A10 Tournament March 7-12 Barclays Bracket and Results

[Rhody15]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

[PeterRamTime]

this team's longest win streak has been 2 games. they'll be lucky to win 1 in brooklyn

We don't have to be lucky to beat La Salle c'mon

[RAM67]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

I don't know why, but I read that article a little differently than you did. Maybe it's my age and homerism.

[LoveThoseRams]

Those are 11 bad teams right there, holy smokes!

Who else is going Tuesday?
Blue man?
ECR?
Ramulous?

Barclay’s is certainly not going to open the upper deck.

We will be there Tuesday!

[LoveThoseRams]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

I don't know why, but I read that article a little differently than you did. Maybe it's my age and homerism.

I didn't read it that way either as to Leggett. The other quotes are exactly what a coach that had a losing season would say/ I do not see it as Cox-like specifically, but more of making chicken salad out of chicken @#$!

[McRam]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

Rhody 15, Do you thing Ish was all conference?

[Rhody15]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

Rhody 15, Do you thing Ish was all conference?

I haven’t looked at any other guards stats, but I don’t think it was that cut and dry where Archie should have said he’s not. Coaches usually try to build up their players postseason accolade chances, instead of the opposite.

Individually, yes I think he had an all conference type season. Ultimately I don’t think he makes it because of the teams record.

[rhodysurf]

I took it to mean he want all Conference preseason but yeah that’s a tough statement. Ish should be third team for sure

[Rhody Sody]

He might have meant first team. I mean he did say that Ish was most improved in the conference. That’s high praise for a player.

[section(105)]

second team for Ish. Archie’s statement with the tip off against Q, he copped to reality of opening shop with Bassey, Ish, Carey, Martin, and Samb. And a pack of unknowns.

[McRam]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

Rhody 15, Do you thing Ish was all conference?

I haven’t looked at any other guards stats, but I don’t think it was that cut and dry where Archie should have said he’s not. Coaches usually try to build up their players postseason accolade chances, instead of the opposite.

Individually, yes I think he had an all conference type season. Ultimately I don’t think he makes it because of the teams record.

15, I think Ish is a very special player who is unique in his strength, rebounding and his will to win. It is so hard to compare him to other players this year, since we were so weak and he was forced to do more than any other guards in the conference. As good as he was, his shooting percentage was just 40% and three point was 33%. His turnover and assists were exactly the same. Tough to be all conference with those indices. (On the other hand his rebounding at 5.8 and free throw at 84% were top tier)

Like yourself, I have not looked up all the guards in the league, but guessing that Ace Baldwin and Uri Collins will be first team.
Quisenberry, Bishop, Adams and Erik Reynolds from St. Joes, and of course Loyer from Davidson have better scoring stats than Ish.
So that would make 7 guards theoretically ahead of Ish.

In some ways keeping Ish off the spotlight with All Conference honors might help the Portal situation. And of course, if Ish is most improved player that is a plus for Archie and the program in selling recruits and transfers.

[Rhodymob05]

Ish is a good player but struggled too often to be all conference.

[reef]

I didn’t find anything wrong with Arch comments he basically said he was the most improved player in the conference

[bigappleram]

By metrics Ish was the 3rd most improved player (Dominguez and Polite 1 and 2). He was around the 7th or 8th most effective guard in the league. He will likely just miss out on all conf bc of how poorly we performed. Played on the fringe of all league for most of the year. His significant improvement is getting a bit lost in this dreadful season. Retaining him is Archie’s #1 job in roster construction for next year.

[NYGFan_Section208]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

Rhody 15, Do you thing Ish was all conference?

I haven’t looked at any other guards stats, but I don’t think it was that cut and dry where Archie should have said he’s not. Coaches usually try to build up their players postseason accolade chances, instead of the opposite.

Individually, yes I think he had an all conference type season. Ultimately I don’t think he makes it because of the teams record.

Maybe it's already been decided and he knows?

[Blue Man]

Those are 11 bad teams right there, holy smokes!

Who else is going Tuesday?
Blue man?
ECR?
Ramulous?

Barclay’s is certainly not going to open the upper deck.

