Games of Interest - 2023-2024 MBB

[hrstrat57]

Loyola looks like a pretty decent addition to A10 to me.

[ramster]

77-72 Loyola wins

Dayton 23 Turnovers - 7 by Elvis, 6 by Holmes
Loyola 11 Turnovers

Tough defense by Loyola

[reef]

77-72 Loyola wins

Dayton 23 Turnovers - 7 by Elvis, 6 by Holmes
Loyola 11 Turnovers

Tough defense by Loyola

What a win Ramster , Loyola is for real !

[McRam]

Isn’t it a pleasure to watch Loyola play. The way basketball is supposed to be played. A good argument can be made that Norris is the Best point guard in the conference.

Could Valentine now be on the hot list for teams looking for a new coach?

[ramster]

77-72 Loyola wins

Dayton 23 Turnovers - 7 by Elvis, 6 by Holmes
Loyola 11 Turnovers

Tough defense by Loyola

What a win Ramster , Loyola is for real !

Yes Reef,
Going to be quite a Tournament in Brooklyn. Great game.

[McRam]

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[Jersey77]

77-72 Loyola wins

Dayton 23 Turnovers - 7 by Elvis, 6 by Holmes
Loyola 11 Turnovers

Tough defense by Loyola

What a win Ramster , Loyola is for real !

Yes Reef,
Going to be quite a Tournament in Brooklyn. Great game.

Yes, it will be.

[ramster]

Isn’t it a pleasure to watch Loyola play. The way basketball is supposed to be played. A good argument can be made that Norris is the Best point guard in the conference.

Could Valentine now be on the hot list for teams looking for a new coach?

I didn’t see players on either team arguing Ref calls. No players on either team displaying bad body language like shaking their heads, shrugging their shoulders.
All played hard every play, nobody jogging or taking plays off.
Truly a championship looking game
The Loyola Fans were superb.

[ramster]

Couldn’t ask for a better game on A10 Friday Night Showcase
Well done by Loyola hosting this game. Fans were really into it and displayed great spirit and happiness.
Congrats to Dayton too for taking the game down to the last minute.

[ramster]

If VCU beats Richmond Saturday then Dayton would drop to 4th place
Setting up a huge game March 8 between Dayton and VCU at Dayton

[reef]

Isn’t it a pleasure to watch Loyola play. The way basketball is supposed to be played. A good argument can be made that Norris is the Best point guard in the conference.

Could Valentine now be on the hot list for teams looking for a new coach?

He very well could be , he’s young maybe a job in the Big 10 ?

[NYGFan_Section208]

63-63. 433 Dayton on a 7-0 run ! Great game

amazing how that works! Valentine only needed 2 years to get Loyola back to the top!!

can't do that here because

[Jersey77]

Isn’t it a pleasure to watch Loyola play. The way basketball is supposed to be played. A good argument can be made that Norris is the Best point guard in the conference.

Could Valentine now be on the hot list for teams looking for a new coach?

Thank you McRam.

I have been defending Loyola and Valentine for almost 2 years now.

Anyone who still thinks Valentine can't coach needs to take a basketball 101 refresher course.
They play excellent defense and offensively distribute the ball extremely well.
Think about this; they are top 5 in the entire nation in assists.

His team has depth and he knows how to build a roster, plus they have recruited well.

I understand they will have a drop-off next season, to rebuild.
But they have some young talent and some quality recruits coming in.

[Rhodymob05]

Loyola is certainly making a case now.

[Rhody15]

“Bad addition”

“Provides nothing for the conference”

“Gym school”

“Picked 2rd and 3rd preseason? Those metrics suck, no chance they finish that high”

[RI_Bred]

Great game and great win for Loyola. Hate to see an A10 team drop out of the top 25 just in terms of national recognition, but I'm assuming that's where Dayton is headed...

[Rhody15]

Loyola also did $1 beers for the Dayton game.

The agony! Copying other teams’ gimmicks to get people in the door!

They also did not storm the court.

[woodennickel1]

Loyola is certainly making a case now.

Case for what ncaa ? Team has eighteen games played in quadrant 3&4.. Richmond has an outside shot. Think Loyola need at least a run to A10 final.

[Rhodymob05]

Loyola is certainly making a case now.

Case for what ncaa ? Team has eighteen games played in quadrant 3&4.. Richmond has an outside shot. Think Loyola need at least a run to A10 final.

"Making", say semi finals or runner up in A10 yes.

[Obadiah]

What I saw in watching last night's Loyola-Dayton game was an enthusiastic, engaged, always standing student section the likes of which I have not seen in years at the Ryan Center.

