Games of Interest - 2023-2024 MBB

[ramster]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

[Jdrums#3]

Good road win for Delaware - even if it is against an Xavier team missing key players and therefore, not as good as expected.

Delaware will be a tougher home game for us than I first expected. That said, I counted it as a win when predicting our record and I will stick with that.

[Jersey77]

Good road win for Delaware - even if it is against an Xavier team missing key players and therefore, not as good as expected.

Delaware will be a tougher home game for us than I first expected. That said, I counted it as a win when predicting our record and I will stick with that.

I was unsure about this game, being at a neutral site.

[ramster]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

GW wins it by 2 in OT

“Stretch” Akingbola breaks GW all time blocked shots record with 11 blocks and GW sets team record with 15 total blocks.

[sevegny7]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

And some people think GW could finish top 5 in A10 lmao.

That's a plus 300 Navy team that is awful.

[ramster]

Wednesday night 12 A10 Games on tap. A10 favored in 9 of the 12

[ramster]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

And some people think GW could finish top 5 in A10 lmao.

That's a plus 300 Navy team that is awful.

On GW’s home court

[Jdrums#3]

Good road win for Delaware - even if it is against an Xavier team missing key players and therefore, not as good as expected.

Delaware will be a tougher home game for us than I first expected. That said, I counted it as a win when predicting our record and I will stick with that.

I was unsure about this game, being at a neutral site.

That’s right, Jersey! It’s a neutral court game. Ooph big brain fart on my part.

Thanks for the heads up. Much appreciated.

Now it’s an even tougher game than the tougher game I thought it would be about a half hour ago. Still, not as tough as playing them at their place so, I will stick with a win, unless….

You come back here and post the game has been moved to the Carpenter Center.

[Ramfan22]

Wednesday night 12 A10 Games on tap. A10 favored in 9 of the 12

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SLU has to play another top valley team after getting absolutely annihilated by SIU

[ramster]

Loyola favored by 2.5 at Tulsa. The Battleaxe not liking the score right now in the 2nd half

[PeterRamTime]

I see you Delaware!

[ramster]

Loyola favored by 2.5 at Tulsa. The Battleaxe not liking the score right now in the 2nd half

Tulsa, picked 10th in AAC preseason poll, beats favored Loyola Chicago (-2.5) by 88-77

[rhodysurf]

Yeah Loyola stinks

[reef]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

When did they switch nickname from Colonials ??

[ramster]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

When did they switch nickname from Colonials ??

May 24, 2023 announced.

https://apnews.com/article/george-washi ... a6efcd969e

[RF1]

Good road win for Delaware - even if it is against an Xavier team missing key players and therefore, not as good as expected.

Delaware will be a tougher home game for us than I first expected. That said, I counted it as a win when predicting our record and I will stick with that.

The Delaware game is on at neutral court at Belmont Park in NY. It is not in Kingston.

[RI_Bred]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

When did they switch nickname from Colonials ??

Nothing like a 6-syllable mascot name to just roll of the tongue. Sofaking stupid.

[RF1]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

When did they switch nickname from Colonials ??

Nothing like a 6-syllable mascot name to just roll of the tongue. Sofaking stupid.

I think that most people are just using the term Revs for them.

[reef]

Navy taking GW to OT. Revolutionaries 11.5 point favorites on their home court

When did they switch nickname from Colonials ??

May 24, 2023 announced.

https://apnews.com/article/george-washi ... a6efcd969e

I totally missed that ! Thanks

[Rhodymob05]

When did they switch nickname from Colonials ??

May 24, 2023 announced.

https://apnews.com/article/george-washi ... a6efcd969e

I totally missed that ! Thanks

They’ll change their name to the Americans in a few years. That’s the next step right?

[reef]

Unlv @ Dayton will not be played tonight

There was an active shooter on the Unlv campus today and the suspect is confirmed dead with multiple victims reported

[Obadiah]

Tonight's action gives further evidence that Duquesne, St. Joseph's, St. Bonaventure will be in the hunt for the A-10 crown.

[reef]

Tonight's action gives further evidence that Duquesne, St. Joseph's, St. Bonaventure will be in the hunt for the A-10 crown.

Agree with those 3 and Dayton looks like the top 4

A10 went 5-6 straight up and 4-7 ATS tonight

[NYGFan_Section208]

May 24, 2023 announced.

https://apnews.com/article/george-washi ... a6efcd969e

I totally missed that ! Thanks

They’ll change their name to the Americans in a few years. That’s the next step right?

