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At the meeting tonight scheduling was brought up and it was mentioned that Nebraska will be a 7pm start and Detroit will be an afternoon game.
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VCU has now released their 13 game OOC schedule and it appears to be a strong one. VCU gets to play in two special events – the Legends Classic at Barclays in which they drew Villanova in first round and play either Oregon or Michigan in the second round. Also, VCU will play Tennessee in a special event, the inaugural Veterans Classic at Annapolis, MD. An appearance by Virginia, their first ever to the Siegel Center highlights the home portion of the VCU OOC schedule. Also on the home schedule are two perennial NCAA contenders, Northern Iowa and Belmont.

This is a smartly conceived schedule with VCU playing 3 BCS schools on neutral turf, another BCS school at home and another on the road (Cincy). Other than a rivalry game at ODU, VCU plays the strongest non-BCS schools at home, weaker ones away, and plays only three true road games. Good shot at going 10-3 or better prior to conference play.
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Obadiah wrote:VCU has now released their 13 game OOC schedule and it appears to be a strong one. VCU gets to play in two special events – the Legends Classic at Barclays in which they drew Villanova in first round and play either Oregon or Michigan in the second round. Also, VCU will play Tennessee in a special event, the inaugural Veterans Classic at Annapolis, MD. An appearance by Virginia, their first ever to the Siegel Center highlights the home portion of the VCU OOC schedule. Also on the home schedule are two perennial NCAA contenders, Northern Iowa and Belmont.

This is a smartly conceived schedule with VCU playing 3 BCS schools on neutral turf, another BCS school at home and another on the road (Cincy). Other than a rivalry game at ODU, VCU plays the strongest non-BCS schools at home, weaker ones away, and plays only three true road games. Good shot at going 10-3 or better prior to conference play.
Another under-the-radar OOC game that could pay serious dividends is Toledo who returns almost everyone from a 27-7 2013-2014 team that finished #38 in the RPI. They're going to be our home opener on ESPNU in the 24 Hour ESPN Hoops Tip-Off Marathon.
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districtballer. Your opener is noteworthy as CBS Sports is using it to launch their college basketball TV schedule. Also, VCU gets to participate in a tournament to honor Veterans day and you get to play Tennessee as they usher in the Donnie Tyndall era. I guess this new event will replace those aircraft carrier games. The second game of the double header will pit the host Navy versus Michigan State, a David vs. Goliath game. But the VCU –Vols will be the highlight. Are you planning to attend?
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Obadiah wrote:districtballer. Your opener is noteworthy as CBS Sports is using it to launch their college basketball TV schedule. Also, VCU gets to participate in a tournament to honor Veterans day and you get to play Tennessee as they usher in the Donnie Tyndall era. I guess this new event will replace those aircraft carrier games. The second game of the double header will pit the host Navy versus Michigan State, a David vs. Goliath game. But the VCU –Vols will be the highlight. Are you planning to attend?
Will definitely try to attend. Those kinds of games in those locales are special. Annapolis all by itself is a reason to go. Gorgeous.
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Taking a look at GW’s 13 game OOC schedule, one comes away unimpressed especially considering their credentials last season - #37 RPI and a NCAA invite. Yea, they play at Virginia and play in the Diamond Head Classic, which will provide some good (not great) competition. But they play 4 teams at home, three of which sport RPI’s in the 300’s. Other than Virginia, the only other OOC team they play having a below 100 RPI is Ohio. Likely to go 10-3 with this schedule. I would like nothing more than to beat these guys when GW visits Ryan this season. Some Ram payback is in order.
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Dayton has also released their OOC schedule and one would expect more from a team that made a magical run to the Elite Eight last year, but major tests will come in the Puerto Rico Tip-Off where they have a possibility of meeting UConn. The Flyers play only two true road games at Arkansas and Miami (O). Other than a chance encounter with UConn, the top rated RPI opponent is Arkansas. But Dayton reaps PR value from playing both Georgia Tech and Ole Miss in Dayton. Look for Dayton to go 10-2 with this schedule.
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Miller shared some thoughts on scheduling in his interview with Chris DiSano:

CD: It's always a chore for A10 teams to get high-level opponents to play them and assemble a non-conference slate. Is it any easier post Elite-8 because the Dayton brand benefited, or is it still the same old chore?

