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SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

do not like! But, that’s a good job for a first time head coach.

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

Wow, that seems like a kind of bizarre decision, coming off a 20-12 year. He was an associate head coach at Villanova before taking the Quinnipiac job, according to his bio there. It's probably not a huge pay difference either way, though. He's married to the daughter of Villanova great Tom Ingelsby, so between that and his years as a coach there, probably some deep ties to the program in play.

ace wrote: ↑1 year ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

do not like! But, that’s a good job for a first time head coach.

Kimani?

ace wrote: ↑1 year ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

do not like! But, that’s a good job for a first time head coach.

There could be more to the Dunleavy move:

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

Ashley Howard was in a similar role at Villanova last year. If you connect the dots, it looks like he might be back as an assistant coach since one of theirs got the Buffalo job.

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

Bloat among the coaching ranks is always something safe to bet on. Alabama football is up to 10 assistant coaches, for example.

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

ding ding ding, baby! Here we go!

More of a Luke Murray type job.

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

ding ding ding, baby! Here we go!

You called it NYG_208

How long will it take for the GM's to have a transfer portal? etc etc etc

Interesting, Dunleavy dad Mike long time player and coach and brother Mike from Duke and long time NBA career

Makes a lot of sense for one of the UConn assistants especially Luke M

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

ding ding ding, baby! Here we go!

Solid call (need a job?)

Sr Stealth Train Coordinator

Present UConn assistant coach Tom Moore was once the head coach at Quinnipiac several years back. I wonder whether he could orchestrate a coworker getting the head job of a New England D1 school he was formerly employed at a second time.

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

There we have it. The first GM of college basketball. LOL.

Duke has something similar. I think more programs will follow suit. There now needs to be someone responsible for linkage between staff and Collectives. The money coming from the collectives, roster decisions from the coach, and someone in the middle making it all happen. The more the NcAA doesn’t put guardrails around it the more unwieldy it becomes and makes it impossible for a HC to lead while also trying to lead the program.

SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

Bloat among the coaching ranks is always something safe to bet on. Alabama football is up to 10 assistant coaches, for example.

Is this actually a lot, though? Without doing any research I’d have guessed that all BCS football programs have a DC, an OC, a STC, and position group coaches for d-line, linebackers, DBs, o-line, QBs, RBs and receivers - which by my count is 10 right there and that’s before you even get to the semi-BS assistant positions (quality control, etc.), and it’s not counting the strength staff which are usually at least called “coaches”, and we’ve had recruiting coordinator type roles for a decade and I’m sure that’s only grown now that roster building has changed so much. If someone said a college football team had 30 coaches I wouldn’t be that surprised.

theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

There we have it. The first GM of college basketball. LOL.

I think he’s in charge of Nova womens team also I love it

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I know a few people here said eventually a lot of teams would have a GM type role.

ding ding ding, baby! Here we go!

You called it NYG_208

theblueram may have been first, but it's been obvious for quite a while.

RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago Present UConn assistant coach Tom Moore was once the head coach at Quinnipiac several years back. I wonder whether he could orchestrate a coworker getting the head job of a New England D1 school he was formerly employed at a second time.

I would say, if he were in the position and wanted to...'yes', easily.

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago

ding ding ding, baby! Here we go!

You called it NYG_208

theblueram may have been first, but it's been obvious for quite a while.

Really good call guys , makes too much sense in this new landscape especially P6 in hoops

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 year ago

RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago Present UConn assistant coach Tom Moore was once the head coach at Quinnipiac several years back. I wonder whether he could orchestrate a coworker getting the head job of a New England D1 school he was formerly employed at a second time.

I would say, if he were in the position and wanted to...'yes', easily.

Moore got fired so I don't know if he has much of a relationship with AD.

Cooley raids PC,English raids George Mason, George Mason raids ???

https://www.golocalprov.com/sports/cool ... wed-back-2

Quinnipiac promoted Tom Pecora. Not sure about that move.

Yeah UConn Assistants probably can wait until the next cycle to get better jobs I guess

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑1 year ago Quinnipiac promoted Tom Pecora. Not sure about that move.

Another one from the Fordham coaching tree!

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

Both Snyder and Brey were there in 88 when we lost by 1

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

Not sure if Cox will get another opportunity to be the head guy anywhere, he’d probably have to take a pay cut if he wanted to try it in a small conference compared to what an associate head coach would make at a place like Maryland. But he’s undoubtedly a good and valuable guy on a staff. Happy for him.

TruePoint wrote: ↑1 year ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

Not sure if Cox will get another opportunity to be the head guy anywhere, he’d probably have to take a pay cut if he wanted to try it in a small conference compared to what an associate head coach would make at a place like Maryland. But he’s undoubtedly a good and valuable guy on a staff. Happy for him.

Yeah there's things you can learn and things you can't.

I just don't think DC has it in him to be a lead guy.

He's an invaluable top assistant though - as top level coaches have constantly sought to keep him happy on their staff.

He's probably too nice to be in the #1 chair tbh. But he's a great balance for hardasses like Hurley and Willard - probably a great sounding board for a lot of kids, and probably helps calm those top guys down as well.

Yeah nothing wrong with being a lead assistant in a really good program I’m sure the money is fine and the pressure isn’t as great

Derek Kellogg going the same route

Blue Man wrote: ↑1 year ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑1 year ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

Not sure if Cox will get another opportunity to be the head guy anywhere, he’d probably have to take a pay cut if he wanted to try it in a small conference compared to what an associate head coach would make at a place like Maryland. But he’s undoubtedly a good and valuable guy on a staff. Happy for him.

Yeah there's things you can learn and things you can't.

I just don't think DC has it in him to be a lead guy.

He's an invaluable top assistant though - as top level coaches have constantly sought to keep him happy on their staff.