No. Someone would surely find that to be offensive or oppressive

[ramster]

We have Loyola hosting Goshen tonight at 6pm on ESPN+ should be a good one

[NHRamFan]

If memory serves, they're based out of the Land, aren't they??

[NYGFan_Section208]

Brings me back to the days of Firesign Theater...

ANOTHER PIONEER: Boy! I'm tired o' pushin' West! How long ago'd we leave Goshen?
THIRD PIONEER: 'Bout two hours ago! Ain't we ever gonna stop?
RAILROADER: Are we in Goshen Yet?

[Obadiah]

No sense to poke fun at Loyola for playing a NAIA team, Goshen, when URI played a D3 team in JWU. Practically no difference in NAIA and D3. What it does show is the increasing difficulty of mid-major D1 teams have in scheduling a full compliment of 31 D1 opponents.

[Jersey77]

No sense to poke fun at Loyola for playing a NAIA team, Goshen, when URI played a D3 team in JWU. Practically no difference in NAIA and D3. What it does show is the increasing difficulty of mid-major D1 teams have in scheduling a full compliment of 31 D1 opponents.

Yes Obadiah, like I have been saying all along scheduling the OOC games is not easy, so I have no issues with our 18 game in-conference schedule.

Besides hard to knock Loyola's OOC schedule, they played 2 teams that were ranked in the top 10, plus Tulsa in Oklahoma, and decent Harvard and BC teams.

[Jdrums#3]

If memory serves, they're based out of the Land, aren't they??

NH, isn’t that a Men at Work song?

“ we come from the land of Goshen…”

[NYGFan_Section208]

No sense to poke fun at Loyola for playing a NAIA team, Goshen, when URI played a D3 team in JWU. Practically no difference in NAIA and D3. What it does show is the increasing difficulty of mid-major D1 teams have in scheduling a full compliment of 31 D1 opponents.

And actually, Goshen does sound a lot cooler than JayWooo....

[reef]

A10 5-0 so far today
Bona blowing out Siena
Richmond trails Florida 40-30 halftime

[Jersey77]

A10 5-0 so far today
Bona blowing out Siena
Richmond trails Florida 40-30 halftime

Tough game for Richmond still without Hunt against a pretty good Florida team down there.

[reef]

A10 5-0 so far today
Bona blowing out Siena
Richmond trails Florida 40-30 halftime

Tough game for Richmond still without Hunt against a pretty good Florida team down there.

Yes , results hold 6-1 for the A10

[NHRamFan]

If memory serves, they're based out of the Land, aren't they??

NH, isn’t that a Men at Work song?

“ we come from the land of Goshen…”

Land Down Under; Goshen. 6 of one; half dozen of another!!

[reef]

Just put on UCLA @ Villanova

UCLA starts a 7’3 guy from Spain

[NYGFan_Section208]

Just put on UCLA @ Villanova

UCLA starts a 7’3 guy from Spain

Transfer from https://www.goshen.edu/academics/spanish/

[reef]

Nova won poor UCLA

[McRam]

Good road win for Delaware - even if it is against an Xavier team missing key players and therefore, not as good as expected.

Delaware will be a tougher home game for us than I first expected. That said, I counted it as a win when predicting our record and I will stick with that.

The Delaware game is on at neutral court at Belmont Park in NY. It is not in Kingston.

Guessing it will be a game of HORSE rather than a reg bb game !

[ramster]

We have Loyola hosting Goshen tonight at 6pm on ESPN+ should be a good one


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How A10 did vs Point Spread? won 5- lost 3
UMass Lowell @ UMASS (-2.5) 91-77 - UMASS beats PS by 11.5
Troy @ Dayton (-13.5) 82-70 - Dayton loses PS by 1.5
LaSalle (-5.5) @ Lafayette 67-51 - LaSalle beats by 10.5
Miami Ohio @ Davidson (-13.5) 79-61 Davidson beats by 4.5
Hofstra @ St Louis (-3.5) 71-68 St Louis beats by 6.5
Richmond @ Florida (-10.5) 87-76 Florida beats by .5
Sienna @ St Bonaventure (-22.5) 89-56 St Bona beats by 11.5
Coppin St @ George Washington (-19.5) 87-76 GW loses PS by 8.5 points

UMASS, LaSalle, Davidson, St Louis, St Bonaventure exceeded the PS expectations

Dayton, Richmond, and GW lost PS

[ramster]

No sense to poke fun at Loyola for playing a NAIA team, Goshen, when URI played a D3 team in JWU. Practically no difference in NAIA and D3. What it does show is the increasing difficulty of mid-major D1 teams have in scheduling a full compliment of 31 D1 opponents.

