Yeah Carey still turned it over last year, but I think he was our most consistent guard on the team. I mean he went from hopeless to solid in a year. He'll do well next year.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Carey’s Turnovers per 40 minutes
Last season Carey was 2nd on the team with 3.4 TOs per 40 minutes Makhi was 1st, Makhel 3rd
Previous season Carey was 1st on the team with 4.7 TOs per 40 minutes. Makhel was 2nd, Makhi 3rd.
While Carey improved he was still the worst of all guards both years and in horrendous TO company with Makhi and Makhel.
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St Joseph's picked up Shawn Simmons Class of 2023
Simmons grew up 5 minutes from St Joseph's. Billy Lange and staff have been recruiting him since he arrived at St Joseph's
Class of 2023 four-star Shawn Simmons has committed to Saint Joseph’s, becoming the program’s highest-ranked recruit in the modern recruiting era.
Simmons is the No. 119 overall prospect in the 2023 class, according to the On3 Consensus, the average ranking from all four major recruiting media companies. On3’s evaluators are slightly higher on him, ranking him as the No. 105 prospect in the country.
The 6-foot-7, 200-pound small forward originally from Philadelphia, Pa. chose the Hawks over offers from Seton Hall, Xavier, Maryland, Georgia, Pittsburgh, Butler, Arizona State, UNLV, and others. Simmons previously attended Hillcrest Prep in Phoenix, Ariz., but plans to attend The Shipley School located right outside Philadelphia for his senior year.
https://www.on3.com/news/four-star-shaw ... t-josephs/
Simmons grew up 5 minutes from St Joseph's. Billy Lange and staff have been recruiting him since he arrived at St Joseph's
Class of 2023 four-star Shawn Simmons has committed to Saint Joseph’s, becoming the program’s highest-ranked recruit in the modern recruiting era.
Simmons is the No. 119 overall prospect in the 2023 class, according to the On3 Consensus, the average ranking from all four major recruiting media companies. On3’s evaluators are slightly higher on him, ranking him as the No. 105 prospect in the country.
The 6-foot-7, 200-pound small forward originally from Philadelphia, Pa. chose the Hawks over offers from Seton Hall, Xavier, Maryland, Georgia, Pittsburgh, Butler, Arizona State, UNLV, and others. Simmons previously attended Hillcrest Prep in Phoenix, Ariz., but plans to attend The Shipley School located right outside Philadelphia for his senior year.
https://www.on3.com/news/four-star-shaw ... t-josephs/
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Billy Lange now has 3 Recruits for Class of 2023.
St Joseph's is ranked #10 Nationally for Class of 2023 at this time
#122 Shawn Simmons
#161 Xzayvier Brown
#209 Anthony Finkley
https://247sports.com/college/saint-jos ... l/Commits/
St Joseph's is ranked #10 Nationally for Class of 2023 at this time
#122 Shawn Simmons
#161 Xzayvier Brown
#209 Anthony Finkley
https://247sports.com/college/saint-jos ... l/Commits/
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Good PR for the Joe’s and the conference.
I am curious about what the results will be on the court. I look forward to watching.
I am curious about what the results will be on the court. I look forward to watching.
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Here is the story in todays Sunday Philadelphia Inquirer.
https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports ... 20820.html
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Ramster, like I said earlier a good effort by Lange to save his job.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Billy Lange now has 3 Recruits for Class of 2023.
St Joseph's is ranked #10 Nationally for Class of 2023 at this time
#122 Shawn Simmons
#161 Xzayvier Brown
#209 Anthony Finkley
https://247sports.com/college/saint-jos ... l/Commits/
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Lange has been recruiting Simmons since he was a Freshman. Simmons going to Arizona to play, then being impacted by Covid and the restrictions that go with it had some impact on his decision to stay home and be near family. He likes that his family and friends can see him play and they couldn’t last year when he played in Arizona.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoRamster, like I said earlier a good effort by Lange to save his job.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Billy Lange now has 3 Recruits for Class of 2023.
St Joseph's is ranked #10 Nationally for Class of 2023 at this time
#122 Shawn Simmons
#161 Xzayvier Brown
#209 Anthony Finkley
https://247sports.com/college/saint-jos ... l/Commits/
Lange landed Simmons through a long, multi-year courtship.
