URI 2023 Transfers - Who Will Stay and Who Will Go?

[RhodyRams916]

Agreed you have to take guys with baggage as many have it. But not all baggage is created equal. Lamar never had 1 ding for being a selfish player, pouty, insubordinate to coaches. He was a misguided young phenom. Antwan Walker had baggage; he got in a fight with another student. No big deal. Stan got in trouble with the law and wanted more PT; again can be overlooked. Kuran may be the closest recent comp (besides Bray) bc one of his transgressions was negative social media post against the coach. And he was a model citizen under Dan.

Huge difference here tho and while not all baggage is equal. Winning cures a lot of ills. Adversity makes diamonds or burst pipes. These types of players when blended with other alphas and on a good team can work. On a struggling team almost certain to face adversity? It almost always works out like Bray. I’ll trust the staff but remain leery of Battle.

Right, Walker wasn't a problem. Worked hard, wasn't rude to Cox. Not saying it's not a risk taking Battle, but if him and Archie see eye-to-eye then he's a really good player to have.

[Jersey77]

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Agreed you have to take guys with baggage as many have it. But not all baggage is created equal. Lamar never had 1 ding for being a selfish player, pouty, insubordinate to coaches. He was a misguided young phenom. Antwan Walker had baggage; he got in a fight with another student. No big deal. Stan got in trouble with the law and wanted more PT; again can be overlooked. Kuran may be the closest recent comp (besides Bray) bc one of his transgressions was negative social media post against the coach. And he was a model citizen under Dan.

Huge difference here tho and while not all baggage is equal. Winning cures a lot of ills. Adversity makes diamonds or burst pipes. These types of players when blended with other alphas and on a good team can work. On a struggling team almost certain to face adversity? It almost always works out like Bray. I’ll trust the staff but remain leery of Battle.

Also include the twins, who were getting suspended at Maryland.

[bigappleram]

Agreed you have to take guys with baggage as many have it. But not all baggage is created equal. Lamar never had 1 ding for being a selfish player, pouty, insubordinate to coaches. He was a misguided young phenom. Antwan Walker had baggage; he got in a fight with another student. No big deal. Stan got in trouble with the law and wanted more PT; again can be overlooked. Kuran may be the closest recent comp (besides Bray) bc one of his transgressions was negative social media post against the coach. And he was a model citizen under Dan.

Huge difference here tho and while not all baggage is equal. Winning cures a lot of ills. Adversity makes diamonds or burst pipes. These types of players when blended with other alphas and on a good team can work. On a struggling team almost certain to face adversity? It almost always works out like Bray. I’ll trust the staff but remain leery of Battle.

Right, Walker wasn't a problem. Worked hard, wasn't rude to Cox. Not saying it's not a risk taking Battle, but if him and Archie see eye-to-eye then he's a really good player to have.

Walker was an awesome Ram. I hated when he left.
But again his “baggage” was a fight with another student. Probably over a girl. Who cares. This is insubordination to his coach…not the same thing.

[Billyboy78]

We have post bray trust issues lol

TOTALLY. That's why I asked if there were red flags before Bray came. If there were not, and we ended up getting what we got...and the coach decided he didn't want that kind of 'tude....on a guy that came with NO flags ...why would we want a guy that is pre-flagged already? Might as well make a push to get Bray back? (Understood that battle is more of a talent, but Bray has more than enough talent for this team, too)

There were red flags with Bray....changing schools every year going back to every high school year. At least Battle has played with the same team for the past 3 years.Still not saying I want him. Like I said, if Archie thinks he's an ass, he won't take him as he doesn't want to deal with another Bray situation again. I'll leave it up to him. If Archie thinks he's a good fit, I'm good with it. If not and he doesn't take him, I'm good with that too.

[bigappleram]

Agreed you have to take guys with baggage as many have it. But not all baggage is created equal. Lamar never had 1 ding for being a selfish player, pouty, insubordinate to coaches. He was a misguided young phenom. Antwan Walker had baggage; he got in a fight with another student. No big deal. Stan got in trouble with the law and wanted more PT; again can be overlooked. Kuran may be the closest recent comp (besides Bray) bc one of his transgressions was negative social media post against the coach. And he was a model citizen under Dan.

Huge difference here tho and while not all baggage is equal. Winning cures a lot of ills. Adversity makes diamonds or burst pipes. These types of players when blended with other alphas and on a good team can work. On a struggling team almost certain to face adversity? It almost always works out like Bray. I’ll trust the staff but remain leery of Battle.

