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You should go read Indiana basketball message boards starting about three years ago if you’re going to act like that’s a worthy pursuit to gain valuable and realistic information.
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Those are the same gripes some PC fans had with Cooley. He runs the flex, doesn’t recruit shooters, bad Xs and Os. How’d that turn out? Those are the same gripes you will find with almost every internet fan base. Chk what some Dayton fans say about Grant.
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ace wrote: 2 years ago You should go read Indiana basketball message boards starting about three years ago if you're going to act like that's a worthy pursuit to gain valuable and realistic information.
Archie got fired for not getting results right, so were they wrong?

Dan is not on the hot seat. I think he will start to win tournament games because he's great at his job. But if he does lose in the first round again next year or simply doesn't make it for whatever reason, I could see his seat getting warm and I agree with that. This isn't Rhode Island. You need to go deep in the tournament at UConn.
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They did not mess around when there is money to be made

https://www.homefieldapparel.com/collec ... cks-shirts

How do you get them to make Rhody gear? Homefield’s stuff is consistently great.
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bigappleram wrote: 2 years ago Those are the same gripes some PC fans had with Cooley. He runs the flex, doesn’t recruit shooters, bad Xs and Os. How’d that turn out? Those are the same gripes you will find with almost every internet fan base. Chk what some Dayton fans say about Grant.
As late as early this season a few Providence fans thought Cooley had to go because they didn’t beat Fairfield and New Hampshire by enough.

There are endless scenarios where Archie doesn’t get fired at Indiana, the main one being that they would have been in the 2020 tournament. People get fired all the time without deserving it, but someone has to be the fall guy. Head coaches know it’s part of the deal.
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Da_Process_Survivor wrote: 2 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: 2 years ago
Rhode_Island_Red wrote: 2 years ago

Obvious nepotism hire Dan Gavitt has one job -- keep the Cartel from leaving.
Remember when you said the “cartel” rigs everything for the P6?

25% of the Elite 8 comes from outside the P6 conferences.

But keep pushing your agenda!
36 at large bids and a grand total of 6 were from outside a P6 conference

Memphis - lost second round
Davidson - lost first round
St Mary’s - lost second round
San Francisco - lost first round
Colorado St - lost first round
Wyoming - lost first four
San Diego St - lost first round

7 teams.

Also, not making it to the sweet 16 isn’t helping mid major matters in regards to at large bids.
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ace wrote: 2 years ago You should go read Indiana basketball message boards starting about three years ago if you’re going to act like that’s a worthy pursuit to gain valuable and realistic information.
To be fair, at blue blood programs the message boards and fans are worth paying attention to with regards to the coach, even if their not entirely rational.

At blue bloods the fans' displeasure gets guys canned, like you said even if they've had some success. Angry fans stop donating and stop showing up, that's a death sentence at that level.

Hell, UConn fans helped get a former player ran out of town a mere 3 years after he won them a national championship
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Da_Process_Survivor wrote: 2 years ago
ace wrote: 2 years ago You should go read Indiana basketball message boards starting about three years ago if you’re going to act like that’s a worthy pursuit to gain valuable and realistic information.
To be fair, at blue blood programs the message boards and fans are worth paying attention to with regards to the coach, even if their not entirely rational.

At blue bloods the fans' displeasure gets guys canned, like you said even if they've had some success. Angry fans stop donating and stop showing up, that's a death sentence at that level.