I’m addition, the two other Class of 2023 commitments are also from Philly, go to same HS. Simmons knows them from playing for Team Durant AAU. All 3 excited about playing together.
Also could result in all 3 staying together longer term in Philly - not the norm anymore in college basketball. Maybe they get more Philly HS players to join them.
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Exactly.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑1 year agoYeah Carey still turned it over last year, but I think he was our most consistent guard on the team. I mean he went from hopeless to solid in a year. He'll do well next year.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Carey’s Turnovers per 40 minutes
Last season Carey was 2nd on the team with 3.4 TOs per 40 minutes Makhi was 1st, Makhel 3rd
Previous season Carey was 1st on the team with 4.7 TOs per 40 minutes. Makhel was 2nd, Makhi 3rd.
While Carey improved he was still the worst of all guards both years and in horrendous TO company with Makhi and Makhel.
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Archie saying, "he improved more in 6 months shooting the ball than any player I've ever been around" gets me very excited considering he shot the ball well last season.
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Great get on paper, but I don't think he's a good coach. Maybe he'll win on talent alone. We'll see.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoRamster, like I said earlier a good effort by Lange to save his job.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Billy Lange now has 3 Recruits for Class of 2023.
St Joseph's is ranked #10 Nationally for Class of 2023 at this time
#122 Shawn Simmons
#161 Xzayvier Brown
#209 Anthony Finkley
https://247sports.com/college/saint-jos ... l/Commits/
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4* gets publicity. Doesn't even matter if the guy flames out. URI needs to be in the National Media to be relevant. This is why I talk about star rankings.
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I agree it helps to recruit if we are known as a program that lands top talent. It’s a lot of fun when we land the top 100 players, and it was exciting when Rothstein tweeted about Archie landing Tchikou, Ant Harris, and Weston, but if you want to continue to land talent, you need to win. Winning conference championships and hearing your name in March is priority number 1 if you want to be respected and relevant around the country.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago 4* gets publicity. It doesn't even matter if the guy flames out. URI needs to be in the National Media to be relevant. This is why I talk about star rankings.
Imagine if Archie felt this way? Hey Kj and Duane. The only thing that matters is if they have 4 stars. Who cares if this recruit makes an impact? I want to make sure 247 sports writes an article in the off-season and Rothstein tweets about it. That’s what matters.
St Peters was full of 0-2 star players. They became one of the most popular teams in the country last year.
Win, and the rest will follow.
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Of course winning leads to great things. And I would rather have publicity for winning than getting top recruits. But I do the love the splash of landing a top recruit!!!steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year agoI agree it helps to recruit if we are known as a program that lands top talent. It’s a lot of fun when we land the top 100 players, and it was exciting when Rothstein tweeted about Archie landing Tchikou, Ant Harris, and Weston, but if you want to continue to land talent, you need to win. Winning conference championships and hearing your name in March is priority number 1 if you want to be respected and relevant around the country.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago 4* gets publicity. It doesn't even matter if the guy flames out. URI needs to be in the National Media to be relevant. This is why I talk about star rankings.
Imagine if Archie felt this way? Hey Kj and Duane. The only thing that matters is if they have 4 stars. Who cares if this recruit makes an impact? I want to make sure 247 sports writes an article in the off-season and Rothstein tweets about it. That’s what matters.
St Peters was full of 0-2 star players. They became one of the most popular teams in the country last year.
Win, and the rest will follow.
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Definitely. I love coming on here after we land a top recruit. It was also a lot of fun to send all our new recruits to DC Rams after he said “our program is finished” and told our players to transfer.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year agoOf course winning leads to great things. And I would rather have publicity for winning than getting top recruits. But I do the love the splash of landing a top recruit!!!steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year agoI agree it helps to recruit if we are known as a program that lands top talent. It’s a lot of fun when we land the top 100 players, and it was exciting when Rothstein tweeted about Archie landing Tchikou, Ant Harris, and Weston, but if you want to continue to land talent, you need to win. Winning conference championships and hearing your name in March is priority number 1 if you want to be respected and relevant around the country.theblueram wrote: ↑1 year ago 4* gets publicity. It doesn't even matter if the guy flames out. URI needs to be in the National Media to be relevant. This is why I talk about star rankings.
