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Leaving to follow a coach is understandable, but he’s basically a quitter if he goes elsewhere. Commitments are futile.
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Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 week ago Leaving to follow a coach is understandable, but he’s basically a quitter if he goes elsewhere. Commitments are futile.
I can't believe you think Jared Terrell is a quitter to then! Could not disagree more.
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Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 week ago Leaving to follow a coach is understandable, but he’s basically a quitter if he goes elsewhere. Commitments are futile.
Hammond’s anti-KB? Keaney Borg?

He’s too young to have watched Next Gen ? Can’t stream it? :D
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adam914 wrote: 1 week ago
Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 week ago Leaving to follow a coach is understandable, but he’s basically a quitter if he goes elsewhere. Commitments are futile.
I can't believe you think Jared Terrell is a quitter to then! Could not disagree more.
JT decommiting from OK St is maybe a little underrated around here. That was almost a bigger deal than when EC committed.
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 week ago Just so ironic to me Hammond decommitted (supposedly) because Kenny left, and now he’ll go to to a school where Kenny isn’t coaching at either lol
I think Lawrence is the reason he left
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 week ago Just so ironic to me Hammond decommitted (supposedly) because Kenny left, and now he’ll go to to a school where Kenny isn’t coaching at either lol
I think Lawrence is the reason he left
If Lawrence is more of a 2 than a 1, why would that make Ben leave?
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 week ago Just so ironic to me Hammond decommitted (supposedly) because Kenny left, and now he’ll go to to a school where Kenny isn’t coaching at either lol
I think Lawrence is the reason he left
If Lawrence is more of a 2 than a 1, why would that make Ben leave?
He knew the team was in desperate need of a point, but had guys who 'could' play it and now this guy who 'may be more of a 2 than a 1' comes in with all this college experience and he 'could' play it, too, and he may not be able to beat everyone out in practice...maybe? Or, maybe he had advanced word on the return of the Bassy? :lol:
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Terrell quit on Oklahoma State. Glad he came here of course but let’s call a spade a spade. De-commmit=Giving up.
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Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 week ago Terrell quit on Oklahoma State. Glad he came here of course but let’s call a spade a spade. De-commmit=Giving up.
Then I’ll take a “quitter” like JT every day of the week and twice on Saturday.

The assistant who recruited him left, and he found a great spot for him.

Let the hate fuel you, I guess.
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I don’t hate the kid, he’s just a kid, but I am a little ticked that a player that we were all elated about for months as the future of our program just skips out. It’s a natural reaction.
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Top 10 reasons for Ben leaving:

1. $$$$$
2. $$$$$
3. Kenny leaving
4. $$$$$
5. Our new transfer
6. $$$$$
7. $$$$$
8. Playing closer to home
9. $$$$$
10. $$$$$
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BB78 good list. If he doesn’t go to Georgetown I’d suggest the Kenny bit be removed from the list.

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Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
I can very much see that happening.
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sevegny7 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
I can very much see that happening.
and it's nothing against Hammond....maybe someday he'll be really good. I just don't see that day being next season...and it's a one season game these days. Kinda like fantasy football...if you're lucky, you get to re-draft a couple of the decent players you had last year, but usually not.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago
sevegny7 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
I can very much see that happening.
and it's nothing against Hammond....maybe someday he'll be really good. I just don't see that day being next season...and it's a one season game these days. Kinda like fantasy football...if you're lucky, you get to re-draft a couple of the decent players you had last year, but usually not.
It's like a keeper fantasy league with maybe 3 ish players sometimes more lmaooooo
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago
sevegny7 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
I can very much see that happening.
and it's nothing against Hammond....maybe someday he'll be really good. I just don't see that day being next season...and it's a one season game these days. Kinda like fantasy football...if you're lucky, you get to re-draft a couple of the decent players you had last year, but usually not.
Very good point, NYG.

I was thinking about cbb and the fantasy league mindset a few days ago. It was in relation to cbb’s popularity.

In short, I think all the player movement will attract people/fans with that kind of fantasy sports mindset because they can envision building there own roster, compare it to reality and it will change from season to season.

That’s the best I can describe my point right now.

Oh wait. And let me add those on the ADD spectrum, too. :D
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
What is production? Do wins and losses count towards production?
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
What is production? Do wins and losses count towards production?
In this case, I'd go with mpg, ppg, rpg, and assists per game. Others may differ...
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
What is production? Do wins and losses count towards production?
In this case, I'd go with mpg, ppg, rpg, and assists per game. Others may differ...
Ben is a much better player than Bassy....right now. And I'm not one of the ones who dislikes Bassy. I guess it depends where Ben ends up as to what kind of stats he has.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy will have a more productive year this year than Hammond. Mark it down.
What is production? Do wins and losses count towards production?
In this case, I'd go with mpg, ppg, rpg, and assists per game. Others may differ...
Yeah, I think this idea that Hammond will come into D1 and go off right away is a little much. I do think he's a better floor general than Bassy. He's not the scorer Bassy is yet, and he'll need to hit the weight room like most freshmen. I would guess Bassy will put up better numbers this year, which makes sense because he's a veteran D1 point guard. Now, if Ben was a junior or senior, that's a different story. He'll definitely be a better player than Bassy at that point.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago

What is production? Do wins and losses count towards production?
In this case, I'd go with mpg, ppg, rpg, and assists per game. Others may differ...
Ben is a much better player than Bassy....right now. And I'm not one of the ones who dislikes Bassy. I guess it depends where Ben ends up as to what kind of stats he has.
There is absolutely no way you can make that statement. Hammond has played ZERO seconds of college ball.

