I admit being in the “give Cox another season” camp last fall, but I was proven wrong. The hiring of a coach of Archie’s caliber was beyond my dreams.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agoIt’d be pretty tough for even the biggest trolls here to question firing David Cox and hiring Archie Miller.steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years ago I love it that there isn't one person that is questioning the coaching change even though only 2/3rds of the roster is in the portal.
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except Mitchell x3 can't carry the Ball's gym bag,PCFriars wrote: ↑2 years agoShe's literally Lavar Ball.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago So, Mama Mitchell must be at home right now trying to figure out how to have the twins end up on the same NBA team. LMAO!
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A winning attitude and the Mitchells are mutually exclusive terms.
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I turned to my wife during the AIC game and said, “there isn’t a single player on either team here that will ever sniff the NBA.”
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If the team was good last year and was filled with players who we loved and who knew how to win, and the coach we replaced had left on his own volition to pursue another job, then yeah people would be melting down. But this situation is the polar opposite of that so people are riding.steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years ago I love it that there isn't one person that is questioning the coaching change even though only 2/3rds of the roster is in the portal.
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You weren't alone.Rhody74 wrote: ↑2 years agoI admit being in the “give Cox another season” camp last fall, but I was proven wrong. The hiring of a coach of Archie’s caliber was beyond my dreams.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agoIt’d be pretty tough for even the biggest trolls here to question firing David Cox and hiring Archie Miller.steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years ago I love it that there isn't one person that is questioning the coaching change even though only 2/3rds of the roster is in the portal.
I agreed with Thorr in giving Cox last season, because of the prior Covid situation, injury issues, and mixing in the new transfers that may have led to our record in 20-21.
But he didn't deserve a pass this season and in the long run, things worked out for the best with having Archie as our HC going forward.
To Thorr's credit the timing was right and he seized the moment.
Not sure that would have been the case a year ago.
Even Archie admitted he needed this past season for family time and to reflect.
He said as a result he grew as a coach and a person.
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He deserved another year.Rhody74 wrote: ↑2 years agoI admit being in the “give Cox another season” camp last fall, but I was proven wrong. The hiring of a coach of Archie’s caliber was beyond my dreams.Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years agoIt’d be pretty tough for even the biggest trolls here to question firing David Cox and hiring Archie Miller.steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years ago I love it that there isn't one person that is questioning the coaching change even though only 2/3rds of the roster is in the portal.
Because covid, transfers and his first two years were so much better.
We were one or two wins from being an at-large team in 2020.
I dont think after seeing that team play well for most of the year that we'd fall off so drastically.
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I wanted him gone after last year. We were the least affected team by Covid, so we should have been getting better as the year went on, instead we were getting worse, Cox was showing no growth as the head coach from his first games, and then he didn't know Tre Mitchell was going to miss a game and admitted it to the press. It was obvious that he was way over his skis.
That said, if I had known all along that we'd end up with Archie I would have been happier than a pig in shit to suffer what we did this season. This truly was the equivalent of a team tanking and getting the first overall draft pick, we just got a coach instead of a quarterback
That said, if I had known all along that we'd end up with Archie I would have been happier than a pig in shit to suffer what we did this season. This truly was the equivalent of a team tanking and getting the first overall draft pick, we just got a coach instead of a quarterback
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If you are betting, the odds of URI being any good next year are pretty low. But, it's a crazy world out there that I don't think people have rewired their brains fully to. It's just hard when you have been a fan of the sport for 5 or 50 years to consider how it is different. TJ Otzelberger went from winning a lot of games at a school that is probably the best positioned in their conference to win to sort of flaming out at a school with a pretty good pedigree. Sounds sort of familiar. The next year he took over a school that was literally winless in conference. His first year there they went to the sweet 16. One single guy who was in the top 7 in minutes played was on the Iowa State campus 12 months ago. Is that an outlier? Of course. I just don't think you can take anything off the table nowadays. Maybe Archie wants five 2022s and six 2023s and build from the bottom up. Who knows? Not impossible to be a decent team next year. Otzelberger has been recruiting midwest kids for a long time so it's probably plan B for URI. Not sure how many kids Archie recruited want the A10 and I sort of prefer finding kids and watching them grow.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoBy stink. I mean a losing record in the A10. We can dumb down our OOC schedule. I believe Archie can coach and rebuild the program but he is not the pied piper as was Hurley and Harrick, and URI doesn't have the cachet of Dayton or Indiana. Plucking a few high quality players from the portal and the freshman class that will lead to immediate success will be a miracle. Let's pray. This is a 3+ year rebuild.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Wrong. We will not stink next year. Need you to lock that next to you preseason prediction
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Wrong. Miracle happening, buckle up.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoBy stink. I mean a losing record in the A10. We can dumb down our OOC schedule. I believe Archie can coach and rebuild the program but he is not the pied piper as was Hurley and Harrick, and URI doesn't have the cachet of Dayton or Indiana. Plucking a few high quality players from the portal and the freshman class that will lead to immediate success will be a miracle. Let's pray. This is a 3+ year rebuild.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Wrong. We will not stink next year. Need you to lock that next to you preseason prediction
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No, Lavar is/was right...big difference.PCFriars wrote: ↑2 years agoShe's literally Lavar Ball.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago So, Mama Mitchell must be at home right now trying to figure out how to have the twins end up on the same NBA team. LMAO!
