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Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:36 pm**

Dino611 wrote: ↑2 months ago

Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:37 pm**

A. It appears I did in fact jinx things.
B. It appears guys have started having their end of year meetings

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:42 pm**

His (Dubs) original offers were Radford and Maine. Kind of telling. We need guys offered from A10/MWC P5 ect.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:54 pm**

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Dino611 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back

Interesting that you're surprised. His body language did not look great throughout this season. I don't think he was enjoying it here.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:55 pm**

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Dino611 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back

He wanted out before this year. He only stayed because he didn't want to sit another season. Now that he can transfer and play, it makes sense that he's gone. I agree. I was hoping that his bigger role may have convinced him to stay..

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:04 pm**

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:05 pm**

rhodyram22 wrote: ↑2 months ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Dino611 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back
Interesting that you're surprised. His body language did not look great throughout this season. I don't think he was enjoying it here.

For the first year and a half I agree. It seemed things had turned a corner with him getting a bigger role and Miller praising his leadership in the media

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:06 pm**

Tyson Brown see ya later! Played hard but we can do better.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:06 pm**

Just don’t want to see Estevez, Fuchs, or Green in this

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:08 pm**

Not terrible so far...

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:10 pm**

gorhody89 wrote: ↑2 months ago Just don’t want to see Estevez, Fuchs, or Green in this

Can Green even transfer again?

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:12 pm**

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑2 months ago
gorhody89 wrote: ↑2 months ago Just don’t want to see Estevez, Fuchs, or Green in this
Can Green even transfer again?

Sure he can, not two time transfer rule right now and I'm sure he's close to graduating anyway.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:13 pm**

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Dino611 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back

I’m ok with it Fuchs Cam and DG are the 3 I don’t want to lose anyone else I can live with

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:15 pm**

Add Tyson Brown to the Portal!

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:16 pm**

reef wrote: ↑2 months ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Dino611 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back
I’m ok with it Fuchs Cam and DG are the 3 I don’t want to lose anyone else I can live with

Only returning 3 is too small a number. That wouldn't be as much of a complete reset, but it would still mean 10 new players including the 2 freshmen.

At worst I think I'd want at least 5 guys from this team.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:19 pm**

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 months ago
reef wrote: ↑2 months ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago

Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back
I’m ok with it Fuchs Cam and DG are the 3 I don’t want to lose anyone else I can live with
Only returning 3 is too small a number. That wouldn't be as much of a complete reset, but it would still mean 10 new players including the 2 freshmen.

At worst I think I'd want at least 5 guys from this team.

I kind of agree with both of you. Two or three is too small a number to return, but as long as Fuchs and Estevez return as the core I'll be ok. I didn't include Green just because he could be done with college. If he's playing college ball in 2024-25 then I want him to return as well

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:21 pm**

Bilau, Fou, Rory, Brown, Weston and Dubs thus far.

Now we are sitting at
Luis
House
Ways
Zek
Fuchs
Farrell
Hammond
Green
Estevez

I'd even be fine with that, most wouldn't, but you can add 4 good players to that group and you may have something.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:23 pm**

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 months ago Bilau, Fou, Rory, Brown, Stewart, Weston and Dubs thus far.

Now we are sitting at
Luis
House
Ways
Zek
Fuchs
Farrell
Hammond
Green
Estevez

I'd even be fine with that, most wouldn't, but you can add 4 good players to that group and you may have something.

Luis indicated he was going to play internationally, so I would be surprised if he stays.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:23 pm**

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
rhodyram22 wrote: ↑2 months ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago

Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back
Interesting that you're surprised. His body language did not look great throughout this season. I don't think he was enjoying it here.
For the first year and a half I agree. It seemed things had turned a corner with him getting a bigger role and Miller praising his leadership in the media

That IS true. I liked Weston, but we could definitely do better. I wonder who would want to come to URI next season. Not a very attractive place rn

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:26 pm**

Idk about you folks, but now I need to see URI on some lists of "x transfer is receiving interest from..."

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:27 pm**

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 months ago
reef wrote: ↑2 months ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago

Surprised with this one. Wouldn't have been surprised about halfway through the season, but with how things seemed down the stretch I thought he might be back
I’m ok with it Fuchs Cam and DG are the 3 I don’t want to lose anyone else I can live with
Only returning 3 is too small a number. That wouldn't be as much of a complete reset, but it would still mean 10 new players including the 2 freshmen.

At worst I think I'd want at least 5 guys from this team.

