General Visits/transfer recruiting

[jcru]

He's one of the higher end players out there, who I can't find any information that anyone is recruiting him at the moment. He entered the portal on April 4.

[bigappleram]

Aside from Bassy, are they really more athletic than Ish, Malik, Alex, Carey, Hutch?.

Putting Malik in same athletic category as Jalen and Alex is cray cray. Was there any player blocked from behind more in Rhody history than Malik. He was strong as an ox, but had no vert and wasn’t particularly quick.

While I still think we need more talent I would agree that overall we added more athleticism and shooting.

Big Apple, A couple points about Malik. Yes, his shots were blocked at the basket a lot, and yes he was a very undersized 4. Furthermore, Malik was a very effective effective defensive player . Don’t you think that His ability to consistently play good defense against slashing wing players , is an indication of his athleticism.? And the fact that he led the teams in blocked shots, also indicates his athleticism. (More than Carey)
Maybe I’m not sure what u mean about athleticism?

In one respect they are D1 athletes so they all carry a certain level of high end athleticism. But with Malik I think his defensive effectiveness was much more due to his court and positional awareness than his quickness/leaping ability. Contrast with someone like Fatts who was a high level athlete in terms of being quick as hell and ability to get above the rim at 5’10. Malik was more reliant on his IQ and reading of the game to be effective and that’s also why he was such a good rebounder. Positioning.

[ramster]

Putting Malik in same athletic category as Jalen and Alex is cray cray. Was there any player blocked from behind more in Rhody history than Malik. He was strong as an ox, but had no vert and wasn’t particularly quick.

While I still think we need more talent I would agree that overall we added more athleticism and shooting.

Big Apple, A couple points about Malik. Yes, his shots were blocked at the basket a lot, and yes he was a very undersized 4. Furthermore, Malik was a very effective effective defensive player . Don’t you think that His ability to consistently play good defense against slashing wing players , is an indication of his athleticism.? And the fact that he led the teams in blocked shots, also indicates his athleticism. (More than Carey)
Maybe I’m not sure what u mean about athleticism?

In one respect they are D1 athletes so they all carry a certain level of high end athleticism. But with Malik I think his defensive effectiveness was much more due to his court and positional awareness than his quickness/leaping ability. Contrast with someone like Fatts who was a high level athlete in terms of being quick as hell and ability to get above the rim at 5’10. Malik was more reliant on his IQ and reading of the game to be effective and that’s also why he was such a good rebounder. Positioning.

I went game by game with the individual game box scores for the 2022-2023 Season and added up the Shots Blocked Against each URI Player.

Players Sorted by Blocked Shots per 40 Minutes:

1.67 Freeman - 28 blocks in 669 minutes
1.44 Martin - 35 blocks in 970 minutes
1.19 Thomas - 21 blocks in 708 minutes
1.12 Leggett - 30 blocks in 1070 minutes
1.00 Carey - 18 blocks in 718 minutes
0.91 Samb - 12 blocks in 528 minutes
0.53 Tchikou - 6 blocks in 450 minutes
0.51 Weston - 7 blocks in 544 minutes
0.29 Stewart - 2 blocks in 273 minutes
0.25 Hutchinson - 1 block in 162 minutes
0.22 Bilau - 1 block in 180 minutes

[Dino611]

I predict both schollies will be filled before the next dead period (May 19th)

[rambone 78]

I predict both schollies will be filled before the next dead period (May 19th)

With 2 high level transfers please.

[KevanBoyles]

I'm guessing that Buru was the last target and now that he has passed, the staff is scrambling to find another. I'm also guessing that they left the last one open for the best available that falls to them when the music stops on the 11th and that may still be the case.

[Jersey77]

I predict both schollies will be filled before the next dead period (May 19th)

With 2 high level transfers please.

It has been a little quiet since Always committed, but we did add 5 new players in April, so the staff has been busy as expected.
Not aware at this moment if we are involved with any players that will move the needle, or just adding players to fill the roster for depth.

[PeterRamTime]

I predict both schollies will be filled before the next dead period (May 19th)

With 2 high level transfers please.