I'll see you all Saturday

[ramster]

Tuesday Games - All on ESPN+

• Game 1: 11:30am 12-Richmond NET 168 vs 13 UMASS NET 184 Richmond favored by -1.5 points

• Game 2: 2:00pm 10 St Joseph's NET 212 vs 15 Loyola NET 268 St Joseph's favored by -2.0 points

• Game 3: 4:30pm 11 LaSalle NET 241 vs 14 URI NET 252 LaSalle favored by - 1.0 points

[steveystuds06]

https://www.providencejournal.com/story ... 961102007/

Archie flat out admitting Leggett isn’t all conference. Ouch. That won’t help his case. Pretty surprised to see him come out and say that.

Also have some Cox type quotes in here as well.

“We’ll give it a go down there”

“…we’ll see how that goes”

“We played good ball a few times”

“We competed very hard against good teams”

I don't know why, but I read that article a little differently than you did. Maybe it's my age and homerism.

I didn't read it that way either as to Leggett. The other quotes are exactly what a coach that had a losing season would say/ I do not see it as Cox-like specifically, but more of making chicken salad out of chicken @#$!

I didn't read it that way either. It didn't remind me of Cox at all..

I thought what he said was spot on. This team has many first-year players, and we were very inexperienced..Some of those first players got better as the season went on. We have played close games but don't know how to win yet. We really battled against the top teams. We needed our upperclassmen to step up.. Ish is one of the most improved players in the league. I agree with all of that.

[Jersey77]

Tuesday Games - All on ESPN+

• Game 1: 11:30am 12-Richmond NET 168 vs 13 UMASS NET 184 Richmond favored by -1.5 points

• Game 2: 2:00pm 10 St Joseph's NET 212 vs 15 Loyola NET 268 St Joseph's favored by -2.0 points

• Game 3: 4:30pm 11 LaSalle NET 241 vs 14 URI NET 252 LaSalle favored by - 1.0 points

Of the A10 games today, I think we probably have the best chance of having the upset win.
Prior to the season, I thought La Salle would finish last.
Fran Dunphy probably got the most he can out of this squad.

UMass has struggled with all their injury woes and have been without their 2 top players Fernandes and Cross.
Richmond has been disappointing this season but still has one of the best players in the conference in Burton.

I think St. Joe's should be able to handle Loyola.

[section(105)]

Spiders up 31-18, 1/2 over UMass

[ramster]

Tuesday Games - All on ESPN+

• Game 1: 11:30am 12-Richmond NET 168 vs 13 UMASS NET 184 Richmond favored by -1.5 points

• Game 2: 2:00pm 10 St Joseph's NET 212 vs 15 Loyola NET 268 St Joseph's favored by -2.0 points

• Game 3: 4:30pm 11 LaSalle NET 241 vs 14 URI NET 252 LaSalle favored by - 1.0 points

Of the A10 games today, I think we probably have the best chance of having the upset win.
Prior to the season, I thought La Salle would finish last.
Fran Dunphy probably got the most he can out of this squad.

UMass has struggled with all their injury woes and have been without their 2 top players Fernandes and Cross.
Richmond has been disappointing this season but still has one of the best players in the conference in Burton.

I think St. Joe's should be able to handle Loyola.

Cross is playing today. He started.

[Jersey77]

Tuesday Games - All on ESPN+

• Game 1: 11:30am 12-Richmond NET 168 vs 13 UMASS NET 184 Richmond favored by -1.5 points

• Game 2: 2:00pm 10 St Joseph's NET 212 vs 15 Loyola NET 268 St Joseph's favored by -2.0 points

• Game 3: 4:30pm 11 LaSalle NET 241 vs 14 URI NET 252 LaSalle favored by - 1.0 points

Of the A10 games today, I think we probably have the best chance of having the upset win.
Prior to the season, I thought La Salle would finish last.
Fran Dunphy probably got the most he can out of this squad.

UMass has struggled with all their injury woes and have been without their 2 top players Fernandes and Cross.
Richmond has been disappointing this season but still has one of the best players in the conference in Burton.

I think St. Joe's should be able to handle Loyola.

Cross is playing today. He started.

Yep see that, I figured Richmond would win.
Burton already with 28 pts.

[reef]

Say it ain’t so Frank Martin and the UMass Minutemen , UMass fans must be up in arms after laying a major egg

[Rhody15]

Say it ain’t so Frank Martin and the UMass Minutemen , UMass fans must be up in arms after laying a major egg

They didn’t lay an egg, they were predicted 8th, not a tournament team, and dealt with a myriad of injuries to their best players this season.

