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Re: ‘19 PA SG - Dahmir Bishop (Xavier transfer)

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Obviously he wanted to be closer to home. Can't blame a kid for that.
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Well that sucks I was hoping we would get him this time. Just gonna have to beat St Joes every year for the next few. Make him realize he missed out. Twice!
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Losing out to Xavier is one thing. We lose out to freaking St Joes? Well we better hope this kid isn't as good as I think he will be.
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Re: ‘19 PA SG - Dahmir Bishop (Xavier transfer)

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What a waste. Who wants to go to st. Joes??
Obviously he wanted to be close to home. Odd call for a highly rated recruit.
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It could be a couple reasons

1. He wanted to be close to home

2. He saw a lot of the activity with players transferring and also was worried about playing time here

3. Maybe his friendship with Fatts isn’t as good as we thought after he thought he was coming to URI and Fatts thought he could get him here
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Home is usually where they go when they’re going through difficult situations. It doesn’t make sense to go there but here’s to beating him next season.
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RamStock wrote: 4 years ago It could be a couple reasons

1. He wanted to be close to home

2. He saw a lot of the activity with players transferring and also was worried about playing time here

3. Maybe his friendship with Fatts isn’t as good as we thought after he thought he was coming to URI and Fatts thought he could get him here
4. St Joe’s was more interested
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Iggy1979 wrote: 4 years ago
RamStock wrote: 4 years ago It could be a couple reasons

1. He wanted to be close to home

2. He saw a lot of the activity with players transferring and also was worried about playing time here

3. Maybe his friendship with Fatts isn’t as good as we thought after he thought he was coming to URI and Fatts thought he could get him here
4. St Joe’s was more interested
Hate to state the obvious, but we have very little going as it appears in terms of filling three spots. We aren’t going to get anyone close to Bishop’s ability. I guess we will have an open spot or a transfer
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His stats at Xavier we’re pretty awful so I hope we get someone close.
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RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: 4 years ago
RamStock wrote: 4 years ago It could be a couple reasons

1. He wanted to be close to home

2. He saw a lot of the activity with players transferring and also was worried about playing time here

3. Maybe his friendship with Fatts isn’t as good as we thought after he thought he was coming to URI and Fatts thought he could get him here
4. St Joe’s was more interested
Hate to state the obvious, but we have very little going as it appears in terms of filling three spots. We aren’t going to get anyone close to Bishop’s ability. I guess we will have an open spot or a transfer
How do you know what the staff has going? Did you know about Long before he committed or Toppin before he committed?
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: 4 years ago

4. St Joe’s was more interested
Hate to state the obvious, but we have very little going as it appears in terms of filling three spots. We aren’t going to get anyone close to Bishop’s ability. I guess we will have an open spot or a transfer
How do you know what the staff has going? Did you know about Long before he committed or Toppin before he committed?
They have their hands in a lot of pots. Not to worry.
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I'm actually not shocked, disappointed but not shocked. If he was gonna transfer here, he would have been behind fatts and probably Sheppard 2nd semester next year, then competing with Wood and Ish the year after. He wouldnt have been close to home which sounds like it was a huge part of his desire to transfer.
Like I said disappointed but on to the next.
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phipsiGD'11 wrote: 4 years ago I'm actually not shocked, disappointed but not shocked. If he was gonna transfer here, he would have been behind fatts and probably Sheppard 2nd semester next year, then competing with Wood and Ish the year after. He wouldnt have been close to home which sounds like it was a huge part of his desire to transfer.
Like I said disappointed but on to the next.
He also would have been competing with Martin, Toppin & Long for playing time at the 3 which would be tough. He wasn’t going to play any PG.
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On to the next one.
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Yeah I guess being close to home played a big part and they are bad so he should play a lot

I am sure Cox and staff will find us players
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: 4 years ago