It has been a little quiet since Always committed, but we did add 5 new players in April, so the staff has been busy as expected.
Not aware at this moment if we are involved with any players that will move the needle, or just adding players to fill the roster for depth.

If it's Tim Dalger or Ali Ali it would move the needle.

I think they really wanted Buru for his multiple years of eligibility above a grad transfer.

Which I get with how the program is, but either of those guys can help us win now and hopefully put us in a better position next year to get better players.

[Jersey77]

With 2 high level transfers please.

It has been a little quiet since Always committed, but we did add 5 new players in April, so the staff has been busy as expected.
Not aware at this moment if we are involved with any players that will move the needle, or just adding players to fill the roster for depth.

If it's Tim Dalger or Ali Ali it would move the needle.

I think they really wanted Buru for his multiple years of eligibility above a grad transfer.

Which I get with how the program is, but either of those guys can help us win now and hopefully put us in a better position next year to get better players.

Agree on those 2 and maybe include Hudson and Foster, plus the 2 players from SH.
But at this time not sure of any mutual interest.

[McRam]

Big Apple, A couple points about Malik. Yes, his shots were blocked at the basket a lot, and yes he was a very undersized 4. Furthermore, Malik was a very effective effective defensive player . Don’t you think that His ability to consistently play good defense against slashing wing players , is an indication of his athleticism.? And the fact that he led the teams in blocked shots, also indicates his athleticism. (More than Carey)
Maybe I’m not sure what u mean about athleticism?

In one respect they are D1 athletes so they all carry a certain level of high end athleticism. But with Malik I think his defensive effectiveness was much more due to his court and positional awareness than his quickness/leaping ability. Contrast with someone like Fatts who was a high level athlete in terms of being quick as hell and ability to get above the rim at 5’10. Malik was more reliant on his IQ and reading of the game to be effective and that’s also why he was such a good rebounder. Positioning.

I went game by game with the individual game box scores for the 2022-2023 Season and added up the Shots Blocked Against each URI Player.

Players Sorted by Blocked Shots per 40 Minutes:

1.67 Freeman - 28 blocks in 669 minutes
1.44 Martin - 35 blocks in 970 minutes
1.19 Thomas - 21 blocks in 708 minutes
1.12 Leggett - 30 blocks in 1070 minutes
1.00 Carey - 18 blocks in 718 minutes
0.91 Samb - 12 blocks in 528 minutes
0.53 Tchikou - 6 blocks in 450 minutes
0.51 Weston - 7 blocks in 544 minutes
0.29 Stewart - 2 blocks in 273 minutes
0.25 Hutchinson - 1 block in 162 minutes
0.22 Bilau - 1 block in 180 minutes

Is this the shots they blocked or how many times they were blocked?

[Dino611]

In one respect they are D1 athletes so they all carry a certain level of high end athleticism. But with Malik I think his defensive effectiveness was much more due to his court and positional awareness than his quickness/leaping ability. Contrast with someone like Fatts who was a high level athlete in terms of being quick as hell and ability to get above the rim at 5’10. Malik was more reliant on his IQ and reading of the game to be effective and that’s also why he was such a good rebounder. Positioning.

I went game by game with the individual game box scores for the 2022-2023 Season and added up the Shots Blocked Against each URI Player.

Players Sorted by Blocked Shots per 40 Minutes:

1.67 Freeman - 28 blocks in 669 minutes
1.44 Martin - 35 blocks in 970 minutes
1.19 Thomas - 21 blocks in 708 minutes
1.12 Leggett - 30 blocks in 1070 minutes
1.00 Carey - 18 blocks in 718 minutes
0.91 Samb - 12 blocks in 528 minutes
0.53 Tchikou - 6 blocks in 450 minutes
0.51 Weston - 7 blocks in 544 minutes
0.29 Stewart - 2 blocks in 273 minutes
0.25 Hutchinson - 1 block in 162 minutes
0.22 Bilau - 1 block in 180 minutes

Is this the shots they blocked or how many times they were blocked?