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years agoWrong. Miracle happening, buckle up.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoBy stink. I mean a losing record in the A10. We can dumb down our OOC schedule. I believe Archie can coach and rebuild the program but he is not the pied piper as was Hurley and Harrick, and URI doesn't have the cachet of Dayton or Indiana. Plucking a few high quality players from the portal and the freshman class that will lead to immediate success will be a miracle. Let's pray. This is a 3+ year rebuild.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Wrong. We will not stink next year. Need you to lock that next to you preseason prediction
BUCKLE UP !
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I’m the first to admit I have no idea what route Archie wants to go, and I’m sure to some degree the route he ends up going will be determined by who he can get to come here - if he can get 2 or 3 guys in the portal that he thinks he can build a competitive team around, maybe he decides to go for it. But something he said a lot when he first got the job was that he wanted to build something sustainable the right way. He said that or something similar to it in several settings. To my ear, that doesn’t sound like plan 1A is to try desperately to concoct a juggernaut out of spare parts. If it lines up for him I’m sure he won’t turn down being good next season, but I don’t think he will risk the medium-term project by trying to build it on a shaky foundation. If they end up needing a year to reset the roster and get after it recruiting four year players, that’s fine by me.Gonebarongone wrote: ↑2 years agoIf you are betting, the odds of URI being any good next year are pretty low. But, it's a crazy world out there that I don't think people have rewired their brains fully to. It's just hard when you have been a fan of the sport for 5 or 50 years to consider how it is different. TJ Otzelberger went from winning a lot of games at a school that is probably the best positioned in their conference to win to sort of flaming out at a school with a pretty good pedigree. Sounds sort of familiar. The next year he took over a school that was literally winless in conference. His first year there they went to the sweet 16. One single guy who was in the top 7 in minutes played was on the Iowa State campus 12 months ago. Is that an outlier? Of course. I just don't think you can take anything off the table nowadays. Maybe Archie wants five 2022s and six 2023s and build from the bottom up. Who knows? Not impossible to be a decent team next year. Otzelberger has been recruiting midwest kids for a long time so it's probably plan B for URI. Not sure how many kids Archie recruited want the A10 and I sort of prefer finding kids and watching them grow.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years agoBy stink. I mean a losing record in the A10. We can dumb down our OOC schedule. I believe Archie can coach and rebuild the program but he is not the pied piper as was Hurley and Harrick, and URI doesn't have the cachet of Dayton or Indiana. Plucking a few high quality players from the portal and the freshman class that will lead to immediate success will be a miracle. Let's pray. This is a 3+ year rebuild.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Wrong. We will not stink next year. Need you to lock that next to you preseason prediction
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I would love to see him land 2 high rated freshman recruits. Like 4*. That will make a splash and will have the eyes looking forward to the year after this year, with lessened pressure for this year.
