Virginia Tech that does nothing to help us

Western Kentucky
Belmont
Murray state
Easy Tennessee State
Furman
Unc Greensboro
Stephen Austin
St. Mary’s
BYU
New Mexico State
Wichita State
Houston
SMU
Vermont
Harvard

I think you are really dreaming if you think every one of those schools is going to agree to a home and home series, I do not think you realize how tough scheduling has become in today's world.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:52 pm**

We supposedly had to BEG Saint Mary's to play us in a home and home series.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:53 pm**

I am very skeptical if you get Wichita State, Houston, or SMU to agree to a home and home. The others are all hit or miss, not consistently good programs every single year.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:56 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
here do we benefit from this when we could go play single or two games at Duke or Kentucky with no return

Because Duke and Kentucky are not agreeing to that series?

In reduced OOC environment, all of their quality opponents pretty much occur in season tournaments, exclusive neutral court games, and challenge games.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:57 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago

Alabama - just did it
Nebraska
Yeah, but you are not getting those type of series every single year...you are moving the goalposts.

If you get a VT-type offer, you should take it every single time...stop saying no...quit forcing the p5 to bend to your will, the p5 does not need you, but you need them.
The NET rankings are all fraudulent when teams like DePaul are still ranked high. What do we need this type of series for? Where do we benefit from this when we could go play single or two games at Duke or Kentucky with no return

I never said 2 road games at Duke or UK...I said 2 road games PLUS a neutral game...big difference...and I never said Duke or UK, I said VT...another big difference.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:59 pm**

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
here do we benefit from this when we could go play single or two games at Duke or Kentucky with no return
Because Duke and Kentucky are not agreeing to that series?

They wouldn’t agree to us playing 1-2 road games at their place with no returns-neutral or home? I think you are wrong. These teams will always play teams if they are home games. What would they lose from it?

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:00 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

Yeah, but you are not getting those type of series every single year...you are moving the goalposts.

If you get a VT-type offer, you should take it every single time...stop saying no...quit forcing the p5 to bend to your will, the p5 does not need you, but you need them.
The NET rankings are all fraudulent when teams like DePaul are still ranked high. What do we need this type of series for? Where do we benefit from this when we could go play single or two games at Duke or Kentucky with no return
I never said 2 road games at Duke or UK...I said 2 road games PLUS a neutral game...big difference...and I never said Duke or UK, I said VT...another big difference.

I would take the Duke and Kentucky two for 1 neutral in a heartbeat. Not VT.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:02 pm**

I will agree that BYU is a good example, but you might have to beg them to play you in a home and home like we had to beg Saint Mary's.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:02 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

Ok, so who are you going go be able to schedule that is better than the VT deal? Give me some names of willing mid--majors.
I would start with Home and homes with these teams: I would rather schedule some of these and than try to either get 2 for 1”s or tournaments. Why cater to the power with a team like Virginia Tech that does nothing to help us

Western Kentucky
Belmont
Murray state
Easy Tennessee State
Furman
Unc Greensboro
Stephen Austin
St. Mary’s
BYU
New Mexico State
Wichita State
Houston
SMU
Vermont
Harvard
I think you are really dreaming if you think every one of those schools is going to agree to a home and home series, I do not think you realize how tough scheduling has become in today's world.

Pretty sure I’m not dreaming from this large a list. I didn’t exactly list any Power 5’s on here

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:04 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago I will agree that BYU is a good example, but you might have to beg them to play you in a home and home like we had to beg Saint Mary's.

But Alabama will play a home and home with us. So we couldn’t find a few 2 for 1’s or home and home with mid majors?

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:04 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
The NET rankings are all fraudulent when teams like DePaul are still ranked high. What do we need this type of series for? Where do we benefit from this when we could go play single or two games at Duke or Kentucky with no return
I never said 2 road games at Duke or UK...I said 2 road games PLUS a neutral game...big difference...and I never said Duke or UK, I said VT...another big difference.
I would take the Duke and Kentucky two for 1 neutral in a heartbeat. Not VT.

And again, you are NEVER going to get Duke or UK to agree to that arraignment. Keep dreaming.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:07 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago I will agree that BYU is a good example, but you might have to beg them to play you in a home and home like we had to beg Saint Mary's.
But Alabama will play a home and home with us. So we couldn’t find a few 2 for 1’s or home and home with mid majors?

Again, you are not getting an Alabama type series every single year. The Alabama and Nebraska series were spaced out over the last 6 years, you had 2 years missing...4 years yes but 2 years with nothing.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:09 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
The NET rankings are all fraudulent when teams like DePaul are still ranked high. What do we need this type of series for? Where do we benefit from this when we could go play single or two games at Duke or Kentucky with no return
I never said 2 road games at Duke or UK...I said 2 road games PLUS a neutral game...big difference...and I never said Duke or UK, I said VT...another big difference.
I would take the Duke and Kentucky two for 1 neutral in a heartbeat. Not VT.

These teams are now cutting their OOC's to 11 games.