How many times they were blocked

[ramster]

In one respect they are D1 athletes so they all carry a certain level of high end athleticism. But with Malik I think his defensive effectiveness was much more due to his court and positional awareness than his quickness/leaping ability. Contrast with someone like Fatts who was a high level athlete in terms of being quick as hell and ability to get above the rim at 5’10. Malik was more reliant on his IQ and reading of the game to be effective and that’s also why he was such a good rebounder. Positioning.

I went game by game with the individual game box scores for the 2022-2023 Season and added up the Shots Blocked Against each URI Player.

Players Sorted by Blocked Shots per 40 Minutes:

1.67 Freeman - 28 blocks in 669 minutes
1.44 Martin - 35 blocks in 970 minutes
1.19 Thomas - 21 blocks in 708 minutes
1.12 Leggett - 30 blocks in 1070 minutes
1.00 Carey - 18 blocks in 718 minutes
0.91 Samb - 12 blocks in 528 minutes
0.53 Tchikou - 6 blocks in 450 minutes
0.51 Weston - 7 blocks in 544 minutes
0.29 Stewart - 2 blocks in 273 minutes
0.25 Hutchinson - 1 block in 162 minutes
0.22 Bilau - 1 block in 180 minutes

Is this the shots they blocked or how many times they were blocked?

McRam,

The number is how many times the player had his shot blocked.
This data is not available in Individual Player overall statistics, however the data is available by looking at individual box scores and then adding up by each game .

[Joe95]

Louisiana Tech transfer David Green visited Rhody recently, very underwhelming stats. Profile Pic on Twitter has him in Rhody Uni on recruiting visit.

[rambone 78]

Looking more and more like it's really tough for the staff to bring in higher level talented transfers. Guys want to play for a winner since they're only going to be here for a year or two. Since we stink, who can blame them.

[Dino611]

Louisiana Tech transfer David Green visited Rhody recently, very underwhelming stats. Profile Pic on Twitter has him in Rhody Uni on recruiting visit.

Visited this weekend I heard

Played decently when Louisiana Tech had Kenny Lofton Jr

Transferred from Hofstra

Averaged 7.3 pts/ game 3 boards/ game and 35% from 3 in his last full year

Very good in spacing the floor and shooting from distance and can play decent defense watching tape, but did get in foul trouble in the limited minutes he had

No offense to anyone who thinks he can be great but this is a bit of a worry to me (or a major red flag as jcru would say)

But in all honestly is a better shooter than anyone we had on the team last year and probably better than 95% of the bigs we had

Was told from a LA Tech fan/source I reached out to said that the new HC they hired didn’t get along with Green, so possibility for a mental waiver

Was also injured for most of the year so could get a waiver

In summary not a bad pickup if you want bring someone who can be decent (average 8 and 5) but at the same time have Rory stay and compete with decent minutes still (or could possibly beat out)

If any of you want an A10 comparison of what his game is like is Duquesne’s RJ Gunn

[ramster]

Looking more and more like it's really tough for the staff to bring in higher level talented transfers. Guys want to play for a winner since they're only going to be here for a year or two. Since we stink, who can blame them.

We were not a winner when Miller took the job.
We were not going to bring players in to be here a year or two - appears philosophy could be changing at least for this year.

We stunk to high heaven when Hurley took over for Baron

We stunk for a long, long time when Reiss took over and turned the program around primarily with 1 or 2 year transfers.

[rhodyblue12]

"Averaged 7.3 pts/ game 3 boards/ game and 35% from 3 in his last full year"
True, and he only averaged 16.5 min per game.

If they really can learn and play the pack line, it should help protect against fouling.

All shooters are welcome here at URI.

I think a "3 and D" type and another solid big is where we will end up with the last two.

[Backroads]

I like how he really seems to want the ball in transition. And he’s a lefty

[KingstonLane]

I think it’s fine. To Dino’s point he’s competing for minutes, good depth.

Also think this board gets compulsively obsessed with random players. Buru may end up being good (who knows - we never do), but the kid ended up at Oakland, and some here were acting like we lost out on a 5star recruit

[RamStock]

I’m not going to worry about who Miller brings in any longer. It is on him to turn this around. These our the players he plans to do it with I guess. No excuses this year though. No one wants to hear if Bilau didn’t get hurt, if Bray didn’t go off the wall and transfer, if Harris came to URI. We would have won a couple more games at most. Archie is a long way from his Dayton days and hasn’t been exactly tearing things apart lately. No more well let’s give him 3-4 years. The tourney is the only success.

