Re: 2023-24 Rotation
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:27 pm
Yeah , Big Fou definitely deserves to start over Tyson
SGreenwell wrote: ↑5 months agoIn his meager playing time with practically no defensive attention on him, Dubsky is shooting 30 percent. His per-40 stats, he's averaging 5.3 fouls and 9.5 attempts from 3. There isn't much to suggest that he's a good option on offense, except that he enjoys shooting. Occasionally, guys like this will manage to hit a couple shots in a single game, which then leads to a clamor that they absolutely need to play more.rhodylaw wrote: ↑5 months agoI guess that’s the point - defense kind of sucks, may as well go for some offenseBillyboy78 wrote: ↑5 months ago
Unfortunately there are 2 ends to the floor. Archie would have to change his defense. Then again, there aren't many on the team playing it well now, so it probably wouldn't hurt to play them.
As of now, Dubsky looks like the latest manifestation of the Matthew Butler or Rory Stewart or Greg Hammond Syndrome, wherein a guy with a reputation for shooting seems like a tantalizing option solely because he's not playing. (On the women's side this year, also see Eva DeChent.) I suspect he's not playing because the guys that are playing are obviously better during practice, and that he either needs to get a lot better to play here or to transfer down.
That’s my starting lineup also then find 4 reserves for a rotation of 9Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 months ago A few things....looks like Weston is out along with Rory and Dubsky. I would love to see Bilau get lots of minutes, but I'm afraid his knee is going to prevent him from getting them. Even after warmups, there was a large ice pack on his right knee. Could be a chronic problem. Does Green start next Wednesday? If he can currently handle 30+ minutes, he should get them.Who would he replace. Interesting in crunch time today, Green was in and Zeke was on the bench (several turnovers again). know Ways started, but he only played 8 minutes. Luis still gets the majority of minutes there. Now that the games really count and considering what I saw today, I predict the starting lineup on Wednesday will be Kortright, House, Estevez, Green and Fuchs.
BW probably needs to really step it up in practice , it’s hard to get back in the rotation once you are out of itSandorClegane wrote: ↑5 months ago I would swap Ways for Weston in the rotation. Still think we need more scoring. I know a lot of people are down on BW, but I don’t see him out of the rotation permanently. Archie’s rotations have perplexed me this year thus far. We’ll see if he starts to be more consistent during the start of A10s.
I like that lineup to start also and maybe Zek can get going off the bench , we need him playing like he did the first few games of the yearBlue Man wrote: ↑5 months ago Right now - Luis/Cam/House/Green/Fuchs gives us the best chance to win until Bilau is fully healthy.
I think Cam needs to be in the game, he's too much of a sparkplug and clearly our best deep threat. House goes from cold to hot instantly and can take over in spurts.
Zek off the bench offers a lot of flexibility and can change things for us offensively. Last night showed that Weston is the guy you go to if you need a defensive pop. In 12 mins he had a Drtg of 94. That's the reason we came on strong down the stretch.
It's good to have so many good defenders on the bench. Will help us come back in games.
That is the line up Miller started the 2nd half with last night:reef wrote: ↑5 months agoI like that lineup to start also and maybe Zek can get going off the bench , we need him playing like he did the first few games of the yearBlue Man wrote: ↑5 months ago Right now - Luis/Cam/House/Green/Fuchs gives us the best chance to win until Bilau is fully healthy.
I think Cam needs to be in the game, he's too much of a sparkplug and clearly our best deep threat. House goes from cold to hot instantly and can take over in spurts.
Zek off the bench offers a lot of flexibility and can change things for us offensively. Last night showed that Weston is the guy you go to if you need a defensive pop. In 12 mins he had a Drtg of 94. That's the reason we came on strong down the stretch.
It's good to have so many good defenders on the bench. Will help us come back in games.
I think we’ve always been a good shooting team - there’s ebbs and flows across a season.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago I was looking at some stats for our 3 A10 games, particularly 3 point shooting. Luis is at 43% (6-14), Green at 45 % (5-11), House at 46% (6-13) and Cam at 50% (8-16). The only one struggling is Zek at 11 % (1-9). Are we suddenly becoming a pretty good shooting team?
1st 9 games we went with the same line up of House, Montgomery, Kortright, Fuchs and BrownBlue Man wrote: ↑4 months agoI think we’ve always been a good shooting team - there’s ebbs and flows across a season.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago I was looking at some stats for our 3 A10 games, particularly 3 point shooting. Luis is at 43% (6-14), Green at 45 % (5-11), House at 46% (6-13) and Cam at 50% (8-16). The only one struggling is Zek at 11 % (1-9). Are we suddenly becoming a pretty good shooting team?