I have 5.
The 2 incoming freshmen plus 3 current roster. Fuchs and Estevez need playing time along with the 2 incoming freshmen.
Need to bring in at least 1 or more transfers capable of being All A10 Conference players.

Just because Miller wants some to stay some may leave regardless for a better opportunity on a better team, better conference, more playing time, change of scenery?

I don’t see more than 5 when all is said and done by next November 1. Could be wrong of course but major change is needed.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:29 pm**

rhodyram22 wrote: ↑2 months ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
rhodyram22 wrote: ↑2 months ago

Interesting that you're surprised. His body language did not look great throughout this season. I don't think he was enjoying it here.
For the first year and a half I agree. It seemed things had turned a corner with him getting a bigger role and Miller praising his leadership in the media
That IS true. I liked Weston, but we could definitely do better. I wonder who would want to come to URI next season. Not a very attractive place rn

I kind of alluded to this idea earlier in the season. I think a lot of people just assume with the portal that you can rebuild quickly, but I'm starting to feel that it makes rebuilds tougher. It feels like if your program is in a lane it's so much harder to get out of that lane, especially to improve. Players might stick on an A10 program doing well that's expected to continue to do well the following year, but who wants to be a part of an A10 rebuild, especially if you're a role player?

It feels like we need something to really shock the system and change things. I thought Archie himself was enough, but so far he hasn't been. It feels like we need our high end boosters to really pony up for a greatly improved roster to get us out of the lane/rut we're in and get us pointed back to the top

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:31 pm**

Down to 9 and at least 2 more leaving is my guess.

Would like it to be 8 since Luis is likely to leave.

Any less than 8 remaining will make it tough to bring all quality talent.

That NIL fund better be growing fast!

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:34 pm**

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago
rhodyram22 wrote: ↑2 months ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 months ago

For the first year and a half I agree. It seemed things had turned a corner with him getting a bigger role and Miller praising his leadership in the media
That IS true. I liked Weston, but we could definitely do better. I wonder who would want to come to URI next season. Not a very attractive place rn
I kind of alluded to this idea earlier in the season. I think a lot of people just assume with the portal that you can rebuild quickly, but I'm starting to feel that it makes rebuilds tougher. It feels like if your program is in a lane it's so much harder to get out of that lane, especially to improve. Players might stick on an A10 program doing well that's expected to continue to do well the following year, but who wants to be a part of an A10 rebuild, especially if you're a role player?

It feels like we need something to really shock the system and change things. I thought Archie himself was enough, but so far he hasn't been. It feels like we need our high end boosters to really pony up for a greatly improved roster to get us out of the lane/rut we're in and get us pointed back to the top

Yeah, you've gotta be a serious team to get serious players. Or our boosters can use NIL to pretty much buy some guys.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:41 pm**

I know the portal and NIL has made it tough for mid-majors but it's disappointing that a staff that was supposed to be strong recruiting has missed so often.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:47 pm**

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑2 months ago I know the portal and NIL has made it tough for mid-majors but it's disappointing that a staff that was supposed to be strong recruiting has missed so often.

I wonder if you gave the staff truth serum what they'd say about the guys they've brought in so far. How many did they bring in and met or exceeded expectations? How many guys did they simply bring in as cannon fodder because they needed to complete a roster and if they exceeded expectations than great.

How many of the misses were truly misses vs just roster filler?

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:57 pm**

RR2, that's a great point.

My guess is, some of them were roster filler due to the sheer number of players needed, along with the fact there wasnt enough money to offer them.

Could be facing the same issue this off season, depending on the number needed again to fill the roster.

Whatever happens, the need for at least 2-3 high level transfers has never been more important.

Might take another year after that for enough money to become available to bring in enough talent to at least contend for the top of the league.

Of course even with enough money to spend, just how good is this staff at evaluating and recruiting?

Just having money doesn't guarantee squat for sure.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:58 pm**

Only minor surprise so far is Weston. But for the most part so far I just see a chance to get better.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:03 pm**

If what I saw on twitter that KJ might be leaving, there's probably a chance that both Hammond and Farrell decommit. I think it was BAR that posted it, so it's someone who knows, not someone just throwing shit out there.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:05 pm**

rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 months ago RR2, that's a great point.

My guess is, some of them were roster filler due to the sheer number of players needed, along with the fact there wasnt enough money to offer them.

Could be facing the same issue this off season, depending on the number needed again to fill the roster.

Whatever happens, the need for at least 2-3 high level transfers has never been more important.