Hell, UConn fans helped get a former player ran out of town a mere 3 years after he won them a national championship
I don’t think blue blood message boards are any better or worse barometer than non blue blood message boards. Not even sure what that means. Every message board is filled with fan discontent. From what I can see on Twitter UConn’s fanbase still seems very much behind DH. I also think it’s fair to say that next season he will have some pressure to advance in March but the line between great and underachieving is a thin one.
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Shinze88 wrote: 2 years ago
Ramulous wrote: 2 years ago The big east teams will never agree to a challenge series with the A10. Too much to lose.
The BE will never agree to a challenge with the A10 because there would be absolutely no buzz for it to happen outside of fans of A10 schools. As much as some A10 teams improved, we were a 1 bid league if Richmond doesn't get the auto bid. The A10 as a whole would need to get much better before this would even be considered. A10 vs Mountain West is a better series.
False, we were a two bid league. Richmond winning the autobid knocked Dayton out of the tournament
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bigappleram wrote: 2 years ago
Da_Process_Survivor wrote: 2 years ago
ace wrote: 2 years ago You should go read Indiana basketball message boards starting about three years ago if you’re going to act like that’s a worthy pursuit to gain valuable and realistic information.
To be fair, at blue blood programs the message boards and fans are worth paying attention to with regards to the coach, even if their not entirely rational.

At blue bloods the fans' displeasure gets guys canned, like you said even if they've had some success. Angry fans stop donating and stop showing up, that's a death sentence at that level.

Hell, UConn fans helped get a former player ran out of town a mere 3 years after he won them a national championship
I don’t think blue blood message boards are any better or worse barometer than non blue blood message boards. Not even sure what that means. Every message board is filled with fan discontent. From what I can see on Twitter UConn’s fanbase still seems very much behind DH. I also think it’s fair to say that next season he will have some pressure to advance in March but the line between great and underachieving is a thin one.
I could see DH being let go next year if he doesn't advance.
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ace wrote: 2 years ago They did not mess around when there is money to be made

https://www.homefieldapparel.com/collec ... cks-shirts

How do you get them to make Rhody gear? Homefield’s stuff is consistently great.
Just further proof of how bad our licensing/apparel situation is. Radford is on that site but we can't get anything
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RhowdyRam02 wrote: 2 years ago
ace wrote: 2 years ago They did not mess around when there is money to be made

https://www.homefieldapparel.com/collec ... cks-shirts

How do you get them to make Rhody gear? Homefield’s stuff is consistently great.
Just further proof of how bad our licensing/apparel situation is. Radford is on that site but we can't get anything
I'd rather have elite status with Adidas then be on a knock off site. Bet you Radford and St Peters would too
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RhowdyRam02 wrote: 2 years ago
Shinze88 wrote: 2 years ago
Ramulous wrote: 2 years ago The big east teams will never agree to a challenge series with the A10. Too much to lose.
The BE will never agree to a challenge with the A10 because there would be absolutely no buzz for it to happen outside of fans of A10 schools. As much as some A10 teams improved, we were a 1 bid league if Richmond doesn't get the auto bid. The A10 as a whole would need to get much better before this would even be considered. A10 vs Mountain West is a better series.
False, we were a two bid league. Richmond winning the autobid knocked Dayton out of the tournament
Three bid if Dayton didn't have 4 inexplicable losses to quad 4 teams
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PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: 2 years ago
Shinze88 wrote: 2 years ago

The BE will never agree to a challenge with the A10 because there would be absolutely no buzz for it to happen outside of fans of A10 schools. As much as some A10 teams improved, we were a 1 bid league if Richmond doesn't get the auto bid. The A10 as a whole would need to get much better before this would even be considered. A10 vs Mountain West is a better series.
False, we were a two bid league. Richmond winning the autobid knocked Dayton out of the tournament
Three bid if Dayton didn't have 4 inexplicable losses to quad 4 teams
Yes those very early home losses cost them, but between their freshmen and transfers it took them a little while to get in the groove.
They were a much different team as the season went on.
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theblueram wrote: 2 years ago
bigappleram wrote: 2 years ago
Da_Process_Survivor wrote: 2 years ago

To be fair, at blue blood programs the message boards and fans are worth paying attention to with regards to the coach, even if their not entirely rational.

At blue bloods the fans' displeasure gets guys canned, like you said even if they've had some success. Angry fans stop donating and stop showing up, that's a death sentence at that level.