Obadiah,
In my mind I was poking fun at the whole slate of A10 games for this Saturday that I listed in the thread as none of the A10 Games struck me as very enticing and having never heard of Goshen I sarcastically mentioned for some levity.

So on a serious note I got curious and I dug into the concept of scheduling NON D1 Teams. Findings:

• 8 A10 Teams scheduled NON D1 Teams.

• St Louis and GW scheduled D2 Teams

• URI, GMU, LaSalle scheduled D3 Teams and Davidson scheduled Two(2) D3 Teams

• Loyola and Duquesne scheduled NAIA Teams.

• 7 A10 Teams scheduled only D1 Opponents in OOC

I know some don't like URI scheduling Johnson & Wales. For me it doesn't matter. I read all the angst about it but for me the A10 OOC is just like spring training for the A10 Conference Tournament. Find the right starting line up, find the top 2 Substitution guys and maximize their "gelling" (did that just for NYG208). Then get the best possible Seeding and head to Barclay's to complete for the A10 AQ in 2nd week of March. That's it. There is no At-Large Bid for URI this season and highly unlikely for any other A10 Team. It's all about the Tournament.

So who URI or Loyola or any other A10 Team plays in D2, D3, NAIA doesn't really matter to me. Not much difference than playing 300+ D1 Teams like Wagner, Fairfield or Central Connecticut State.

My guess is from looking at the schedule below is that A10 Teams have limited options once they schedule their preferred OOC D1 Opponents. URI scheduled J&W on Wednesday before Thanksgiving sandwiched between Sunday's game vs Washington State on Nov 19 in Connecticut and Yale on Sunday Nov 26 at Ryan Center. Miller might have thought the team might need a rest after the Northwestern and Washington State game and prior to the Yale and PC Games. I'd say he was right if that was his thinking.

Again I don't mind the D2, D3 or even NAIA games. Fact that 8 A10 HC's scheduled Teams from these levels says they are not opposed to it. Is this because the P5 won't cater to Mid Majors? Possibly, probably.........but my guess is it has more to do with having put together a schedule that had some openings to where a game would make sense and the availability of opponents is limited because it's late in the scheduling game. Could also have to do with travel and the costs of travel. Traveling the day before Thanksgiving at Airports, Train Stations and Interstates is rough and very expensive. J&W makes is easy and economical.

Davidson scheduled 2 NAIA Opponents: Washington and Lee (220 miles away) 0n Nov 6 and Lynchburg (200 miles away) on Dec 16 (school out)

Maybe as P5's scoop down to Mid Majors to steal talent and Mid Major's scoop down to Low Mid Majors to steal talent that some HC's are also looking at D2, D3 and NAIA to replenish their rosters as well. Got to get players from somewhere. The drop down of 4-star and 5-star players from P5 Teams to Mid Majors doesn't seem to have materialized as some predicted would happen.

A10 Teams that did not schedule any NON D1 Teams in OOC:
Dayton
VCU
St Bonaventure
St Joseph's
Fordham
UMASS
Richmond

[ramster]

Sunday Games

• Fordham (4-5) vs North Texas (5-3) (-6.5) at Brooklyn Showcase. 11:30am

• Princeton (9-0) (-1.5) at St Joseph's (7-2) 1pm ESPN+

• Alcorn State (1-7) at VCU (4-5) (-14.5) 2pm ESPN+

Undefeated Princeton vs St Joseph's is very interesting:

Ranking Comparison
Princeton (St Joseph's)
NET 11 (82)
RPI 8 (158)
BPI 56 (101)
KenPom 52 (86)
Barttorvik 77 (84)


Also in the Brooklyn Showcase an interesting game to me anyway:

• Albany (6-3) vs Temple (5-3) (-6.5) 7pm No TV

[Jersey77]

Sunday Games

• Fordham (4-5) vs North Texas (5-3) (-6.5) at Brooklyn Showcase. 11:30am

• Princeton (9-0) (-1.5) at St Joseph's (7-2) 1pm ESPN+

• Alcorn State (1-7) at VCU (4-5) (-14.5) 2pm ESPN+

Undefeated Princeton vs St Joseph's is very interesting:

Ranking Comparison
Princeton (St Joseph's)
NET 11 (82)
RPI 8 (158)
BPI 56 (101)
KenPom 52 (86)
Barttorvik 77 (84)

Princeton is no joke, they did beat Rutgers and Duquesne.
Lee, Allocco, and Pierce are solid for them.
Not sure if St. Joe's big Essandko will be available today.