4. St Joe’s was more interested
Hate to state the obvious, but we have very little going as it appears in terms of filling three spots. We aren’t going to get anyone close to Bishop’s ability. I guess we will have an open spot or a transfer
How do you know what the staff has going? Did you know about Long before he committed or Toppin before he committed?
Toppin is a fair point. This is pretty rare to get someone who fell that far under the radar until late when the recruiting picked up. He is a gem and they were on him ahead of time to hold off bigger schools. I like Long’s defense and will always be a good rotational player. I just don’t want the Johnson type recruits from the juco if we are trying to fill spots. I guess we will see what happens. Need one big and one outside three point specialist
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DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago On to the next one.
Yeah, but we need 3.
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They have their hands in a lot of pots. Not to worry.
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This is all well and good, but when they pull their hands out of the pots let's hope we get a grand prize or two, not consolation prizes.. Keep those rumors coming.. Enjoyable reading..
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Staying close to home will increase his chances for a waiver to play 1st semester next season. He will use family as the reasoning for the transfer. Would not have been able to do that going to school hundreds of miles away.
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RF1 wrote: 4 years ago Staying close to home will increase his chances for a waiver to play 1st semester next season. He will use family as the reasoning for the transfer. Would not have been able to do that going to school hundreds of miles away.
That's a very good point and could have been a big driver in his decision.
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As soon as I read one of the reasons for transferring was that he was homesick, I figured St. Joe's would have an advantage over us. I was hoping for him to come here and am disappointed, but certainly not shocked.
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Guaranteed playing time.
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago Guaranteed playing time.
They will build around him there. URI wouldn’t have done that. He would’ve had to earn his PT.
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If he wouldn't have been guaranteed playing time here, then he's not the player he was in high school.
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While I was all for adding Bishop, our incoming freshmen guards look pretty good. Hopefully Sheppard is hitting the books.
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St Joe Board has some pretty interesting comments about Rhody...

https://247sports.com/college/saint-jos ... 69/?page=2
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Billyboy78 wrote: 4 years ago If he wouldn't have been guaranteed playing time here, then he's not the player he was in high school.
Don’t agree with that. He was not a good shooter in high school. He wasn’t the best player on his HS team his Sr year. Donta Scott was.
Most HC don’t guarantee playing time. They give each player the opportunities in practice to earn playing time. He struggled at Xavier as has been posted on this thread.
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 4 years ago If he wouldn't have been guaranteed playing time here, then he's not the player he was in high school.
Don’t agree with that. He was not a good shooter in high school. He wasn’t the best player on his HS team his Sr year. Donta Scott was.
Most HC don’t guarantee playing time. They give each player the opportunities in practice to earn playing time. He struggled at Xavier as has been posted on this thread.
To be fair, he is a freshman who hasn’t been given much of an opportunity yet. I’m not sure what has taken place in practice, but he will most likely be a good get for St.Josephs.
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RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 4 years ago If he wouldn't have been guaranteed playing time here, then he's not the player he was in high school.
Don’t agree with that. He was not a good shooter in high school. He wasn’t the best player on his HS team his Sr year. Donta Scott was.
Most HC don’t guarantee playing time. They give each player the opportunities in practice to earn playing time. He struggled at Xavier as has been posted on this thread.
To be fair, he is a freshman who hasn’t been given much of an opportunity yet. I’m not sure what has taken place in practice, but he will most likely be a good get for St.Josephs.
He averaged 10 mins/game as a Fr for a P6 team. Granted his minutes had declined. He played 120 minutes and his shooting stats where 4-28 FG, 2-17 3P & 4-13 FT. If he was doing that in his Fr year for URI, Rhody fans would be killing him. He had poor shooting %s his last year of AAU. I don’t think he is a good shooter and it is unlikely he will be a good shooter next year.

How could Cox guarantee him playing time next year. Who would you have him playing before at the 2 & 3 next year?
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago

Don’t agree with that. He was not a good shooter in high school. He wasn’t the best player on his HS team his Sr year. Donta Scott was.
Most HC don’t guarantee playing time. They give each player the opportunities in practice to earn playing time. He struggled at Xavier as has been posted on this thread.
To be fair, he is a freshman who hasn’t been given much of an opportunity yet. I’m not sure what has taken place in practice, but he will most likely be a good get for St.Josephs.
He averaged 10 mins/game as a Fr for a P6 team. Granted his minutes had declined. He played 120 minutes and his shooting stats where 4-28 FG, 2-17 3P & 4-13 FT. If he was doing that in his Fr year for URI, Rhody fans would be killing him. He had poor shooting %s his last year of AAU. I don’t think he is a good shooter and it is unlikely he will be a good shooter next year.