Hell, UConn fans helped get a former player ran out of town a mere 3 years after he won them a national championship
I don’t think blue blood message boards are any better or worse barometer than non blue blood message boards. Not even sure what that means. Every message board is filled with fan discontent. From what I can see on Twitter UConn’s fanbase still seems very much behind DH. I also think it’s fair to say that next season he will have some pressure to advance in March but the line between great and underachieving is a thin one.
I could see DH being let go next year if he doesn't advance.
I’d be surprised if that happens maybe if no NCAAT in 2 years but I still think they are trending up
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reef wrote: 2 years ago
theblueram wrote: 2 years ago
bigappleram wrote: 2 years ago

I don’t think blue blood message boards are any better or worse barometer than non blue blood message boards. Not even sure what that means. Every message board is filled with fan discontent. From what I can see on Twitter UConn’s fanbase still seems very much behind DH. I also think it’s fair to say that next season he will have some pressure to advance in March but the line between great and underachieving is a thin one.
I could see DH being let go next year if he doesn't advance.
I’d be surprised if that happens maybe if no NCAAT in 2 years but I still think they are trending up
UConn should be right in the mix again next season, but lots of competition.
The BE will be strong again:
Villanova always good.
PC coming off their best season in years.
Creighton with all their youth will keep getting better.
Shaka has Marquette on the right track.
Let's see what Sean does with the talent at Xavier.
Another run for Holloway at SH?
St. John's has good players but this season was a disappointment.
Ewing needs to turn things around at Georgetown.
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reef wrote: 2 years ago
theblueram wrote: 2 years ago
bigappleram wrote: 2 years ago

I don’t think blue blood message boards are any better or worse barometer than non blue blood message boards. Not even sure what that means. Every message board is filled with fan discontent. From what I can see on Twitter UConn’s fanbase still seems very much behind DH. I also think it’s fair to say that next season he will have some pressure to advance in March but the line between great and underachieving is a thin one.
I could see DH being let go next year if he doesn't advance.
I’d be surprised if that happens maybe if no NCAAT in 2 years but I still think they are trending up
Well up is an NCAAT Championship. They had one in 2014. They are no where close right now.
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ramster wrote: 2 years ago Saturday Games - Elite 8:
5-seed Houston (-2.5) vs 2-seed Villanova 6:09pm TBS
4-seed Arkansas vs 2-seed Duke (-4) 8:49pm TBS

Sunday Games - Elite 8:
10-seed Miami vs 1-seed Kansas (-6) 2:20 PM CBS
15-seed Saint Peter's vs 8-seed North Carolina (-8) 5:05 PM CBS

NET Going into the NCAA Tournament:
3-Houston
6-Kansas
8-Villanova
12-Duke
20-Arkansas
31-North Carolina
62-Miami
124-St Peters
All good games. Fun time of year!

St Pete’s NET and Rhody’s very similar. Makes my head spin!
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Would be something if we ever get good enough where we would be unhappy with repeated 1st round losses in the NCAA tournament, like UConn fans are currently.
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theblueram wrote: 2 years ago
reef wrote: 2 years ago
theblueram wrote: 2 years ago

I could see DH being let go next year if he doesn't advance.
I’d be surprised if that happens maybe if no NCAAT in 2 years but I still think they are trending up
Well up is an NCAAT Championship. They had one in 2014. They are no where close right now.
They were probably 1 more wing scorer away from being a final four contender this year. Nowhere close isn’t accurate. They were ranked in the top 20 basically all season.
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Jersey77 wrote: 2 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
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False, we were a two bid league. Richmond winning the autobid knocked Dayton out of the tournament
Three bid if Dayton didn't have 4 inexplicable losses to quad 4 teams
Yes those very early home losses cost them, but between their freshmen and transfers it took them a little while to get in the groove.
They were a much different team as the season went on.
They figured it out quick

One week they are losing to Lipscomb, UMass Lowell, and Austin Peay

The next they beat Kansas, Miami and Belmont and win a non conference tournament.

