Week #11 - Games of Interest

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 4 years ago

Go SLU!

Better for the A-10 if they win.

Share the wealth Dayton!

Great game.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 4 years ago

Overtime is like Dayton's kryptonite.

wpbrown8267 · Unread post by **wpbrown8267** » 4 years ago

French vs Cyril

Can’t wait to see that, talk about a heavyweight bout

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 4 years ago

Toppin just got called for a flop (not a foul - 1st is a warning).

That’s a new rule this year.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

Come on Dayton

I don’t want SLU stealing our bid

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

Wow — ##0 cost Dayton this game w the choke FTs and the lame defense

rhodyruckus · Unread post by **rhodyruckus** » 4 years ago

Exciting game!

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 4 years ago

steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years ago Toppin just got called for a flop (not a foul - 1st is a warning).

That’s a new rule this year.

Edit - it’s not a foul at all. The 2nd flop by any player results in a 1 shot tech. I don’t know if the warning is for both teams or if the 2nd team gets a free pass on their first pass.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

HACK A FRENCH

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

HACK FRENXH PLS

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

BS CALL THERE

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

I told them to
Hack French

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

BANG !!!

YEASSSS

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

WOW

DAYTONNWINS !

RhodyRam86 · Unread post by **RhodyRam86** » 4 years ago

Unbelievable! Better for A 10 if SLU won. Better for URI that Dayton won!

I care about URI first and the A 10 a distant second.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 4 years ago

Holy cow!!!

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

I BLEED KEANEY BLUE !

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

I always root for Rhody over a10

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Wow. One crazy finish. Interesting that Toppin didn’t get one shot in OT.

rhodyruckus · Unread post by **rhodyruckus** » 4 years ago

Just wow, great finish. It was kind of a soft foul on Dayton but they negated it on the court.

wpbrown8267 · Unread post by **wpbrown8267** » 4 years ago

What.a.game

Holy shit

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 4 years ago

What an ending! SLU hits 2 free throws to take a 1 point lead with 6.1 secs left. Crutcher races up the court and nails ac3 with .1 secs for the 2 point OT win.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 4 years ago

That was an incredible game. I only caught the OT, but Toppin was either completely gassed or his ankle was still bothering him. He had 20 & 10 in regulation so not sure how hurt he could have been, but he didn’t seem to want the ball and also didn’t appear to be moving very well. Crutcher was super tough, though. I think it was definitely good for Rhody for Dayton to hang on.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 4 years ago

This Conference is pretty good. That's for sure.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 4 years ago

SLU winning would be better for Rhody because we also play them and it would make them a better win! C'mon this stuff ain't that hard to figure out.

They wouldn't be stealing a bid if they turned into another marquee win for us.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 4 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago SLU winning would be better for Rhody because we also play them and it would make them a better win! C'mon this stuff ain't that hard to figure out.

They wouldn't be stealing a bid if they turned into another marquee win for us.

SLU losing is actually better for us since we want to win the A10 regular season.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 4 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago SLU winning would be better for Rhody because we also play them and it would make them a better win! C'mon this stuff ain't that hard to figure out.

They wouldn't be stealing a bid if they turned into another marquee win for us.

I don’t think so. One, we play Dayton twice and SLU once so just from a numbers standpoint the better they are the better our schedule. Two, I think URI has a shot to beat them once and want that win to be as good as possible. Three, it has to be the goal for URI to finish second in the conference so want VCU, SLU, Richmond, Duquesne, Bonnies etc to lose some games. Four, we absolutely could be competing with SLU for a bid and not sure you want them to have this one in their pocket.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 4 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑4 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago SLU winning would be better for Rhody because we also play them and it would make them a better win! C'mon this stuff ain't that hard to figure out.

They wouldn't be stealing a bid if they turned into another marquee win for us.
SLU losing is actually better for us since we want to win the A10 regular season.

Not sure about this, either. If you think URI can win the regular season, would need Dayton to lose at some point. I don’t think it is realistic to expect to finish first assuming Dayton stays healthy.

RhodyRam86 · Unread post by **RhodyRam86** » 4 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago SLU winning would be better for Rhody because we also play them and it would make them a better win! C'mon this stuff ain't that hard to figure out.

They wouldn't be stealing a bid if they turned into another marquee win for us.

I think we need to be top two in the conference to be very comfortable. Top 3 in the conference and we better have a great A 10 tournament. SLU losing tonight gives us a better chance to come in second.

