2022-23 Prediction Contest Summary

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2022-23 Prediction Contest Summary

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There are 71 in this year’s contest. Nine of you predict a 20 win season, 19 predict a losing season.

ramster is the most optimistic across the board on all components except A-10 record where his 12-6 prediction is second to rhodylaw’s 13-5. His expectation is a high scoring team that will bring the largest season attendance in the history of the Ryan Center.

On the pessimistic side is spookydog, and this is not the first time on the gloomy side and he won the last contest when he offered the worst prediction. But he probably remembers that following Baron’s disastrous last season, Hurley won only 8 games in his first season. After the Cox mistake, can Miller do better than Hurley’s?

Also on the distaff side is SGreenwell which is jarring since he comes off as an astute and reasoned basketball observer. What is he seeing that others do not? Needless to say, we are all rooting for ramster and rhodylaw to take the prizes.

Here is the finalized list of all participants predictions sequenced from best record to worst. Let me know if you spot any errors in your bets. Good luck to all.


 2021-22 PREDICTION CONTEST SUMMARY

Poster
Regular Season Record	
A-10 Record	
Team Scoring Average	
Top Scorer/Average, PPG	
Average Attendance

1.	ramster	           23-8	 12-6	75.00	Weston, 16.30	6,300

2.	rhodylaw	   22-9	 13-5	72.85	Carey, 14.75	6,251

3.	Billyboy78	   21-10 11-7	74.57	Freeman, 16.84	5,749
4.	alldayrhodyrams02  21-10 11-7	69.25	Freeman, 14.69	5,145

5.	jaywin86	   20-11 12-6	70.01	Freeman, 12.88	5,412
6.	TruePoint	   20-11 11-7	71.80	Freeman, 14.50	4,850
7.      jcru 		   20-11 11-7	68.75	Weston, 14.80	5,700
8.	rhodyrudder	   20-11 10-8	69.69	Martin, 11.59	5,999
9.	HASwatTeam	   20-11  9-9	67.39	Weston, 12.23	5,034

10.	KevanBoyles	   19-12 11-7	71.01	Freeman, 15.40	5,651
11.	Rhodymob05	   19-12 11-7	70.45	Weston, 13.90	5,502
12.	Blue Man	   19-12 11-7	69.00	Carey, 13.69	4,969
13.	kal-65	           19-12 11-7	68.50	Freeman, 15.51	4,406
14.	The Dude	   19-12 10-8	71.73	Weston, 15.82	5,800
15.	FDshoes	           19-12 10-8	69.69	Freeman, 13.81	5,123
16.	KingstonClank12    19-12 10-8	67.85	Freeman, 15.45	4,853
17.	Rhody_JAM	   19-12  9-9	68.54	Weston, 14.56	4,799

18.     cRAM4finals        18-13 11-7   70.18   Freeman, 15.76  5,185
19.	LamonteUlmer15	   18-13 10-8	71.70	Freeman, 15.16	5,050
20.	PeterRamTime	   18-13 10-8	69.69	Freeman, 15.00	5,127
21.	raminwarwick	   18-13 10-8   69.69   Thomas, 14.14	4,967
22.	Dino611	           18-13 10-8	68.43	Freeman, 16.57	5,589
23.	sevegny7	   18-13 10-8	67.57	Weston, 14.50	5,369
24.	Ram96	           18-13 10-8	67.10	Freeman, 14.73	4,537
25.	PeteRI	           18-13 10-8	64.70	Weston, 16.20	6,281
26.	Mongo	           18-13  9-9	70.53	Freeman, 14.76	5,650
27.	RhodyFanNotAlum	   18-13  9-9	70.02	Martin, 12.04	5,353
28.	hrstrat57	   18-13  9-9	68.96	Freeman, 15.90	5,568
29.	URIFIJI	           18-13  9-9	66.69	Freeman, 14.28	4,640

