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Typically A10 All Conference gets released on the Tuesday of the Conference Tournament
Possible it gets released today on Monday due to opening round games being moved from Wednesday to Tuesday with the addition of Loyola and making Friday an open, rest day for all remaining teams

At any rate this thread is for listing the release and for discussion regarding selections.

I believe Leggett makes at least 3rd team. The A10 selects 6 players per 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams - Total of 18 players.

In addition A10 select single teams consisting of 5 players per team for All Defensive, All Academic and All Rookie Teams.

Ishmael Leggett has solid credentials
  • 7th Scoring
  • 15th Rebounding
  • 6th FT Percentage
  • 9th Steals
  • Team leader, excellent defensively, much improved
  • Cayman Classic All Tournament Team
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Yeah, he should get something. The people who pick this stuff for the A-10 can be weird so, hope for the best, plan for the worst
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Most of the social media A10 pundits had him on 2nd or 3rd team in their unofficial ballots. No other Rhody players obviously.
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I think 2nd team would be fair for Ish this year. Continued improvement and maybe he's in the POY conversation next year.
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I can’t see 2nd team just because of our record.

3rd team definitely a possibility, but I won’t call it a snub if he doesn’t make it. We were garbage this year and voters may/probably will take team record into account.
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Knowing the A-10 he won't get anything
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PeterRamTime wrote: 1 year ago Knowing the A-10 he won't get anything
And it wouldn’t be a snub.

We were too bad this year to complain about Ish not making a team if that’s the case.

The biggest all conference snub of all time has to be Yuta Watanabe getting DPOY over Stan.
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18 will be named to an All Conference Team - 3 teams of 6
I think Leggett continues to some degree to get underestimated by some URI fans and fans overall. Leggett is one of the premier players in the A10 and P5 Teams would heavily recruit him if available.

I'd expect minimum 3rd team and a good possibility of 2nd team. He could be 1st team if our team was among the top 4 byes.

Can't imagine he gets overlooked. I'd be shocked. He is too good. Opposing teams and coaches know how good Leggett is.

Leggett highlights:
  • 7th in points = 16.9 points per game
  • 15th in rebounds = 5.8 rebounds per game
  • 6th in FT% = 84.3%. He hit 145-172. The 145 makes we're the most of any player in the Top 25
  • 9th in steals = 1.5 steals per game
  • Outstanding effort and attitude. Always gives 100%
  • Leads by example. A natural leader.
  • Cayman Classic All Tournament Team
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ramster wrote: 1 year ago 18 will be named to an All Conference Team - 3 teams of 6
I think Leggett continues to some degree to get underestimated by some URI fans and fans overall. Leggett is one of the premier players in the A10 and P5 Teams would heavily recruit him if available.

I'd expect minimum 3rd team and a good possibility of 2nd team. He could be 1st team if our team was among the top 4 byes.

Can't imagine he gets overlooked. I'd be shocked. He is too good. Opposing teams and coaches know how good Leggett is.

Leggett highlights:
  • 7th in points = 16.9 points per game
  • 15th in rebounds = 5.8 rebounds per game
  • 6th in FT% = 84.3%. He hit 145-172. The 145 makes we're the most of any player in the Top 25
  • 9th in steals = 1.5 steals per game
  • Outstanding effort and attitude. Always gives 100%
  • Leads by example. A natural leader.
  • Cayman Classic All Tournament Team

If Archie says Ish isn’t all conference, I don’t see how any of us can say he is either.
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Do I think Ish should be 3rd team? Yep.

However, it wouldn't surprise me to know that the A-10 committee picking these has some sort of rule that they only pick players from the top 9 or 10 teams in the Conference. So, I'm expecting the snub.
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Just to double down on that logic...

If URI were the 5th place team in the Conference, and Ish was(is) the best player on the team, they would easily give him 2nd team All A-10.

Best player on the second to last placed team? Big ole goose egg.

There is a numbers game involved here, there are only 18 slots for 18 players, and after the way they gave Toure on the Women's team, 1st Team All A-10 because she was on the 2nd best team in the Conference? Pretty much spells out what is going on here.
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 1 year ago Knowing the A-10 he won't get anything
And it wouldn’t be a snub.

We were too bad this year to complain about Ish not making a team if that’s the case.