Big game for Urgo and Fordham to try and get back to even and beat a quality team at home.
After last year, much was expected of them this season and many had them in the top tier of the A10.

[ramster]

Sunday Games

• Fordham (4-5) vs North Texas (5-3) (-6.5) at Brooklyn Showcase. 11:30am

• Princeton (9-0) (-1.5) at St Joseph's (7-2) 1pm ESPN+

• Alcorn State (1-7) at VCU (4-5) (-14.5) 2pm ESPN+

Undefeated Princeton vs St Joseph's is very interesting:

Ranking Comparison
Princeton (St Joseph's)
NET 11 (82)
RPI 8 (158)
BPI 56 (101)
KenPom 52 (86)
Barttorvik 77 (84)

Princeton is no joke, they did beat Rutgers and Duquesne.
Lee, Allocco, and Pierce are solid for them.
Not sure if St. Joe's big Essandko will be available today.

Big game for Urgo and Fordham to try and get back to even and beat a quality team at home.
After last year, much was expected of them this season and many had them in the top tier of the A10.

How do you define Top Tier? To me Top Tier is Top 4 - getting the Bye in the A10 Tournament. Last year that was Dayton, VCU, Fordham and St Louis.

A10 Talk Preseason Ranked Fordham #1 - that was the Only Top Tier Ranking for Fordham.

After that Fordham’s highest rank was 6th then on down to Ken Pom at 10th.
Fordham’s Average among the Preseason Polls was 6.5

[Jersey77]

Sunday Games

• Fordham (4-5) vs North Texas (5-3) (-6.5) at Brooklyn Showcase. 11:30am

• Princeton (9-0) (-1.5) at St Joseph's (7-2) 1pm ESPN+

• Alcorn State (1-7) at VCU (4-5) (-14.5) 2pm ESPN+

Undefeated Princeton vs St Joseph's is very interesting:

Ranking Comparison
Princeton (St Joseph's)
NET 11 (82)
RPI 8 (158)
BPI 56 (101)
KenPom 52 (86)
Barttorvik 77 (84)

Princeton is no joke, they did beat Rutgers and Duquesne.
Lee, Allocco, and Pierce are solid for them.
Not sure if St. Joe's big Essandko will be available today.

Big game for Urgo and Fordham to try and get back to even and beat a quality team at home.
After last year, much was expected of them this season and many had them in the top tier of the A10.

How do you define Top Tier? To me Top Tier is Top 4 - getting the Bye in the A10 Tournament. Last year that was Dayton, VCU, Fordham and St Louis.

A10 Talk Preseason Ranked Fordham #1 - that was the Only Top Tier Ranking for Fordham.

After that Fordham’s highest rank was 6th then on down to Ken Pom at 10th.

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Maybe that was a bit of an exaggeration but Busting Brackets Way to Early predictions also had them at #1, then changed to #6.
Still most had them in the top half.

[ramster]

Princeton is no joke, they did beat Rutgers and Duquesne.
Lee, Allocco, and Pierce are solid for them.
Not sure if St. Joe's big Essandko will be available today.

Big game for Urgo and Fordham to try and get back to even and beat a quality team at home.
After last year, much was expected of them this season and many had them in the top tier of the A10.

How do you define Top Tier? To me Top Tier is Top 4 - getting the Bye in the A10 Tournament. Last year that was Dayton, VCU, Fordham and St Louis.

A10 Talk Preseason Ranked Fordham #1 - that was the Only Top Tier Ranking for Fordham.

After that Fordham’s highest rank was 6th then on down to Ken Pom at 10th.

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Maybe that was a bit of an exaggeration but Busting Brackets Way to Early predictions also had them at #1, then changed to #6.

Yes a bit

So should I add Bustin Brackets “Way to Early Poll” to the group of 10? And way too early polls from last April? I only took the Polls and Publications from September and Mostly from October.

Loyola had more Top Tier predictions than Fordham with Barttorvik snd Ken Pom putting Loyola #2 and #3 respectively. Good grief.

[Jersey77]

How do you define Top Tier? To me Top Tier is Top 4 - getting the Bye in the A10 Tournament. Last year that was Dayton, VCU, Fordham and St Louis.

A10 Talk Preseason Ranked Fordham #1 - that was the Only Top Tier Ranking for Fordham.

After that Fordham’s highest rank was 6th then on down to Ken Pom at 10th.

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Maybe that was a bit of an exaggeration but Busting Brackets Way to Early predictions also had them at #1, then changed to #6.

Yes a bit

So should I add Bustin Brackets “Way to Early Poll” to the group of 10? And way too early polls from last April? I only took the Polls and Publications from September and Mostly from October.