He's probably too nice to be in the #1 chair tbh. But he's a great balance for hardasses like Hurley and Willard - probably a great sounding board for a lot of kids, and probably helps calm those top guys down as well.

Cox is a smart guy so it's possible he learned lessons from being the head guy. Most notably: you can't let the inmates run the prison.

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

Hold on, this can't be true. Rhody72 was telling us he was out of a job with the old Dematha coach coming aboard, now he is promoted to Associate Head Coach? Idiot.

Cox is not the first assistant coach that failed when promoted to the Head Coaching chair nor will he be the last. But he is very good assistant coach and did a good job in that role here as well. And a great guy, happy for him.

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Blue Man wrote: ↑1 year ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑1 year ago

Not sure if Cox will get another opportunity to be the head guy anywhere, he’d probably have to take a pay cut if he wanted to try it in a small conference compared to what an associate head coach would make at a place like Maryland. But he’s undoubtedly a good and valuable guy on a staff. Happy for him.

Yeah there's things you can learn and things you can't.

I just don't think DC has it in him to be a lead guy.

He's an invaluable top assistant though - as top level coaches have constantly sought to keep him happy on their staff.

He's probably too nice to be in the #1 chair tbh. But he's a great balance for hardasses like Hurley and Willard - probably a great sounding board for a lot of kids, and probably helps calm those top guys down as well.

Cox is a smart guy so it's possible he learned lessons from being the head guy. Most notably: you can't let the inmates run the prison.

Very true. And maybe if he came from the outside instead of getting promoted from within it might be an easier transition the next time.

But I think who Dave is - he cares a lot about his recruits and likes to be involved on the ground level with them in the process. i think that's what he likes most about the job. I don't think he could ever be a head guy and separate himself from that - but that's the clear distinction between being a head guy and being an assistant.

I'm not knocking him for it - he's great at what he does. Like I know myself - I've always taken jobs that maximize what I'm good at and like to do, and minimize the stuff outside of that. I think for Dave - making $400k+ per year doing what you love is a pretty solid living. Add on to that the $3-4+ mil he made here and I'm sure the Cox household is pretty happy.

Who knows what could happen 5 years down the road maybe he wants to take a head job @ a lower D1 program ??

lol

What?!

I have no words.

steviep123 wrote: ↑1 year ago I have no words.

I do..."shrug man emoji"....
New prez, she wants to fix some costs for budgeting purposes + doesn't care about basketball?

Good lord that we be like us extending Cox

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago lol

I guess they have a lot of young players returning. Still should have just kept Martelli.

I don't think it was crazy that St. Joe's moved on from Martelli, but Lange has been pretty uninspiring so far. Erik Reynolds is the real deal though, and Cam Brown is coming back for a fifth year, so I suppose you can make the argument that you "need" to extend him, and maybe have a legit shot at succeeding next year. I kind of wonder if it's just a two-year extension though, with the second year non-guaranteed.

Four years at the helm and the best he's been able to do in the A-10 has been 8-10.

Yeah very surprising, was his contract combing to an end or something??

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago Four years at the helm and the best he's been able to do in the A-10 has been 8-10.

Year
1: 6-26 (2-16)
2: 5-15 (2-9)
3: 11-19 (5-13)
4: 16-17 (8-10)

So he has gone from 2,2,5,8 A10 Conference Wins

This year was his most wins. Got 10th Seed in Barclay Tournament

St Joe beat 15-seed Loyola 72-67
Greer 22p, 10r, 5a
Brown 16p, 6r
Reynolds 13p, 2r, 6a
Winborne 16p, 8-9 FTs

St Joe beat 7-seed GW 87-76
Greer 14p, 3R, 4a
Brown 18p, 7r
Reynolds 34p, 6r, 4a, 12-12 FTs

St Joe lost to 2-seed Dayton in Quarterfinals in a tight game 54-60
Greer 9p, 4R, 5a
Brown 6p, 9r, 2a
Reynolds 19p, 1r, 3a
Winborne 9p, 4-4 FTs

Camara had a monster game for Dayton 17p, 18r, 3-4 3Ps

St Joseph's after last season lost Taylor Funk to Utah State to play his 6th year
Also lost Jordan Hall after his Soph year to NBA - he played 9 games with San Antonio Spurs

Greer, Brown, Reynolds (Named to A10 All Tournament Team at Barclays) and Freshman Winborne all return for 2023-24. Starter Rasheer Fleming 6'9" Freshman Starter also returns.

In addition:

• Shawn Simmons II Freshman who enrolled early in January and practiced with the team. Maybe highest ranked incoming freshman in A10. Averaged 14ppg with EYBL Team Durant

• Christ Essandoko 7' 285lb originally committed to PC but decommitted from PC and went to St Josephs

• Dasaer Haskins 6'6" 10p, 4.7r, 1.7a played for Roman Catholic (23-3) in Philly.

St Joseph's is building with local Philly talent. Lynn Greer transferred back home to Philly from Dayton.

Returning starters plus some talented incoming Philly Freshman for 2023-24.

Billy Lange incoming player news:

• Shawn Simmons II Freshman who enrolled early in January and practiced with the team. Maybe highest ranked incoming freshman in A10. Averaged 14ppg with EYBL Team Durant

• Christ Essandoko 7' 285lb originally committed to PC but decommitted from PC and went to St Josephs

• Dasaer Haskins 6'6" 10p, 4.7r, 1.7a played for Roman Catholic (23-3) in Philly.

Said on CBS Broadcast of the Iverson Classic
“Haskins is part of the outstanding recruiting class that Billy Lange has coming in at St. Joe’s.”


From Iverson Classic - Dasear Haskins shines on his home floor one last time

Will this put Huggy on the hot seat?

https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/bob-hu ... -slur.html