Right, Walker wasn't a problem. Worked hard, wasn't rude to Cox. Not saying it's not a risk taking Battle, but if him and Archie see eye-to-eye then he's a really good player to have.

Walker was an awesome Ram. I hated when he left.
But again his “baggage” was a fight with another student. Probably over a girl. Who cares. This is insubordination to his coach…not the same thing.

[RhodyRams916]

We have post bray trust issues lol

TOTALLY. That's why I asked if there were red flags before Bray came. If there were not, and we ended up getting what we got...and the coach decided he didn't want that kind of 'tude....on a guy that came with NO flags ...why would we want a guy that is pre-flagged already? Might as well make a push to get Bray back? (Understood that battle is more of a talent, but Bray has more than enough talent for this team, too)

There were red flags with Bray....changing schools every year going back to every high school year. At least Battle has played with the same team for the past 3 years.Still not saying I want him. Like I said, if Archie thinks he's an ass, he won't take him as he doesn't want to deal with another Bray situation again. I'll leave it up to him. If Archie thinks he's a good fit, I'm good with it. If not and he doesn't take him, I'm good with that too.

This ^^ (in response to bigappleram too)

I'm trusting Archie this time. I thought he handled Bray's situation pretty well. Sat him in the beginning of the season after he was missing everything, then in the Cayman islands he looked like a different player. Throughout the rest of the season, from what I could see, Bray was the player getting the most one on one coaching during the games. Once his parents started getting into it behind the bench he snapped, and had every right to throw him off the team. If Archie thinks Battle's a good fit he'll take him.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Agreed you have to take guys with baggage as many have it. But not all baggage is created equal. Lamar never had 1 ding for being a selfish player, pouty, insubordinate to coaches. He was a misguided young phenom. Antwan Walker had baggage; he got in a fight with another student. No big deal. Stan got in trouble with the law and wanted more PT; again can be overlooked. Kuran may be the closest recent comp (besides Bray) bc one of his transgressions was negative social media post against the coach. And he was a model citizen under Dan.

Huge difference here tho and while not all baggage is equal. Winning cures a lot of ills. Adversity makes diamonds or burst pipes. These types of players when blended with other alphas and on a good team can work. On a struggling team almost certain to face adversity? It almost always works out like Bray. I’ll trust the staff but remain leery of Battle.

Right, Walker wasn't a problem. Worked hard, wasn't rude to Cox. Not saying it's not a risk taking Battle, but if him and Archie see eye-to-eye then he's a really good player to have.

Walker was an awesome Ram. I hated when he left.
But again his “baggage” was a fight with another student. Probably over a girl. Who cares. This is insubordination to his coach…not the same thing.

Yeah, big difference between "incident" baggage and pervasive, known "attitude" baggage....

[RhowdyRam02]

Bray can't come back because of what his family did. Not because of anything Bray himself did.

I kind of doubt this is the case. Frankly, if you can't handle a helicopter family in the year 2023, you probably got out of coaching roughly around the time of Bobby Knight getting fired from Indiana. I suspect it is more likely that Freeman agrees with much of what his family / family member is putting out there.

I mean there's no reason to hypothesize, we all remember him publicly liking a tweet saying he was going to transfer before he was kicked off the team. He absolutely agreed with his family

[RhodyRams916]

Oh god, someone please help me here lol. This guy thinks Archie was in the wrong for the Freeman situation

[jcru]

We don't have to hypothesize that this had been going on all season, because we know Archie moved the family seating away from behind the bench at the Ryan, where it traditionally always has been. Well before the incident in D.C.

[jcru]

Actions speak a whole lot louder than words.

[Billyboy78]

We don't have to hypothesize that this had been going on all season, because we know Archie moved the family seating away from behind the bench at the Ryan, where it traditionally always has been. Well before the incident in D.C.

Can you imagine Bray's dad sitting behind the bench at Bray's high school games? It's now wonder why he changed schools all 4 years.

[SmartyBarrett]

Oh god, someone please help me here lol. This guy thinks Archie was in the wrong for the Freeman situation

"all of his good players"? So, Ish?

[Rhody15]

Oh god, someone please help me here lol. This guy thinks Archie was in the wrong for the Freeman situation

"all of his good players"? So, Ish?

Freeman of course is in the portal too.

[jcru]

It's probably a Freeman family member. They never learn. You would think they would tone it down until Bray finds a landing spot

[RhodyRams916]

Oh god, someone please help me here lol. This guy thinks Archie was in the wrong for the Freeman situation

"all of his good players"? So, Ish?

I thought that part was weird. Freeman entering the portal was a result of being thrown off the team, not leaving himself.