[Rhody15]

I’m not going to worry about who Miller brings in any longer. It is on him to turn this around. These our the players he plans to do it with I guess. No excuses this year though. No one wants to hear if Bilau didn’t get hurt, if Bray didn’t go off the wall and transfer, if Harris came to URI. We would have won a couple more games at most. Archie is a long way from his Dayton days and hasn’t been exactly tearing things apart lately. No more well let’s give him 3-4 years. The tourney is the only success.

The tournament isn’t the only success. We aren’t a blueblood or perennial tournament team.

If we were to have the same type of season Fordham just had, 25 wins, Top 4 seed, make A10 semis, in Archie’s second year, you’d call that a failure?

That would be without question a successful season.

[Bos8]

I think it’s fine. To Dino’s point he’s competing for minutes, good depth.

Also think this board gets compulsively obsessed with random players. Buru may end up being good (who knows - we never do), but the kid ended up at Oakland, and some here were acting like we lost out on a 5star recruit

I would definitely agree with this. It's typically a "mysterious" player, where not much exists about them. International, juco etc. A lotto ticket from the board's perspective. It seems to usually be when it's someone the general public don't have much to go by, except maybe some clips of lower level competition. Green is more of a known commodity.

[PeterRamTime]

Green looks pretty good to me, can shoot and is a good athlete. I'd be down wit it

[bigappleram]

His FR year shows some encouraging potential. Played in every game for a team that won 24 games and lost in the Conf USA championship.
Also of note in the title game against UAB he logged his most minutes of the year, playing 27 off the bench in a loss.

On flip side tough to know what happened last season. He got injured but can't find much info about it. Jersey mentions him not on team roster by end of season but also hard to track.

[jcru]

We have three returning players from last year's crop of recruits: Weston, Stewart, Bilau. There is a good reason for that. Those are the ones that showed not only the desire to improve, but tangible improvement.

They also kept Foumena, who red shirted.

I think they were on the fence with Alex T. Showed the desire to improve, but wasn't actually improving in a tangible, quantifiable way.

Everyone else who is gone, minus Ish: easy decision.

I think this guy Green is on par with the kind of recruits Weston, Stewart, Bilau and Foumena are. I think Kortright is a similar player. Both stealth recruits. The first three: House, Brown, and Montgomery I think are true impact players. Wright is something of an enigma, and lies somewhere between those groups, until he actually takes the court for several games at this level, and we get to see. Could really go either way with him. Could be a superstar, or could be meh, or anything in between. It's really up to him to set the tone and that first impression, early on.

I think under different circumstances, I might be more critical of a stealth recruit, but I also think, given the circumstances, Archie , KJ, and Co did a pretty damn good job this last month and a half. I give them a solid B+. Everything is relative, and here at URI, we know, things could always be worse. A lot worse.

Green seems like the kind of player who is driven to be better, and actually makes positive gains. And he's ok, being a role player off the bench. I'm fine with this player.

[bigappleram]

Good take jcru. Agree with a lot of that. While I yearn for us to land someone more coveted I do think Archie has focused on 3 areas based on the newcomers...

-more experienced
-more athletic
-more shooting

[jcru]

I edited West --> Weston, the second time I mentioned him.

Also, I forgot to mention: Green looks like he played against some very solid competition at LaTech. He would have gone up against the likes of Ousmane at North Texas.

[RamStock]

I’m not going to worry about who Miller brings in any longer. It is on him to turn this around. These our the players he plans to do it with I guess. No excuses this year though. No one wants to hear if Bilau didn’t get hurt, if Bray didn’t go off the wall and transfer, if Harris came to URI. We would have won a couple more games at most. Archie is a long way from his Dayton days and hasn’t been exactly tearing things apart lately. No more well let’s give him 3-4 years. The tourney is the only success.

The tournament isn’t the only success. We aren’t a blueblood or perennial tournament team.

If we were to have the same type of season Fordham just had, 25 wins, Top 4 seed, make A10 semis, in Archie’s second year, you’d call that a failure?

