I've always wondered how these recruiting gurus tell the difference between player 100 and player 101.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agotheblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoI'll hold my thoughts until the early signing next October. We land some high power recruits, top 100, and things will change quick. We land 2* players, well, let's hope we don't.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑1 year ago Why do so many of you just assume it will be years before we are good again?
You guys realize Duquesne was 6-24 last year right?
They are now 11-4 and look totally different.
We still really have no idea how we will look by the end of this year, or next year and especially in three years.
Duquesne isn't some outlier either. It's extremely common for teams to have quick turnarounds these days. Happens all the time.
Don't assume our roster is already set for next year either. Guys transfer out all the time and you can always find someone in the portal.
We are still just an exceptionally young team whose been banged up, sick and everything in between in their first year.
I'm frustrated too and it's not like I don't have doubts, but sitting there thinking we are doomed for years to come is stupid.
If you keep repeating yourself, so will I.
We have multiple Top 100 kids on this team.
Only one of them is contributing.
Stop caring about rankings.
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The other Duquesne game today was a Master Class in gutting out a win. Lady Rams had a dominant first quarter (almost 100-point pace and 10 point lead), a putrid second quarter (7 points including a 4:15 scoring drought to start the quarter), a mediocre third quarter and were down by 1 with 3 minutes left before outscoring the Dukes 12-4.
The difference is Tammi has created a culture of success with strong shooters, solid veterans and great transfers. The men are ... a long way off right now.
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Not sure Red, but if you land a top 100, you get a splash on ESPN and CBS Sports.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year agoI've always wondered how these recruiting gurus tell the difference between player 100 and player 101.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agotheblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago
I'll hold my thoughts until the early signing next October. We land some high power recruits, top 100, and things will change quick. We land 2* players, well, let's hope we don't.
If you keep repeating yourself, so will I.
We have multiple Top 100 kids on this team.
Only one of them is contributing.
Stop caring about rankings.
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And everyone knows those articles always leads to A10 titles and NCAA tourney births.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoNot sure Red, but if you land a top 100, you get a splash on ESPN and CBS Sports.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year agoI've always wondered how these recruiting gurus tell the difference between player 100 and player 101.
I don’t believe PC has one Top 100 kid who was there as a freshman.
How’s that working out for them this year?
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They have a NET of like 65 and are on the outside looking in?Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoAnd everyone knows those articles always leads to A10 titles and NCAA tourney births.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoNot sure Red, but if you land a top 100, you get a splash on ESPN and CBS Sports.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year ago
I've always wondered how these recruiting gurus tell the difference between player 100 and player 101.
I don’t believe PC has one Top 100 kid who was there as a freshman.
How’s that working out for them this year?
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All the intensity of a preseason scrimmage out there today.
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Sounds pretty good to me. We have been beyond an afterthought for 5 years. PC has their fans excited and squarely in the NCAA tourney talk again.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoThey have a NET of like 65 and are on the outside looking in?Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoAnd everyone knows those articles always leads to A10 titles and NCAA tourney births.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago
Not sure Red, but if you land a top 100, you get a splash on ESPN and CBS Sports.
I don’t believe PC has one Top 100 kid who was there as a freshman.
How’s that working out for them this year?
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Yeah I wouldn’t worry what their NET is right now , if they take care of business they are most likely inRamStock wrote: ↑1 year agoSounds pretty good to me. We have been beyond an afterthought for 5 years. PC has their fans excited and squarely in the NCAA tourney talk again.
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theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoThey have a NET of like 65 and are on the outside looking in?Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year agoAnd everyone knows those articles always leads to A10 titles and NCAA tourney births.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago
Not sure Red, but if you land a top 100, you get a splash on ESPN and CBS Sports.
I don’t believe PC has one Top 100 kid who was there as a freshman.
How’s that working out for them this year?
Don’t play dumb, they’re well on their way to another tournament birth.
They do however have multiple Top 100 transfers who are producing. According to you though, Top 100 transfers don’t count as top 100 kids for whatever reason. Needs to be a true freshman in your eyes.
It’s confusing how much you’re fascinated with recruiting rankings. That’s literally all you care and post about.
We have multiple ranked kids on this team, and had multiple under Cox.
It has resulted in absolute shit.