[steviep123]

If (and only if) the other four players on the floor can score, Bassy improves on both D and develops a better outside shot, then Bassy can be a serviceable A10 pg (like a poor man's Carlos Easterling). That's a lot of ifs I know.

[jcru]

lol. I don't know about all that, but I like the reference, stevie

[RhodyRams916]

lol. I don't know about all that, but I like the reference, stevie

Didn't Archie say he was the best 3pt shooter in practice before the season started? Sometimes it just doesn't translate to games.

[bigappleram]

That tweeter is a kid from VA and seemingly a GMU fan. No clue.

[RhodyRams916]

That tweeter is a kid from VA and seemingly a GMU fan. No clue.

He was also the one who tweeted that Bray was gonna transfer. Aka the tweet that started the speculation after he liked it. Gonna ignore him.

[bigappleram]

That tweeter is a kid from VA and seemingly a GMU fan. No clue.

He was also the one who tweeted that Bray was gonna transfer. Aka the tweet that started the speculation after he liked it. Gonna ignore him.

Anyone inferring that Archie handled it poorly bc the kid was scoring points is either a family member or has an agenda.

[RhodyRams916]

That tweeter is a kid from VA and seemingly a GMU fan. No clue.

He was also the one who tweeted that Bray was gonna transfer. Aka the tweet that started the speculation after he liked it. Gonna ignore him.

Anyone inferring that Archie handled it poorly bc the kid was scoring points is either a family member or has an agenda.

Yeah, it's gotta be a friend or something. Archie handled it pretty fucking well imo.

[PeterRamTime]

That tweeter is a kid from VA and seemingly a GMU fan. No clue.

I read this as

"That tweaker is a kid from VA"

[bigappleram]

All Name team

[reef]

I'm sure Archie was giving Bray tough love all season, and it was going just fine. That's why when Bray had to leave the team because of what his FAMILY did, he seemed so lost, sitting in the stands, and didn't seem to understand what had changed. Because he was used to getting the opportunity to redeem himself when he messed up, but there was no coming back from that. Even outbursts like "pulling me is disrespectful" are fine, so long as they are said and hashed out behind closed doors, not for public consumption with his family members egging him on. That's why he's gone. His master plan to corner Archie from behind the bench at a game in D.C. blew up in his face. He crossed the line that cannot be crossed.

As far as I know, Battle has no such family issues. Doesn't seem to post his inner most feelings on social media. Sure, wants to play 40 mins and get the ball in every important situation, but that goes along with his position. Bray was not a two guard. He was a "run into the paint amongst 3-4 opposing players and try to weave your way to the basket" guard. His shooting ability was limited.

Also about Battle, take a look at his recent comment on Temple's insta. Could've really been something just between him and the coach and not his teammates. I don't think we should write someone off like him yet. Once again, 24 pts against Houston, one of the best teams in the country!

These quotes lead me to believe Battle just had a beef MCkie and not his teammates, I’m with BAR and others that trust Arch and staff will make the right decision on this kid

[15 Year Lurker]

Khalif battle is a DUDE. This board should be ecstatic we’re getting him on a visit.

Spare me the attitude problems. This isn’t Brayon Freeman averaging 10ppg. This is a kid who would be a pre season favorite for A10 POY

Go look at this kids game log from this past season and tell me you don’t want him on this team

21 points vs Villanova
26 vs Richmond
22 vs Lasalle
27 vs VCU
24 vs Houston (#1 seed in the NCAA tourney)

These guys don’t grow on trees

I was very excited when I heard he was visiting a few days ago. I’m amazed that we have people saying they don’t want him. Incredible.

This board is the epitome of people who know nothing about college basketball groupthink.

He’s a star who averaged 17 points per game at temple, we have no players who can even score 5 points per game currently on the roster, and there is a consensus he is some bad apple not to go after (with really no proof)

[Rhody15]

Khalif battle is a DUDE. This board should be ecstatic we’re getting him on a visit.

Spare me the attitude problems. This isn’t Brayon Freeman averaging 10ppg. This is a kid who would be a pre season favorite for A10 POY

Go look at this kids game log from this past season and tell me you don’t want him on this team

21 points vs Villanova
26 vs Richmond
22 vs Lasalle
27 vs VCU
24 vs Houston (#1 seed in the NCAA tourney)

These guys don’t grow on trees

I was very excited when I heard he was visiting a few days ago. I’m amazed that we have people saying they don’t want him. Incredible.

This board is the epitome of people who know nothing about college basketball groupthink.