Might take another year after that for enough money to become available to bring in enough talent to at least contend for the top of the league.

I strongly suspect NILflation. Sure a million might look like a good budget now. How long before it isn't enough?

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:05 pm**

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:11 pm**

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 months ago If what I saw on twitter that KJ might be leaving, there's probably a chance that both Hammond and Farrell decommit. I think it was BAR that posted it, so it's someone who knows, not someone just throwing shit out there.

This account has been pretty reliable in the past.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:17 pm**

Wait what

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:20 pm**

As I said in the past: Kenny Johnson is likely marketing himself and bringing Hammond and Farrell with him.

We might be starting from scratch entirely

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:22 pm**

Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago As I said in the past: Kenny Johnson is likely marketing himself and bringing Hammond and Farrell with him.

We might be starting from scratch entirely

Isn't he making like $450k a year? Marketing for what? A HC job?

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:23 pm**

From Trilly’s Discord…

Samurai Sources tell The Dojo…Kenny Johnson is engaged in talks with Georgetown about their open AC spot

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:23 pm**

Kenny leaving wouldn't surprise me. I always kind of assumed we'd be a quick stop over for him to rehab his image and get back to somewhere bigger.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:24 pm**

theblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago
Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago As I said in the past: Kenny Johnson is likely marketing himself and bringing Hammond and Farrell with him.

We might be starting from scratch entirely
Isn't he making like $450k a year? Marketing for what? A HC job?

A bigger program. Likely St Johns

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:27 pm**

Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago
theblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago
Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago As I said in the past: Kenny Johnson is likely marketing himself and bringing Hammond and Farrell with him.

We might be starting from scratch entirely
Isn't he making like $450k a year? Marketing for what? A HC job?
A bigger program. Likely St Johns

Or Georgetown

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:27 pm**

Pitino added that St. John's will not play in the NIT if they are invited.

"I feel if we're gonna move forward, most of our time now needs to be spent recruiting because we're probably gonna have to bring in seven or eight new players," the head coach said about turning down a postseason invite. "Preparing for the NIT does not help our future. Now if it was a normal year – we'd only have to bring in three players, four players, then I think it would be beneficial. If you had a lot of young players that you wanted to further develop.

"But right now, we're in a situation where we gotta replace a lot of players."

https://sports.yahoo.com/st-johns-misse ... n%20invite.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:28 pm**

Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago
theblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago
Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago As I said in the past: Kenny Johnson is likely marketing himself and bringing Hammond and Farrell with him.

We might be starting from scratch entirely
Isn't he making like $450k a year? Marketing for what? A HC job?
A bigger program. Likely St Johns

Yeah, that's not going to happen...

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:28 pm**

Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago
theblueram wrote: ↑2 months ago
Section104 wrote: ↑2 months ago As I said in the past: Kenny Johnson is likely marketing himself and bringing Hammond and Farrell with him.

We might be starting from scratch entirely
Isn't he making like $450k a year? Marketing for what? A HC job?
A bigger program. Likely St Johns

Some buzz on twitter about Georgetown. You know he'll land big time DMV recruits for them.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:32 pm**

adam914 wrote: ↑2 months ago Kenny leaving wouldn't surprise me. I always kind of assumed we'd be a quick stop over for him to rehab his image and get back to somewhere bigger.

I had discussed this possibility with some posters off the board several weeks ago.
The Louisville situation is behind him, and his show-cause expires very shortly.

Hope he stays but with all the assistant coach openings a lot can happen.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:32 pm**

Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Kenny will not be joining Pitino's staff again. Just a reminder...

https://www.leoweekly.com/news/rick-pit ... an%20Bowen.

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:56 pm**

Yeah losing Kenny and our recruits is no Bueno.........

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:02 pm**

If we lose are only two recruits I’ll be livid. This is an insane situation. How are we ever going to build a program??

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:07 pm**

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 months ago
Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 months ago Dubs just entered the portal.
Just another reason its kind of pointless to get all worked up over recruits.

People were all pumped he got offered by K State and Maryland. Obviously was offered by those schools as the last game on the bench.

He couldn't break the rotation on a 12-20 A10 team.

Agree. Can we tap the brakes on the recruiting hype?

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:09 pm**

How can you tap the brakes on the recruiting hype

when that is THE ONLY THING to get excited about around here these days?

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:12 pm**

Ugh sucks about Kenny possibly leaving , but it makes sense for him to be a top recruiter for a P5 school and not a middling mid major like us

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