[LoveThoseRams]

Really hard to watch. Martin stopped coaching at the beginning of the 2nd half. Players were visibly defeated and confidence gone.

[Blue Man]

Say it ain’t so Frank Martin and the UMass Minutemen , UMass fans must be up in arms after laying a major egg

Makes no sense. I was told they were in "win now" mode. Yet, here they are, eliminated as early as possible with no postseason opportunities.

Man, why didn't Arch go and get all these high profile ready to play guys!? We could've finished 13th instead of 14th!!!

[bigappleram]

Say it ain’t so Frank Martin and the UMass Minutemen , UMass fans must be up in arms after laying a major egg

They didn’t lay an egg, they were predicted 8th, not a tournament team, and dealt with a myriad of injuries to their best players this season.

Fernandes loss was HUGE but they absolutely just laid an egg dude. They got absolutely boatraced by an 8-10 team. Ask their fans if they laid an egg or just turn on twitter and see for yourself.

[rjv]

OMG UMASS...23.8%field and 6.3% 1-16 from 3pt.....
38 points that is really bad!!!

[Rhody15]

Say it ain’t so Frank Martin and the UMass Minutemen , UMass fans must be up in arms after laying a major egg

They didn’t lay an egg, they were predicted 8th, not a tournament team, and dealt with a myriad of injuries to their best players this season.

Fernandes loss was HUGE but they absolutely just laid an egg dude. They got absolutely boatraced by an 8-10 team. Ask their fans if they laid an egg or just turn on twitter and see for yourself.

In this game yes they got crushed. I wouldn’t say they laid an egg for the whole season though.

[ace]

No one wants a first game exit from the conference tournament to end their whole season, but there is something kind of clean about it finally being over, now that transfer season has become such a thing. You have your end of season meetings with your own guys, decisions are made, roster openings become clear, and you ramp up to get your roster straight for next season. It never ends for coaches!

[bigappleram]

They didn’t lay an egg, they were predicted 8th, not a tournament team, and dealt with a myriad of injuries to their best players this season.

Fernandes loss was HUGE but they absolutely just laid an egg dude. They got absolutely boatraced by an 8-10 team. Ask their fans if they laid an egg or just turn on twitter and see for yourself.

In this game yes they got crushed. I wouldn’t say they laid an egg for the whole season though.

Seemed pretty obvious Reef meant today with that comment. Generally "they laid an egg" is in reference to a single game versus an entire season. In your words cmon man you are better than that. You should spend less time trying to argue with every post and more time reading them.

[Blue Man]

This game was the definition of an egg.

As for the season, UMass was officially picked 8th - I saw them as high as 5th in some articles. We were picked 9th, I never saw us anywhere near as high as UMass.

Both teams finished 5 spots lower than picked. Both teams had injuries/player issues. They lost 2 of their best players for a chunk of the season. We lost 3 of ours.

Whatever anyone is saying about URI's performance throughout the regular season should be equally attributed to UMass and vice versa.

The only caveat I give URI is that we clearly targeted young pieces that were going to be here, while UMass went with instantly ready guys. And not for nothing UMass retained a lot more talent than URI did.

[Obadiah]

No question this was a bad season for UMass and this last game was a disaster. To think otherwise is to be oblivious to what the UMass fan base is saying about their team. Frank Martin in his first season has lots of questions to answer. The question now is whether URI, also under a first year coach, can do better at Barclay's in their first round game. Let's hope so.

[Jersey77]

This game was the definition of an egg.

As for the season, UMass was officially picked 8th - I saw them as high as 5th in some articles. We were picked 9th, I never saw us anywhere near as high as UMass.

Both teams finished 5 spots lower than picked. Both teams had injuries/player issues. They lost 2 of their best players for a chunk of the season. We lost 3 of ours.

Whatever anyone is saying about URI's performance throughout the regular season should be equally attributed to UMass and vice versa.

The only caveat I give URI is that we clearly targeted young pieces that were going to be here, while UMass went with instantly ready guys. And not for nothing UMass retained a lot more talent than URI did.

Don't dismiss UMass's young talent as evidenced by our loss to them at the RC.
They also have 5 recruits committed for 23-24.

This off-season will be huge for Archie to prove we can take that big next step forward.

[ace]

Loyola-St. Joe’s has managed to be a pretty entertaining game… not good exactly, but entertaining.