The biggest all conference snub of all time has to be Yuta Watanabe getting DPOY over Stan.
Nah fuck that. It’s precisely because of that year that the A10 can shove their “the team isn’t good so they don’t get awards” talk. I said the same when Xavier Munford was snubbed.

But then had one of the best A10 teams in the past decade and we had less accolades than any.

Terrell should’ve been POY. Stan DPOY. More players on top teams.

Ish deserves to be recognized for this year.
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Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 1 year ago Knowing the A-10 he won't get anything
And it wouldn’t be a snub.

We were too bad this year to complain about Ish not making a team if that’s the case.

The biggest all conference snub of all time has to be Yuta Watanabe getting DPOY over Stan.
Nah fuck that. It’s precisely because of that year that the A10 can shove their “the team isn’t good so they don’t get awards” talk. I said the same when Xavier Munford was snubbed.

But then had one of the best A10 teams in the past decade and we had less accolades than any.

Terrell should’ve been POY. Stan DPOY. More players on top teams.

Ish deserves to be recognized for this year.

Also thought EC should’ve been ROY by himself instead of sharing with Bembry.
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
ramster wrote: 1 year ago 18 will be named to an All Conference Team - 3 teams of 6
I think Leggett continues to some degree to get underestimated by some URI fans and fans overall. Leggett is one of the premier players in the A10 and P5 Teams would heavily recruit him if available.

I'd expect minimum 3rd team and a good possibility of 2nd team. He could be 1st team if our team was among the top 4 byes.

Can't imagine he gets overlooked. I'd be shocked. He is too good. Opposing teams and coaches know how good Leggett is.

Leggett highlights:
  • 7th in points = 16.9 points per game
  • 15th in rebounds = 5.8 rebounds per game
  • 6th in FT% = 84.3%. He hit 145-172. The 145 makes we're the most of any player in the Top 25
  • 9th in steals = 1.5 steals per game
  • Outstanding effort and attitude. Always gives 100%
  • Leads by example. A natural leader.
  • Cayman Classic All Tournament Team

If Archie says Ish isn’t all conference, I don’t see how any of us can say he is either.
There is no way Archie Miller does not think Ishmael Leggett is not All A-10 Conference. Not buying that at all. That is not realistic. That's lunacy.
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ramster wrote: 1 year ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
ramster wrote: 1 year ago 18 will be named to an All Conference Team - 3 teams of 6
I think Leggett continues to some degree to get underestimated by some URI fans and fans overall. Leggett is one of the premier players in the A10 and P5 Teams would heavily recruit him if available.

I'd expect minimum 3rd team and a good possibility of 2nd team. He could be 1st team if our team was among the top 4 byes.

Can't imagine he gets overlooked. I'd be shocked. He is too good. Opposing teams and coaches know how good Leggett is.

Leggett highlights:
  • 7th in points = 16.9 points per game
  • 15th in rebounds = 5.8 rebounds per game
  • 6th in FT% = 84.3%. He hit 145-172. The 145 makes we're the most of any player in the Top 25
  • 9th in steals = 1.5 steals per game
  • Outstanding effort and attitude. Always gives 100%
  • Leads by example. A natural leader.
  • Cayman Classic All Tournament Team

If Archie says Ish isn’t all conference, I don’t see how any of us can say he is either.
There is no way Archie Miller does not think Ishmael Leggett is not All A-10 Conference. Not buying that at all. That is not realistic. That's lunacy.
Ok.

He was literally quoted saying “he wasn’t all conference” so apparently we should ignore what Archie said and listen to you.

Also, I don’t know if you realize that All A10 teams only take into account conference performance, so you putting his Cayman Island accomplishment, his total FTs, and his total rebound average is irrelevant to the team selections.
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A10 Talk Awards. Not to be confused with official A10 Awards soon to be announced

https://www.a10talk.com/award-thoughts- ... -ramblers/

All Conference First Team:
Daron Holmes, Dayton
Ace Baldwin Jr, VCU
James Bishop, George Washington
Darius Quisenberry, Fordham
Yuri Collins, Sly
Toumani Camara, Dayton

All Conference Second Team:
Josh Oduro, George Mason
Tyler Burton, Richmond
Erik Reynolds II, Saint Joseph’s
Foster Loyer, Davidson
Ishmael Leggett, Rhode Island's
Dae Dae Grant, Duquesne

All Conference Third Team:
Brendan Adams, George Washington
Philip Alston, Loyola Chicago
Sam Mennenga, Davidson
Jalen DeLoach, VCU
Khalid Moore, Fordham
Daryl Banks III, St. Bonaventure

All Defensive Team
Ace Baldwin Jr, VCU
Daron Holmes, Dayton
Jimmy Clark III, Duquesne
Abdou Tsimbila, Fordham
Francis Okoro, SLU

All Freshman Team
RJ Luis, Massachusetts
Max Edwards, George Washington
Yann Farell, St. Bonaventure
Ben Schwieger, Loyola Chicago
Rasheer Fleming, Saint Joseph’s
Jason Nelson, Richmond
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Looks like Duquesne posted the awards early?