You think Hammond would’ve averaged 20 4 and 5 in The America East this season?
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 week ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago

In this case, I'd go with mpg, ppg, rpg, and assists per game. Others may differ...
Ben is a much better player than Bassy....right now. And I'm not one of the ones who dislikes Bassy. I guess it depends where Ben ends up as to what kind of stats he has.
There is absolutely no way you can make that statement. Hammond has played ZERO seconds of college ball.

You think Hammond would’ve averaged 20 4 and 5 in The America East this season?
"...right now" :lol:
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Bassy lead an entire conference in scoring.
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Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 week ago Bassy lead an entire college conference in scoring.
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You'll see.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week agoYou'll see.
So after Thomas was All America East and averaged 20 4 5, you think Hammond is better after completing his high school career?
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Listen, first let me say that I like Bassy. You can go back and look at my posts when he was here when most people were bashing him. I think he can run a team, facilitate and makes nice passes. He's still not a good shooter. He scored a lot of points last season despite shooting 43% from the floor and 29% from three, meaning he took a LOT of shots. I sure hope that's not his role on THIS team.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago Listen, first let me say that I like Bassy. You can go back and look at my posts when he was here when most people were bashing him. I think he can run a team, facilitate and makes nice passes. He's still not a good shooter. He scored a lot of points last season despite shooting 43% from the floor and 29% from three, meaning he took a LOT of shots. I sure hope that's not his role on THIS team.
Ben decided he did not want to be here. I was psyched thinking he was coming but shit happens. Ben was not a particularly strong outside shooter so in that one area we are not losing much. Bassy wants to play here. I'm glad he is back. Archie has an entire year to find our Point Guard of the future.
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DeanDome88 wrote: 1 week ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago Listen, first let me say that I like Bassy. You can go back and look at my posts when he was here when most people were bashing him. I think he can run a team, facilitate and makes nice passes. He's still not a good shooter. He scored a lot of points last season despite shooting 43% from the floor and 29% from three, meaning he took a LOT of shots. I sure hope that's not his role on THIS team.
Ben decided he did not want to be here. I was psyched thinking he was coming but shit happens. Ben was not a particularly strong outside shooter so in that one area we are not losing much. Bassy wants to play here. I'm glad he is back. Archie has an entire year to find our Point Guard of the future.
He’s on his third year of looking for a PG. Results so far have been underwhelming.
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Rhody22 wrote: 1 week ago
DeanDome88 wrote: 1 week ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago Listen, first let me say that I like Bassy. You can go back and look at my posts when he was here when most people were bashing him. I think he can run a team, facilitate and makes nice passes. He's still not a good shooter. He scored a lot of points last season despite shooting 43% from the floor and 29% from three, meaning he took a LOT of shots. I sure hope that's not his role on THIS team.
Ben decided he did not want to be here. I was psyched thinking he was coming but shit happens. Ben was not a particularly strong outside shooter so in that one area we are not losing much. Bassy wants to play here. I'm glad he is back. Archie has an entire year to find our Point Guard of the future.
He’s on his third year of looking for a PG. Results so far have been underwhelming.
This year will be a good test for Archie and a point guard. It looks as if there are 10 pg’s from the A 10 that went into the portal and I believe the rest of the A-10 guards have used up their eligibility.
So, when the dust settles, we will be able to make an objective analysis of how we did vs Our competition in the A10.
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With whatever is up next as far as team practicing, bonding, etc...is it not odd that there's no news on what P5 school this kid is going to?
Or. is there, and I am just not looking for it just haven't seen it?
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago With whatever is up next as far as team practicing, bonding, etc...is it not odd that there's no news on what P5 school this kid is going to?
Or. is there, and I am just not looking for it just haven't seen it?
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago With whatever is up next as far as team practicing, bonding, etc...is it not odd that there's no news on what P5 school this kid is going to?
Or. is there, and I am just not looking for it just haven't seen it?
If a tree falls in the forest and doesn't land at one of the first 5 or 6 on that list, and actually PLAY....does it make a sound?
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Rhody22 wrote: 1 week ago
DeanDome88 wrote: 1 week ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 week ago Listen, first let me say that I like Bassy. You can go back and look at my posts when he was here when most people were bashing him. I think he can run a team, facilitate and makes nice passes. He's still not a good shooter. He scored a lot of points last season despite shooting 43% from the floor and 29% from three, meaning he took a LOT of shots. I sure hope that's not his role on THIS team.
Ben decided he did not want to be here. I was psyched thinking he was coming but shit happens. Ben was not a particularly strong outside shooter so in that one area we are not losing much. Bassy wants to play here. I'm glad he is back. Archie has an entire year to find our Point Guard of the future.
He’s on his third year of looking for a PG. Results so far have been underwhelming.
Most important position and he hasn't gotten the position right yet and doesn't have the point guard of the future either
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Is this pinned to the top? Does it need to be? I mean, even if you leave it there, still not going to threaten Ant's 20+ pages....
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 week ago Is this pinned to the top? Does it need to be? I mean, even if you leave it there, still not going to threaten Ant's 20+ pages....
Hey, he might be here in '25-'26 for his sophomore year and then again in '27-'28 for his senior year. That might threaten even Jared Terrell's page count record.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote: 1 week ago
Rhody22 wrote: 1 week ago
DeanDome88 wrote: 1 week ago