Look at Duke -- they'll play Michigan St in the Champions Classic, 3 games in the Battle 4 Atlantis, and a Big 10 challenge game. If they were to commit to one more difficult game, I'd bet it's a neutral court game in NYC against a Top 25ish opponent. The rest of their schedule will be against the more creampuff type opponents. Same thing will be true of Kentucky. They can play anybody they want. Less games means more exclusivity. If you want to play those teams you'll need to be a perennial tournament team and even then it may not happen.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:09 pm**

Also, the advent of 20 game p5 league schedules is going to make the Alabama and Nebraska series even harder to get going forward. The first of those series started 6 years ago, a lot has changed in the last 6 years.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:11 pm**

I would pass on that deal with VT I would do one road game and one nuetral not 2 road games

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:11 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

I never said 2 road games at Duke or UK...I said 2 road games PLUS a neutral game...big difference...and I never said Duke or UK, I said VT...another big difference.
I would take the Duke and Kentucky two for 1 neutral in a heartbeat. Not VT.
And again, you are NEVER going to get Duke or UK to agree to that arraignment. Keep dreaming.

I get that!!! Why do you think what I said was I would rather play 1-2 road games against them with nothing in return. A neutral game at Mohegan is worth nothing from Virginia Tech

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:12 pm**

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

I never said 2 road games at Duke or UK...I said 2 road games PLUS a neutral game...big difference...and I never said Duke or UK, I said VT...another big difference.
I would take the Duke and Kentucky two for 1 neutral in a heartbeat. Not VT.
These teams are now cutting their OOC's to 11 games.

Look at Duke -- they'll play Michigan St in the Champions Classic, 3 games in the Battle 4 Atlantis, and a Big 10 challenge game. If they were to commit to one more difficult game, I'd bet it's a neutral court game in NYC against a Top 25ish opponent. The rest of their schedule will be against the more creampuff type opponents. Same thing will be true of Kentucky. They can play anybody they want. Less games means more exclusivity. If you want to play those teams you'll need to be a perennial tournament team and even then it may not happen.

Than play cream puffs I guess. College basketball has already gone down a bad road with the transfer rule and the increased conference schedule.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:14 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Two road games for one neutral site game against Virginia Tech, or a school of their caliber is a horrible deal. This isn't Duke or Kentucky we're talking about
No, not a bad deal at all IMO, you should take that deal, I would take that deal.

I have been to Blacksburg once, pretty area and pretty campus. Drove up to the mountaintop resort where part of the movie Dirty Dancing was filmed.

What does Blacksburg being a nice campus have to do with helping URI scheduling?

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:15 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
I would take the Duke and Kentucky two for 1 neutral in a heartbeat. Not VT.
And again, you are NEVER going to get Duke or UK to agree to that arraignment. Keep dreaming.
I get that!!! Why do you think what I said was I would rather play 1-2 road games against them with nothing in return. A neutral game at Mohegan is worth nothing from Virginia Tech

Sigh...agree to disagree...a neutral game with VT at Mohegan is worth a lot imo...I would take that game in a heartbeat.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:17 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑4 years ago
Two road games for one neutral site game against Virginia Tech, or a school of their caliber is a horrible deal. This isn't Duke or Kentucky we're talking about
No, not a bad deal at all IMO, you should take that deal, I would take that deal.

I have been to Blacksburg once, pretty area and pretty campus. Drove up to the mountaintop resort where part of the movie Dirty Dancing was filmed.
What does Blacksburg being a nice campus have to do with helping URI scheduling?

Haha...it has nothing to do with anything...it was just a rando comment...lol

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:20 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
I would take the Duke and Kentucky two for 1 neutral in a heartbeat. Not VT.
These teams are now cutting their OOC's to 11 games.

Look at Duke -- they'll play Michigan St in the Champions Classic, 3 games in the Battle 4 Atlantis, and a Big 10 challenge game. If they were to commit to one more difficult game, I'd bet it's a neutral court game in NYC against a Top 25ish opponent. The rest of their schedule will be against the more creampuff type opponents. Same thing will be true of Kentucky. They can play anybody they want. Less games means more exclusivity. If you want to play those teams you'll need to be a perennial tournament team and even then it may not happen.
Than play cream puffs I guess. College basketball has already gone down a bad road with the transfer rule and the increased conference schedule.

What more do you want from them? Last year isn't a great example but they'll go into conference play and play 6-8 Q1 games and 6-8 Q2 games. They play plenty of difficult conference games and a number of difficult OOC games. Why should Duke or Kentucky have to play anyone and everyone who wants to play them OOC while also playing much stronger conference schedules? Scheduling is strategic and committing to known commodities. Unpredictability is a scheduler's nightmare.