[Jdrums#3]

I am seeing Loyola at a 93 NET ranking today - up from 96. Good team for A10 standards; not so much for NCAAT standards, unfortunately.

It is a reflection of how far away we are and where the conference stands despite being the 8th ranked NET conference.

It is unfortunate Loyola couldn’t play better in the OOC portion of the schedule. They may be playing better than their current NET ranking reflects but they won’t get to play those teams in other conferences NET ranked above
them to prove it.

For me, it goes back to what Jersey posted about 10 days ago in another thread: The A10 coaches need to up their game.

The current state is good but not good enough.

ETA: Maybe the NCAA should flip the schedule: start the season with conference games and finish it with the OOC portion - except for holiday tourneys only.

[reef]

I am seeing Loyola at a 93 NET ranking today - up from 96. Good team for A10 standards; not so much for NCAAT standards, unfortunately.

It is a reflection of how far away we are and where the conference stands despite being the 8th ranked NET conference.

It is unfortunate Loyola couldn’t play better in the OOC portion of the schedule. They may be playing better than their current NET ranking reflects but they won’t get to play those teams in other conferences NET ranked above
them to prove it.

For me, it goes back to what Jersey posted about 10 days ago in another thread: The A10 coaches need to up their game.

The current state is good but not good enough.

ETA: Maybe the NCAA should flip the schedule: start the season with conference games and finish it with the OOC portion - except for holiday tourneys only.

Yes it’s either 1 bid if Dayton wins or 2 if Dayton loses
No @ large

[reef]

52-39 Nova. 1330

Fight Nova fight !

[Rhodymob05]

PC loses by double digits . Nice little Saturday.

[RI_Bred]

PC loses by double digits . Nice little Saturday.

Good start, now let's make it a double win.

[reef]

PC was 56 NET before game will it go down with a Q1 home loss ?

[Jdrums#3]

PC was 56 NET before game will it go down with a Q1 home loss ?

Reef, I am going to guess that since the loss was at home and by more than single digits that PC will drop 3-4 spots?

[reef]

PC was 56 NET before game will it go down with a Q1 home loss ?

Reef, I am going to guess that since the loss was at home and by more than single digits that PC will drop 3-4 spots?

I hope so , let’s get PC NET in the 60s if we can

[Jdrums#3]

Reef, Jerry - don’t call me Mary - Palm, has PC in his first four out.

[reef]

Reef, Jerry - don’t call me Mary - Palm, has PC in his first four out.

I saw that ! Any chance they lose @ Gtown next ?

[NYGFan_Section208]

'cuse with a gotta win game at the yum, which might just have the best half court logo in sports. That thing is awesome.

The Copeland dude is good...

[Jdrums#3]

Reef, Jerry - don’t call me Mary - Palm, has PC in his first four out.

I saw that ! Any chance they lose @ Gtown next ?

Imagine the meltdown it would cause in PC land if they lose to Big Ed and his 206 NET ranked Hoyas in DC ? Could be catastrophic, epic, monumental.

[reef]

Reef, Jerry - don’t call me Mary - Palm, has PC in his first four out.

I saw that ! Any chance they lose @ Gtown next ?

Imagine the meltdown it would cause in PC land if they lose to Big Ed and his 206 NET ranked Hoyas in DC ? Could be catastrophic, epic, monumental.

I’m rooting for Coach Cooley there !

[Obadiah]

Reflecting his automotive handle, Kimo Ferrari set a Brown record by pouring in 10 treys in the Bruins win over Dartmouth which gives Brown its first ticket ever to Ivy Madness. Mike Martin is doing a great job as Brown coach and it's nice to see this from a New England native who isn't paid millions to coach.

[ramster]

FINAL WEEK OF THE SEASON

A10 Games Tuesday March 5:

• Duquesne (18-11) @ VCU (-5.5) (19-10) ESPN+ 7pm

• Dayton (-9.5) (22-6) @ St Louis (11-18) CBSSN 9pm

After starting the season 19-3, Dayton has looked somewhat vulnerable of late dropping to 22-6 splitting their last 6 games

Dayton has lost 3 straight road games:

Feb 9 @ VCU 47-49
Feb 13 vs Duquesne 75-59
Feb 17 vs Fordham 78-70
Feb 21 @ George Mason 67-71
Feb 27 vs Davidson 80-66
Mar 1 @ Loyola 72-77

Their 3 wins came against Duquesne, Fordham and Davidson in the last 6 games played