30.	phipsiGD’11	   17-14 10-8	67.40	Weston, 13.42	5,057
31.	STC	           17-14 10-8	64.20	Freeman, 13.20	5,024
32.	79RhodyFan	   17-14  9-9	72.56	Carey, 13.96	5,111
33.	Big Rhody Guy	   17-14  9-9	68.73	Weston, 14.63	4,632
34.	rambone 78	   17-14  9-9	68.45	Freeman, 14.65	5,085
35.	RAM67	           17-14  9-9	68.33	Freeman, 14.15	5,091
36.	LoveThoseRams 	   17-14  9-9	68.21	Freeman, 12.89	4,729
37.     mmp136             17-14  9-9   67.34   Freeman, 14.51  5,128
38.	Jdrums#3	   17-14  9-9	66.32	Freeman, 13.98	5,133
39.	RIFan		   17-14  9-9	66.21	Weston, 13.33	5,001
40.     damram		   17-14  9-9	66.00	Freeman, 16.00	5,375
41.	KingstonLane	   17-14  8-10	66.22	Freeman, 13.75	4,758

42.     Gators1            16-15 10-8   64.58   Martin, 12.45   4,485
43.	bigappleram	   16-15  9-9	69.80	Freeman, 13.80	5,015
44.	RhowdyRam02	   16-15  9-9	68.63	Freeman, 12.73	5,249
45.	RamStock	   16-15  9-9	66.50	Freeman 14.80	4,725
46.     Rhody22	           16-15  9-9	65.69	Freeman, 12.81	4,567
47.	Rhody74	           16-15  8-10	69.82	Freeman, 12.15	4,956
48.	ram1980	           16-15  8-10	68.32	Weston, 13.76	5,063
49.	Rhody15	           16-15  8-10	67.11	Freeman, 13.41	5,364  
50.	section(105)	   16-15  8-10	67.00	Weston, 12.00	4,450
51.	Rhody Sody	   16-15  8-10	66.34	Freeman, 13.51	4,763
52.	RhodyRams12	   16-15  8-10	61.41	Freeman, 13.65	5,017

53.	NHRamFan	   15-16  9-9	67.22	Freeman, 13.07	4,949
54.	Ram1019	           15-16  8-10  68.55	Freeman, 14.40	4,222
55.	reef	           15-16  8-10	68.08	Freeman, 14.84	5,088
56.	wpbrown8267	   15-16  7-11	69.68	Freeman, 14.33	4,782
57.	Jersey77	   15-16  7-11	68.81	Freeman, 12.79	5,126
58.	luke	           15-16  7-11	66.71	Freeman, 13.33	4,820
59.	Shinze88	   15-16  7-11	64.46	Weston, 12.58	4,622
60.	NYGFan_Section108  15-16  6-12	60.00	Carey, 14.70	5,200

61.	ramfan85	   14-17  8-10	69.10	Freeman, 13.15	5,120
62.	rjv	           14-17  8-10	68.52	Weston, 12.75	4,900
63.	Rhody Guy	   14-17  7-11	69.13	Freeman, 13.97	4,628
64.	zporiri	           14-17  7-11	68.88	Leggett, 13.88	4,588
65.	theblueram	   14-17  7-11	67.50	Weston, 13.20	5,100
66.	UCH21377	   14-17  7-11	67.01 	Freeman, 14.38	4,777
67.	R.Kelly150	   14-17  7-11	66.50	Freeman, 13.25	4,559

68.	adam914	           13-18  8-10	69.55	Weston, 13.98	4,724
69.	rhodylocal 	   13-18  7-11	62.85	Carey, 11.89	4,562
70.	SGreenwell	   13-18  7-11	61.60	Freeman, 11.50	4,200
71.	spookydog	   13-18  6-12	65.13	Freeman, 15.57	6,111
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Wow,, Obie, you got that together very quickly. Great job and thanks as always.
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Yes, great job with the summary, Ob. Thank you.
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Gotta love @Ramster enthusiasm!
Here’s hoping he’s holding the prize at contest end!
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Great job OB, love this contest like always
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With the way things are looking at the moment, no one on this board will likely be even close to picking the correct win total. Haha.
They'll get better as the season goes on, but at the current moment it's hard to see where even 5 wins will come from, let alone 13+.
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The Dude wrote: 1 year ago With the way things are looking at the moment, no one on this board will likely be even close to picking the correct win total. Haha.
They'll get better as the season goes on, but at the current moment it's hard to see where even 5 wins will come from, let alone 13+.
I think I'm already eliminated. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Yeah crazy shit wish I was sitting on 12-19 right now !!
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This is my first KB P Contest…..no mulligans? :lol:
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Here is a list of all previous winners of the contest. It's apparent that Rhody fans tend to be on the optimistic side going into each season since most of the eventual winners come from the lower part of the pool.