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theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoNot sure Red, but if you land a top 100, you get a splash on ESPN and CBS Sports.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year agoI've always wondered how these recruiting gurus tell the difference between player 100 and player 101.
Some perspective on Top 100 freshman for this season.
15 of the Top 100 freshman are averaging 10+ points.
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Rudder,ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoThanks for the picture Rudder. The Arena looks great.rhodyrudder wrote: ↑1 year ago First time here for me in many years…
Love Pittsburgh, but not been to a game at Duquesne since maybe ‘04?
They used to play at the Civic Arena, aka the Igloo.
The renovations are fantastic!image.jpg
New Scoreboard. Let us know if they have replays on that new board.
They did replays on the Georgia State newborn -lot's of replays
Would like to know the A10truly discourages or does not allow replays or is that hogwash.
Your picture makes me wish I'd made the trip
How many replays do you think they did at the game?
Did they show continuous live action on the screen like they do at many Pro Football Stadiums? Makes it easier to see the game depending upon where seated.
How was the $1Hot Dog and Beer Event? Do you think drew in incremental fans? Did it liven up the crowd?
Any insights from being there live?
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NOT 1 FRESHMAN TOP 100 RECRUIT IS ON THIS TEAM OR EVER ON COX'S TEAM. I don't care about bust 4* transfers.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Don’t play dumb, they’re well on their way to another tournament birth.
They do however have multiple Top 100 transfers who are producing. According to you though, Top 100 transfers don’t count as top 100 kids for whatever reason. Needs to be a true freshman in your eyes.
It’s confusing how much you’re fascinated with recruiting rankings. That’s literally all you care and post about.
We have multiple ranked kids on this team, and had multiple under Cox.
It has resulted in absolute shit.
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Upside for the day? We did not have to watch the Mitchell’s…….ready for incoming fire
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theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoNOT 1 FRESHMAN TOP 100 RECRUIT IS ON THIS TEAM OR EVER ON COX'S TEAM. I don't care about bust 4* transfers.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Don’t play dumb, they’re well on their way to another tournament birth.
They do however have multiple Top 100 transfers who are producing. According to you though, Top 100 transfers don’t count as top 100 kids for whatever reason. Needs to be a true freshman in your eyes.
It’s confusing how much you’re fascinated with recruiting rankings. That’s literally all you care and post about.
We have multiple ranked kids on this team, and had multiple under Cox.
It has resulted in absolute shit.
That is just blatantly false.
Everyone’s favorite, Jermaine Harris, was a Top 100 freshman.
And you saying you don’t care about 4* top 100 transfers does not take away from the stone cold fact that they were indeed top 100 high school kids.
Cooley doesn’t seem to have problems with getting productive Top 100 transfers.
You’re just changing the goalposts to try and fit your narrative, and you’re failing miserably.
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Lotsa replays, didn’t know they had $1 dogs…damnnnnramster wrote: ↑1 year ago
Rudder,
How many replays do you think they did at the game?
Did they show continuous live action on the screen like they do at many Pro Football Stadiums? Makes it easier to see the game depending upon where seated.
How was the $1Hot Dog and Beer Event? Do you think drew in incremental fans? Did it liven up the crowd?
Any insights from being there live?
Yes live action…
Very cool atmosphere.
RC is better overall imo, but it was a good time.
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I think Makhi is starting for Arkansas, a top ~25 program. Would we be better with him this year? BTW: I disliked the Mitchells as well. The truth is that Cox would have placed a better team on the floor this year than Archie. But, it is not Archie's fault.
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I think it was 65-60:at the 6 min mark. Scored 61 for game
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Many URI Fans at the game? Did many make the trip from Rhody?rhodyrudder wrote: ↑1 year agoLotsa replays, didn’t know they had $1 dogs…damnnnnramster wrote: ↑1 year ago
Rudder,
How many replays do you think they did at the game?
Did they show continuous live action on the screen like they do at many Pro Football Stadiums? Makes it easier to see the game depending upon where seated.
How was the $1Hot Dog and Beer Event? Do you think drew in incremental fans? Did it liven up the crowd?
Any insights from being there live?
Yes live action…
Very cool atmosphere.
RC is better overall imo, but it was a good time.
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Still believe in the staff but there's not a player on this team without a major flaw in their game. This is a bad team and I'm sure Archie knows it.
