Re: 3/5 | Saint Joseph’s | 2:30PM (USA)
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:38 pm
This game means a lot.
We're capable of losing to much worse teams.
I feel like Jerry D was worse, mostly because he actually had some really talented players.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago Oh my god we are a joke. I feel bad to laugh but my god this is worst coached team I’ve watched since I’ve been a fan. I was a kid when Jerry D coached so I don’t really remember. Jim Baron would coach circles around Cox
Jim Baron looks like John wooden or Coach k next to David Cox. And he was a very nice guy toosteveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago Oh my god we are a joke. I feel bad to laugh but my god this is worst coached team I’ve watched since I’ve been a fan. I was a kid when Jerry D coached so I don’t really remember. Jim Baron would coach circles around Cox
I actually think they will be back under the new coach , they are probably pissed off at Cox that they lost their starting job why would they transfer again ??
Let’s hope so. I think they can succeed under the right system. Our guards and coach need to drastically improve next year if we want to be competitive again.
It's so sad. They are pretty much taller and more athletic than everyone in the league and they refuse to play to their strengths.ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Mitchells shot 26% from the field (6/23). That'a a LOT of missed shots from very tall, athletic bigs in this league, against that team. Wow they're bad.
They definitely show talent at times just so darn undisciplined and poor foul shooters as well as turnover pronePeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years agoIt's so sad. They are pretty much taller and more athletic than everyone in the league and they refuse to play to their strengths.ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Mitchells shot 26% from the field (6/23). That'a a LOT of missed shots from very tall, athletic bigs in this league, against that team. Wow they're bad.
Gotta blame a lot of that on Cox
Like Makhel was way better last year. Cox is just throwing up his hands and letting them do whatever. Last year Makhel would at least try to post people up! He could hit a hook shot and everything. Every aspect of the team is an utterly disaster. We just continue to deteriorate on every level.
The Mitchell's were 4 stars. They lasted 1 semester with Mark Turgeon and Maryland. I realize Turgeon doesn't have a stellar reputation and things have been said about him but 1 semester is a little much, Even though we're now in a culture where rejection or any failure or discipline can be tolerated . They visited PC. Whether you like Cooley or not , and I don't think he's Bobby Knight when it comes to discipline, he basically told them and Mama Mitchell what was going on and he would be in control. Evidently that wasn't acceptable for the young coddled kids. Cox, knowing he was way over his head would make concessions so he could win some games, salvaged his respect as a coach..ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Mitchells shot 26% from the field (6/23). That'a a LOT of missed shots from very tall, athletic bigs in this league, against that team. Wow they're bad.
Right I’m sure Cooley is thanking his lucky starts he didn’t land the twinsgiovanni wrote: ↑2 years agoThe Mitchell's were 4 stars. They lasted 1 semester with Mark Turgeon and Maryland. I realize Turgeon doesn't have a stellar reputation and things have been said about him but 1 semester is a little much, Even though we're now in a culture where rejection or any failure or discipline can be tolerated . They visited PC. Whether you like Cooley or not , and I don't think he's Bobby Knight when it comes to discipline, he basically told them and Mama Mitchell what was going on and he would be in control. Evidently that wasn't acceptable for the young coddled kids. Cox, knowing he was way over his head would make concessions so he could win some games, salvaged his respect as a coach..ATPTourFan wrote: ↑2 years ago Mitchells shot 26% from the field (6/23). That'a a LOT of missed shots from very tall, athletic bigs in this league, against that team. Wow they're bad.
Disagree.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Be prepared for a continued bumpy ride. There are going to be a lot more games like this for the next two seasons even with the new coach. There is not much talent here and there will likely also be a lot of turnover as is typically the case with a change. It will probably be year three under the next coach before you can expect a decent team.
With the transfer portal, though it is typically bad for a mid major successful program, it can really help out in this situation and make things a lot quicker. And there are a couple of components on this team that could certainly help if they were to stay and they have some coachingRF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Be prepared for a continued bumpy ride. There are going to be a lot more games like this for the next two seasons even with the new coach. There is not much talent here and there will likely also be a lot of turnover as is typically the case with a change. It will probably be year three under the next coach before you can expect a decent team.
At this point I just want Cox gone , if Thorr makes another bad hire it’s on him and his leash will be short tooluke wrote: ↑2 years ago Wait A minute here . Regarding Cox : to be accurate I never said they should keep Cox just because of the recruits. What I actually said is I don't want to replace Cox with another marginally better coach that we have to live with for another 3-4 years . if we can get Archie Miller or an equivalent of
course make the change , but I don't want them to dump Cox , lose the recruits and end up with a guy who can coach ok but can't recruit any better than Cox because he is just another no name like Cox . Do all of you just want to change the coach for someone who will not be much better and can't recruit either . number one is getting great players . If you can't do that you won't do any better . And giovani I don't see the point of replacing Cox if it isn't
with an excellent coach and recruiter . If we can't get that why bother making the change until you can get that guy . If that guy is out there and wants to come by all means fire Cox yesterday.