That would be without question a successful season.

It would be a failure to me if that is Archie's ceiling 100%. Fordham didn't even make the NIT. If they had a year like Fordham next year which was the next step to an NCAA tourney bid the following year and he kept all his players and they could move forward in 2024-25 than that would be successful. I'm pretty sure if we are anywhere near .500 next year people will be sending thank you's to Archie. We aren't Duke or Uconn, but if the NCAA isn't the goal then we really have fallen more than I thought. The NIT, a winning season with no NCAA tourney or an improvement that doesn't lead to a possible tourney bid in 2024-25 is not success to me. No one cares about the NIT. It is used as a stepping stone to better things if you can keep your core. I hope Archie succeeds. We will see.

[Rhody15]

I’m not going to worry about who Miller brings in any longer. It is on him to turn this around. These our the players he plans to do it with I guess. No excuses this year though. No one wants to hear if Bilau didn’t get hurt, if Bray didn’t go off the wall and transfer, if Harris came to URI. We would have won a couple more games at most. Archie is a long way from his Dayton days and hasn’t been exactly tearing things apart lately. No more well let’s give him 3-4 years. The tourney is the only success.

The tournament isn’t the only success. We aren’t a blueblood or perennial tournament team.

If we were to have the same type of season Fordham just had, 25 wins, Top 4 seed, make A10 semis, in Archie’s second year, you’d call that a failure?

That would be without question a successful season.

It would be a failure to me if that is Archie's ceiling 100%. Fordham didn't even make the NIT. If they had a year like Fordham next year which was the next step to an NCAA tourney bid the following year and he kept all his players and they could move forward in 2024-25 than that would be successful. I'm pretty sure if we are anywhere near .500 next year people will be sending thank you's to Archie. We aren't Duke or Uconn, but if the NCAA isn't the goal then we really have fallen more than I thought. The NIT, a winning season with no NCAA tourney or an improvement that doesn't lead to a possible tourney bid in 2024-25 is not success to me. No one cares about the NIT. It is used as a stepping stone to better things if you can keep your core. I hope Archie succeeds. We will see.

You changed the goal posts with this.

You said the only success is the tournament.

I never said Archie’s ceiling was what Fordham did this past season.

I’m saying if we have that type of season next year, it cannot be called a failure.

[RamStock]

The tournament isn’t the only success. We aren’t a blueblood or perennial tournament team.

If we were to have the same type of season Fordham just had, 25 wins, Top 4 seed, make A10 semis, in Archie’s second year, you’d call that a failure?

That would be without question a successful season.

It would be a failure to me if that is Archie's ceiling 100%. Fordham didn't even make the NIT. If they had a year like Fordham next year which was the next step to an NCAA tourney bid the following year and he kept all his players and they could move forward in 2024-25 than that would be successful. I'm pretty sure if we are anywhere near .500 next year people will be sending thank you's to Archie. We aren't Duke or Uconn, but if the NCAA isn't the goal then we really have fallen more than I thought. The NIT, a winning season with no NCAA tourney or an improvement that doesn't lead to a possible tourney bid in 2024-25 is not success to me. No one cares about the NIT. It is used as a stepping stone to better things if you can keep your core. I hope Archie succeeds. We will see.

You changed the goal posts with this.

You said the only success is the tournament.

I never said Archie’s ceiling was what Fordham did this past season.

I’m saying if we have that type of season next year, it cannot be called a failure.

Archie did a terrible job this year as he had to start from scratch again with the players he had brought in. If they have a season like Fordham did and keep the core for the 2024-25 season then that is a huge step. If they are .500 or under against a very weak schedule I’m not ready to talk about how successful Archie was even though that is what will happen. I hope we do well, but don’t see that we hit on any game changing players.

[rambone 78]

I'm looking for tangible improvement next season. I dont expect the moon but we have to take a step toward relevance.

[reef]

Well we went 9-22 last year so if we go say 15-16 in year 2 that would be an improvement and we be on the right path if we go 12-19 or worse then we have problems

[PeterRamTime]

I'm looking for tangible improvement next season. I dont expect the moon but we have to take a step toward relevance.