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Same I still believe in the process , DH was 8-21 year 1 and we are on the same path
Let’s see how we are in year 3 I still think we will be on the same trajectory that DH was , I have trust in Arch that he gets the right players in here to get to that goal
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Not reading through the whole thread but want to say that I saw a ton of drives (lay ups) result in URI chucking it as hard as possible off the backboard which results in missed baskets. That settles down with maturity but if those fell, URI wins.
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Happy New Year all. I’m not sure all this team needs is experience…let’s beat the dead horse…they need talent. Bray and Ish are good players, but I wouldn’t say they are alphas on a good team. Who else on this team projects to be that? You will have to squint real hard to see someone on this team turning into one anytime soon, since none have shown much than an occasional flash.
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Agree with this. We are a few years away by the looks of things.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago Happy New Year all. I’m not sure all this team needs is experience…let’s beat the dead horse…they need talent. Bray and Ish are good players, but I wouldn’t say they are alphas on a good team. Who else on this team projects to be that? You will have to squint real hard to see someone on this team turning into one anytime soon, since none have shown much than an occasional flash.
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DH brought better players in year 1 even though they were ineligible.
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I agree with this. I think the talent level brought in this year is way below what most expected. The Miller name was expected to bring in higher quality players but being out of the game for a year was a bigger hurdle than anticipated. The next hurdle is to get talent to want to come play for a 20 loss team. I expect quite a bit of roster turnover next year and that should be a good thing. Hopefully Archie brings in some experienced transfers as this year’s approach doesn’t seem to be going as well as most (possibly including Archie) had envisioned.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago Happy New Year all. I’m not sure all this team needs is experience…let’s beat the dead horse…they need talent. Bray and Ish are good players, but I wouldn’t say they are alphas on a good team. Who else on this team projects to be that? You will have to squint real hard to see someone on this team turning into one anytime soon, since none have shown much than an occasional flash.
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Small group…
I did chat with Stone at the airport for at least an hour.
He is super friendly and very knowledgeable!
I asked about Varsity and the ESPN+ situation.
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Thanks 77,Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoGood early call Ramster.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoPerhaps the most glaring gap is in 3P Shooting:Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Not surprised, but think we cover.
The backcourt match-up should be interesting but they have a frontcourt advantage.
Some comparisons:
URI- 40% FG, 30% 3pt, scoring avg- 66 pts, negative assist/turnover ratio (153-182, 12 games)
Dukes- 45% FG,36% 3pt, scoring avg- 75 pts, positive assist/turnover ratio (211-167, 14 games)
Also, but probably doesn't mean much, we haven't won at Duquesne since 2016-2017.
Duquesne is 3rd in the A10 at 36.1%
URI is dead last in the A10 at 29.6%
We shot 30% 3pt today, on the other hand Duquesne shot 45% 3pt.
URI 6-20
Duquesne 9-20
That’s the same number of 3P attempts but Duquesne made 3 more 3Ps than URI for 9 incremental points - they won by 11
Several of our 3’s were forced by the shot clock running down. Happened twice to Thomas who had to force up because shot clock was about zero.
We need to pass quicker and better to get off better shots. Duquesne seemed to pass unselfishly to get better quality 3P shots.
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I think in this day and age you can turn things around quickly if Arch can find the right playersRhody22 wrote: ↑1 year agoI agree with this. I think the talent level brought in this year is way below what most expected. The Miller name was expected to bring in higher quality players but being out of the game for a year was a bigger hurdle than anticipated. The next hurdle is to get talent to want to come play for a 20 loss team. I expect quite a bit of roster turnover next year and that should be a good thing. Hopefully Archie brings in some experienced transfers as this year’s approach doesn’t seem to be going as well as most (possibly including Archie) had envisioned.RIFan wrote: ↑1 year ago Happy New Year all. I’m not sure all this team needs is experience…let’s beat the dead horse…they need talent. Bray and Ish are good players, but I wouldn’t say they are alphas on a good team. Who else on this team projects to be that? You will have to squint real hard to see someone on this team turning into one anytime soon, since none have shown much than an occasional flash.
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3P shooting remains the problem - Rory who is supposed to be our best shooter has not looked comfortable taking outside shots. He passed up a few open looks that if he was a true sniper he would have taken. He has a nice shot so maybe it comes around but I don’t think he ever becomes more than a guy who bangs a couple 3s a game.