Ben decided he did not want to be here. I was psyched thinking he was coming but shit happens. Ben was not a particularly strong outside shooter so in that one area we are not losing much. Bassy wants to play here. I'm glad he is back. Archie has an entire year to find our Point Guard of the future.
He’s on his third year of looking for a PG. Results so far have been underwhelming.
Most important position and he hasn't gotten the position right yet and doesn't have the point guard of the future either
There is no FUTURE anymore in college basketball there is only NOW. Grab the best talent you can year to year.
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rhodylaw wrote: 1 week ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: 1 week ago
Rhody22 wrote: 1 week ago

He’s on his third year of looking for a PG. Results so far have been underwhelming.
Most important position and he hasn't gotten the position right yet and doesn't have the point guard of the future either
There is no FUTURE anymore in college basketball there is only NOW. Grab the best talent you can year to year.
In other big news....water wet, sky blue. But no, there's still people lamenting not getting players that could be "developed"..... LOL
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Virginia Tech just got a commitment from former Temple PG Hysier Miller. Is Hammond content to ride the pine for a year as long as it is power conference pine?
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Good question, STC.

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STC wrote: 6 days ago Virginia Tech just got a commitment from former Temple PG Hysier Miller. Is Hammond content to ride the pine for a year as long as it is power conference pine?
$$$$$$$$.....now factor #1.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 6 days ago
STC wrote: 6 days ago Virginia Tech just got a commitment from former Temple PG Hysier Miller. Is Hammond content to ride the pine for a year as long as it is power conference pine?
$$$$$$$$.....now factor #1.
Easily could be short sighted for $. Sitting on bench freshman year sets him behind for years 2-4 value.
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McRam wrote: 6 days ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 6 days ago
STC wrote: 6 days ago Virginia Tech just got a commitment from former Temple PG Hysier Miller. Is Hammond content to ride the pine for a year as long as it is power conference pine?
$$$$$$$$.....now factor #1.
Easily could be short sighted for $. Sitting on bench freshman year sets him behind for years 2-4 value.
Unless he gets a wink wink nudge, x amount this year, double that the next year if you stay deal?
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I am sitting here watching the NFL Draft and wondering…

When is the first ever college basketball draft ?
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Hammond visiting Virginia Tech today
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Hammond visiting Tennessee starting Monday.
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Per 247Sports.com, Tenn lost 7 from their Elite 8 team and added 3 from the portal so far. Between those 3 adds and 6 leftovers, I didn’t see a PG listed.

Hard for me to think they can’t nab a good, experienced PG from the portal with their NIL and PT available at that position. I must have have overlooked one on the current roster ?

Is Barnes open to handing Hammond the keys to the O ?

ETA: I looked at the wrong list. I was only looking at portal additions and subtractions. They still have guards on the roster. Probably one is starting caliber PG.
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Re: '24 VA PG Ben Hammond (URI LOI ---> ??? )

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Jdrums#3 wrote: 14 hours ago Per 247Sports.com, Tenn lost 7 from their Elite 8 team and added 3 from the portal so far. Between those 3 adds and 6 leftovers, I didn’t see a PG listed.

Hard for me to think they can’t nab a good, experienced PG from the portal with their NIL and PT available at that position. I must have have overlooked one on the current roster ?

Is Barnes open to handing Hammond the keys to the O ?

ETA: I looked at the wrong list. I was only looking at portal additions and subtractions. They still have guards on the roster. Probably one is starting caliber PG.
Zakai Zeigler is the starting PG

I think he would be brought in to be the next Zakai Zeigler after he graduates. Makes sense because Zakai is a short PG. They are very similar.

I think Ben would be willing to wait a year. I'd guess he'll commit after he visits.
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