Unless SLU finishes 15-3 in conference they were never going to be a “marquis” win for us at home. They will be nothing more than a Quad 2 win.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 4 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑4 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago SLU winning would be better for Rhody because we also play them and it would make them a better win! C'mon this stuff ain't that hard to figure out.

They wouldn't be stealing a bid if they turned into another marquee win for us.
SLU losing is actually better for us since we want to win the A10 regular season.

As far as I'm concerned we are still trying to have a quality tournament resume. Beating a tournament level SLU team would go along well with making that happen. Assuming we take care of business.

We want the higher level teams to fare well against the lower level teams in the conference so that when we play those higher level teams and beat them it helps us out even more.

How would we not want this?

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 4 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑4 years ago
theblueram wrote: ↑4 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago SLU winning would be better for Rhody because we also play them and it would make them a better win! C'mon this stuff ain't that hard to figure out.

They wouldn't be stealing a bid if they turned into another marquee win for us.
SLU losing is actually better for us since we want to win the A10 regular season.
Not sure about this, either. If you think URI can win the regular season, would need Dayton to lose at some point. I don’t think it is realistic to expect to finish first assuming Dayton stays healthy.

They can lose to VCU. That would work.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

This is why it was good Dayton won.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 4 years ago

ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑4 years ago I always root for Rhody over a10

...who in their right mind would cheer for a conference over their favorite team??

Cheering for Rhody over the A10 should go without saying.

RhodyRam86 · Unread post by **RhodyRam86** » 4 years ago

Yup...I don’t want teams that could be on the bubble with us picking up big wins like this would have been for SLU.

If you assume Dayton is a lock and VCU is likely in...how many teams do you expect in from the A10? Four is not likely. So, like TP said, I don’t want SLU, Bonnies, Richmond, etc, picking up quality wins and battling us for that 3rd Spot. Not as worried about VCU because if we beat them twice and make a strong conference showing, we could bump them out.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

No way slu win is better for Rhody

We need to beat them in the standings for a bid

Way to go Dayton !

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 4 years ago

I think Dayton winning was best for us. It was already mentioned but Dayton represents 2 Q1 opportunities for us - home and away. They need to stay top 25 NET for Q1 at home, so I'd much rather the opportunity to beat a better Dayton team 2x.

We only get SLU at home and if they had won that or not they aren't breaking 25. Plus I'd like URI to be the 2/3 seed in Brooklyn. This gives us a little wiggle room against some competition there.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 4 years ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 years ago
ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑4 years ago I always root for Rhody over a10
...who in their right mind would cheer for a conference over their favorite team??

Cheering for Rhody over the A10 should go without saying.

I was replying to a post above mine

luke · Unread post by **luke** » 4 years ago

Great win by Dayton , what a comeback in the second half . They had just a horrible first half reminiscent of the ST. Joes game , but fought
through it just as URI did . Quite a bit of help IMO from the officials for St. Louis ( 37 fts for SLU , 19 for Dayton ) I thought the flop call on Obie was bogus. There was hard contact on the play , probably an offensive foul on SLU . I see that type of play all the time this season without any flop
warning . They allowed so much contact in this game they should have been wearing shoulder pads and helmets .

RhodyRam86 · Unread post by **RhodyRam86** » 4 years ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 years ago
ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑4 years ago I always root for Rhody over a10
...who in their right mind would cheer for a conference over their favorite team??

Cheering for Rhody over the A10 should go without saying.

Someone else, I think PeterRamTime, mentioned an SLU win would be good for the A10. While I agree with that, it seems everyone here, except PRT, thinks the Dayton won will be better for URI in the long run. Anyway, I think it was PRT’s post that ECR was referring to.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Definitely great that Dayton won that game for URI

Still pissed my under 137.5 lost on that layup by SLU to force OT

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 4 years ago

It's not rooting for the conference over URI.

Its rooting for what sets up best for URI.

Dayton would be a Q1 win for us regardless of if they lost this game.

No way they fall out of the NET top 25 overall.

SLU now is a worse potential win and worse potential loss while Dayton will end up with basically the same NET even if they lost tonight.

Everyone talks about Q1 wins and Q2 wins, but at the end of the day if that Q2 SLU win turns into a win over a team that clinches a tournament appearance then it matters more.

Like, Alabama on selection Sunday could still be a Q2 win, but if they are selected to go to the tournament thay automatically becomes a win over a tournament team therefore, that particular Q2 win would carry more weight than a Q2 win over an NIT Duquesne win.