Imagine if Archie felt this way? Hey Kj and Duane. The only thing that matters is if they have 4 stars. Who cares if this recruit makes an impact? I want to make sure 247 sports writes an article in the off-season and Rothstein tweets about it. That’s what matters.
St Peters was full of 0-2 star players. They became one of the most popular teams in the country last year.
Win, and the rest will follow.
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Maybe by January or so I will finally not be surprised when I am reminded that Loyola is in the A10.
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Someone posted a picture of the twins on twitter, and he responded by saying this.
"Lmao those dudes suck. Good luck; they will hurt your team more offensively than help. Worst free throw shooters ever"
Grown-ass man talking shit about kids and telling our players to transfer. I'm happy he's gone.
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I'm not convinced DC Rams is a grown ass man, I always found his cover story suspicious
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Maybe he’s a distant friend of the Cox family so he’s probably a diehard Maryland fan now good riddance !!RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago I'm not convinced DC Rams is a grown ass man, I always found his cover story suspicious
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My pet theory was that it was Cox' son. Nothing to back it up but the completely blind loyalty to only one person, even over the program itself, made me think that
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Maybe you are correct, RR. If so, the reactionary behavior would be more understandable to me and admirable to fervently defend his dad and his dad’s aspirations. Also, unfortunate because it’s only sports but things can get emotional nonetheless.
We all get emotional over Rhody basketball. If it is DC’s son, I hope the young man comes to understand it’s not personal. We all hoped his dad succeeded but for multiple reasons things here didn’t work out as we all wanted.
We all get emotional over Rhody basketball. If it is DC’s son, I hope the young man comes to understand it’s not personal. We all hoped his dad succeeded but for multiple reasons things here didn’t work out as we all wanted.
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Didn't he claim to have a PhD or something from URI? Thought that was suspicious as well.
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IIRC, it was a grad degree. Not sure if it was a Ph. D or Masters.
I was lurking at the time (I lurked here for so long my memory fades as to when I started).
I was lurking at the time (I lurked here for so long my memory fades as to when I started).
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Correct, the story was a grad degree
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UPDATED - College Sports Madness has listed another A-10 team in its annual Top 144 countdown.
Massachusetts Minutemen
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #137
Conference Rank: #9 A-10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20718
Rhode Island Rams
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #133
Conference Rank: #8 A-10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20723
George Mason Patriots
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #115
Conference Rank: #7 Atlantic 10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20752
Davidson Wildcats
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #91
Conference Rank: #6 Atlantic 10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20838
Richmond Spiders
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #79
Conference Rank: #5 Atlantic 10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20880
Massachusetts Minutemen
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #137
Conference Rank: #9 A-10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20718
Rhode Island Rams
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #133
Conference Rank: #8 A-10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20723
George Mason Patriots
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #115
Conference Rank: #7 Atlantic 10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20752
Davidson Wildcats
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #91
Conference Rank: #6 Atlantic 10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20838
Richmond Spiders
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #79
Conference Rank: #5 Atlantic 10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20880
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One thing is for sure, they were definitely heavily connected to Cox and almost certainly a family member. I always assumed it was his wifeRhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago My pet theory was that it was Cox' son. Nothing to back it up but the completely blind loyalty to only one person, even over the program itself, made me think that
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Frank Martin article - New Hampshire Gazette
https://www.gazettenet.com/UMass-basket ... nk-Martin-
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UMASS adds another for this season. Davis was a teammate of Gapare.
@ Adam Finkelstein
.@TeamMe7oEYBL & @SocalAcad wing Robert Davis Jr. announced his commitment to UMass.
Thought he was under-recruited this summer. Positional size, virtually pure release from 3, & high-energy wing.
Should be a good piece in A10.
@ Adam Finkelstein
.@TeamMe7oEYBL & @SocalAcad wing Robert Davis Jr. announced his commitment to UMass.
Thought he was under-recruited this summer. Positional size, virtually pure release from 3, & high-energy wing.