He’s a star who averaged 17 points per game at temple, we have no players who can even score 5 points per game currently on the roster, and there is a consensus he is some bad apple not to go after (with really no proof)

Lol yup, been saying for a while that numerous people here know little to nothing about the game.

[bigappleram]

Khalif battle is a DUDE. This board should be ecstatic we’re getting him on a visit.

Spare me the attitude problems. This isn’t Brayon Freeman averaging 10ppg. This is a kid who would be a pre season favorite for A10 POY

Go look at this kids game log from this past season and tell me you don’t want him on this team

21 points vs Villanova
26 vs Richmond
22 vs Lasalle
27 vs VCU
24 vs Houston (#1 seed in the NCAA tourney)

These guys don’t grow on trees

I was very excited when I heard he was visiting a few days ago. I’m amazed that we have people saying they don’t want him. Incredible.

This board is the epitome of people who know nothing about college basketball groupthink.

He’s a star who averaged 17 points per game at temple, we have no players who can even score 5 points per game currently on the roster, and there is a consensus he is some bad apple not to go after (with really no proof)

Except there is proof. Use google it’s your friend.
And if anything it’s the casual fan who just would look at stats in a vacuum and say Take Him. Not even sure what the groupthink comment means bc in this case the majority of the group says take him and deal with the possible drama.

I’m of the mindset take him if Archie feels he can make it work obv but to ignore red flags with such recent examples of it going south seems crazy.

[bigappleram]

I was very excited when I heard he was visiting a few days ago. I’m amazed that we have people saying they don’t want him. Incredible.

This board is the epitome of people who know nothing about college basketball groupthink.

He’s a star who averaged 17 points per game at temple, we have no players who can even score 5 points per game currently on the roster, and there is a consensus he is some bad apple not to go after (with really no proof)

Lol yup, been saying for a while that numerous people here know little to nothing about the game.

I got a chuckle out of this one.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

All Name team

Only a Rhode Islandah would ask whether he's any relation to Jimmy and Stan.

[section(105)]

All Name team

Only a Rhode Islandah would ask whether he's any relation to Jimmy and Stan.

So, so, so, what is this guys résumé?

[bigappleram]

The old “combo guard”. Didn’t do any digging to find much. Did 1 year at Juco after HS presumably for academic reasons.

[bigappleram]

1 thing I did find is his brothers name is All Wright.
Amazing stuff.

[RhodyRams916]

All Name team

Only a Rhode Islandah would ask whether he's any relation to Jimmy and Stan.

So, so, so, what is this guys résumé?

Averages:
FG 49%
3PT 44%
FT 84%
RB 5.4
A 6.3

[Billyboy78]

[RhodyRams916]

He looks good.

[KevanBoyles]

1 thing I did find is his brothers name is All Wright.
Amazing stuff.

Sounds like he was born to be a Ram.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Oh god, someone please help me here lol. This guy thinks Archie was in the wrong for the Freeman situation

He had "good players"? How come we never saw them?

[RhodyRams916]

Oh god, someone please help me here lol. This guy thinks Archie was in the wrong for the Freeman situation

He had "good players"? How come we never saw them?

Yeah! He had Harris!

He’s technically in the portal, right?!

[Rhody15]

This board is the epitome of people who know nothing about college basketball groupthink.

He’s a star who averaged 17 points per game at temple, we have no players who can even score 5 points per game currently on the roster, and there is a consensus he is some bad apple not to go after (with really no proof)

Lol yup, been saying for a while that numerous people here know little to nothing about the game.

I got a chuckle out of this one.

Because I’ll most likely be wrong about Cooley leaving for Georgetown? Sorry yea, guess I fell for his coach speak about PC. Sue me.

Guess that means I know nothing about basketball!

[theblueram]

Lol yup, been saying for a while that numerous people here know little to nothing about the game.

I got a chuckle out of this one.

Because I’ll most likely be wrong about Cooley leaving for Georgetown? Sorry yea, guess I fell for his coach speak about PC. Sue me. Guess that means I know nothing about basketball!

Well, you know less than you thought you did.

[Rhody15]

I got a chuckle out of this one.

Because I’ll most likely be wrong about Cooley leaving for Georgetown? Sorry yea, guess I fell for his coach speak about PC. Sue me. Guess that means I know nothing about basketball!

Well, you know less than you thought you did.

Every single person on this board has been wrong about something and will continue to be wrong going forward.

Some people here know and understand the game better than others, and it’s very obvious who those people are when reading posts.

[steveystuds06]

I agree Stevie, his family pretty much said that to us at the A10s. Said that it was taking a big toll on his body being the only one playing hard and tough, also said they weren't impressed with the "coaching" and that he was very disappointed to not receive any mentions in the A10 awards. I think he had already made his decision by then.