Two games into season, it sure looks like spookydog at 71 of 71 may be our first consecutive winner!

Prediction Contest Winners

Contest	Season   Participants	 Winner

#1	2008-09	      44	RhodyRams08
#2	2009-10	      50	luke
#3	2010-11	      67	URIGONZO
#4	2011-12	      62	Rhody78PSC
#5	2012-13	      85	CTRamfan    (80 of 85)
#6	2013-14	      78	ramster     (76 of 78)
#7	2014-15	      88	RAM67       (13 of 88)
#8	2015-16	      95	ramfan85    (95 of 95)
#9	2016-17	      71	Shinze88    (70 of 71)  
#10	2017-18	      87	hrstrat57   (9 of 87)
#11	2018-19	      96	Rhody15     (88 of 96)
#12	2019-20	      92	R.Kelly150  (26 of 92)
	2020-21	       No Contest
#13	2021-22	      55	spookydog   (55 of 55)
#14	2022-23	      71          TBD 
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
The Dude wrote: 1 year ago With the way things are looking at the moment, no one on this board will likely be even close to picking the correct win total. Haha.
They'll get better as the season goes on, but at the current moment it's hard to see where even 5 wins will come from, let alone 13+.
I think I'm already eliminated. :lol: :lol: :lol:
78, I thought it was overall record…against the spread. :lol:

Bad reading comprehension on my part.
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From the looks of things, this Ram team is shaping up to be one of the worst in recent years. The question is whether it will be worse than the one in Baron's last season. That was the 7-23 team that lost to both Maine and Brown and started the season 1-11.
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Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago From the looks of things, this Ram team is shaping up to be one of the worst in recent years. The question is whether it will be worse than the one in Baron's last season. That was the 7-23 team that lost to both Maine and Brown and started the season 1-11.
Agreed. This is shaping up to be an historically bad season and a particularly bad era for Rhody basketball. This will be the third consecutive losing season. I have been following the program since the magical 1977-78 season and URI has only once had a longer period of futility back in the early 1980's.

URI 3 or more Consecutive Losing Seasons Eras since 1977-78

1981-82 | 10-17 | English
1982-83 | 9-19 | English
1983-84 | 6-22 | English
1984-85 | 8-20 | Malone
1985-86 | 9-19 | Malone
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1999-00 | 5-25 | DeGregorio
2000-01 | 7-23 | Degregorio
2001-02 | 8-20 | Baron
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2011-12 | 7-24 | Baron
2012-13 | 8-21 | Hurley
2013-14 | 14-18 | Hurley
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2020-21 | 10-15 | Cox
2021-22 |15-16 | Cox
2022-23 |2-7 YTD | Miller


Not surprisingly all of these eras had a coaching change during them, including the present stretch.
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RF1 wrote: 1 year ago
Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago From the looks of things, this Ram team is shaping up to be one of the worst in recent years. The question is whether it will be worse than the one in Baron's last season. That was the 7-23 team that lost to both Maine and Brown and started the season 1-11.
Agreed. This is shaping up to be an historically bad season and a particularly bad era for Rhody basketball. This will be the third consecutive losing season. I have been following the program since the magical 1977-78 season and URI has only once had a longer period of futility back in the early 1980's.