Should be a good piece in A10.
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Ramster, I think Davis is a '23 recruit, next season.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago UMASS adds another for this season. Davis was a teammate of Gapare.
@ Adam Finkelstein
.@TeamMe7oEYBL & @SocalAcad wing Robert Davis Jr. announced his commitment to UMass.
Thought he was under-recruited this summer. Positional size, virtually pure release from 3, & high-energy wing.
Should be a good piece in A10.
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Correct 77. ThanksJersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoRamster, I think Davis is a '23 recruit, next season.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago UMASS adds another for this season. Davis was a teammate of Gapare.
@ Adam Finkelstein
.@TeamMe7oEYBL & @SocalAcad wing Robert Davis Jr. announced his commitment to UMass.
Thought he was under-recruited this summer. Positional size, virtually pure release from 3, & high-energy wing.
Should be a good piece in A10.
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Thankfully URI did not make this list. A-10 members UMass, GMU, and SLU bested their states with PC first in RI.
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How does this relate to “A10 2022-2023 Outlook?”
Should be in “Down the Line”. Nothing to do with Basketball, unless Maybe Joe can cancel the child support and the money go towards NIL?
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If that's the case we should be dialing up the rivalry. It will be good for URI, the A-10, and we can get upgrade our schedule with other schools!!!!.McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago. Martin will clearly be completion for Archie in the New England area. All I’ve ever heard about him is that he is a “ruthless” recruiter and does not lose many. Eg. Silvaramster wrote: ↑2 years ago Frank Martin and UMASS offer #8 ESPN Ranked 6'9" 210 lb G.G. Jackson from Columbia South Carolina Class of 2023
On Saturday afternoon, Jackson posted on Twitter that he received an offer from the University of Massachusetts. Of course, you may be saying to yourself, “why would such a high-profile prospect even consider a program like UMass?”
It’s simple: Frank Martin.
We know how heavily Martin recruited Jackson while he was at the helm at South Carolina. In fact, all signs were leaning towards the Columbia, South Carolina native committing to the Gamecocks.
This is not great news for Hubert Davis and the Tar Heels, as it looked like Martin’s presence wasn’t something they had to worry about anymore in this recruiting race. Now with his new program back in the mix, it’s very possible that Jackson will take some extra time to evaluate all of his potential options.
If you need any indication as to how Jackson is feeling about the offer, his Twitter feed has multiple tweets that reference the UMass offer.
https://keepingitheel.com/2022/04/02/un ... eepstakes/
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Frank Martin is officially weird on Twitter.
I fully admit that he is a person who already annoyed me before I knew about his Twitter game, but he’s a lot.
I fully admit that he is a person who already annoyed me before I knew about his Twitter game, but he’s a lot.
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FM must be dreaming about his interactions with ref’s during games.
Take that you striped infidels!
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Dayton vs SLU, who is better?
I know most insiders pick Dayton, but I am having a difficult time deciding.
They both have a very strong core of returning players.
SLU's guard/wing line-up is considered one of the best in the nation.
Yuri - Led the nation in total and per game assists (7.9). Also averaged 11 pts (45% FG).
Jimerson- Led the team in scoring (16.3 pts and 42% from 3 pt).
Perkins - Returning from ACL injury and was an A-10 POY candidate. In 20-21 averaged 17 pts.
Thatch - Averaged 11.5 pts and 6 rebs in A-10 conference play.
Pickett - Some consider him the top transfer to the A-10. Averaged 11 pts last season at Mizzou and led them in minutes.
SLU also has a solid center in Okoro, who averaged 12 pts and 8 rebs in conference play.
Jake Forrester is also a nice big pick-up from Temple.
Dayton should have the strongest frontcourt in the A-10 anchored by Holmes and Camara.
Holmes- Scoring leader at 12.8 pts and 6 rebs.
Camara - Averaged about 11 pts and 7 rebs.
Also have the athletic Amzil coming off the bench.
Their backcourt and wings are also good:
Smith - Averaged 9.3 pts and over 5 assists in his freshman year.
Elvis- Solid guard averaged about 9 pts.