Weston started out shooting like 80% as well. Top to bottom this is probably the best collection of shooters this team has ever put together.
How many times can you ever remember having 4 guys on the floor where you say “I don’t mind him shooting that” - ever?
Because I can’t think of any team that had more than 3.
I had no issue wit EC, Jared, Dowtin, Garrett shooting 3s during the 2017/2018 season.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months agoI think we’ve always been a good shooting team - there’s ebbs and flows across a season.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago I was looking at some stats for our 3 A10 games, particularly 3 point shooting. Luis is at 43% (6-14), Green at 45 % (5-11), House at 46% (6-13) and Cam at 50% (8-16). The only one struggling is Zek at 11 % (1-9). Are we suddenly becoming a pretty good shooting team?
Weston started out shooting like 80% as well. Top to bottom this is probably the best collection of shooters this team has ever put together.
How many times can you ever remember having 4 guys on the floor where you say “I don’t mind him shooting that” - ever?
Because I can’t think of any team that had more than 3.
Jared's the only one who shot over 40%. EC shot 32%.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoI had no issue wit EC, Jared, Dowtin, Garrett shooting 3s during the 2017/2018 season.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months agoI think we’ve always been a good shooting team - there’s ebbs and flows across a season.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago I was looking at some stats for our 3 A10 games, particularly 3 point shooting. Luis is at 43% (6-14), Green at 45 % (5-11), House at 46% (6-13) and Cam at 50% (8-16). The only one struggling is Zek at 11 % (1-9). Are we suddenly becoming a pretty good shooting team?
Weston started out shooting like 80% as well. Top to bottom this is probably the best collection of shooters this team has ever put together.
How many times can you ever remember having 4 guys on the floor where you say “I don’t mind him shooting that” - ever?
Because I can’t think of any team that had more than 3.
The best shooting team was 97-98, you had: Wheeler, Mobley, Murphy, and King.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoJared's the only one who shot over 40%. EC shot 32%.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoI had no issue wit EC, Jared, Dowtin, Garrett shooting 3s during the 2017/2018 season.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago
I think we’ve always been a good shooting team - there’s ebbs and flows across a season.
Weston started out shooting like 80% as well. Top to bottom this is probably the best collection of shooters this team has ever put together.
How many times can you ever remember having 4 guys on the floor where you say “I don’t mind him shooting that” - ever?
Because I can’t think of any team that had more than 3.
I know you go way back. What about Sly, Jiggy, Stanley and John Nelson?Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months agoThe best shooting team was 97-98, you had: Wheeler, Mobley, Murphy, and King.
Sly could do everything,Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoI know you go way back. What about Sly, Jiggy, Stanley and John Nelson?
If you're judging our current players by for the first three conference games, then you have to do that for the 2017/2018 team.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoJared's the only one who shot over 40%. EC shot 32%.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoI had no issue wit EC, Jared, Dowtin, Garrett shooting 3s during the 2017/2018 season.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago
I think we’ve always been a good shooting team - there’s ebbs and flows across a season.
Weston started out shooting like 80% as well. Top to bottom this is probably the best collection of shooters this team has ever put together.
How many times can you ever remember having 4 guys on the floor where you say “I don’t mind him shooting that” - ever?
Because I can’t think of any team that had more than 3.
What I like about this is that IU fans hate Archie and say that none of his teams could shoot.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months agoI think we’ve always been a good shooting team - there’s ebbs and flows across a season.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago I was looking at some stats for our 3 A10 games, particularly 3 point shooting. Luis is at 43% (6-14), Green at 45 % (5-11), House at 46% (6-13) and Cam at 50% (8-16). The only one struggling is Zek at 11 % (1-9). Are we suddenly becoming a pretty good shooting team?
Weston started out shooting like 80% as well. Top to bottom this is probably the best collection of shooters this team has ever put together.
How many times can you ever remember having 4 guys on the floor where you say “I don’t mind him shooting that” - ever?
Because I can’t think of any team that had more than 3.
But they could all shoot, from what I remember. It was before the 3 point shot, but their FG %s were.....Sly 54%, Nelson 54%, Jiggy 53% and Stan 49%.Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months agoSly could do everything,Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoI know you go way back. What about Sly, Jiggy, Stanley and John Nelson?
Jiggy was much more of a penetrator and distributor.
Wright did most of his damage inside, but he did occasionally take the outside shot when available.