URI 3 or more Consecutive Losing Seasons Eras since 1977-78

1981-82 | 10-17 | English
1982-83 | 9-19 | English
1983-84 | 6-22 | English
1984-85 | 8-20 | Malone
1985-86 | 9-19 | Malone
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1999-00 | 5-25 | DeGregorio
2000-01 | 7-23 | Degregorio
2001-02 | 8-20 | Baron
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2011-12 | 7-24 | Baron
2012-13 | 8-21 | Hurley
2013-14 | 14-18 | Hurley
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2020-21 | 10-15 | Cox
2021-22 |15-16 | Cox
2022-23 |2-7 YTD | Miller


Not surprisingly all of these eras had a coaching change during them, including the present stretch.
Looking at that stretch from '81 to '86 makes it even more incredible at what Penders did in such a short amount of time.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
RF1 wrote: 1 year ago
Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago From the looks of things, this Ram team is shaping up to be one of the worst in recent years. The question is whether it will be worse than the one in Baron's last season. That was the 7-23 team that lost to both Maine and Brown and started the season 1-11.
Agreed. This is shaping up to be an historically bad season and a particularly bad era for Rhody basketball. This will be the third consecutive losing season. I have been following the program since the magical 1977-78 season and URI has only once had a longer period of futility back in the early 1980's.

URI 3 or more Consecutive Losing Seasons Eras since 1977-78

1981-82 | 10-17 | English
1982-83 | 9-19 | English
1983-84 | 6-22 | English
1984-85 | 8-20 | Malone
1985-86 | 9-19 | Malone
===========================
1999-00 | 5-25 | DeGregorio
2000-01 | 7-23 | Degregorio
2001-02 | 8-20 | Baron
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2011-12 | 7-24 | Baron
2012-13 | 8-21 | Hurley
2013-14 | 14-18 | Hurley
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2020-21 | 10-15 | Cox
2021-22 |15-16 | Cox
2022-23 |2-7 YTD | Miller


Not surprisingly all of these eras had a coaching change during them, including the present stretch.
Looking at that stretch from '81 to '86 makes it even more incredible at what Penders did in such a short amount of time.

Brendan Malone was in the process of getting us there. The record may not show it but he was turning things around and had the misfortune of so many close losses in his 2nd season (including 4 OT losses). They likely contributed to him jumping ship. It was Malone that got the recruits that would make the Penders success possible.

I think you also have to give Baron some credit for quickly bringing the program back to respectability after the DeGregorio disaster. Baron had a 20 win season and NIT bid in just his second year in Kingston.
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RF1 wrote: 1 year ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
RF1 wrote: 1 year ago

Agreed. This is shaping up to be an historically bad season and a particularly bad era for Rhody basketball. This will be the third consecutive losing season. I have been following the program since the magical 1977-78 season and URI has only once had a longer period of futility back in the early 1980's.

URI 3 or more Consecutive Losing Seasons Eras since 1977-78

1981-82 | 10-17 | English
1982-83 | 9-19 | English
1983-84 | 6-22 | English
1984-85 | 8-20 | Malone
1985-86 | 9-19 | Malone
===========================
1999-00 | 5-25 | DeGregorio
2000-01 | 7-23 | Degregorio
2001-02 | 8-20 | Baron
===========================
2011-12 | 7-24 | Baron
2012-13 | 8-21 | Hurley
2013-14 | 14-18 | Hurley
===========================
2020-21 | 10-15 | Cox
2021-22 |15-16 | Cox
2022-23 |2-7 YTD | Miller


Not surprisingly all of these eras had a coaching change during them, including the present stretch.
Looking at that stretch from '81 to '86 makes it even more incredible at what Penders did in such a short amount of time.

Brendan Malone was in the process of getting us there. The record may not show it but he was turning things around and had the misfortune of so many close losses in his 2nd season (including 4 OT losses). They likely contributed to him jumping ship. It was Malone that got the recruits that would make the Penders success possible.

I think you also have to give Baron some credit for quickly bringing the program back to respectability after the DeGregorio disaster. Baron had a 20 win season and NIT bid in just his second year in Kingston.
Yes, but it's what Penders did with Malone's players.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
RF1 wrote: 1 year ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago

Looking at that stretch from '81 to '86 makes it even more incredible at what Penders did in such a short amount of time.