We want to beat a tournament bound SLU team as opposed to an NIT bound SLU team.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago It's not rooting for the conference over URI.

Its rooting for what sets up best for URI.

Dayton would be a Q1 win for us regardless of if they lost this game.

No way they fall out of the NET top 25 overall.

SLU now is a worse potential win and worse potential loss while Dayton will end up with basically the same NET even if they lost tonight.

Everyone talks about Q1 wins and Q2 wins, but at the end of the day if that Q2 SLU win turns into a win over a team that clinches a tournament appearance then it matters more.

Like, Alabama on selection Sunday could still be a Q2 win, but if they are selected to go to the tournament thay automatically becomes a win over a tournament team therefore, that particular Q2 win would carry more weight than a Q2 win over an NIT Duquesne win.

We want to beat a tournament bound SLU team as opposed to an NIT bound SLU team.

If 20 out of 20 people tell you that you are wrong, you usually are wrong

You are fixated on getting another Q1 opportunity. That is not the only thing the Selection Committee looks at. Your comment that you want to beat a SLU Tournament team is counterproductive. If SLU makes the Tournament the odds of URI also making it are very slim. The A10 is a 2 or 3 bid league. Dayton is a guarantee. If you add SLU to that it gets very difficult for URI. Could be the only 2 bids; someone else could win A10T, VCU, Duquesne or Richmond could get a 3rd bid.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Man what a game...French is quite the FT shooter isn't he?

Dayton was fortunate, but I was hoping they'd win so good for that.

Obi tweaked his ankle late, he seemed to be limping slightly in the OT.

St. Louis is pretty good though...we could be fighting them for a bid....beating them here is a must win imo.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 4 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago It's not rooting for the conference over URI.

Its rooting for what sets up best for URI.

Dayton would be a Q1 win for us regardless of if they lost this game.

No way they fall out of the NET top 25 overall.

SLU now is a worse potential win and worse potential loss while Dayton will end up with basically the same NET even if they lost tonight.

Everyone talks about Q1 wins and Q2 wins, but at the end of the day if that Q2 SLU win turns into a win over a team that clinches a tournament appearance then it matters more.

Like, Alabama on selection Sunday could still be a Q2 win, but if they are selected to go to the tournament thay automatically becomes a win over a tournament team therefore, that particular Q2 win would carry more weight than a Q2 win over an NIT Duquesne win.

We want to beat a tournament bound SLU team as opposed to an NIT bound SLU team.

1. The idea that a loss won’t impact Dayton’s NET but a win would boost SLU’s makes no sense. Further, before today’s game SLU was #51 in NET and Dayton was #6, which makes Dayton closer to falling out of the top-25 than SLU is to falling out of the top-75.

2. If SLU is goes to the NCAA tournament, URI is not. A win over a tournament-bound SLU team or not, there is almost no way that the A10 gets 4 bids.

RhodyRam86 · Unread post by **RhodyRam86** » 4 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago It's not rooting for the conference over URI.

Its rooting for what sets up best for URI.

Dayton would be a Q1 win for us regardless of if they lost this game.

No way they fall out of the NET top 25 overall.

SLU now is a worse potential win and worse potential loss while Dayton will end up with basically the same NET even if they lost tonight.

Everyone talks about Q1 wins and Q2 wins, but at the end of the day if that Q2 SLU win turns into a win over a team that clinches a tournament appearance then it matters more.

Like, Alabama on selection Sunday could still be a Q2 win, but if they are selected to go to the tournament thay automatically becomes a win over a tournament team therefore, that particular Q2 win would carry more weight than a Q2 win over an NIT Duquesne win.

We want to beat a tournament bound SLU team as opposed to an NIT bound SLU team.

You do realize that only a finite number of teams make the tournament right? If SLU clinched a spot, well that’s one spot we’re not getting. If Alabama clinched a spot, there’s another we’re not getting. Auburn and Dayton are in. We’re not jumping them so two more spots we’re not getting. I get what your saying, but you need to be rooting for URI to finish as high as possible in the A10. SLU winning tonight is contrary to that wish. SLU would be a Q2 opponent when they come to the RC whether they won or lost tonight. They were never going to be a “marquis” win. They’re just another of many wins we need to have.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 4 years ago

It would barely effect their NET and who the hell else other than us and maybe VCU can beat them?

How low our NET is also comes into play as well so the higher NETs we play and beat the better.

It's not impossible for 4 teams to make the dance in the A-10.