I think just simple improvement is going to be easily done.

Just having a full roster available (Bilau at least by January) will provide far more stability than we had last year, with a far less experienced and proven team that was dealing with several injuries, eligibility concerns and then the Bray and family fiasco.

I just want to see us get in a position to make a deep run in the A-10's which would indicate a steady climb towards where we want to go.

Especially with everyone having multiple years of eligibility left.

[jcru]

If they land Dalger, I'm going to up their grade from a B+ to an A-.

Minus two hiccups, if they get Dalger, they really did the best job they could have done this Spring between transfers and JUCOs.

[Dino611]

It is a decent theory about them having a great chance on landing Dalger, he followed me back on Twitter when I told him to come to rhody plus he hasn’t committed to the other two A10 schools he’s visited already

[PeterRamTime]

If they land Dalger, I'm going to up their grade from a B+ to an A-.

Minus two hiccups, if they get Dalger, they really did the best job they could have done this Spring between transfers and JUCOs.

Well

We'll probably have no earthly idea who commits until they do!

[Jdrums#3]

David Jones? I'm a Believer.

He can certainly score (but a high volume guy) and shoots FTs very well.
Add Jones plus a reliable big and we are pretty solid. It would be a big step forward at least from a roster talent perspective.

Just realized it. Good Monkees reference there, 12.

Well done.

Let’s see if he takes the last train to Kingston.

[Ramfan22]

It is a decent theory about them having a great chance on landing Dalger, he followed me back on Twitter when I told him to come to rhody plus he hasn’t committed to the other two A10 schools he’s visited already

I was wondering why he was following you on twitter.

[jcru]

If you rummage through the Jeff Goodman master list:

https://watchstadium.com/every-player-i ... 4-19-2023/

Honestly, there is not a lot left there. It's been picked at many times over by the vultures. It's mostly guards left, but there are a few forward options left that would possibly be a fit. I don't think I would have included Green if he had not already taken a visit to Rhody. Otherwise, here is the list:

Ali Ali, 6-8, 205, F, Sr., Butler (6.5 ppg)
David Jones, 6-6, F, Jr., St. John’s (13.2 ppg, 6.8 rpg)
Tim Dalger, 6-7, 220, F, Jr., Tulsa (10.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg)
Hunter Dean, 6-10, 235, F, Sr., George Washington (8.7 ppg, 6.1 rpg)
Wheza Panzo, 6-7, 200, G/F, Sr., Stetson (8.6 ppg, 46.9% from 3, 4.6 rpg)
Jay Pal, 6-9, 190, F, Sr., Campbell (12.3 ppg) ?? - also 6.6 rpg
Myles Foster, 6-7, 235, F, Jr., Monmouth (12.5 ppg, 6.6 rpg)
Zid Powell, 6-4, 195, G, Jr., Buffalo (13.0 ppg)
Ja’Heim Hudson, 6-7, 230, F, Soph., Georgia State (10.1 ppg, 6.8 rpg)
David Green, 6-7, 215, G, Jr., Louisiana Tech (6.5 ppg)

[PeterRamTime]

It is a decent theory about them having a great chance on landing Dalger, he followed me back on Twitter when I told him to come to rhody plus he hasn’t committed to the other two A10 schools he’s visited already

I see you Dino!

[PeterRamTime]

Tim Dalger and Chris DiSano are also following each other

[CamsRams]

Any news on visits?

[jcru]

No news, but it would stand to reason, after what happened yesterday, someone is visiting this weekend.

[rhodyram22]

If they land Dalger, I'm going to up their grade from a B+ to an A-.

Minus two hiccups, if they get Dalger, they really did the best job they could have done this Spring between transfers and JUCOs.

I would also give them an A- if they can land Dalger.

[Dino611]

Hmmmmmm

Would make sense timeline wise

[rhodyram22]

Hmmmmmm

Would make sense timeline wise

Would be a huge get. Come on!!!

[steveystuds06]

[CamsRams]

[Dino611]

Your fly on the wall joke might actually be true jcru!!

[rhodyram22]

Not sure if this means anything, but he retweeted this today. Notice Saint Louis.