Brendan Malone was in the process of getting us there. The record may not show it but he was turning things around and had the misfortune of so many close losses in his 2nd season (including 4 OT losses). They likely contributed to him jumping ship. It was Malone that got the recruits that would make the Penders success possible.

I think you also have to give Baron some credit for quickly bringing the program back to respectability after the DeGregorio disaster. Baron had a 20 win season and NIT bid in just his second year in Kingston.
Yes, but it's what Penders did with Malone's players.
That sure was quite the turnaround from 85-86 to 86-87 which was my freshman year , I still remember going to the Penn St game and we jumped out to like a 22-3 lead just playing great ball , was hard not to fall in love with that team

Just looked it up the game I went to was Dec 4 1986 we beat Penn St 73-65 which was our 3rd game of the season after winning the first 2 on a neutral floor , I wish I could look up the game log to see if I was right on the 22-3 start
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reef wrote: 1 year ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
RF1 wrote: 1 year ago


Brendan Malone was in the process of getting us there. The record may not show it but he was turning things around and had the misfortune of so many close losses in his 2nd season (including 4 OT losses). They likely contributed to him jumping ship. It was Malone that got the recruits that would make the Penders success possible.

I think you also have to give Baron some credit for quickly bringing the program back to respectability after the DeGregorio disaster. Baron had a 20 win season and NIT bid in just his second year in Kingston.
Yes, but it's what Penders did with Malone's players.
That sure was quite the turnaround from 85-86 to 86-87 which was my freshman year , I still remember going to the Penn St game and we jumped out to like a 22-3 lead just playing great ball , was hard not to fall in love with that team

Just looked it up the game I went to was Dec 4 1986 we beat Penn St 73-65 which was our 3rd game of the season after winning the first 2 on a neutral floor , I wish I could look up the game log to see if I was right on the 22-3 start
Reef, here's the record book. It has the results of every game in our history. https://gorhody.com/documents/2022/11/2 ... d_Book.pdf
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The OOC schedule is more than halfway and rather than a nail biter, the Rams poor start plus the optimism of the Keaney Forum has eliminated all but a handful of participants. Here is where it stands as of now. The loss to Brown seals the fact that URI will have a losing OOC record since if they win all the remaining OOC games, a 6-7 record is the result.

@ 16-15 record, Gators1 had an OOC prediction of 6-7
@ 15-16 record, NHRamFan had an OOC prediction of 6-7
@14-17 record, ramfan4 and rjv both had an OOC prediction of 6-7
@13-18 record, adam914 had an OOC prediction of 5-8

With one more OOC loss the Mid-Season prize goes to adam914.

If the Rams win all their remaining OOC contests, four are still viable winners- Gators1, NHRamFan, ramfan4 , and rjv - and the winner will be determined by the one closest on Team Scoring average at the conclusion of OOC play. As example using the Team Scoring average as of Brown game, the winner would be Gators1 with his prediction of 64.58 versus current actual of 63.55.
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So 1 game into conference play and Ramster is eliminated.
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I will forego the practice of announcing those eliminated since it would be such a repetitive futile exercise.

With the URI record at 5-10, we are exactly at the half mark in season. For those in bottom category of W-L records, 13-18, achieving that record means the Rams will have to finish the final 15 games at 8-7. Any record worse than 13-18 only makes certain that the winner will come from that grouping which includes adam914, rhodylocal, SGreenwell, and spookydog..The ultimate winner will come from that group determined by closest prediction to final A-10 record.
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Just to add to the fun with numbers optimistic thoughts...Rhody has to go 10-5 to get to 15-16
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I had us pegged for 17-14. They only need to go 11-4 and I am golden. :lol:
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago I had us pegged for 17-14. They only need to go 11-4 and I am golden. :lol:
Me too....but. but. but, have faith.
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With two-thirds of season gone, interesting to note that Ish is presently the Rams' leading scorer some 2 points ahead of Freeman. Out of 71 bettors zaporiri was the only one to pick Leggett. Even Malik got three picks and Thomas one. I guess Ish's performance last season turned off many.
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Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago With two-thirds of season gone, interesting to note that Ish is presently the Rams' leading scorer some 2 points ahead of Freeman. Out of 71 bettors zaporiri was the only one to pick Leggett. Even Malik got three picks and Thomas one. I guess Ish's performance last season turned off many.
And a lot of people picked Weston.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago With two-thirds of season gone, interesting to note that Ish is presently the Rams' leading scorer some 2 points ahead of Freeman. Out of 71 bettors zaporiri was the only one to pick Leggett. Even Malik got three picks and Thomas one. I guess Ish's performance last season turned off many.
And a lot of people picked Weston.
Admittedly I thought Carey was going to be the biggest beneficiary of the coaching and style change - his injury didn't help. He's definitely improved and I think is a key, but obviously Ish is our leader.