The rest of the team is just poor at shooting. Bray is going to be streaky just looking at how he shoots. Weston can be average. It is just frustrating to me that for we don’t have guys who can shoot the freakin ball. That is basketball now and it has been for some time. These guys are better than last year (marginally) but we need to massively improve.
The rest of the team is just poor at shooting. Bray is going to be streaky just looking at how he shoots. Weston can be average. It is just frustrating to me that for we don’t have guys who can shoot the freakin ball. That is basketball now and it has been for some time. These guys are better than last year (marginally) but we need to massively improve.
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rhodylaw wrote: ↑1 year ago 3P shooting remains the problem - Rory who is supposed to be our best shooter has not looked comfortable taking outside shots. He passed up a few open looks that if he was a true sniper he would have taken. He has a nice shot so maybe it comes around but I don’t think he ever becomes more than a guy who bangs a couple 3s a game.
The rest of the team is just poor at shooting. Bray is going to be streaky just looking at how he shoots. Weston can be average. It is just frustrating to me that for we don’t have guys who can shoot the freakin ball. That is basketball now and it has been for some time. These guys are better than last year (marginally) but we need to massively improve.
Last years team beats this years team.
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Agree that watching a team with no good shooters is very frustrating. No one on the current roster is changing that no matter how much experience they get. Archie needs much better talent and especially shooters. I think this team is worse than last years. I haven’t seen any positives from this roster.rhodylaw wrote: ↑1 year ago 3P shooting remains the problem - Rory who is supposed to be our best shooter has not looked comfortable taking outside shots. He passed up a few open looks that if he was a true sniper he would have taken. He has a nice shot so maybe it comes around but I don’t think he ever becomes more than a guy who bangs a couple 3s a game.
The rest of the team is just poor at shooting. Bray is going to be streaky just looking at how he shoots. Weston can be average. It is just frustrating to me that for we don’t have guys who can shoot the freakin ball. That is basketball now and it has been for some time. These guys are better than last year (marginally) but we need to massively improve.
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I don’t think this team is much worse than last year. At least this year we have the excuse of a lot of new faces. The problem is the lack of shooting will not change. Some of these guys will get marginally better, but there is no player with a plus shot on the team. Most teams we play have 2 or 3, and just watching them knock down threes (or at least draw the D out to cover because there is a threat) is maddening.RamStock wrote: ↑1 year agoAgree that watching a team with no good shooters is very frustrating. No one on the current roster is changing that no matter how much experience they get. Archie needs much better talent and especially shooters. I think this team is worse than last years. I haven’t seen any positives from this roster.rhodylaw wrote: ↑1 year ago 3P shooting remains the problem - Rory who is supposed to be our best shooter has not looked comfortable taking outside shots. He passed up a few open looks that if he was a true sniper he would have taken. He has a nice shot so maybe it comes around but I don’t think he ever becomes more than a guy who bangs a couple 3s a game.
The rest of the team is just poor at shooting. Bray is going to be streaky just looking at how he shoots. Weston can be average. It is just frustrating to me that for we don’t have guys who can shoot the freakin ball. That is basketball now and it has been for some time. These guys are better than last year (marginally) but we need to massively improve.
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Stevey and McRam,steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year agoHe played 14 minutes after Archie put him in at the end of the game. The least amount of minutes for players that were in the rotation. He ended up having one more shot where I thought he had a nice move, and it could have been a foul, and he picked up a nice block to prevent a dunk from happening. He was battling in the post as well. I love Malik's hustle, but we all know who he is. If Weston played the number of minutes that Malik gets, I think he would score more than Malik and probably be a little less effective on the boards/defending. The difference is Malik is a 5th-year senior, and Weston is a freshman.McRam wrote: ↑1 year ago. How many did he have today? Seemed like more than 15. Weston knows how to play tough. This kid will be good.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year ago I truly don't understand why Weston barely sees the floor. There is no reason why Malik should be playing 25+ minutes, and Weston can't even crack 15 minutes.
If we continue to lose these games, which seems incredibly likely, I'd rather see guys like Weston and Hutch play more. Next season with Bilau and Foumena back, I would be surprised if Rory sticks around. Unless Archie thinks he could end up being a piece, he doesn't look like an A10 player to me..I think Samb, Bilau, Foumena, and Tchikou have more potential...