Loyola had more Top Tier predictions than Fordham with Barttorvik snd Ken Pom putting Loyola #2 and #3 respectively. Good grief.

I just remember when Busting Brackets came out with that early ranking, I thought they were crazy.

I did think that Loyola will be much improved, no-where else to go from 15, but definitely not a contender.
I also think their talent level is better than their coach, but he is still very young and inexperienced so we will see.
Their best player Alston just recently returned, that should help.
Also surprised that (F)Schwieger (2023 A10 All-Rookie Team) and started the final 26 games for them is getting very little run this year and out of the rotation. Not sure if it is injury related.

[reef]

No sense to poke fun at Loyola for playing a NAIA team, Goshen, when URI played a D3 team in JWU. Practically no difference in NAIA and D3. What it does show is the increasing difficulty of mid-major D1 teams have in scheduling a full compliment of 31 D1 opponents.

Obadiah,
In my mind I was poking fun at the whole slate of A10 games for this Saturday that I listed in the thread as none of the A10 Games struck me as very enticing and having never heard of Goshen I sarcastically mentioned for some levity.

So on a serious note I got curious and I dug into the concept of scheduling NON D1 Teams. Findings:

• 8 A10 Teams scheduled NON D1 Teams.

• St Louis and GW scheduled D2 Teams

• URI, GMU, LaSalle scheduled D3 Teams and Davidson scheduled Two(2) D3 Teams

• Loyola and Duquesne scheduled NAIA Teams.

• 7 A10 Teams scheduled only D1 Opponents in OOC

I know some don't like URI scheduling Johnson & Wales. For me it doesn't matter. I read all the angst about it but for me the A10 OOC is just like spring training for the A10 Conference Tournament. Find the right starting line up, find the top 2 Substitution guys and maximize their "gelling" (did that just for NYG208). Then get the best possible Seeding and head to Barclay's to complete for the A10 AQ in 2nd week of March. That's it. There is no At-Large Bid for URI this season and highly unlikely for any other A10 Team. It's all about the Tournament.

So who URI or Loyola or any other A10 Team plays in D2, D3, NAIA doesn't really matter to me. Not much difference than playing 300+ D1 Teams like Wagner, Fairfield or Central Connecticut State.

My guess is from looking at the schedule below is that A10 Teams have limited options once they schedule their preferred OOC D1 Opponents. URI scheduled J&W on Wednesday before Thanksgiving sandwiched between Sunday's game vs Washington State on Nov 19 in Connecticut and Yale on Sunday Nov 26 at Ryan Center. Miller might have thought the team might need a rest after the Northwestern and Washington State game and prior to the Yale and PC Games. I'd say he was right if that was his thinking.

Again I don't mind the D2, D3 or even NAIA games. Fact that 8 A10 HC's scheduled Teams from these levels says they are not opposed to it. Is this because the P5 won't cater to Mid Majors? Possibly, probably.........but my guess is it has more to do with having put together a schedule that had some openings to where a game would make sense and the availability of opponents is limited because it's late in the scheduling game. Could also have to do with travel and the costs of travel. Traveling the day before Thanksgiving at Airports, Train Stations and Interstates is rough and very expensive. J&W makes is easy and economical.

Davidson scheduled 2 NAIA Opponents: Washington and Lee (220 miles away) 0n Nov 6 and Lynchburg (200 miles away) on Dec 16 (school out)

Maybe as P5's scoop down to Mid Majors to steal talent and Mid Major's scoop down to Low Mid Majors to steal talent that some HC's are also looking at D2, D3 and NAIA to replenish their rosters as well. Got to get players from somewhere. The drop down of 4-star and 5-star players from P5 Teams to Mid Majors doesn't seem to have materialized as some predicted would happen.


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A10 Teams that did not schedule any NON D1 Teams in OOC:
Dayton
VCU
St Bonaventure
St Joseph's
Fordham
UMASS
Richmond

Yeah I don’t have a major problem with scheduling a non D1, I think a decent majority of the 362 teams schedule 1

[Blue Man]

May 24, 2023 announced.

https://apnews.com/article/george-washi ... a6efcd969e

I totally missed that ! Thanks

They’ll change their name to the Americans in a few years. That’s the next step right?

Nah Americans is probably hateful and bigoted. They’ll call them something welcoming and caring like “Hamas”

[theblueram]

I totally missed that ! Thanks

They’ll change their name to the Americans in a few years. That’s the next step right?

Nah Americans is probably hateful and bigoted. They’ll call them something welcoming and caring like “Hamas”