Ish becoming our clear star looking backwards isn't surprising. He's not an elite 3pt shooter - his strength is in the midrange game. The better spacing has allowed him to exploit that 12-15 footer, and his free throw shooting has gone back up.

When you think about his personal situation with his dad's health when it popped up last year - hindsight is 20/20 when it comes to the "why's" but it makes sense.
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What’s the attendance projections looking like ??
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The current average is 5,079 and rambone 78 is closest to that figure now.
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I predicted 5088
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Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago With two-thirds of season gone, interesting to note that Ish is presently the Rams' leading scorer some 2 points ahead of Freeman. Out of 71 bettors zaporiri was the only one to pick Leggett. Even Malik got three picks and Thomas one. I guess Ish's performance last season turned off many.
And a lot of people picked Weston.
Admittedly I thought Carey was going to be the biggest beneficiary of the coaching and style change - his injury didn't help. He's definitely improved and I think is a key, but obviously Ish is our leader.

Ish becoming our clear star looking backwards isn't surprising. He's not an elite 3pt shooter - his strength is in the midrange game. The better spacing has allowed him to exploit that 12-15 footer, and his free throw shooting has gone back up.

When you think about his personal situation with his dad's health when it popped up last year - hindsight is 20/20 when it comes to the "why's" but it makes sense.
To me, it seems like Ish's game has changed because of the way he's getting that 12-15 footer off. Specifically, when he takes it to the basket now and pulls up or makes a move, there's like actual form and structure to the way he shoots it. That might have something to do with the twins no longer clogging the paint+, but last year, it seemed when he worked his way into midrange and closer, and had a shot, he was like...shocked/not really ready to shoot, and you didn't know what you were going to get. Now, seems calmer, much more structured, less frazzled. He had to have been working on that ever since the end of last season. That's my technical basketball explanation for what I see with Ish.
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Good insight, NYG. It’s appreciated as I mostly listen to games.
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago Good insight, NYG. It’s appreciated as I mostly listen to games.
Well, you got YurView today! 8-)
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 year ago
Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago

And a lot of people picked Weston.
Admittedly I thought Carey was going to be the biggest beneficiary of the coaching and style change - his injury didn't help. He's definitely improved and I think is a key, but obviously Ish is our leader.

Ish becoming our clear star looking backwards isn't surprising. He's not an elite 3pt shooter - his strength is in the midrange game. The better spacing has allowed him to exploit that 12-15 footer, and his free throw shooting has gone back up.

When you think about his personal situation with his dad's health when it popped up last year - hindsight is 20/20 when it comes to the "why's" but it makes sense.
To me, it seems like Ish's game has changed because of the way he's getting that 12-15 footer off. Specifically, when he takes it to the basket now and pulls up or makes a move, there's like actual form and structure to the way he shoots it. That might have something to do with the twins no longer clogging the paint+, but last year, it seemed when he worked his way into midrange and closer, and had a shot, he was like...shocked/not really ready to shoot, and you didn't know what you were going to get. Now, seems calmer, much more structured, less frazzled. He had to have been working on that ever since the end of last season. That's my technical basketball explanation for what I see with Ish.
His pull up jumper in the lane is beautiful. But I don't think he's been working on it since the end of last season. I think he's been working on it since Archie started coaching him. Carey is doing a lot more of it too.
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Carey had 18 today on 7-17 floor

