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Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

I would guess Tony Skinn will be the odds-on favorite to be the next HC of GM.

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago English has potential and will recruit well, but he’s coaching against:
Hurley
Miller
Rick Pitino
Cooley
McDermott (unless he goes to ND)
Holloway
Shaka Smart
Thad Matta

I’d say he has a slight edge on Stubblefield and close to Kyle Neptune.

This is a tough job to learn on the fly.

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago English has potential and will recruit well, but he’s coaching against:
Hurley
Miller
Rick Pitino
Cooley
McDermott (unless he goes to ND)
Holloway
Shaka Smart
Thad Matta

I’d say he has a slight edge on Stubblefield and close to Kyle Neptune.

This is a tough job to learn on the fly.

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago English has potential and will recruit well, but he’s coaching against:
Hurley
Miller
Rick Pitino
Cooley
McDermott (unless he goes to ND)
Holloway
Shaka Smart
Thad Matta

I’d say he has a slight edge on Stubblefield and close to Kyle Neptune.

This is a tough job to learn on the fly.

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago Yet Morey says this...

rhodyfan3 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Has this been posted already today? Anyone seen this?

daytonflyerfan wrote: ↑1 year ago

rhodyfan3 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Has this been posted already today? Anyone seen this?

What is the story here? This was reported on the 11pm local sports news in Ohio. Did Archie interview with PC?

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago English has potential and will recruit well, but he’s coaching against:
Hurley
Miller
Rick Pitino
Cooley
McDermott (unless he goes to ND)
Holloway
Shaka Smart
Thad Matta

I’d say he has a slight edge on Stubblefield and close to Kyle Neptune.

This is a tough job to learn on the fly.

theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago Doesn't surprise me one bit. It's why I haven't gone to a URI game at Providence for like 20 years.

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑1 year ago

I would guess Tony Skinn will be the odds-on favorite to be the next HC of GM.

Hopefully Kevin Willard doesnt come after Woodward if he loses Skinn.

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago English has potential and will recruit well, but he’s coaching against:
Hurley
Miller
Rick Pitino
Cooley
McDermott (unless he goes to ND)
Holloway
Shaka Smart
Thad Matta

I’d say he has a slight edge on Stubblefield and close to Kyle Neptune.

This is a tough job to learn on the fly.

Very tough. Add a traumatized fanbase with high expectations coming off their longest streak of success ever.

Blue Man wrote: ↑1 year ago

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago

I would guess Tony Skinn will be the odds-on favorite to be the next HC of GM.

Hopefully Kevin Willard doesnt come after Woodward if he loses Skinn.

Woodward would never work for Willard again.

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago English has potential and will recruit well, but he’s coaching against:
Hurley
Miller
Rick Pitino
Cooley
McDermott (unless he goes to ND)
Holloway
Shaka Smart
Thad Matta

I’d say he has a slight edge on Stubblefield and close to Kyle Neptune.

This is a tough job to learn on the fly.

Very tough. Add a traumatized fanbase with high expectations coming off their longest streak of success ever.

Last HC Friars had who left them for a better job was Pete Gillen who went to Virginia in 1998 - 25 years ago. Tim Walsh and Keno Davis both got fired after Gillen.
So it's understandable that PC fans are distraught - thry are not used to being left at the alter.
But most people never thought Cooley would leave, even after the bread crumbs were leading more and more to him leaving.

Time heals all wounds. Cooley will be fine and will very likely flourish at Georgetown. Kim English will have his hands full but he is capable - Good choice. But, PC fans really wanted Pitino. Sounds like Sicard nixed the idea of Pitino from reading their board.

Transition could have been handled better by PC and Cooley but I think Cooley made an excellent move for him, his family and Georgetown. This change was never going to be pretty.

Funny how on the PC board some who supported Cooley #whoducken and criticized me for trashing Cooley over dropping the URI-PC game are now some of the lead bashers of Cooley on their board.
Cooley didn't want the game because of scheduling challenges, but then filled the URI spot with FDU. Same 16-seed FDU that just bounced 1-seed Big 10 Purdue.
Cooley had the classic, memorable comment "the road to the NCAA doesn't run through Kingston RI".

The basketball world turns

steviep123 wrote: ↑1 year ago

steviep123 wrote: ↑1 year ago

KingstonLane wrote: ↑1 year ago A lot of chatter of Kim English to PC

Seems like a bad hire for many reasons. Hard to imagine any good outcome of him going there

1) he’s even better than advertised. World beater recruiter and coach. PC is then just a stepping stone to a top 10-20 job in the next 3-5 years and you’re back where you started

2) he sucks. No offense to Kim English but he hasn’t exactly earned the job yet.