I'm kind of in the mindset that coaches probably effect player performance less than people think. Meaning - I think the best coaches put players into a position to succeed, and the worst coaches focus way too much on a player's shortcomings, or try to jam a square peg into a round hole. Like, I doubt any coach would turn the Mitchells into disciplined, interior post presences that can nail free throws. Players kind of "default" to how they want to play naturally, which is why we suddenly don't have a guard attacking the basket regularly, even though we no longer have Fatts dribbling the ball a ton.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years agoDisagree.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Be prepared for a continued bumpy ride. There are going to be a lot more games like this for the next two seasons even with the new coach. There is not much talent here and there will likely also be a lot of turnover as is typically the case with a change. It will probably be year three under the next coach before you can expect a decent team.
A decent coach has this team finishing in the top half of the league easily.
I agree with this a good coach has us top 7 maybe in the 5-7 range definitely not 11thPeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years agoDisagree.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Be prepared for a continued bumpy ride. There are going to be a lot more games like this for the next two seasons even with the new coach. There is not much talent here and there will likely also be a lot of turnover as is typically the case with a change. It will probably be year three under the next coach before you can expect a decent team.
A decent coach has this team finishing in the top half of the league easily.
Then we need a new team as well as a new coach. 5-7 is mediocre.reef wrote: ↑2 years agoI agree with this a good coach has us top 7 maybe in the 5-7 range definitely not 11thPeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years agoDisagree.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Be prepared for a continued bumpy ride. There are going to be a lot more games like this for the next two seasons even with the new coach. There is not much talent here and there will likely also be a lot of turnover as is typically the case with a change. It will probably be year three under the next coach before you can expect a decent team.
A decent coach has this team finishing in the top half of the league easily.
Most wins first 4 years ever!theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago 10-15 last year. 14-15 this year. Good night and farewell to you ladies of spain.
If I hear that stat one more time I am gonna blow chunks !!NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years agoMost wins first 4 years ever!theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago 10-15 last year. 14-15 this year. Good night and farewell to you ladies of spain.
I think this kind of sums it up in terms of Cox being not only a terrible coach with X’s and O’s, player development and recruiting. Would another coach have done better with this team? No doubt the team would have been better, but there is just so little talent on this team it isn’t funny. The group of guards are awful and as mentioned the freshman who were on this team outside of Thomas and can’t even crack in the rotation on this below average team-might be Cox fault on this end of it.SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years agoI'm kind of in the mindset that coaches probably effect player performance less than people think. Meaning - I think the best coaches put players into a position to succeed, and the worst coaches focus way too much on a player's shortcomings, or try to jam a square peg into a round hole. Like, I doubt any coach would turn the Mitchells into disciplined, interior post presences that can nail free throws. Players kind of "default" to how they want to play naturally, which is why we suddenly don't have a guard attacking the basket regularly, even though we no longer have Fatts dribbling the ball a ton.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years agoDisagree.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Be prepared for a continued bumpy ride. There are going to be a lot more games like this for the next two seasons even with the new coach. There is not much talent here and there will likely also be a lot of turnover as is typically the case with a change. It will probably be year three under the next coach before you can expect a decent team.
A decent coach has this team finishing in the top half of the league easily.
That being said though, Cox's strategy decisions and personnel choices make absolutely no sense either. I don't think he puts players into positions where they can succeed. I don't remember when Sheppard got benched for Thomas, but that was around game 25, and now is when he's decided to bench a Mitchell, when the season is already completely gone. The timeouts after made baskets make no sense. Leggett has badly regressed, El-Amin went from a solid guard at Ball State to completely passive at URI, Berry and Ayo-Faleye have now been on our roster for multiple years with almost 0 minutes played...
I don't think a new coach means that URI is among the top four in the league, because our guards were honestly awful this year. But we're probably slightly above .500 in league play at least. More to the point, in college basketball, the coach is also responsible for roster construction and retention, and we've been awful at that the past few years.
Right that’s atrocious the one thing both twins should be is about 50 % from the floor cuz of their size 7-32 is a jokebigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Makhel was 7-32 over the last two games. 32 shots from your center over two games is almost unheard of. There’s an old coach saying “you are open for a reason.”
He took 15 shots in 24 minutes today. He made 4.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Makhel was 7-32 over the last two games. 32 shots from your center over two games is almost unheard of. There’s an old coach saying “you are open for a reason.”