He really is fun to watch get to his spots and get his jumper off so darn athletic
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I like the way we've been running our offense; getting Carey, Ish, And Freeman into positions where they can play to their strengths, which is driving/midrange game. If only we had a couple spot-up 3 point shooters...
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An update after 21 games:

Overall record: 8-13: 40 posters still eligible.
Team Scoring: 67.57; sevegny7 predicted 67.57
Top Scorer: Leggett - 16.43; zporiri predicted Leggett -13.88
Attendance: 5,200; NYGFan_Section108 predicted 5,200
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Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago From the looks of things, this Ram team is shaping up to be one of the worst in recent years. The question is whether it will be worse than the one in Baron's last season. That was the 7-23 team that lost to both Maine and Brown and started the season 1-11.
Happy to say OB - this prediction did not come to fruition!

We are currently tied at 8 wins with Hurley's 2012 rebuild. One win away from being the best coaching change turnaround in the past 2 decades!
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Blue Man wrote: 1 year ago
Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago From the looks of things, this Ram team is shaping up to be one of the worst in recent years. The question is whether it will be worse than the one in Baron's last season. That was the 7-23 team that lost to both Maine and Brown and started the season 1-11.
Happy to say OB - this prediction did not come to fruition!

We are currently tied at 8 wins with Hurley's 2012 rebuild. One win away from being the best coaching change turnaround in the past 2 decades!
Totally agree with that belief.
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Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago An update after 21 games:

Overall record: 8-13: 40 posters still eligible.
Team Scoring: 67.57; sevegny7 predicted 67.57
Top Scorer: Leggett - 16.43; zporiri predicted Leggett -13.88
Attendance: 5,200; NYGFan_Section108 predicted 5,200
If the new plan falls into place..5,200 will be blown away.... I hope that's the case
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4-5 rest of way makes us 12-18 8-10 makes Adam the winner ??
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If that happens, you are right adam914 is the winner.
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Kinda looking like maybe nobody is gonna win?
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For those wondering about the departure of Freeman from the team and the impact it has on his position in the Top Scorer contest, Freeman is still eligible since he has met the minimum requirement of playing in 2/3 of the games. Right now, Ish is in the lead with an average of 15.88 and Freeman is second at 14.30. The only way Freeman can win Top Scorer honors is if Leggett has bad scoring in the season's last six games and his average falls below Freeman's 14.30 which, of course, can no longer change.
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Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago For those wondering about the departure of Freeman from the team and the impact it has on his position in the Top Scorer contest, Freeman is still eligible since he has met the minimum requirement of playing in 2/3 of the games. Right now, Ish is in the lead with an average of 15.88 and Freeman is second at 14.30. The only way Freeman can win Top Scorer honors is if Leggett has bad scoring in the season's last six games and his average falls below Freeman's 14.30 which, of course, can no longer change.
And one would expect with Bray no longer here thst ISh should improve on his 15.88 not go down
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reef wrote: 1 year ago
Obadiah wrote: 1 year ago For those wondering about the departure of Freeman from the team and the impact it has on his position in the Top Scorer contest, Freeman is still eligible since he has met the minimum requirement of playing in 2/3 of the games. Right now, Ish is in the lead with an average of 15.88 and Freeman is second at 14.30. The only way Freeman can win Top Scorer honors is if Leggett has bad scoring in the season's last six games and his average falls below Freeman's 14.30 which, of course, can no longer change.
And one would expect with Bray no longer here thst ISh should improve on his 15.88 not go down
Good point Reef
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Assuming that nobody else has a weird scoring outburst, and that URI has seven games left (six regular season plus one tournament game), Ish needs to average about 8.9 PPG in the remaining ones to "clinch" the top scorer mark. Seems pretty likely.
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Last 3 games, all losses, Freeman went 14-41 FGs for only 34%. The 41 attempts were the most on the team.
Those 41 FG attempts will now distribute to others of which Leggett will be a benefactor.
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It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. Defenses will really be able to focus on Ish now as our only real scoring threat.
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