How could Cox guarantee him playing time next year. Who would you have him playing before at the 2 & 3 next year?
I didn’t say that Cox would guarantee him time. The choice is up to Bishop. My only point is that I find it very hard to believe that we find three better players than him with the remaining three spots. Outside of Toppin it isn’t like we have Duke quality players at the 2-3 spots. I think we overate our players. Bishop may not indeed be better than some of the players we have and may end up a bust, but when we start talking about the depth we have it is a little much when this is a team that will looks headed for the NIT at best.
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ramster wrote: 4 years ago St Joe Board has some pretty interesting comments about Rhody...

https://247sports.com/college/saint-jos ... 69/?page=2
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago

Don’t agree with that. He was not a good shooter in high school. He wasn’t the best player on his HS team his Sr year. Donta Scott was.
Most HC don’t guarantee playing time. They give each player the opportunities in practice to earn playing time. He struggled at Xavier as has been posted on this thread.
To be fair, he is a freshman who hasn’t been given much of an opportunity yet. I’m not sure what has taken place in practice, but he will most likely be a good get for St.Josephs.
He averaged 10 mins/game as a Fr for a P6 team. Granted his minutes had declined. He played 120 minutes and his shooting stats where 4-28 FG, 2-17 3P & 4-13 FT. If he was doing that in his Fr year for URI, Rhody fans would be killing him. He had poor shooting %s his last year of AAU. I don’t think he is a good shooter and it is unlikely he will be a good shooter next year.

How could Cox guarantee him playing time next year. Who would you have him playing before at the 2 & 3 next year?
Also I was curious what happened to that player that you compared to Stan Robinson or better? You said that shooting mechanics could be worked on when he got to Kingston. Didn’t Jared Terrell improve greatly? We can assume he wasn’t going to be the next Jimmy Baron from the outside, but tons of talent. I guess his continued struggles shooting made you sour on him. We have a somewhat similar situation with Harris as his improvement has been slow. I’m a little skeptical on Bishop at this point also, but not just because of his shooting, but where his head and attitude to compete are at. Mute point now with him off the table. On to the next guy.
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I think Bishop can produce as a slasher. He needs to bulk up if he is going to be like Stan. His FT shooting raised a red flag. Hard to play SG if you even struggle shooting FTs. Stan played the 3 (and even some undersized 4). I would rather have Toppin play the 3. Toppin is 32-72 FG, 7-29 3P & 10-18 FT. Long is 11-40 FG, 3-10 3P, 9-14 FT.
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I got a kick out of the Philadelphian mocking the RI accent.
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Getting 18 minutes off the bench. Mediocre shooting #s.
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UCH21377 wrote: 4 years ago I got a kick out of the Philadelphian mocking the RI accent.
Well...like most accents, it is mockable...
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Iggy1979 wrote: 2 years ago Getting 18 minutes off the bench. Mediocre shooting #s.
Another recruit that we made out to be the next POY in the A10 and he's nothing more then an average A10 player..
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steveystuds06 wrote: 2 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: 2 years ago Getting 18 minutes off the bench. Mediocre shooting #s.
Another recruit that we made out to be the next POY in the A10 and he's nothing more then an average A10 player..
We seem to do that a lot, that's why I've stopped getting excited about recruits.

Didn't someone here compare our last top recruit to HOFer Patrick Ewing?
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steveystuds06 wrote: 2 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: 2 years ago Getting 18 minutes off the bench. Mediocre shooting #s.
Another recruit that we made out to be the next POY in the A10 and he's nothing more then an average A10 player..
I saw him play in a high school tournament in Vegas , Cox and Ty were there he hit an early 3 then disappeared the rest of the way glad we didn’t get him
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Transfer to FGCU
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Iggy1979 wrote: 2 years ago Transfer to FGCU
Link? Not that I doubt you, but I can't find his Twitter account, which is typically where they post this kind of info.

ETA: Managed to hunt down. Original tweet that Verbal Commits RT:

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