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"We're not going to skip any steps"TruePoint wrote: ↑2 years agoI’m the first to admit I have no idea what route Archie wants to go, and I’m sure to some degree the route he ends up going will be determined by who he can get to come here - if he can get 2 or 3 guys in the portal that he thinks he can build a competitive team around, maybe he decides to go for it. But something he said a lot when he first got the job was that he wanted to build something sustainable the right way. He said that or something similar to it in several settings. To my ear, that doesn’t sound like plan 1A is to try desperately to concoct a juggernaut out of spare parts. If it lines up for him I’m sure he won’t turn down being good next season, but I don’t think he will risk the medium-term project by trying to build it on a shaky foundation. If they end up needing a year to reset the roster and get after it recruiting four year players, that’s fine by me.Gonebarongone wrote: ↑2 years agoIf you are betting, the odds of URI being any good next year are pretty low. But, it's a crazy world out there that I don't think people have rewired their brains fully to. It's just hard when you have been a fan of the sport for 5 or 50 years to consider how it is different. TJ Otzelberger went from winning a lot of games at a school that is probably the best positioned in their conference to win to sort of flaming out at a school with a pretty good pedigree. Sounds sort of familiar. The next year he took over a school that was literally winless in conference. His first year there they went to the sweet 16. One single guy who was in the top 7 in minutes played was on the Iowa State campus 12 months ago. Is that an outlier? Of course. I just don't think you can take anything off the table nowadays. Maybe Archie wants five 2022s and six 2023s and build from the bottom up. Who knows? Not impossible to be a decent team next year. Otzelberger has been recruiting midwest kids for a long time so it's probably plan B for URI. Not sure how many kids Archie recruited want the A10 and I sort of prefer finding kids and watching them grow.Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago
By stink. I mean a losing record in the A10. We can dumb down our OOC schedule. I believe Archie can coach and rebuild the program but he is not the pied piper as was Hurley and Harrick, and URI doesn't have the cachet of Dayton or Indiana. Plucking a few high quality players from the portal and the freshman class that will lead to immediate success will be a miracle. Let's pray. This is a 3+ year rebuild.
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Got to give me more than that...... Come on ECR!
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what more do you want in 11 months??
While I doubt (sorry) we'll be in the tourney next year, if we do make it, that's a complete 180 from where we sit right now. be grateful for that.
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Can't wait for those expecting to make the NCAA's next year to be calling for Archie's head when we "underachieve" by finishing somewhere in the middle of the conference(which will be LOADED next year).
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Sean told Archie: trust Austin Carroll. Carroll's assessment of individuals is playing a big role. It's the only inside Intel he has other than film.
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I haven't looked, but I don't think there are many, if any, unsigned 4* recruits for the '22 class.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago I would love to see him land 2 high rated freshman recruits. Like 4*. That will make a splash and will have the eyes looking forward to the year after this year, with lessened pressure for this year.
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I do not see that which you described as happening here, “not skipping any steps……” is an important part of the foundation, it will take time…….Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑2 years ago Can't wait for those expecting to make the NCAA's next year to be calling for Archie's head when we "underachieve" by finishing somewhere in the middle of the conference(which will be LOADED next year).
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I think you read my comment wrong. I want to know why ECR is so convinced we will be dancing. Unless there is something we don't know. Shit, I would be blown away if we dance but I'm not expecting it..KeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 years agowhat more do you want in 11 months??
While I doubt (sorry) we'll be in the tourney next year, if we do make it, that's a complete 180 from where we sit right now. be grateful for that.
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reading is hard.MTK4L wrote: ↑2 years agoI think you read my comment wrong. I want to know why ECR is so convinced we will be dancing. Unless there is something we don't know. Shit, I would be blown away if we dance but I'm not expecting it..KeaneyBluBallz wrote: ↑2 years agowhat more do you want in 11 months??
While I doubt (sorry) we'll be in the tourney next year, if we do make it, that's a complete 180 from where we sit right now. be grateful for that.
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It is definitely happening. I think most fans understand the situation and are being pretty reasonable but a couple of our, um…loudest and most colorful…posters are doing their thing about expecting miracles and “no doubt” we will be in the tournament. It’s cool to have optimism and I don’t totally hate it, as long as it doesn’t turn the other way if, as Big Rhody said, we “underachieve” by not making it in Year 1.section(105) wrote: ↑2 years agoI do not see that which you described as happening here, “not skipping any steps……” is an important part of the foundation, it will take time…….Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑2 years ago Can't wait for those expecting to make the NCAA's next year to be calling for Archie's head when we "underachieve" by finishing somewhere in the middle of the conference(which will be LOADED next year).
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Blue no reasonable fan would put any pressure on next season. Or the one after that. Regardless of how many 4* he signed.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago I would love to see him land 2 high rated freshman recruits. Like 4*. That will make a splash and will have the eyes looking forward to the year after this year, with lessened pressure for this year.
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Waiting for ECR to respond.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoBlue no reasonable fan would put any pressure on next season. Or the one after that. Regardless of how many 4* he signed.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago I would love to see him land 2 high rated freshman recruits. Like 4*. That will make a splash and will have the eyes looking forward to the year after this year, with lessened pressure for this year.
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Arch is the 2nd best coach we could've possibly got and I won't be calling for his head anytime soon.Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑2 years ago Can't wait for those expecting to make the NCAA's next year to be calling for Archie's head when we "underachieve" by finishing somewhere in the middle of the conference(which will be LOADED next year).
