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Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑2 years ago

RoadyJay wrote: ↑2 years ago Is it time to rent a billboard?

Start the go fund me.

gorhody89 wrote: ↑2 years ago Jim Baron can coach circles around this clown. But hey I hope they had fun

rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Anybody that can walk and chew gum at the same time will be an upgrade.

If this wasn't so sad, it would be hilarious.

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Cox blamed the loss on fatigue. Someone asked why Carey didn't play in the first half and asked if it was disciplinary. Cox said no, coach's decision. Maybe giving him a few minutes in the first half could have helped with the fatigue? Nothing this guy says makes any sense.

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Cox blamed the loss on fatigue. Someone asked why Carey didn't play in the first half and asked if it was disciplinary. Cox said no, coach's decision. Maybe giving him a few minutes in the first half could have helped with the fatigue? Nothing this guy says makes any sense.

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago Maybe play walker for more than 20 mins?

LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago so, I met Tyler Burton's dad after the game at a local restaurant. Asked him why Tyler didn't stay local (he's from Uxbridgde, MA) and consider URI...his response was "Ask David Cox"...BTW, he is the leading scorer in the A10!

So what's that about Cox's recruiting ability??

reef wrote: ↑2 years ago Jeez part of the process and you gotta give them credit it’s Baron all over again . I do think Baron was a better coach than Cox

Makes no sense to not give Jalen some minutes in the 1st half without Shep available

Cox has to be gone end of season

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago

reef wrote: ↑2 years ago Jeez part of the process and you gotta give them credit it’s Baron all over again . I do think Baron was a better coach than Cox

Makes no sense to not give Jalen some minutes in the 1st half without Shep available

Cox has to be gone end of season

He certainly had a better philosophy I.e. let’s have an actual point guard, and for the most part didn’t get in their way at least. Minus the Will Daniels incident I don’t ever remember having an issue with the team’s minutes distribution.

Barons cluelessness didn’t prevent the players from playing to their strengths. It certainly didn’t help them, but disorganized streetball with the best players on the court was better than this.

Baron certainly didn’t promise certain kids minutes and then allow them to do whatever.

This is real bad.

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago

reef wrote: ↑2 years ago Jeez part of the process and you gotta give them credit it’s Baron all over again . I do think Baron was a better coach than Cox

Makes no sense to not give Jalen some minutes in the 1st half without Shep available

Cox has to be gone end of season

He certainly had a better philosophy I.e. let’s have an actual point guard, and for the most part didn’t get in their way at least. Minus the Will Daniels incident I don’t ever remember having an issue with the team’s minutes distribution.

Barons cluelessness didn’t prevent the players from playing to their strengths. It certainly didn’t help them, but disorganized streetball with the best players on the court was better than this.

Baron certainly didn’t promise certain kids minutes and then allow them to do whatever.

This is real bad.

Eh, I think "time heals all wounds," in this case. Baron's time distribution skills and evaluation of guys on the roster were both pretty bad. Off the top of my head... There was the yo-yoing of Jon Clark's minutes (starting him each half, playing 3 minutes, then benched the rest of the game), choosing Clark over Chris Holm, not playing his better players enough minutes (Hazelton, Daniels, Delroy James never broke 30 MPG on his watch), recruiting or playing smaller PGs who couldn't shoot (Tyrese Sullivan, Mejia, Mike Powell)...

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago

He certainly had a better philosophy I.e. let’s have an actual point guard, and for the most part didn’t get in their way at least. Minus the Will Daniels incident I don’t ever remember having an issue with the team’s minutes distribution.

Barons cluelessness didn’t prevent the players from playing to their strengths. It certainly didn’t help them, but disorganized streetball with the best players on the court was better than this.

Baron certainly didn’t promise certain kids minutes and then allow them to do whatever.

This is real bad.

Eh, I think "time heals all wounds," in this case. Baron's time distribution skills and evaluation of guys on the roster were both pretty bad. Off the top of my head... There was the yo-yoing of Jon Clark's minutes (starting him each half, playing 3 minutes, then benched the rest of the game), choosing Clark over Chris Holm, not playing his better players enough minutes (Hazelton, Daniels, Delroy James never broke 30 MPG on his watch), recruiting or playing smaller PGs who couldn't shoot (Tyrese Sullivan, Mejia, Mike Powell)...

Sorry toddler sleep regression and early morning post.

Duh - Chris holm/Jon Clark was the most egregious.

Many others. At this point I’ve blocked it all out.

I’ll take a lap. Bad post.

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago

Eh, I think "time heals all wounds," in this case. Baron's time distribution skills and evaluation of guys on the roster were both pretty bad. Off the top of my head... There was the yo-yoing of Jon Clark's minutes (starting him each half, playing 3 minutes, then benched the rest of the game), choosing Clark over Chris Holm, not playing his better players enough minutes (Hazelton, Daniels, Delroy James never broke 30 MPG on his watch), recruiting or playing smaller PGs who couldn't shoot (Tyrese Sullivan, Mejia, Mike Powell)...

Sorry toddler sleep regression and early morning post.