St Louis is capable of beating Dayton tonight in St Louis. Sincere Parker looked great scoring 16 points in 16 minutes vs URI b before going out to the locker room with a hurt right shoulder. If he is ok he could be a challenge
Jimerson played 39 minutes vs URI and was awesome scoring 30 points, close to his career high
Larry Hughes and Stef van Bussell also played well
An efficient 19 assists to only 5 turnovers for St Louis

Dayton should win handily, but an upset wouldn't surprise me


Duquesne can be dangerous if Dae Dae Grant gets hot. VCU has lost 2 of last 4 games

[ramster]

A10 Standings Heading into Saturday Games



TOP 4 - Double Bye
1-Richmond (14-2) vs St Joseph's, @ George Mason
2-Loyola (13-3) @ Davidson, @ LaSalle
3-Dayton (12-4) @ St Louis, vs VCU
4-VCU (11-5) vs Duquesne, @ Dayton

Single Bye
5-UMass (10-7) vs Fordham
6-St Bonaventure (9-7) @ George Washington, vs St Louis
7-Duquesne (8-8) @ VCU, vs George Washington
8-St Joseph's (8-8) @ Richmond, vs Davidson
9-George Mason (7-9) @ URI, vs Richmond

Play In Game
10-Fordham (6-10) @ UMass, vs URI
11-LaSalle (6-11) @ Loyola
12-Davidson (5-11) vs Loyola, @ St Joseph's
13-URI (5-11) vs George Mason, @ Fordham
14-St Louis (4-12) vs Dayton, @ St Bonaventure
15-George Washington (3-13) vs St Bonaventure, @ Duquesne

[Rhody15]

FINAL WEEK OF THE SEASON

A10 Games Tuesday March 5:

• Duquesne (18-11) @ VCU (-5.5) (19-10) ESPN+ 7pm

• Dayton (-1.5) (22-6) @ St Louis (11-18) CBSSN 9pm

Dayton is -9.5

[RF1]

If URI and Davidson were all alone tied in the standings, URI would get the better seed by virtue of its early conference win over the Wildcats in NC.

[Blue Man]

Loyola also did $1 beers for the Dayton game.

The agony! Copying other teams’ gimmicks to get people in the door!

They also did not storm the court.

$1 beers is awesome. That gets people through the door. We have done $5 beers, which isn't really a draw.

If you do $1 beers for a big game in a season where your team is playing well? Sick, that gets the people going. If you do $5 beers in a bad season where people don't really want to go in the first place, you'll get mocked for it.

Rhody didn't copy a gimmick, because if they copied the gimmick, we'd have done $1 beers. Rhody did a poor attempt at copying the gimmick and did beer at $5.

[reef]

A10 Standings Heading into Final Week of Conference Play:

A10 Standings Heading into Saturday Games - includes last 2 remaining opponents



TOP 4 - Double Bye
1-Richmond (14-2) vs St Joseph's, @ George Mason
2-Loyola (13-3) @ Davidson, @ LaSalle
3-Dayton (12-4) @ St Louis, vs VCU
4-VCU (11-5) vs Duquesne, @ Dayton

Single Bye
5-UMass (10-7) @ Davidson, vs Fordham
6-St Bonaventure (9-7) @ George Washington, vs St Louis
7-Duquesne (8-8) @ VCU, vs George Washington
8-St Joseph's (8-8) @ Richmond, vs Davidson
9-George Mason (7-9) @ URI, vs Richmond

Play In Game
10-Fordham (6-10) @ UMass, vs URI
11-LaSalle (6-11) vs George Washington, @ Loyola
12-Davidson (5-11) vs Loyola, @ St Joseph's
13-URI (5-11) vs George Mason, @ Fordham
14-St Louis (3-12) vs Dayton, @ St Bonaventure
15-George Washington (3-12) vs St Bonaventure, @ Duquesne

Dayton should bounce back tonight but I think they win by less than 10

[ramster]

A10 Games Tuesday March 5:

• Duquesne (18-11) @ VCU (-5.5) (19-10) ESPN+ 7pm

• Dayton (-9.5) (22-6) @ St Louis (11-18) CBSSN 9pm

Duquesne upsets VCU at VCU 69-59

Dae Dae Grant 26 points to lead all scorers including 5-5 FTs
Grant now 132-138 FTs to be 2nd in nation

VCU now in precarious position for 4th place for Double Bye
VCU at Dayton Friday night

VCU does not have the tiebreaker for UMass or St Bonaventure per broadcasting team tonight

[Jdrums#3]

I expected a VCU win. I wonder if they were looking ahead to Dayton ?