No Rhody representation:
https://goduquesne.com/documents/2023/3 ... AWARDS.pdf
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CamsRams wrote: 1 year ago Looks like Duquesne posted the awards early?

No Rhody representation:
https://goduquesne.com/documents/2023/3 ... AWARDS.pdf
Motivating factor for 4:30pm today
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Not surprised
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jcru wrote: 1 year agoNot surprised
Nobody should be.
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago

And it wouldn’t be a snub.

We were too bad this year to complain about Ish not making a team if that’s the case.

The biggest all conference snub of all time has to be Yuta Watanabe getting DPOY over Stan.
Nah fuck that. It’s precisely because of that year that the A10 can shove their “the team isn’t good so they don’t get awards” talk. I said the same when Xavier Munford was snubbed.

But then had one of the best A10 teams in the past decade and we had less accolades than any.

Terrell should’ve been POY. Stan DPOY. More players on top teams.

Ish deserves to be recognized for this year.

Also thought EC should’ve been ROY by himself instead of sharing with Bembry.
I agree, but I thought how you used to. "Oh our guys will get their due when we're good." F that. We didn't. We never will. Not sure what this conference has against URI, but it has continued to be F'd no matter who the coach or players were. This conference blows. Everything about it from Bernadette through the whole office.
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Brendan Adams likely got in over Ish. Very similar years/stats but GW with a much better year gets the nod.
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Equity.

URI is the old, white, 80 year old, Santa Claus looking man with the ZZ top beard, only white.

The only way we get respect is if we tear this Conference from one end to the other.

Notice they threw Loyola a bone? Rest my case.
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I'm so glad URI plays Football in the CAA and that the A-10 doesn't have a Football Conference component.
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Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago

Nah fuck that. It’s precisely because of that year that the A10 can shove their “the team isn’t good so they don’t get awards” talk. I said the same when Xavier Munford was snubbed.

But then had one of the best A10 teams in the past decade and we had less accolades than any.

Terrell should’ve been POY. Stan DPOY. More players on top teams.

Ish deserves to be recognized for this year.

Also thought EC should’ve been ROY by himself instead of sharing with Bembry.
I agree, but I thought how you used to. "Oh our guys will get their due when we're good." F that. We didn't. We never will. Not sure what this conference has against URI, but it has continued to be F'd no matter who the coach or players were. This conference blows. Everything about it from Bernadette through the whole office.
There is no conspiracy against URI from the A10.

Besides the HC/member schools vote on these all-conference selections.
Not sure why all your hate for Bernadette and the administrative office.
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Ace Baldwin POY…

What the fuck are these voters on

Holmes was far beyond Baldwin imho

Holmes about to make the conference pay

Also how does one get POY when we held him to 2 pts
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Yikes. Even Ish being snubbed aside these awards make zero sense
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Ish has a case for 3rd team, but it's hard to argue when the team had such a bad year. He'll get his chance.
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Dino611 wrote: 1 year ago Ace Baldwin POY…

What the fuck are these voters on

Holmes was far beyond Baldwin imho

Holmes about to make the conference pay

Also how does one get POY when we held to 2 pts
Ace was the best player on the best team in the conference.
He led the team in scoring, assists, and steals.
Also was the top defensive player in the league.
So, I can understand what the coaches were thinking.
They were pre-season picked 3rd and finished ahead of both Dayton and SLU.
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it was a case for 2nd team. And, Ish is penalized because of his team?

If anything, it would be more difficult to excel, if your team is performing poorly.

let's hope Ish doesn't pull a "Brendan Adams" and bolt.
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That's apparently what we do these days...

We reward people for jumping ship x2, instead of people who gut it out.
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What kind of a message does that send to someone like Ishmael Leggett, who has one more year to make something happen?