[bigappleram]

I was admittedly bullish on Umass and thought they could/should finish top 6ish. Losing Fernandes was massive for them; he was the straw that stirred the drink. Can’t underestimate that.

But they still massively underachieved bc they had experienced mid conference level talent up and down the roster (cross, weeks, leveque, luis, kante, dominguez) that on paper were much more proven than our guys. Them finishing 13th can only be seen as underachieving.

[ramster]

This could not have worked out better. Avoiding George Mason is break!

Guessing LaSalle we are pick ‘‘em to 1 pt favorite, Duquesne we r 41/2 and Fordham 31/2 underdogs.

More than a hope and prayer!!

Not a chance in hell we’ll be favored against La Salle.

[ramster]

Thursday Quarterfinals

11:30am Davidson vs VCU
2:00pm George Mason vs St Louis
5:00pm Dayton vs St Joseph's
7:30pm Fordham vs LaSalle

[RF1]

George Mason was down 55-51 with just over 2 minutes left. Closed out the game with an 11-2 run to win 62-57. The Patriots record is now 20-12. Their NET was #132 prior to the game. Their numbers are not at large worthy for either the NCAA or NIT.

[reef]

I figured Davidson would beat St Bonnie’s , I thought Richmond would have a great shot v Mason fell a little short

[ramster]

Thursday Quarterfinals

• 11:30am 8-Davidson vs 1-VCU -6.5 points

• 2:00pm 5-George Mason vs 4-St Louis -4 points

• 5:00pm 10-St Joseph's vs 2-Dayton -10.5 points

• 7:30pm 11-LaSalle vs 3-Fordham -5 points

St Joseph's and LaSalle will be playing their 3rd consecutive game today

Davidson and Fordham with 1st year Head Coaches

All 4 Games on USA Network

[LoveThoseRams]

Been here since Tuesday. Passing on the earlier games to head to MSG to cheer on UConn. Hopefully they put a smack down on our northern neighbors.

[ramster]

1st game today with Spookydog ranking format

Rankings VCU (Davidson):
NCAA NET: 66 (145)
RPI: 31 (135)
KenPom: 76 (134)
BPI: 63 (149)
Sagarin: 56 (105)
Barttovik: 71 (125)

[Rhody15]

Been here since Tuesday. Passing on the earlier games to head to MSG to cheer on UConn. Hopefully they put a smack down on our northern neighbors.

Go Huskies.

With a loss, wouldn't shock me if PC falls to the First Four.

[reef]

1st game today with Spookydog ranking format

Rankings VCU (Davidson):
NCAA NET: 66 (145)
RPI: 31 (135)
KenPom: 76 (134)
BPI: 63 (149)
Sagarin: 56 (105)
Barttovik: 71 (125)

VCU takes care of business 71-53

[steviep123]

Just curious if anyone knows (sorry if already posted) why there's a day off in the quarterfinals. Is it simply due to the extra day for the bottom 6 teams to play, so the tourney is now 5 days instead of 4? And why between the quarters and semis? Having Friday off seems odd. Might be better to do the off day before the quarters. Just thinking out loud. When I first saw it, I assumed there was a scheduling conflict with the Barclay's Center, but there's no event listed tomorrow.

[gorhody89]

Did I really just put money on Fordham. Gotta be a first

[LoveThoseRams]

Been here since Tuesday. Passing on the earlier games to head to MSG to cheer on UConn. Hopefully they put a smack down on our northern neighbors.

Go Huskies.

With a loss, wouldn't shock me if PC falls to the First Four.

Oh Man are they getting #%^*+ slapped!

[LoveThoseRams]

Been here since Tuesday. Passing on the earlier games to head to MSG to cheer on UConn. Hopefully they put a smack down on our northern neighbors.

Go Huskies.

With a loss, wouldn't shock me if PC falls to the First Four.

Oh Man are they getting #%^*+ slapped!

[steviep123]

Been here since Tuesday. Passing on the earlier games to head to MSG to cheer on UConn. Hopefully they put a smack down on our northern neighbors.

Go Huskies.

With a loss, wouldn't shock me if PC falls to the First Four.

Oh Man are they getting #%^*+ slapped!

I'll preface this with I haven't been following college basketball as a whole this year and don't know the NET numbers (as skewed as they are) and the q1 ,2, etc games. Does this blowout put them on the wrong side of the bubble?