We play some beautiful basketball in certain stretches. I'm going to try and focus on that.
Good points on Weston and Martin. I like Weston's upside potential and hope continues to improve his play as he has the past few games. He will be pushing for more minutes from somebody, maybe minutes from multiple players and not just one as in Martin.
It's tough one on Martin. He played 28 minutes and had a game high 11 rebounds, 2-6 FG, 3-4 FT, 7 points. Martin was the ONLY player on URI of 9 players with a +3. Everyone else was - (negative).
2nd most rebounds in the game was Alex Tchikou with 8 in only 15 minutes of play and he had a blocked shot
Samb only had 3 rebounds in 17 minutes.
Freeman had a tough night going only 2-11 FG, 1-5 3P, 5-8 FT, only 1 assist in 30 minutes and a game high worst -13. Maybe Martin moves into Freeman and Leggett minutes next time they are off and Weston slides into Martin's spot.
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Ya Martin was the only player rebounding so I get why he was playing so much. I guess my main frustration is Weston can look good in small stretches but gets pulled immediately. I really want to see what he can do with 25+ minutes.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoStevey and McRam,steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year agoHe played 14 minutes after Archie put him in at the end of the game. The least amount of minutes for players that were in the rotation. He ended up having one more shot where I thought he had a nice move, and it could have been a foul, and he picked up a nice block to prevent a dunk from happening. He was battling in the post as well. I love Malik's hustle, but we all know who he is. If Weston played the number of minutes that Malik gets, I think he would score more than Malik and probably be a little less effective on the boards/defending. The difference is Malik is a 5th-year senior, and Weston is a freshman.
If we continue to lose these games, which seems incredibly likely, I'd rather see guys like Weston and Hutch play more. Next season with Bilau and Foumena back, I would be surprised if Rory sticks around. Unless Archie thinks he could end up being a piece, he doesn't look like an A10 player to me..I think Samb, Bilau, Foumena, and Tchikou have more potential...
We play some beautiful basketball in certain stretches. I'm going to try and focus on that.
Good points on Weston and Martin. I like Weston's upside potential and hope continues to improve his play as he has the past few games. He will be pushing for more minutes from somebody, maybe minutes from multiple players and not just one as in Martin.
It's tough one on Martin. He played 28 minutes and had a game high 11 rebounds, 2-6 FG, 3-4 FT, 7 points. Martin was the ONLY player on URI of 9 players with a +3. Everyone else was - (negative).
2nd most rebounds in the game was Alex Tchikou with 8 in only 15 minutes of play and he had a blocked shot
Samb only had 3 rebounds in 17 minutes.
Freeman had a tough night going only 2-11 FG, 1-5 3P, 5-8 FT, only 1 assist in 30 minutes and a game high worst -13. Maybe Martin moves into Freeman and Leggett minutes next time they are off and Weston slides into Martin's spot.
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I kind of wonder what the internal defensive metrics are on Weston, or, the scouting perspective on that. I'd also note that for whatever flashes of potential he shows, it's hard to identify a consistent, valuable portion of his game. He's shooting 32 percent from the field, he's only "creating" 8.6 shots per 40 minutes, he gets to the line at an OK rate, he's not a great rebounder or passer... It's average or below average across the board. There's just nothing that suggests he should get a lot more playing time, except that there is some "mystery" to the fact that we haven't seen a ton of him, vs. known quantities like Martin and Carey.
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I think the because he transferred from a BE school (where he hardly played due to injury) plus the fact that he was at the time a consensus four-star prospect and the 70th ranked overall recruit in the country underlies the belief he should have more PT. I'd go with Archie's judgement on this.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year ago I kind of wonder what the internal defensive metrics are on Weston, or, the scouting perspective on that. I'd also note that for whatever flashes of potential he shows, it's hard to identify a consistent, valuable portion of his game. He's shooting 32 percent from the field, he's only "creating" 8.6 shots per 40 minutes, he gets to the line at an OK rate, he's not a great rebounder or passer... It's average or below average across the board. There's just nothing that suggests he should get a lot more playing time, except that there is some "mystery" to the fact that we haven't seen a ton of him, vs. known quantities like Martin and Carey.