The A-10 Conference hates you. Might be time to test the P6 waters.
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Dino611 wrote: 1 year ago Ace Baldwin POY…

What the fuck are these voters on

Holmes was far beyond Baldwin imho

Holmes about to make the conference pay

Also how does one get POY when we held to 2 pts
Seems like they always award POY to a guy on the best team.

Like in 2017-18 when Rhody steamrolled the conference, the POY was... wait never mind.

So stupid.
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jcru wrote: 1 year ago What kind of a message does that send to someone like Ishmael Leggett, who has one more year to make something happen?

The A-10 Conference hates you. Might be time to test the P6 waters.
If Ish leaves, it will have nothing to do with the A10 awards.
He was always more concerned with the team's performance than individual accolades.
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nothing happens in a vacuum
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jcru wrote: 1 year ago What kind of a message does that send to someone like Ishmael Leggett, who has one more year to make something happen?

The A-10 Conference hates you. Might be time to test the P6 waters.
That’s insane logic.
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jcru wrote: 1 year ago it was a case for 2nd team. And, Ish is penalized because of his team?
Penalized because of his team but yet 8-10 Davidson got TWO guys on all-conference teams.
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jcru wrote: 1 year ago What kind of a message does that send to someone like Ishmael Leggett, who has one more year to make something happen?

The A-10 Conference hates you. Might be time to test the P6 waters.
I would hope that he is not going to base his decision on all conference selections. I don't think that is the type of player Ish is.
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
jcru wrote: 1 year ago What kind of a message does that send to someone like Ishmael Leggett, who has one more year to make something happen?

The A-10 Conference hates you. Might be time to test the P6 waters.
That’s insane logic.
I said I wasn't surprised about the snuff. That doesn't mean I'm not upset about the snuff.
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adam914 wrote: 1 year ago
jcru wrote: 1 year ago What kind of a message does that send to someone like Ishmael Leggett, who has one more year to make something happen?

The A-10 Conference hates you. Might be time to test the P6 waters.
I would hope that he is not going to base his decision on all conference selections. I don't think that is the type of player Ish is.
We're running an entire program on hope these days, so I guess I'll hope with you.

It's still a massive slap in the face.
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Davidson and Bonnies both finish 8-10 and have 4 players collectively honored. That's a joke.
After further analysis Ish should have gotten in over Daryl Banks at St Bona.
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Part of the problem also might be that we probably put more time in to thinking about these awards then the coaches who decide them do.
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It should not surprise anyone that the 14th place team was shut out in the annual all league awards.

I would even appear with the 15th place team Loyola having someone named to the all rookie team, URI is the only member of the 15 school league to have no representation at all for any award. Could not even snag an academic award.
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bigappleram wrote: 1 year ago Davidson and Bonnies both finish 8-10 and have 4 players collectively honored. That's a joke.
After further analysis Ish should have gotten in over Daryl Banks at St Bona.
Loyer and Mennenga from Davidson are both deserving.
Yann Farrell from SBU okay with All-Rookie Team.
You can make a case for Ish over Banks for 3rd Team, but really not worth getting worked up over.

I am much more concerned about our team for next season and expect a big jump.
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Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago
bigappleram wrote: 1 year ago Davidson and Bonnies both finish 8-10 and have 4 players collectively honored. That's a joke.
After further analysis Ish should have gotten in over Daryl Banks at St Bona.
Loyer and Mennenga from Davidson are both deserving.
Yann Farrell from SBU okay with All-Rookie Team.
You can make a case for Ish over Banks for 3rd Team, but really not worth getting worked up over.

I am much more concerned about our team for next season and expect a big jump.
Jersey I swear you and I share the same brain.

You have a much more calmer way of saying things, however. :lol:
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I’m happy for Brendan Adams. He worked hard, always represented himself and his family well, and put together a nice college career. He’s also ending his eligibility with two degrees, a bachelor’s degree he earned in three years at UConn and a master’s.
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Besides maybe player of the year, a teams record should have nothing to do with who makes the all conference teams. Ish was, objectively by all the statistics we collect and reference, better than guys who were selected over him.

I dare someone to find me another conference who’s #7 scorer was not on any of the THREE all conference teams
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Maybe you can dismiss all of us jabronis who think Ish should have been at least 3rd team. What about this guy?

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Re: A10 All Conference TBA Tuesday

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The URI Sports Information Dept was able to take it easy this morning. No need to do any press releases or tweets.
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