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:20 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
I would start with Home and homes with these teams: I would rather schedule some of these and than try to either get 2 for 1”s or tournaments. Why cater to the power with a team like Virginia Tech that does nothing to help us

Western Kentucky
Belmont
Murray state
Easy Tennessee State
Furman guy
Unc Greensboro
Stephen Austin
St. Mary’s
BYU
New Mexico State
Wichita State
Houston
SMU
Vermont
Harvard
When was the last time a win over Va Tech would NOT have "helped us"? How many times in the last 10 years would such a win not have helped us? (Channels Ramster...)
Let’s see-this year! They were 16-16 and there would have been a good chance that we lost on the road just like a-10 road games are tough. If we won it wouldn’t have helped us. I’m sure the fraud net ranking is the next thing I will hear. No one reason to do two road games to Virginia Tech for a neutral game at Mohegan. Better teams have come with one or none

That kinda tood will get us no-place....

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:24 pm**

RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
I would start with Home and homes with these teams: I would rather schedule some of these and than try to either get 2 for 1”s or tournaments. Why cater to the power with a team like Virginia Tech that does nothing to help us

Western Kentucky
Belmont
Murray state
Easy Tennessee State
Furman guy
Unc Greensboro
Stephen Austin
St. Mary’s
BYU
New Mexico State
Wichita State
Houston
SMU
Vermont
Harvard
When was the last time a win over Va Tech would NOT have "helped us"? How many times in the last 10 years would such a win not have helped us? (Channels Ramster...)
Let’s see-this year! They were 16-16 and there would have been a good chance that we lost on the road just like a-10 road games are tough. If we won it wouldn’t have helped us. I’m sure the fraud net ranking is the next thing I will hear. No one reason to do two road games to Virginia Tech for a neutral game at Mohegan. Better teams have come with one or none

What does that have to do with anything? If you're staying away from games because you're afraid you might lose on the road...you're never going to get anywhere... Let's say we had played VT this year and beat them...how many 'better' wins would we have had this year? I won't say it's none, but it ain't a lot...

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:47 pm**

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑4 years ago

No, not a bad deal at all IMO, you should take that deal, I would take that deal.

I have been to Blacksburg once, pretty area and pretty campus. Drove up to the mountaintop resort where part of the movie Dirty Dancing was filmed.
What does Blacksburg being a nice campus have to do with helping URI scheduling?
Haha...it has nothing to do with anything...it was just a rando comment...lol

LOL-just busting into you

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:50 pm**

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago

These teams are now cutting their OOC's to 11 games.

Look at Duke -- they'll play Michigan St in the Champions Classic, 3 games in the Battle 4 Atlantis, and a Big 10 challenge game. If they were to commit to one more difficult game, I'd bet it's a neutral court game in NYC against a Top 25ish opponent. The rest of their schedule will be against the more creampuff type opponents. Same thing will be true of Kentucky. They can play anybody they want. Less games means more exclusivity. If you want to play those teams you'll need to be a perennial tournament team and even then it may not happen.
Than play cream puffs I guess. College basketball has already gone down a bad road with the transfer rule and the increased conference schedule.
What more do you want from them? Last year isn't a great example but they'll go into conference play and play 6-8 Q1 games and 6-8 Q2 games. They play plenty of difficult conference games and a number of difficult OOC games. Why should Duke or Kentucky have to play anyone and everyone who wants to play them OOC while also playing much stronger conference schedules? Scheduling is strategic and committing to known commodities. Unpredictability is a scheduler's nightmare.

Duke and Kentucky are just examples. Get into tournaments and hope for the best, try and schedule mid major home and home as they are in the same boat. It is all a guess. What if we had UNC at the Mohegan this year for example. It will never happen, but eliminating Fordham and one more A-10 would be a nice start

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:52 pm**

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago

When was the last time a win over Va Tech would NOT have "helped us"? How many times in the last 10 years would such a win not have helped us? (Channels Ramster...)
Let’s see-this year! They were 16-16 and there would have been a good chance that we lost on the road just like a-10 road games are tough. If we won it wouldn’t have helped us. I’m sure the fraud net ranking is the next thing I will hear. No one reason to do two road games to Virginia Tech for a neutral game at Mohegan. Better teams have come with one or none
That kinda tood will get us no-place....

What??

Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:55 pm**

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago

When was the last time a win over Va Tech would NOT have "helped us"? How many times in the last 10 years would such a win not have helped us? (Channels Ramster...)
Let’s see-this year! They were 16-16 and there would have been a good chance that we lost on the road just like a-10 road games are tough. If we won it wouldn’t have helped us. I’m sure the fraud net ranking is the next thing I will hear. No one reason to do two road games to Virginia Tech for a neutral game at Mohegan. Better teams have come with one or none
What does that have to do with anything? If you're staying away from games because you're afraid you might lose on the road...you're never going to get anywhere... Let's say we had played VT this year and beat them...how many 'better' wins would we have had this year? I won't say it's none, but it ain't a lot...

So you would just give in and not try and find another route. I’m glad your not the AD. Who knows what will work with the new rules, but if the Mohegan games continue URI will play there every two years and they usually have 2-3 quality teams in the tournament. Games like Alabama won’t be easy which I agree with the new schedule, but are we supposed to just kiss up to the power 5 teams? I wouldn’t, but I guess you would

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