Brea - Good outside threat, averaged 8 pts and 42% from 3.
Blakney - Started every game 21-22 and averaged 6.5 pts (45% FG).
For me it is probably a toss-up between these 2 teams, both are loaded.
I know most insiders pick Dayton, but I am having a difficult time deciding.
They both have a very strong core of returning players.
SLU's guard/wing line-up is considered one of the best in the nation.
Yuri - Led the nation in total and per game assists (7.9). Also averaged 11 pts (45% FG).
Jimerson- Led the team in scoring (16.3 pts and 42% from 3 pt).
Perkins - Returning from ACL injury and was an A-10 POY candidate. In 20-21 averaged 17 pts.
Thatch - Averaged 11.5 pts and 6 rebs in A-10 conference play.
Pickett - Some consider him the top transfer to the A-10. Averaged 11 pts last season at Mizzou and led them in minutes.
SLU also has a solid center in Okoro, who averaged 12 pts and 8 rebs in conference play.
Jake Forrester is also a nice big pick-up from Temple.
Dayton should have the strongest frontcourt in the A-10 anchored by Holmes and Camara.
Holmes- Scoring leader at 12.8 pts and 6 rebs.
Camara - Averaged about 11 pts and 7 rebs.
Also have the athletic Amzil coming off the bench.
Their backcourt and wings are also good:
Smith - Averaged 9.3 pts and over 5 assists in his freshman year.
Elvis- Solid guard averaged about 9 pts.
Brea - Good outside threat, averaged 8 pts and 42% from 3.
Blakney - Started every game 21-22 and averaged 6.5 pts (45% FG).
For me it is probably a toss-up between these 2 teams, both are loaded.
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Good info, Jersey. Two real good A10 teams. I hope both teams crush it out of conference and then, Rhody tests them hard when they play them.
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Rothstein has it St Louis #32 and Dayton #33
Lunardi has Dayton a 5-seed AQ and SLU a 7-seed
I like Dayton over SLU as College Basketball revolves around star power. Dayton is young and talented.
32. Saint Louis
Projected Starting 5:
G Yuri Collins
G Javon Pickett
G Gibson Jimerson
G Javonte Perkins
C Francis Okoro
Projected Bench: Terrance Hargrove, Nick Kramer, Kellan Thames, Sincere Parker, Fred Thatch, Jake Forrester, Mouhamadou Cisse
Key Losses: Deandre Jones, Martin Linssen
Key Newcomers: Sincere Parker, Nick Kramer, Kellan Thames, Javon Pickett (Missouri), Jake Forrester (Temple), Mouhamadou Cisse
33. Dayton
Projected Starting 5:
G Malachi Smith
G Kobe Elvis
G R.J. Blakney
F Toumani Camara
C Daron Holmes
Projected Bench: Mustapha Amzil, Koby Brea, Zimi Nwokeji, Kaleb Washington, Mike Sharavjamts
Key Losses: Moulaye Sissoko, Elijah Weaver
Key Newcomers: Mike Sharavjamts
Lunardi has Dayton a 5-seed AQ and SLU a 7-seed
I like Dayton over SLU as College Basketball revolves around star power. Dayton is young and talented.
32. Saint Louis
Projected Starting 5:
G Yuri Collins
G Javon Pickett
G Gibson Jimerson
G Javonte Perkins
C Francis Okoro
Projected Bench: Terrance Hargrove, Nick Kramer, Kellan Thames, Sincere Parker, Fred Thatch, Jake Forrester, Mouhamadou Cisse
Key Losses: Deandre Jones, Martin Linssen
Key Newcomers: Sincere Parker, Nick Kramer, Kellan Thames, Javon Pickett (Missouri), Jake Forrester (Temple), Mouhamadou Cisse
33. Dayton
Projected Starting 5:
G Malachi Smith
G Kobe Elvis
G R.J. Blakney
F Toumani Camara
C Daron Holmes
Projected Bench: Mustapha Amzil, Koby Brea, Zimi Nwokeji, Kaleb Washington, Mike Sharavjamts
Key Losses: Moulaye Sissoko, Elijah Weaver
Key Newcomers: Mike Sharavjamts
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Yeah, tough to decide.