3) PC middles in mediocrity and English sticks around through it all

Really trying to see how this works out positively for them and just can’t. They’d be better hiring a proven coach later in his career that maybe has less ambition to use them to find an even bigger gig after the fact

steviep123 wrote: ↑1 year ago

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago Very tough. Add a traumatized fanbase with high expectations coming off their longest streak of success ever.

Last HC Friars had who left them for a better job was Pete Gillen who went to Virginia in 1998 - 25 years ago. Tim Walsh and Keno Davis both got fired after Gillen.
So it's understandable that PC fans are distraught - thry are not used to being left at the alter.

Some notes on the above:

Last HC Friars had who left them for a better job was Pete Gillen who went to Virginia in 1998 - 25 years ago. Tim Walsh and Keno Davis both got fired after Gillen.
So it's understandable that PC fans are distraught - thry are not used to being left at the alter.

Great point - Gillen left for Virginia, and before that Barnes left for Clemson. After that, it was PC doing the leaving until now, so it's been a while.

KingstonLane wrote: ↑1 year ago

KingstonLane wrote: ↑1 year ago A lot of chatter of Kim English to PC

Seems like a bad hire for many reasons. Hard to imagine any good outcome of him going there

1) he’s even better than advertised. World beater recruiter and coach. PC is then just a stepping stone to a top 10-20 job in the next 3-5 years and you’re back where you started

2) he sucks. No offense to Kim English but he hasn’t exactly earned the job yet.

3) PC middles in mediocrity and English sticks around through it all

Really trying to see how this works out positively for them and just can’t. They’d be better hiring a proven coach later in his career that maybe has less ambition to use them to find an even bigger gig after the fact

Sticking to this take. Don’t see how it works out for PC

RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago I am a bit surprised that PC could not do much better for their new head coach considering where their program is at this time (7 NCAA's in last decade). Kim English has just two years experience in a down A-10 and his resume is rather mediocre. It would seem that he and his supporters (such as Rick Barnes) have done a really good job of selling him. Based on his lackluster head coaching career to date, it would seem he is mostly being hired based on his potential upside. There is risk with such a hire. He might prove to be a good coach. This could however take some time or might not ever happen. We shall see.


Kim English Record at GMU
SEASON | OVERALL | A-10
2021-22 | 14-16 | 7-9 (9th)
2022-23 | 20-13 | 11-7 (5th)
TOTAL | 34-29 | 18-16

A-10 Tournament Record: 1-2
Early Season MTE Tournament Record: 0-6

George Mason fired his predecessor Dave Paulsen for going 95-91 in six seasons when the A-10 was a much stronger league.

Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago

RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago I am a bit surprised that PC could not do much better for their new head coach considering where their program is at this time (7 NCAA's in last decade). Kim English has just two years experience in a down A-10 and his resume is rather mediocre. It would seem that he and his supporters (such as Rick Barnes) have done a really good job of selling him. Based on his lackluster head coaching career to date, it would seem he is mostly being hired based on his potential upside. There is risk with such a hire. He might prove to be a good coach. This could however take some time or might not ever happen. We shall see.


Kim English Record at GMU
SEASON | OVERALL | A-10
2021-22 | 14-16 | 7-9 (9th)
2022-23 | 20-13 | 11-7 (5th)
TOTAL | 34-29 | 18-16

A-10 Tournament Record: 1-2
Early Season MTE Tournament Record: 0-6

George Mason fired his predecessor Dave Paulsen for going 95-91 in six seasons when the A-10 was a much stronger league.

Yes RF1, kind of a head scratcher.
I like Kim English and thought GM was a good spot for him.

There were several other more seasoned, successful candidates out there, but I guess PC wanted to go with youth and felt he was the best fit for them.

I think it could be a long ugly ride for PC, good for them.

Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago

RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago I am a bit surprised that PC could not do much better for their new head coach considering where their program is at this time (7 NCAA's in last decade). Kim English has just two years experience in a down A-10 and his resume is rather mediocre. It would seem that he and his supporters (such as Rick Barnes) have done a really good job of selling him. Based on his lackluster head coaching career to date, it would seem he is mostly being hired based on his potential upside. There is risk with such a hire. He might prove to be a good coach. This could however take some time or might not ever happen. We shall see.


Kim English Record at GMU
SEASON | OVERALL | A-10
2021-22 | 14-16 | 7-9 (9th)
2022-23 | 20-13 | 11-7 (5th)
TOTAL | 34-29 | 18-16

A-10 Tournament Record: 1-2
Early Season MTE Tournament Record: 0-6

George Mason fired his predecessor Dave Paulsen for going 95-91 in six seasons when the A-10 was a much stronger league.

Yes RF1, kind of a head scratcher.
I like Kim English and thought GM was a good spot for him.

There were several other more seasoned, successful candidates out there, but I guess PC wanted to go with youth and felt he was the best fit for them.