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Then let's outsource those steps and focus on getting ready to go dancingsection(105) wrote: ↑2 years agoI do not see that which you described as happening here, “not skipping any steps……” is an important part of the foundation, it will take time…….Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑2 years ago Can't wait for those expecting to make the NCAA's next year to be calling for Archie's head when we "underachieve" by finishing somewhere in the middle of the conference(which will be LOADED next year).
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Wrong. There is pressure on this guy to win more than he loses. Maybe not NCAA s or Bust pressure, but there's some pressure to "be much better."bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoBlue no reasonable fan would put any pressure on next season. Or the one after that. Regardless of how many 4* he signed.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago I would love to see him land 2 high rated freshman recruits. Like 4*. That will make a splash and will have the eyes looking forward to the year after this year, with lessened pressure for this year.
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Me, you, and two others here could coach and “be much better” than the last two seasons.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years agoWrong. There is pressure on this guy to win more than he loses. Maybe not NCAA s or Bust pressure, but there's some pressure to "be much better."bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoBlue no reasonable fan would put any pressure on next season. Or the one after that. Regardless of how many 4* he signed.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago I would love to see him land 2 high rated freshman recruits. Like 4*. That will make a splash and will have the eyes looking forward to the year after this year, with lessened pressure for this year.
It’s not gonna take much.
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He said reasonabletheblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoWaiting for ECR to respond.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoBlue no reasonable fan would put any pressure on next season. Or the one after that. Regardless of how many 4* he signed.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago I would love to see him land 2 high rated freshman recruits. Like 4*. That will make a splash and will have the eyes looking forward to the year after this year, with lessened pressure for this year.
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Who is the best that we could have reasonably have gotten?NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years agoArch is the 2nd best coach we could've possibly got and I won't be calling for his head anytime soon.Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑2 years ago Can't wait for those expecting to make the NCAA's next year to be calling for Archie's head when we "underachieve" by finishing somewhere in the middle of the conference(which will be LOADED next year).
The available ones with past success are
Crean
Mack
Howland
Martin
I’d could consider Howland above Miller but not the rest.
Am I forgetting someone?
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This is what fanatics said after Hurley was hired.
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He wasn’t talking about any of those guys. He was talking about Pitino (who wasn’t available). I’d take Archie over any of those guys. I have zero expectation that Howland will ever coach a good team again. Never know, but it just seems like a decade too late to be excited about him. As far as Pitino, the two fans that have made it clear that next year is the only year that matters to them clearly would have preferred Pitino over Archie. I wouldn’t. I think Archie is perfect for where I want this program to go. He’s at the exact right stage of his career - enough experience that we know he can do it, and enough ahead of him still that he’s still in his prime and highly motivated.steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years agoWho is the best that we could have reasonably have gotten?NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years agoArch is the 2nd best coach we could've possibly got and I won't be calling for his head anytime soon.Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑2 years ago Can't wait for those expecting to make the NCAA's next year to be calling for Archie's head when we "underachieve" by finishing somewhere in the middle of the conference(which will be LOADED next year).
The available ones with past success are
Crean
Mack
Howland
Martin
I’d could consider Howland above Miller but not the rest.
Am I forgetting someone?
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Make sense since Austin worked with Sean as video coordinator when Sean won the U-19 USA team that won gold at the 2015 FIBA World Championship.
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That works great for existing players. How about prospects?
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I’m sure he’d been recruiting for Cox, too.
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That's the problem.Rhody74 wrote: ↑2 years agoI’m sure he’d been recruiting for Cox, too.
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I’m a grasso fan and a Bryant fan. Very happy to see Twan go there. He’ll have a chance at a bid
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Gtown to Rhody to Bryant. Thought the kid had more in him than that.
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I’m surprised he chose Bryant over returning to URI.
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He'll get his playing time anyway.
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Good Luck Twan. He should flourish in that open system. He will fit right in defensively.
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- ghostofkeaney
- Michael Andersen
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Re: Mitchells, Leggett, Berry, Walker, Ayo-Faleye, Betrand in 2022 portal
I’ll miss Antwan. Wish him well
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- SmartyBarrett
- Sly Williams
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Re: Mitchells, Leggett, Berry, Walker, Ayo-Faleye, Betrand in 2022 portal
Leggett, Berry, AF, and Betrand remaining. I'm starting to get the feeling that if they haven't pulled out of the portal by now, they're not going to.
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- bigappleram
- Ernie Calverley
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Re: Mitchells, Leggett, Berry, Walker, Ayo-Faleye, Betrand in 2022 portal
In that offense he will average 15+ per game and defense, well, they don’t really play defense. I’m betting he puts up big numbers there.
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