Miller: It's always a challenge. Whether you're really good or you're not, most people look and say 'Why would you go to UD Arena and play them?', and by the way, 'They're good enough to come to your place and beat you,' just look at their track record. I will say that since we've had some success, we are an attractive game for television because we bring a crowd and our play and style of play is the type that people want to play against on television. So one of the marketability things that happens is there are some people out there looking that say, 'Hey, this would be a great opportunity to do this... or that', so we're getting more help, but it's still a hard chore to get people to do it. It's the hardest thing to do other than recruit.

It's not perfect and it's very difficult, but our league in general has gotten the picture. We're in a league that is getting multiple bids because the coaches in our league are smart enough to realize that there are different ways to do it. You don't need to always play Duke and Carolina, there's a reason to play Iona at home or go on the road and play Middle Tennessee State. The numbers are the numbers and, while sometimes not as sexy for your fans, at the end of the day the resume is going to be there. That's the one thing the programs in our league have a great understanding about.
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URI96 wrote:
RF1 wrote:We probably are going to have wonder and wait another five weeks before the official schedule is announced.

It was released between September 6th and the 12th the preceding three years.
I've heard early August

That didn't happen. It is now August 16th and no schedule and no idea who our last couple of opponents are. My guess is that they are still trying to lock things down. Hopefully they don't get desperate enough and put a non D1 on the schedule. There aren't usually a lot of good options this late.
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You're right, the lateness of the schedule release is not a good sign that the remaining openings will be filled by quality opponents. Nebraska, PC, Southern Miss, and the three Orlando Classic games help the SOS, but we already have three opponents with RPI's well into the 200's, and Delaware State with a RPI of 330 doesn't help.
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It's always released in the beginning of September
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Laprey told a friend of mine that he wanted to get it done by the end of June! So much for intentions.
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Scheduling is not rocket science so it’s no surprise that the low ranked conference teams put together weak OOC schedules and the top ranked teams put together stronger ones, but even with this rationale, Duquesne’s just released OOC schedule is a pathetic one. Opening with a D2 opponent - Bluefield State – Duquesne meets five other schools with RPI’s over 300, not to mention two others in the high 200’s! Their local rivals – Pitt, Penn State and Robert Morris represent the toughest foes in the 11 game schedule. That URI lost to them last year was an embarrassment, which I hope will be reversed at Palumbo this season. Given this weak schedule, Duquesne is likely to go 8-3 in the OOC.
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ace wrote:Miller shared some thoughts on scheduling in his interview with Chris DiSano:

CD: It's always a chore for A10 teams to get high-level opponents to play them and assemble a non-conference slate. Is it any easier post Elite-8 because the Dayton brand benefited, or is it still the same old chore?

Miller: It's always a challenge. Whether you're really good or you're not, most people look and say 'Why would you go to UD Arena and play them?', and by the way, 'They're good enough to come to your place and beat you,' just look at their track record. I will say that since we've had some success, we are an attractive game for television because we bring a crowd and our play and style of play is the type that people want to play against on television. So one of the marketability things that happens is there are some people out there looking that say, 'Hey, this would be a great opportunity to do this... or that', so we're getting more help, but it's still a hard chore to get people to do it. It's the hardest thing to do other than recruit.

It's not perfect and it's very difficult, but our league in general has gotten the picture. We're in a league that is getting multiple bids because the coaches in our league are smart enough to realize that there are different ways to do it. You don't need to always play Duke and Carolina, there's a reason to play Iona at home or go on the road and play Middle Tennessee State. The numbers are the numbers and, while sometimes not as sexy for your fans, at the end of the day the resume is going to be there. That's the one thing the programs in our league have a great understanding about.
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Looks like we are close. From Basketball Travelers post a few days ago we need one last game:

"Need last game... Dec 3-6 or Dec 27-29... Prefer the early December dates... Looking for H-H with Low-Major - would consider a small buy game."
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So what's a "low major", somebody like Northwestern or Rutgers?
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Low Major is bottom third of D1, I would think.
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Lower-third conferences….
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These conferences and their member schools would be considered low-major: Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Ivy, Mid-Eastern Athletic, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southland, Summit and Southwestern Athletic
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Wonder who are considered just Major or when people started to attach low, mid, high to major.