Ish improved considerably under the "coaching". Perhaps they have a problem with his communication style? Ish going hard after loose balls is perhaps his best trait as a basketball player. If I was Malik Martin I'd probably be annoyed by those comments. He played as tough as anyone.

I’m sorry but if his parents and him thought he was the only one playing hard, then they weren’t watching the games whatsoever or know what “playing hard” means.

Malik, Thomas, Alex all played hard.

Maybe not the most talented, but besides the home UMass game, I didn’t think there was any issue of the team playing hard.

There was just no talent.

We literally designed our entire offense around Ish and he had in my opinion the best possible year he could have. Archie has to get some credit for that. I thought a lot of guys had a ton of heart they just lack the talent. Ish battled as well but he wasn't the only one

[Rhody15]

Ish improved considerably under the "coaching". Perhaps they have a problem with his communication style? Ish going hard after loose balls is perhaps his best trait as a basketball player. If I was Malik Martin I'd probably be annoyed by those comments. He played as tough as anyone.

I’m sorry but if his parents and him thought he was the only one playing hard, then they weren’t watching the games whatsoever or know what “playing hard” means.

Malik, Thomas, Alex all played hard.

Maybe not the most talented, but besides the home UMass game, I didn’t think there was any issue of the team playing hard.

There was just no talent.

We literally designed our entire offense around Ish and he had in my opinion the best possible year he could have. Archie has to get some credit for that. I thought a lot of guys had a ton of heart they just lack the talent. Ish battled as well but he wasn't the only one

Correct, I never said Archie wasn’t responsible for Leggett’s development. Archie absolutely gets credit for his season.

[steveystuds06]

I’m sorry but if his parents and him thought he was the only one playing hard, then they weren’t watching the games whatsoever or know what “playing hard” means.

Malik, Thomas, Alex all played hard.

Maybe not the most talented, but besides the home UMass game, I didn’t think there was any issue of the team playing hard.

There was just no talent.

We literally designed our entire offense around Ish and he had in my opinion the best possible year he could have. Archie has to get some credit for that. I thought a lot of guys had a ton of heart they just lack the talent. Ish battled as well but he wasn't the only one

Correct, I never said Archie wasn’t responsible for Leggett’s development. Archie absolutely gets credit for his season.

I know. I'm agreeing with your post. I know that's rare with us.

[steveystuds06]

Because I’ll most likely be wrong about Cooley leaving for Georgetown? Sorry yea, guess I fell for his coach speak about PC. Sue me. Guess that means I know nothing about basketball!

Well, you know less than you thought you did.

Every single person on this board has been wrong about something and will continue to be wrong going forward.

Some people here know and understand the game better than others, and it’s very obvious who those people are when reading posts.

I've been wrong about plenty of things. For example, I thought Weston had A10 POY upside.. I still like his game, but I was wrong. And after watching more and more of our incoming recruits i'm not sure if they will be as good as I thought. I hope i'm wrong...

[bigappleram]

Lol yup, been saying for a while that numerous people here know little to nothing about the game.

I got a chuckle out of this one.

Because I’ll most likely be wrong about Cooley leaving for Georgetown? Sorry yea, guess I fell for his coach speak about PC. Sue me.

Guess that means I know nothing about basketball!

By the frequency in which you post condescendingly on here for literally no reason I would say you know nothing about life, forget basketball.

[bigappleram]

Because I’ll most likely be wrong about Cooley leaving for Georgetown? Sorry yea, guess I fell for his coach speak about PC. Sue me. Guess that means I know nothing about basketball!

Well, you know less than you thought you did.

Every single person on this board has been wrong about something and will continue to be wrong going forward.

Some people here know and understand the game better than others, and it’s very obvious who those people are when reading posts.

Back tracking much. Zero chance, zero.

You are right everyone will have a bad take here it’s just 1 person who does so while being a condescending asshat every time. You also love to compliment yourself a lot.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Because I’ll most likely be wrong about Cooley leaving for Georgetown? Sorry yea, guess I fell for his coach speak about PC. Sue me. Guess that means I know nothing about basketball!

Well, you know less than you thought you did.

Every single person on this board has been wrong about something and will continue to be wrong going forward.

Some people here know and understand the game better than others, and it’s very obvious who those people are when reading posts.

I guess we're proof that "knowing the game" is irrelevant? I'd acknowledge you might know more about basketball than me (not that I care or even really believe it)...but it's not making any difference when it comes to the waterCooley talk?