Duh - Chris holm/Jon Clark was the most egregious.

Many others. At this point I’ve blocked it all out.

I’ll take a lap. Bad post.

Ha, no worries! It's kind of interesting how they're coming to the same result here, in a way, with entirely different methods. Baron actually recruited quite a few All-A10 level players, or sired them... but he often struggled to evaluate the talent he had on the roster, and to allot minutes properly as a result, or to use something like advanced statistics to guide him. Baron also struggled with depth on the roster.

In contrast, Cox has pretty good talent up and down the roster - like, Jalen Carey has holes in his game, but his equivalent in the Baron years was someone like Andre Malone, who was forced into starting - but lacks a true blue chipper or two to build the team around. He's also not making an egregious playing time decision - it's not like Walker is logging DNPs - but a bunch of decisions on the edges of the roster are adding up.

BlackDogRants wrote: ↑2 years ago It was a couple pages back regarding Pitino... We had our shot with him. A friend who runs Mercedes Benz White Plains (where Rick and the Iona AHC's get cars) told me per Rick himself, Iona is his last stop. He is going to build the program up to be a perennial contender, the quote "Gonzaga of the East" was used again... and then retire. He wants this to be his last challenge and accomplishment.

Smokinjimit2 wrote: ↑2 years ago Maybe he’s tanking the season so we get a good draft pick?

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago Baron certainly didn’t promise certain kids minutes and then allow them to do whatever.

Rhodygirl2 wrote: ↑2 years ago Note he didn’t just hit bingo on “it’s all part of the process” he dropped multiple “you gotta give them credit”. Nearly drove off the road. Didn’t seem disappointed with loss and didn’t seem to have a clue as to why they lost.

Agree wholeheartedly with my fellow 205er who turned around in the last minute of the game and said —- It’s like he’s trying to lose.

Rhodygirl2 wrote: ↑2 years ago Note he didn’t just hit bingo on “it’s all part of the process” he dropped multiple “you gotta give them credit”. Nearly drove off the road. Didn’t seem disappointed with loss and didn’t seem to have a clue as to why they lost.

Agree wholeheartedly with my fellow 205er who turned around in the last minute of the game and said —- It’s like he’s trying to lose.

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago I am NOT happy with those post game comments and I am one of the few on here who have been giving Cox a longer leash. Last night we dominated for 3/4 of the game and got beat out by Richmond’s more experienced players and better adjustments. I still think the tools are there for this team to win those games, THE COACH needs to acknowledge that and publicly call out the team and himself to finish those games.

Putting Thomas on Gilyard all night was a great move, until the last 5 mins when he ran out of gas. We needed to spell Thomas earlier when we had the lead. I was there last night and you could see him physically wearing down in the second half during breaks in the action. It was clear from the 200s.

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago I am NOT happy with those post game comments and I am one of the few on here who have been giving Cox a longer leash. Last night we dominated for 3/4 of the game and got beat out by Richmond’s more experienced players and better adjustments. I still think the tools are there for this team to win those games, THE COACH needs to acknowledge that and publicly call out the team and himself to finish those games.

Putting Thomas on Gilyard all night was a great move, until the last 5 mins when he ran out of gas. We needed to spell Thomas earlier when we had the lead. I was there last night and you could see him physically wearing down in the second half during breaks in the action. It was clear from the 200s.

Rhodygirl2 wrote: ↑2 years ago Didn’t seem disappointed with loss and didn’t seem to have a clue as to why they lost.

Agree wholeheartedly with my fellow 205er who turned around in the last minute of the game and said —- It’s like he’s trying to lose.

LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago so, I met Tyler Burton's dad after the game at a local restaurant. Asked him why Tyler didn't stay local (he's from Uxbridgde, MA) and consider URI...his response was "Ask David Cox"...BTW, he is the leading scorer in the A10!

So what's that about Cox's recruiting ability??

rhodyrudder wrote: ↑2 years ago

Rhodygirl2 wrote: ↑2 years ago Didn’t seem disappointed with loss and didn’t seem to have a clue as to why they lost.

Agree wholeheartedly with my fellow 205er who turned around in the last minute of the game and said —- It’s like he’s trying to lose.

The presser was unbelievable!
Show some fire, man.
Act like you care about winning for Pete's sake!

"I'm going to look at the tape and see if we can figure some things out."

WHAT?!?!?

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago Baron certainly didn’t promise certain kids minutes and then allow them to do whatever.

Been thinking about this specifically. We all know David Cox is a great person, as many here have discussed. Maybe he's *too* good of a person. He had discussions with recruits and he's staying true to his word in spite of his own job security. This is really the only way I can explain when I'm seeing.

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago Baron certainly didn’t promise certain kids minutes and then allow them to do whatever.

Been thinking about this specifically. We all know David Cox is a great person, as many here have discussed. Maybe he's *too* good of a person. He had discussions with recruits and he's staying true to his word in spite of his own job security. This is really the only way I can explain when I'm seeing.