Nelson could shoot.
Fair point. We'll see what it looks like going forward.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoIf you're judging our current players by for the first three conference games, then you have to do that for the 2017/2018 team.
With that small sample size, EC shot 50%, Dowtin should 60%, Jared shot 50% during the first three games. Jarvis shot 13% but ended the season at 38%.
Blue Man said have we ever had 4 guys where you say "I don't mind him shooting that."
I don't think many of us at all minded any of those 4 studs shooting 3's that season.
Sorry should've clarified - starting lineup. It's rare that 1-4 you have good shooters starting and on the floor at the same time.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoIf you're judging our current players by for the first three conference games, then you have to do that for the 2017/2018 team.
With that small sample size, EC shot 50%, Dowtin should 60%, Jared shot 50% during the first three games. Jarvis shot 13% but ended the season at 38%.
Blue Man said have we ever had 4 guys where you say "I don't mind him shooting that."
I don't think many of us at all minded any of those 4 studs shooting 3's that season.
He would be iceee cold.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months agoSorry should've clarified - starting lineup. It's rare that 1-4 you have good shooters starting and on the floor at the same time.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoIf you're judging our current players by for the first three conference games, then you have to do that for the 2017/2018 team.
With that small sample size, EC shot 50%, Dowtin should 60%, Jared shot 50% during the first three games. Jarvis shot 13% but ended the season at 38%.
Blue Man said have we ever had 4 guys where you say "I don't mind him shooting that."
I don't think many of us at all minded any of those 4 studs shooting 3's that season.
That said, I was probably the loudest who didn't want EC shooting 3's. Ever. Elbert was easily the best left handed slasher and finisher we ever had at URI. It was absurd how quickly and shiftily he could get to the basket and score in traffic. Why he would settle for a low percentage shot instead of leaning into what he was legitimately the best player at on the floor, is beyond me.
EC's "big shot" in the tournament was one in the minority of those type of shots he hit in his career. Not a knock on him as an overall URI great, because he was, but he shouldn't have shot as many 3's as he did.
Name one other than cinci and Oklahoma
It’s not a knock to say that wasn’t his game. Because it wasn’t.
That kin tape appeared on his shoulder and he’s been off ever since. He’s gotta be hurt.
Every player goes through aches and pains through the course of a season. If he was unable to perform and truly injured Archie wouldn’t play him. Besides he must be medically cleared. Yeah he may be a little banged up but still.
His performance is also now officially at the point where you have to sit him and let him heal, if that's the case. No point in playing him if he's shooting so poorly and not really contributing that much otherwise.Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months agoEvery player goes through aches and pains through the course of a season. If he was unable to perform and truly injured Archie wouldn’t play him. Besides he must be medically cleared. Yeah he may be a little banged up but still.
Yeah I can’t recall a guy falling off a Cliff like that , I hope he can turn it around
Yup.
Who cares bro with that graphic. That so called extremely talented core just got blown out on their home court by our team who had been struggling the worst they have all season. They played awful defense and their offense was even worse.
I’ve watched Buchanan multiple times this season.sevegny7 wrote: ↑4 months agoWho cares bro with that graphic. That so called extremely talented core just got blown out on their home court by our team who had been struggling the worst they have all season. They played awful defense and their offense was even worse.
Not to mention the NIL and Transfer portal era. Likely that the core does not stay together for GW.
Statistics and actually winning games and making winning plays are two different things. When you actually watch GW play they are not good. It is pretty clear. Maybe they have decent individual stats but as a collective team they are not good as proven on Tuesday and during Conf play.
Also GW is not deep what so ever so they rely on playing those young guys major minutes. And you are comparing their stats compared to other good A10 who do not need to rely on their freshman as much.
You really do seem like the guy that looks at the boxscore and scan to points to determine how good a player is.
I still feel we will keep enough core pieces to make that big jump next season.SGreenwell wrote: ↑4 months ago I'd obviously like to keep Estevez, but there's a pretty huge gulf between the top three in that table and everyone else. I think he's got a good future ahead of him, but I think as more of a solid or plus regular, not an All-Conference type of player. If he wanted to transfer after this year, it would probably be to a lateral or worse program.
I kind of think this is the case for everyone on our roster, though. We don't have a Leggett-like star that's going to garner attention from a power conference. If guys are transferring, it'll probably be because its not a fit here, or because they want more minutes, like Thomas is getting at Albany and how Hutchinson and Tchikou and others attempted to transfer down for more playing time.
Bucanon of GW looks really good ! Can they keep him ?