I think it could be a long ugly ride for PC, good for them.

Section104 wrote: ↑1 year ago This is an important 1-2 years for PC. Also for URI, obviously, but I think PC is trying to avoid what happened to us during the David Cox years.

Kim English is an unknown. He, historically, has recruited well and can relate to players. He needs to get immediate buy-in from Devin Carter and Bryce Hopkins. Get them to stick around and you're in a nice position - not that wildly different than Cox having Fatts Russell, Jeff Dowtin, and Cyril Langevine as holdovers from Dan's NCAA team.

Then comes the hard part. As we saw with David Cox - just because you have proven talent doesn't mean you can win.

Once that talent leaves, and success was not continued, recruiting becomes harder. You have deflections and you lose your core guys. Then you have to start taking chances on individuals with red flags (Mitchell Twins).

Keep on winning and the recruiting takes care of itself. Culture is continued. The program can maintain the trajectory.

That's harder to do in the Big East than the A10. To win in the Big East you need Big East guys AND you need to know how to coach.

Time will tell if he can recruit and coach at this level.

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago

Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago

RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago I am a bit surprised that PC could not do much better for their new head coach considering where their program is at this time (7 NCAA's in last decade). Kim English has just two years experience in a down A-10 and his resume is rather mediocre. It would seem that he and his supporters (such as Rick Barnes) have done a really good job of selling him. Based on his lackluster head coaching career to date, it would seem he is mostly being hired based on his potential upside. There is risk with such a hire. He might prove to be a good coach. This could however take some time or might not ever happen. We shall see.


Kim English Record at GMU
SEASON | OVERALL | A-10
2021-22 | 14-16 | 7-9 (9th)
2022-23 | 20-13 | 11-7 (5th)
TOTAL | 34-29 | 18-16

A-10 Tournament Record: 1-2
Early Season MTE Tournament Record: 0-6

George Mason fired his predecessor Dave Paulsen for going 95-91 in six seasons when the A-10 was a much stronger league.

Yes RF1, kind of a head scratcher.
I like Kim English and thought GM was a good spot for him.

There were several other more seasoned, successful candidates out there, but I guess PC wanted to go with youth and felt he was the best fit for them.

I think it could be a long ugly ride for PC, good for them.

Who were the others? Who did you like instead of English?

ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago

Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago

RF1 wrote: ↑1 year ago I am a bit surprised that PC could not do much better for their new head coach considering where their program is at this time (7 NCAA's in last decade). Kim English has just two years experience in a down A-10 and his resume is rather mediocre. It would seem that he and his supporters (such as Rick Barnes) have done a really good job of selling him. Based on his lackluster head coaching career to date, it would seem he is mostly being hired based on his potential upside. There is risk with such a hire. He might prove to be a good coach. This could however take some time or might not ever happen. We shall see.


Kim English Record at GMU
SEASON | OVERALL | A-10
2021-22 | 14-16 | 7-9 (9th)
2022-23 | 20-13 | 11-7 (5th)
TOTAL | 34-29 | 18-16

A-10 Tournament Record: 1-2
Early Season MTE Tournament Record: 0-6

George Mason fired his predecessor Dave Paulsen for going 95-91 in six seasons when the A-10 was a much stronger league.

Yes RF1, kind of a head scratcher.
I like Kim English and thought GM was a good spot for him.

There were several other more seasoned, successful candidates out there, but I guess PC wanted to go with youth and felt he was the best fit for them.

I think it could be a long ugly ride for PC, good for them.

Who were the others? Who did you like instead of English?

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago Oh man that Cooley press conference had to sting. He kept advancing the notion that at Gtown (not PC) you compete for championships. This could be the biggest zero F’s given in the history of coaching departures.

This couldn’t have worked out better for Rhody which is all I care about. Count me in the camp of people who think English could struggle. He feels like a “safe hire” bc they can message a similar track record as what worked with Cooley. Young and on the rise, ability to connect with players, maintain the swag Cooley brought there etc. I think he is going to be in over his skis against the gauntlet of coaches in that league and it will take him time to learn on the job. How much patience will a reeling and pissed off fanbase have?

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago Oh man that Cooley press conference had to sting. He kept advancing the notion that at Gtown (not PC) you compete for championships. This could be the biggest zero F’s given in the history of coaching departures.

This couldn’t have worked out better for Rhody which is all I care about. Count me in the camp of people who think English could struggle. He feels like a “safe hire” bc they can message a similar track record as what worked with Cooley. Young and on the rise, ability to connect with players, maintain the swag Cooley brought there etc. I think he is going to be in over his skis against the gauntlet of coaches in that league and it will take him time to learn on the job. How much patience will a reeling and pissed off fanbase have?

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑1 year ago Is English even official yet?