Sports people seem to always have a very small vocabulary and its trendy.

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I think the WAC is now a low-major as well. That used to be a very good conference before it split with the Mountain West. Now it has the likes of Denver, Utah Valley State, Seattle, Chicago State and a bunch of other no-names. The only semi relevant school there is New Mexico State.
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Don't think that anybody has mentioned it yet but i'm hearing that after stellar summers put together by Nebraska's Terran Petteway and Shavon Shields, along with the return of rising Sophomore Walter Pitchford (6'10 235lbs 9.3ppg 5rpg 41% 3pt) that the Cornhuskers have a legit chance to be a pre-season top 25 team. After surprising most in the country by qualifying for the tournament last year, the teams top 2 returning players, Petteway and Shields, were both invited to Adidas Nations this summer and played well. Both are currently projected as future 1st round picks. Pitchford is a matchup nightmare. The 6'10 PF runs the floor well and is a knockdown shooter from outside, shooting 41% on nearly 4 three-pointers taken a game. The team will certainly garner votes to begin the season as they return basically everyone from last years 19-12 team and add a couple decent freshman and a grad transfer from Georgetown in 6'9 250lb Moses Ayegba. Petteway along with Wisconsin's Frank Kaminsky are the early favorites to be the conference player of the year in the Big10. Petteway (18ppg 5 rpg) was a unanimous 1st team all conference selection after leading the Big10 in scoring.

If Nebraska does break into the top 25 and Rhody can somehow pull off the upset over Kansas; URI would most likely play against Michigan St.

Meaning that Rhody has a chance to play 3 top 25 caliber opponents all within the first 2 weeks of the season. There have been some detractors on here that have complained about the lack of firepower on our schedule. Even if Nebraska isn't in the top 25 when we play them, they have the ability to get there by the end of the year.

That being said, wins over Nebraska and Kansas alone might be enough to sway the committee if Rhody can have a decent year in conference and break the 20 win plateau.
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We need to pack the RC vs Nebraska. Will be a shame if not sold out. Tell your fam and friends to go!


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I know it would never happen but look who's looking for a buy game on Nov 18th and we just happen to be trying to buy a team for that same date. Ironically they are just two lines apart on the Travelers board.



Canisius College Patrick Clarke 4012552002 clarkep@canisius.edu Looking to be bought. Have a few more dates - Nov 17,18 Dec 13,14,15,23,28. 2014-2015, Guarantee - Needed 2014-08-21 12:25:29

Rhode Island Luke Murray 4018744566 lukemurray@uri.edu Looking for a buy game... Dates are Nov. 18-19, Dec. 3-6, and Dec. 27-28... Low Major D1 Opponents only... Thanks 2014-2015, Guarantee - Offered 2014-08-20 18:59:30
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I think there is a greater likelihood it could happen now that Billy is gone


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SlyWilliamsCaddy wrote:Meaning that Rhody has a chance to play 3 top 25 caliber opponents all within the first 2 weeks of the season. There have been some detractors on here that have complained about the lack of firepower on our schedule. Even if Nebraska isn't in the top 25 when we play them, they have the ability to get there by the end of the year.

That being said, wins over Nebraska and Kansas alone might be enough to sway the committee if Rhody can have a decent year in conference and break the 20 win plateau.
The big point of emphasis from the selection committee last year was play a tough OOC and be adaquately rewarded. Look at Georgetown for example... 17-14, high 60's RPI, 8-10 in conference, 1 and done in BET (to a bad team). One really bad loss OOC to Northeastern (neutral), and other 2 losses were Kansas (away) and Oregon (neutral). Beat Michigan St. (neutral), VCU (neutral), and Kansas St. (neutral). In conference, road record 2-7. Best road win in conference: Butler (150). Did beat Creighton, Xavier, and PC at home. However given that resume, they were "first 4 out" as listed by selection committee.
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rjsuperfly66 wrote:
SlyWilliamsCaddy wrote:Meaning that Rhody has a chance to play 3 top 25 caliber opponents all within the first 2 weeks of the season. There have been some detractors on here that have complained about the lack of firepower on our schedule. Even if Nebraska isn't in the top 25 when we play them, they have the ability to get there by the end of the year.