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Re: 12/31 | Duquesne | 1:00PM (ESPN+)
Yeah. I'm biased the other way I realize, because I grew up reading "Moneyball" and stats-y stuff, but I'm always leery of guys with reputations for athleticism that in no way translate to their stat line. At the time, Tim Thomas was the poster child for this at the NBA level, when at one point he was traded straight up for Keith Van Horn because the Knicks wanted to get "more athletic." (Van Horn's rebounding, steals, blocks and even dunk rate were at the same level or better at the time.)Obadiah wrote: ↑1 year agoI think the because he transferred from a BE school (where he hardly played due to injury) plus the fact that he was at the time a consensus four-star prospect and the 70th ranked overall recruit in the country underlies the belief he should have more PT. I'd go with Archie's judgement on this.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year ago I kind of wonder what the internal defensive metrics are on Weston, or, the scouting perspective on that. I'd also note that for whatever flashes of potential he shows, it's hard to identify a consistent, valuable portion of his game. He's shooting 32 percent from the field, he's only "creating" 8.6 shots per 40 minutes, he gets to the line at an OK rate, he's not a great rebounder or passer... It's average or below average across the board. There's just nothing that suggests he should get a lot more playing time, except that there is some "mystery" to the fact that we haven't seen a ton of him, vs. known quantities like Martin and Carey.
But, I realize Weston's not a finished product, and you don't have to glance that far down the roster to see an example of a player that has improved with more time (whether that means game action, age or both). Jalen Carey's per 40 minutes rebounds, steals and blocks have either stayed the same or improved while he's been here, while his fouls and TO have stayed level or gone down slightly. His first year at URI, the numbers were pretty bad across the board, but he's a decent rotational guy (14.3 PER this year, 14.4 last year) at least. Weston's been better his first year here vs. Carey's first year, but again, it's so kind of average that I don't think he's "earned" more than the 14 MPG he's getting right now.
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Re: 12/31 | Duquesne | 1:00PM (ESPN+)
A lot of good stuff above on Weston.
For me it is simply (and selfishly), I’d like to see him play a bit more so we can see what the young man has and can gain some experience for next year since we aren’t playing for anything this year.
For me it is simply (and selfishly), I’d like to see him play a bit more so we can see what the young man has and can gain some experience for next year since we aren’t playing for anything this year.
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Re: 12/31 | Duquesne | 1:00PM (ESPN+)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk ... plocalnews
Will freeman be here next year. Seems like Archie has his hands full with this kid
Will freeman be here next year. Seems like Archie has his hands full with this kid
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Re: 12/31 | Duquesne | 1:00PM (ESPN+)
I'm not counting Rory out as a 3 point shooter. He has struggled to date but look how bad Grant Williams was his rookie year out the gate with the Celtics and a few years later he was shooting them great. I doubt it takes that long for Rory to start feeling comfortable but it is a large step up in competition and the slow start has not helped his confidence.rhodylaw wrote: ↑1 year ago 3P shooting remains the problem - Rory who is supposed to be our best shooter has not looked comfortable taking outside shots. He passed up a few open looks that if he was a true sniper he would have taken. He has a nice shot so maybe it comes around but I don’t think he ever becomes more than a guy who bangs a couple 3s a game.
The rest of the team is just poor at shooting. Bray is going to be streaky just looking at how he shoots. Weston can be average. It is just frustrating to me that for we don’t have guys who can shoot the freakin ball. That is basketball now and it has been for some time. These guys are better than last year (marginally) but we need to massively improve.
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Re: 12/31 | Duquesne | 1:00PM (ESPN+)
I want this kid to be good. I really do. As I've said before, I met him during football season and he's a really good guy. But I don't like his attitude during games. Every time he gets taken out of a game, he puts his head down and sulks, or as he puts it, checks out. I thought when Archie benched him early in the year that he'd change. But , even by his own admission, he continues to do it. I get it. He's a competitor. He wants to be in the game. But if it affects him to the point of him 'checking out' and it affects his game performance, it's a problem. Hopefully he can learn from it and correct it. I'm rooting for him.ram1980 wrote: ↑1 year ago https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk ... plocalnews
Will freeman be here next year. Seems like Archie has his hands full with this kid
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Re: 12/31 | Duquesne | 1:00PM (ESPN+)
Definitely not the best choice of words when he mentions checking out , hopefully he’s just young and doesn’t know better , maybe he goes for 20 tonight and all is forgotten
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