Some feel that Yuri may be the best pure PG in the nation.
Much depends on how Perkins comes back from his ACL injury.
If he performs like in 20-21, then watch out.
Jimmerson might be the best sniper in the A10 and Okoro can hold his own against most bigs in the conference.
Though they don't have the depth upfront that Dayton has.
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I’m more in the camp of Lunardi, Dayton a 5-seed.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoYeah, tough to decide.
Some feel that Yuri may be the best pure PG in the nation.
Much depends on how Perkins comes back from his ACL injury.
If he performs like in 20-21, then watch out.
Jimmerson might be the best sniper in the A10 and Okoro can hold his own against most bigs in the conference.
Though they don't have the depth upfront that Dayton has.
In fact Dayton could even do better than a 5-seed
DaRon Holmes at 6’10” is targeted to go #24 in the 1st round of the 2024 Draft. Holmes is the only A10 Player to go in the 2023 or 2024 Draft per NBADraft.net.
Holmes has star quality and will only be a Soph, as will Malachi Smith. Star quality at Dayton.
Dayton will dominate the A10, solid coaching too.
St Louis often finds a way to underachieve. Sometimes it’s due to injuries but seems like it’s always something
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Holmes is a stud, but not ready to buy into all the draft hype just yet.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoI’m more in the camp of Lunardi, Dayton a 5-seed.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoYeah, tough to decide.
Some feel that Yuri may be the best pure PG in the nation.
Much depends on how Perkins comes back from his ACL injury.
If he performs like in 20-21, then watch out.
Jimmerson might be the best sniper in the A10 and Okoro can hold his own against most bigs in the conference.
Though they don't have the depth upfront that Dayton has.
In fact Dayton could even do better than a 5-seed
DaRon Holmes at 6’10” is targeted to go #24 in the 1st round of the 2024 Draft. Holmes is the only A10 Player to go in the 2023 or 2024 Draft per NBADraft.net.
Holmes has star quality and will only be a Soph, as will Malachi Smith. Star quality at Dayton.
Dayton will dominate the A10, solid coaching too.
St Louis often finds a way to underachieve. Sometimes it’s due to injuries but seems like it’s always something
I agree with you that Dayton can dominate in the conference, but it won't be that easy.
SLU has underachieved and I am not quite totally sold on Travis Ford.
This is one of his best rosters, so they better perform.
I know their fan base has high expectations for 22-23.
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77,Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoHolmes is a stud, but not ready to buy into all the draft hype just yet.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoI’m more in the camp of Lunardi, Dayton a 5-seed.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Yeah, tough to decide.
Some feel that Yuri may be the best pure PG in the nation.
Much depends on how Perkins comes back from his ACL injury.
If he performs like in 20-21, then watch out.
Jimmerson might be the best sniper in the A10 and Okoro can hold his own against most bigs in the conference.
Though they don't have the depth upfront that Dayton has.
In fact Dayton could even do better than a 5-seed
DaRon Holmes at 6’10” is targeted to go #24 in the 1st round of the 2024 Draft. Holmes is the only A10 Player to go in the 2023 or 2024 Draft per NBADraft.net.
Holmes has star quality and will only be a Soph, as will Malachi Smith. Star quality at Dayton.
Dayton will dominate the A10, solid coaching too.
St Louis often finds a way to underachieve. Sometimes it’s due to injuries but seems like it’s always something
I agree with you that Dayton can dominate in the conference, but it won't be that easy.
SLU has underachieved and I am not quite totally sold on Travis Ford.
This is one of his best rosters, so they better perform.
I know their fan base has high expectations for 22-23.
It certainly wasn’t meant to be draft hype, nor did I have any expectation that you should buy into it. It’s just info, that’s all. In fact, look at the mock drafts for 2023, 2024. Players from Overtime Elite, G-League, Foreign Countries make up many picks. Not like it used to be. Glad the A10 has 1 player listed. Holmes May go after this season and not wait til 2024.