[ramster]

I expected a VCU win. I wonder if they were looking ahead to Dayton ?

VCU Played without Shulga tonight but Duquesne played well. Actually had a 13 point lead and VCU hit a 3 with seconds left to make it a 20 point win
Only Duquesne’s 2nd win in Siegel Center
VCU is in some trouble now holding onto the double bye seed with this loss.
I don’t thing they were looking ahead as much as they got beat by the better team tonight. Dae Dae Grant was the best player on the floor tonight

[ramster]

Dayton outrebounded St Louis 27-9 at halftime
Holmes has 9 rebounds, 12 points - almost double-double at half
Dayton up by 14 at half after being down by 7

[McRam]

I am seeing Loyola at a 93 NET ranking today - up from 96. Good team for A10 standards; not so much for NCAAT standards, unfortunately.

It is a reflection of how far away we are and where the conference stands despite being the 8th ranked NET conference.

It is unfortunate Loyola couldn’t play better in the OOC portion of the schedule. They may be playing better than their current NET ranking reflects but they won’t get to play those teams in other conferences NET ranked above
them to prove it.

For me, it goes back to what Jersey posted about 10 days ago in another thread: The A10 coaches need to up their game.

The current state is good but not good enough.

ETA: Maybe the NCAA should flip the schedule: start the season with conference games and finish it with the OOC portion - except for holiday tourneys only.

To me, it reflects,the absurdity of the Net rankings. Guessing if Loyola started the season higher, say under 100, they would have a net under 50 or lower. I think they somehow use last years final rating as a starting point.

[Rhody15]

I am seeing Loyola at a 93 NET ranking today - up from 96. Good team for A10 standards; not so much for NCAAT standards, unfortunately.

It is a reflection of how far away we are and where the conference stands despite being the 8th ranked NET conference.

It is unfortunate Loyola couldn’t play better in the OOC portion of the schedule. They may be playing better than their current NET ranking reflects but they won’t get to play those teams in other conferences NET ranked above
them to prove it.

For me, it goes back to what Jersey posted about 10 days ago in another thread: The A10 coaches need to up their game.

The current state is good but not good enough.

ETA: Maybe the NCAA should flip the schedule: start the season with conference games and finish it with the OOC portion - except for holiday tourneys only.

To me, it reflects,the absurdity of the Net rankings. Guessing if Loyola started the season higher, say under 100, they would have a net under 50 or lower. I think they somehow use last years final rating as a starting point.

KenPom uses previous season as a starting point.

NET doesn’t come out at the beginning of the season, they only use current season results.

Not sure the exact point of the season that NET is released.

[ramster]

Dayton outrebounded St Louis 27-9 at halftime
Holmes has 9 rebounds, 12 points - almost double-double at half
Dayton up by 14 at half after being down by 7

Dayton wins 100-83.
Dayton played without PG Bennett and St Louis played without Parker who hurt his shoulder vs URI

[ramster]

A10 Games Wednesday March 6:

• Loyola (21-8) @ Davidson (-1.5) (15-14) ESPN+ 7pm

• George Mason (-2.5) (18-11) @ URI (11-18) ESPN 7pm

• St Bonaventure (-7.5) (18-10) @ George Washington (14-15) ESPN 7pm

• St Joseph's (18-11) @ Richmond (-5.5) (22-7) ESPN+ 7pm

• Fordham (12-17) @ UMass (-10.5) (19-10) ESPN+ 7:30pm

[reef]

Dayton outrebounded St Louis 27-9 at halftime
Holmes has 9 rebounds, 12 points - almost double-double at half
Dayton up by 14 at half after being down by 7

Dayton wins 100-83.
Dayton played without PG Bennett and St Louis played without Parker who hurt his shoulder vs URI

Much needed Dayton win coming off that Loyola loss

Surprised VcU lost but teams like Duquesne can get hot and beat most teams

[Jersey77]

Dayton outrebounded St Louis 27-9 at halftime
Holmes has 9 rebounds, 12 points - almost double-double at half
Dayton up by 14 at half after being down by 7

Dayton wins 100-83.
Dayton played without PG Bennett and St Louis played without Parker who hurt his shoulder vs URI

Much needed Dayton win coming off that Loyola loss

Surprised VcU lost but teams like Duquesne can get hot and beat most teams

Not having Shulga available was huge.
He is the team's best player, leading them in scoring (15 pts) and assists (3.6), plus averaging 5 rebs.
In this league it is tough to come away with a victory without your top player.