That being said, wins over Nebraska and Kansas alone might be enough to sway the committee if Rhody can have a decent year in conference and break the 20 win plateau.
The big point of emphasis from the selection committee last year was play a tough OOC and be adaquately rewarded. Look at Georgetown for example... 17-14, high 60's RPI, 8-10 in conference, 1 and done in BET (to a bad team). One really bad loss OOC to Northeastern (neutral), and other 2 losses were Kansas (away) and Oregon (neutral). Beat Michigan St. (neutral), VCU (neutral), and Kansas St. (neutral). In conference, road record 2-7. Best road win in conference: Butler (150). Did beat Creighton, Xavier, and PC at home. However given that resume, they were "first 4 out" as listed by selection committee.
17-14 in a mid major conference is not getting you in the tournament.
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Canisius better bite on that offer.
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Not happening.
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You have sources for that definitive statement, or is that your feeling?
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Baron will never schedule URI
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If Baron had a team that could beat URI, he might think about it. But he's not going to get humiliated again. No way this will happen.
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Canisius College is in the middle of a severe financial shortfall, resulting in their organization being downgraded by Moody's with a poor outlook. Their President had to block any cost of living increases for staff and faculty among other "unprecedented steps" which included layoffs of faculty/staff to keep the doors open there after another year of critically low enrollment. Read Canisius President Sr. Margaret Carney's statement here.

Small D1 schools rely heavily on guarantee games. Are you saying that Baron will be able to turn down an exact match for their request out of pride while the rest of his institution is in financial crisis?? What will the faculty/staff say about that?
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Wouldn't Baron get compensation for a buy game with us? There is no chance the school is going to do a buy game where he gets comp from it.
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I really see no downside for Baron. His kid doesn't play there anymore which is likely the reason why he didn't want any part of us in the NIT tip off event last year.

What is the downside if he loses to us? He isn't supposed to beat us, so no pressure.

Would be more pressure on us. A loss to CFL would be embarrassing.

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theblueram wrote:
rjsuperfly66 wrote:
SlyWilliamsCaddy wrote:Meaning that Rhody has a chance to play 3 top 25 caliber opponents all within the first 2 weeks of the season. There have been some detractors on here that have complained about the lack of firepower on our schedule. Even if Nebraska isn't in the top 25 when we play them, they have the ability to get there by the end of the year.

That being said, wins over Nebraska and Kansas alone might be enough to sway the committee if Rhody can have a decent year in conference and break the 20 win plateau.
The big point of emphasis from the selection committee last year was play a tough OOC and be adaquately rewarded. Look at Georgetown for example... 17-14, high 60's RPI, 8-10 in conference, 1 and done in BET (to a bad team).
17-14 in a mid major conference is not getting you in the tournament.
Tell that to the committee who had them first four out.
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No way Jim Baron ever steps foot in the Ryan Center again.
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ATP, what's up with the restrictions on embedded quotes?
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RJ, next year I will certainly tell the committee to invite all NBE teams that are 17-14 overall with a losing conference record to be invited to the dance. Heh.
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theblueram wrote:RJ, next year I will certainly tell the committee to invite all NBE teams that are 17-14 overall with a losing conference record to be invited to the dance. Heh.
My point was simply that a Georgetown team that didn't pass the eye test, stat test, or any other test was considered a near miss simply because of their degree of difficulty of the OOC. You can say whatever you want about them, but the committee included them in the broadcast as just missing. And trust me, I agree with your assessment.
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theblueram wrote:ATP, what's up with the restrictions on embedded quotes?
I think it says on that message you have too many layers of nested quotes. Red Text at top: You may embed only 3 quotes within each other.
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rjsuperfly66 wrote:
theblueram wrote:RJ, next year I will certainly tell the committee to invite all NBE teams that are 17-14 overall with a losing conference record to be invited to the dance. Heh.
My point was simply that a Georgetown team that didn't pass the eye test, stat test, or any other test was considered a near miss simply because of their degree of difficulty of the OOC. You can say whatever you want about them, but the committee included them in the broadcast as just missing. And trust me, I agree with your assessment.
I agree. They had consideration based on who they beat but their record kept them out.
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Rams play at S. Miss on Dec. 6
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Here's a post I found from last year....