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Dayton is so deep...Hard to bet against a team that returns their entire rotation. I like their guard play a lot; obviously, Holmes is a stud. Their glue guys like Blakney and Amzil are perfect fits. My worry with Dayton is we have seen so many fantastic freshmen have that sophomore slump. I wasn't very impressed with them when they played us, but obviously, they are loaded with upside. I could see them underachieved or become a top-10 team. They are one of the deepest teams in the country.
St. Louis will be one of the best rebounding teams in the country. The main question for them is if they can defend. Suppose everyone is healthy and playing their best basketball. I don't see a better starting lineup than this.
Yuri Collins
Javonte Perkins
Gibson Jimerson
Jordan Nesbitt
Francis Okoro
I think Dayton and St. Louis are a complete toss-up. The x factor is Perkins. If he can be the player he was before, then I think they are the best team in the A10.
Give me the veteran team over the young guns. I'll pick St. Louis. It'll be awesome to see both of them in the Sweet 16.
St. Louis will be one of the best rebounding teams in the country. The main question for them is if they can defend. Suppose everyone is healthy and playing their best basketball. I don't see a better starting lineup than this.
Yuri Collins
Javonte Perkins
Gibson Jimerson
Jordan Nesbitt
Francis Okoro
I think Dayton and St. Louis are a complete toss-up. The x factor is Perkins. If he can be the player he was before, then I think they are the best team in the A10.
Give me the veteran team over the young guns. I'll pick St. Louis. It'll be awesome to see both of them in the Sweet 16.
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Stevey, Nesbitt transferred to Hampton.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year ago Dayton is so deep...Hard to bet against a team that returns their entire rotation. I like their guard play a lot; obviously, Holmes is a stud. Their glue guys like Blakney and Amzil are perfect fits. My worry with Dayton is we have seen so many fantastic freshmen have that sophomore slump. I wasn't very impressed with them when they played us, but obviously, they are loaded with upside. I could see them underachieved or become a top-10 team. They are one of the deepest teams in the country.
St. Louis will be one of the best rebounding teams in the country. The main question for them is if they can defend. Suppose everyone is healthy and playing their best basketball. I don't see a better starting lineup than this.
Yuri Collins
Javonte Perkins
Gibson Jimerson
Jordan Nesbitt
Francis Okoro
I think Dayton and St. Louis are a complete toss-up. The x factor is Perkins. If he can be the player he was before, then I think they are the best team in the A10.
Give me the veteran team over the young guns. I'll pick St. Louis. It'll be awesome to see both of them in the Sweet 16.
They probably improved with Pickett who was a solid P5 starter (Mizzou) averaged 11 pts.
Thatch can also play starter minutes, last season averaged 11.5 pts and 6 rebs in A10 play.
You are right though, a toss-up.
SLU may have a little more firepower.
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My bad! I mixed him and Nesbitt up! I thought Nesbitt was the transfer from Missouri. Anyways, I only watched Missou a few times last season but I remember being very impressed when Pickett played Kansas. I think he dropped 20 that game.Jersey77 wrote: ↑1 year agoStevey, Nesbitt transferred to Hampton.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 year ago Dayton is so deep...Hard to bet against a team that returns their entire rotation. I like their guard play a lot; obviously, Holmes is a stud. Their glue guys like Blakney and Amzil are perfect fits. My worry with Dayton is we have seen so many fantastic freshmen have that sophomore slump. I wasn't very impressed with them when they played us, but obviously, they are loaded with upside. I could see them underachieved or become a top-10 team. They are one of the deepest teams in the country.
St. Louis will be one of the best rebounding teams in the country. The main question for them is if they can defend. Suppose everyone is healthy and playing their best basketball. I don't see a better starting lineup than this.
Yuri Collins
Javonte Perkins
Gibson Jimerson
Jordan Nesbitt
Francis Okoro
I think Dayton and St. Louis are a complete toss-up. The x factor is Perkins. If he can be the player he was before, then I think they are the best team in the A10.
Give me the veteran team over the young guns. I'll pick St. Louis. It'll be awesome to see both of them in the Sweet 16.
They probably improved with Pickett who was a solid P5 starter (Mizzou) averaged 11 pts.
Thatch can also play starter minutes, last season averaged 11.5 pts and 6 rebs in A10 play.
You are right though, a toss-up.
SLU may have a little more firepower.
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