The ACC is trending towards 4 to 5. I know the big ten is taking a lot of those but so can the A-10.

Are you also saying we dont want Alabama to become a tournament team?

If us Bama and SLU are tournament teams then why should we have to worry about them knocking us out since we would have similar NET rankings and we BEAT them?

Dont forget the selection committee also grades you on how you do against the field and if we only beat two teams in the field I don't think that helps as much as four.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

to win the conference...don't you need teams with better records to lose?

RhodyRam86 · Unread post by **RhodyRam86** » 4 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago It would barely effect their NET and who the hell else other than us and maybe VCU can beat them?

How low our NET is also comes into play as well so the higher NETs we play and beat the better.

It's not impossible for 4 teams to make the dance in the A-10.

The ACC is trending towards 4 to 5. I know the big ten is taking a lot of those but so can the A-10.

Are you also saying we dont want Alabama to become a tournament team?

If us Bama and SLU are tournament teams then why should we have to worry about them knocking us out since we would have similar NET rankings and we BEAT them?

Dont forget the selection committee also grades you on how you do against the field and if we only beat two teams in the field I don't think that helps as much as four.

I want Alabama to win, but as I mentioned in another thread, if it comes dow to us and Alabama for the last Spot, the committee could look at Alabama beating Auburn as a bigger win for them than us beating Alabama at home is for us. It’s a little more difficult to see how things will play out with Alabama.

Now your saying the A10 could get 4 teams. That would be the max and I wouldn’t bet on it. Dayton is one. VCU has an inside track on another (despite their loss to us, they are currently in and we aren’t). You want SLU to win tonight and have them in. That’s 3. So now you have us fighting for the long shot 4th bid. What about Richmond? They beat us. And what if some other team wins the A10 tourney.

EVERYONE on this board is disagreeing with you. I know people like TP and Blue Man are much smarter than me about this stuff and they disagree with you too.

Continue to cheer for other A10 teams to beat Dayton. Your rooting interest won’t effect the outcomes of the games or URI’s chances of dancing.

RhodyRam86 · Unread post by **RhodyRam86** » 4 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago to win the conference...don't you need teams with better records to lose?

NYG—-if someone told you right now URI is guaranteed to come in second place in the conference or they can play it out and let the chips fall where they may (maybe they come in first, maybe they come in sixth), what would you take?

There is a much better chance that URI finishes 3rd or worse than there is a chance that they win the conference. I would be elated finishing second to Dayton.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 4 years ago

RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑4 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago It would barely effect their NET and who the hell else other than us and maybe VCU can beat them?

How low our NET is also comes into play as well so the higher NETs we play and beat the better.

It's not impossible for 4 teams to make the dance in the A-10.

The ACC is trending towards 4 to 5. I know the big ten is taking a lot of those but so can the A-10.

Are you also saying we dont want Alabama to become a tournament team?

If us Bama and SLU are tournament teams then why should we have to worry about them knocking us out since we would have similar NET rankings and we BEAT them?

Dont forget the selection committee also grades you on how you do against the field and if we only beat two teams in the field I don't think that helps as much as four.

I want Alabama to win, but as I mentioned in another thread, if it comes dow to us and Alabama for the last Spot, the committee could look at Alabama beating Auburn as a bigger win for them than us beating Alabama at home is for us. It’s a little more difficult to see how things will play out with Alabama.

Now your saying the A10 could get 4 teams. That would be the max and I wouldn’t bet on it. Dayton is one. VCU has an inside track on another (despite their loss to us, they are currently in and we aren’t). You want SLU to win tonight and have them in. That’s 3. So now you have us fighting for the long shot 4th bid. What about Richmond? They beat us. And what if some other team wins the A10 tourney.

EVERYONE on this board is disagreeing with you. I know people like TP and Blue Man are much smarter than me about this stuff and they disagree with you too.

Continue to cheer for other A10 teams to beat Dayton. Your rooting interest won’t effect the outcomes of the games or URI’s chances of dancing.

URI making it with the max amount of teams in the A-10 making it is what I want.

I'm not even saying what I'm rooting for is that realistic. I just want Rhody and as many A-10 teams to make it as possible.

The A-10 gets revenue from it which is funneled back into the leagues teams and the more strong programs in the league the better for us for recruiting purposes and future chances at marquee win during the conference season.

I felt that SLU winning would go towards the already slim possibility of four teams making the tournament, but uh yeah they have a steeper hill to climb than we do now for sure.

Probably dont deserve it with their earth shatteringly bad free throw shooting.