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I believe that leaves room for 1 more game, there are 30 there. I don't know if they will add on later or this is final


The news release states "URI may add an additional game at a later date."
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It would be magnanimous of URI to invite a Jim Baron coached team to play at the RC. Isn't JB the most winning head basketball coach in URI History? Someday he will be inducted into the URI Athletic HOF. If they planned an embellished introduction of JB, they better distribute puke bags.
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It is apparent that there were a lot of hard feelings with the Jim Baron departure. I am sure he is still smarting from getting fired and URI probably didn't appreciate his going public with his contention that they had not honored the pay terms of his contract with regards to his dismissal. I highly doubt that either side wants anything to do with the other. Baron especially would not want to risk losing to URI as it might be construed by many as final validation of his firing. I just can't see Baron ever agreeing to it. It is probably also no coincidence that the two teams avoided playing each other in the NIT Tip-Off Tournament last year. It would have made much more sense to have had Canisius come to the Ryan Center for the consolation rounds instead of going to Elon in NC. Instead two NC teams (ECU and UNC-Asheville) came to Kingston and did not go to Elon which would have made much more sense. My guess is that both sides made it clear (possibly even as a condition to participating) to tournament organizers that they did not want to play each other.
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Baron is far from the winningest coach in URI history.
Frank Keaney had 404 wins, and nobody else is close.
What CFL was? The most losses by any coach in URI history.
Lots of teams in college basketball to schedule besides Canisius.
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For the record, the following is history of URI basketball coaches beginning with the legendary Frank Keaney.

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#	    Coach	        Initial Season   # of Seasons   Overall Record	 Winning %  Losing Seasons  Post Season
19	Dan Hurley	         2012-13   	       2	         22-39	        .318	         2	         -
18	Jim Baron	          2001-02	         11	        177-142	       .555	         3	      5 NIT/1CBI
17	Jerry  DiGregorio	  1999-00             2	         12-48	        .200	         2	         -
16	Jim Harrick	        1997-98	          2	         45-22	        .671	         0	        2 NCAA
15	Al Skinner	         1988-89	          9	        138-126	       .523	         4	      2 NCAA/2 NIT
14	Tom Penders	        1986-87	          2	         48-17	        .738	         0	      1 NCAA/1 NIT
13	Brendan Malone	     1984-85	          2	         17-39	        .303	         2	          -
12	Claude English	     1980-81	          4	         45-66	        .405	         3	        1 NIT
11	Jack Kraft	         1973-74             7	        103-88	        .539  	       2	      1 NCAA/1 NIT
10	Tom Carmody	        1968-69	          5	         58-73	        .443	         3	           -
9	 Ernie Calverley	    1957-58	         11	        154-125          .552	         3	        2 NCAA
8	 Jack Guy	           1952-53	          5	         60-57	        .513	         2	           -
7	 Bob Haire	          1948-49         	 4	         57-42	        .576	         2              - 
6	 Frank Keaney	       1920-21	         28	        401-124	       .764	         1	        4 NIT
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Re: 2014-15 Schedule

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I mentioned this on the recruiting thread about Terrence Mann. URI should use its connection to him through his mother to try to set up a H&H series in a few years with Florida State (which he committed to last week). It would give Mann a chance to play in front of his family. Might make sense for all sides that something is set up for his jr and sr years. It would be a very good home OOC opponent for Rhody and the Seminoles are not such an elite hoops program which would make it unthinkable (like fellow ACC members Duke, UNC, or Syracuse).
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Re: 2014-15 Schedule

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Penders had quite a record. I guess I've never looked at his W-L record while at URI.

He should come post on this board from time to time.
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