I'm critical of Cox, but I kind of doubt he's actually promised the Mitchells that they'll play a certain amount of time each game, or before them, that Fatts "forced" him to play him constantly. Whether we're talking basketball coaches, or the manager at your work, or your buddy stuck in a relationship, there is a kind of natural inertia that causes inaction. I think it's way more rare to have a coach like Belichick who's judging almost solely on production. And, because URI is *almost* winning all of these games, it makes a lineup change less likely - There's probably the thought that you just need to make some adjustments in practice, that we just need to shoot 500 free throws, vs. saying "these players are probably what they are," and benching one of the Mitchells for Walker.

section(105) wrote: ↑2 years ago

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago I am NOT happy with those post game comments and I am one of the few on here who have been giving Cox a longer leash. Last night we dominated for 3/4 of the game and got beat out by Richmond’s more experienced players and better adjustments. I still think the tools are there for this team to win those games, THE COACH needs to acknowledge that and publicly call out the team and himself to finish those games.

Putting Thomas on Gilyard all night was a great move, until the last 5 mins when he ran out of gas. We needed to spell Thomas earlier when we had the lead. I was there last night and you could see him physically wearing down in the second half during breaks in the action. It was clear from the 200s.

…….gotta ask, after last night; is your leash, shorter, even longer, the same……..?
…….would the Coach giving the standard…….”I have to coach better, the players have to play better……”work for you?

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago

Been thinking about this specifically. We all know David Cox is a great person, as many here have discussed. Maybe he's *too* good of a person. He had discussions with recruits and he's staying true to his word in spite of his own job security. This is really the only way I can explain when I'm seeing.

I'm critical of Cox, but I kind of doubt he's actually promised the Mitchells that they'll play a certain amount of time each game, or before them, that Fatts "forced" him to play him constantly. Whether we're talking basketball coaches, or the manager at your work, or your buddy stuck in a relationship, there is a kind of natural inertia that causes inaction. I think it's way more rare to have a coach like Belichick who's judging almost solely on production. And, because URI is *almost* winning all of these games, it makes a lineup change less likely - There's probably the thought that you just need to make some adjustments in practice, that we just need to shoot 500 free throws, vs. saying "these players are probably what they are," and benching one of the Mitchells for Walker.

Probably didn't promise them X amount of minutes per game, but definitely told them they'd both start and play substantial minutes each game.

The only reason they came here, and not other places, is because they were told they both would start. And then it becomes tough to bench one, because word then gets around Cox is a liar who doesn't keep his word, further hurting recruiting chances.

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago

Been thinking about this specifically. We all know David Cox is a great person, as many here have discussed. Maybe he's *too* good of a person. He had discussions with recruits and he's staying true to his word in spite of his own job security. This is really the only way I can explain when I'm seeing.

I'm critical of Cox, but I kind of doubt he's actually promised the Mitchells that they'll play a certain amount of time each game, or before them, that Fatts "forced" him to play him constantly. Whether we're talking basketball coaches, or the manager at your work, or your buddy stuck in a relationship, there is a kind of natural inertia that causes inaction. I think it's way more rare to have a coach like Belichick who's judging almost solely on production. And, because URI is *almost* winning all of these games, it makes a lineup change less likely - There's probably the thought that you just need to make some adjustments in practice, that we just need to shoot 500 free throws, vs. saying "these players are probably what they are," and benching one of the Mitchells for Walker.

Probably didn't promise them X amount of minutes per game, but definitely told them they'd both start and play substantial minutes each game.

The only reason they came here, and not other places, is because they were told they both would start. And then it becomes tough to bench one, because word then gets around Cox is a liar who doesn't keep his word, further hurting recruiting chances.

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago

section(105) wrote: ↑2 years ago

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago I am NOT happy with those post game comments and I am one of the few on here who have been giving Cox a longer leash. Last night we dominated for 3/4 of the game and got beat out by Richmond’s more experienced players and better adjustments. I still think the tools are there for this team to win those games, THE COACH needs to acknowledge that and publicly call out the team and himself to finish those games.

Putting Thomas on Gilyard all night was a great move, until the last 5 mins when he ran out of gas. We needed to spell Thomas earlier when we had the lead. I was there last night and you could see him physically wearing down in the second half during breaks in the action. It was clear from the 200s.

…….gotta ask, after last night; is your leash, shorter, even longer, the same……..?
…….would the Coach giving the standard…….”I have to coach better, the players have to play better……”work for you?

Shorter...look, I expected games like last night (and all the losses so far) coming into this season. We have a good group of players, skilled, athletic and we can win in the A10. We need to learn how to win games in the last 5 minutes, that comes with experience and we are playing against some teams/players/coaches who have been together now for 5 years. That said, you will not learn to win these games if your mindset after the game is it was "fun to compete out there" - not going to get it done. I know he is a players coach and is not going to call out the players publicly. That's fine. The team and the Coach need to be devastated by the loss though. Accepting losing is not acceptable and that is what it looks like from the outside. I would take the stupid cliche coach speak over that nonsense.

This season, from the beginning, was about getting the program to a winning state by the A10 tournament. The Defense is there. The offense is clunky at times but better then it was last year. What is missing is the will to win games at the end.