Then a late loss to LA Salle cost them
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PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
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PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
Three bid if Dayton didn't have 4 inexplicable losses to quad 4 teams
Yes those very early home losses cost them, but between their freshmen and transfers it took them a little while to get in the groove.
They were a much different team as the season went on.
They figured it out quick

One week they are losing to Lipscomb, UMass Lowell, and Austin Peay

The next they beat Kansas, Miami and Belmont and win a non conference tournament.

Then a late loss to LA Salle cost them
I believe according to the seed list Dayton was the first team out also.
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Yeah Dayton couldn’t overcome those 4 horrific losses definitely cost them a bid
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ace wrote: 2 years ago They did not mess around when there is money to be made

https://www.homefieldapparel.com/collec ... cks-shirts

How do you get them to make Rhody gear? Homefield’s stuff is consistently great.
I neeeeeeedreeed rhody homefield gear.. might buy some of the new St. Peter’s stuff
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I blame myself for Houston's loss, because I actually made sure to go and watch it at a local bar, instead of just following along on the computer. Also, yesterday playing pick-up hoops at UH, I made one god damn shot in about three hours. Clearly, they were secretly watching and taking the wrong lessons from my performance.
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theblueram wrote: 2 years ago
reef wrote: 2 years ago
theblueram wrote: 2 years ago

I could see DH being let go next year if he doesn't advance.
I’d be surprised if that happens maybe if no NCAAT in 2 years but I still think they are trending up
Well up is an NCAAT Championship. They had one in 2014. They are no where close right now.
“Up” for them right now is winning games in the tournament, which Hurley hasn’t done thetr yet.

You have ridiculous expect for every team in college basketball, lol.

I’m sure UConn fans would love a second weekend trip next season and be ok with it.

Can’t win/compete for national titles every season.

The top two brands in college basketball last season didn’t make the tourney. One of those teams lost first round this season to a 15 seed.

It’s hard to be a legit contender every season.
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SGreenwell wrote: 2 years ago I blame myself for Houston's loss, because I actually made sure to go and watch it at a local bar, instead of just following along on the computer. Also, yesterday playing pick-up hoops at UH, I made one god damn shot in about three hours. Clearly, they were secretly watching and taking the wrong lessons from my performance.
Tell Kelvin you’re sorry. But seriously, they had an amazing and improbable run and provided the blueprint for every team not in a major conference. Be elite and the rest will take care of itself.

Brutal ending for Justin Moore, though.
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SGreenwell wrote: 2 years ago I blame myself for Houston's loss, because I actually made sure to go and watch it at a local bar, instead of just following along on the computer. Also, yesterday playing pick-up hoops at UH, I made one god damn shot in about three hours. Clearly, they were secretly watching and taking the wrong lessons from my performance.
Houston shot it so poorly 1-20 not going to win any games shooting like that and Nova is so well coached and mentally tough
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Just a couple of legends talking shop before the Purdue upset.
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Coach K trying to pull a Johnny Wooden in 75
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Today's Games:

Duke and Villanova advanced to the Final 4 on Saturday.

Sunday Games - Elite 8:
10-seed Miami vs 1-seed Kansas (-6) 2:20 PM CBS
15-seed Saint Peter's vs 8-seed North Carolina (-8.5) 5:05 PM CBS

NET Going into the NCAA Tournament of the Elite 8 Teams:
Bold/Blue are playing today

3-Houston
6-Kansas
8-Villanova
12-Duke
20-Arkansas
31-North Carolina
62-Miami
124-St Peters
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reef wrote: 2 years ago Coach K trying to pull a Johnny Wooden in 75
Is that going out in last game as NCAA champ? If so, didn’t Al Mcquire also do that at Marquette?
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section(105) wrote: 2 years ago
reef wrote: 2 years ago Coach K trying to pull a Johnny Wooden in 75
Is that going out in last game as NCAA champ? If so, didn’t Al Mcquire also do that at Marquette?
Yes, Mcquire retired after winning the National Championship at 48.

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That Marquette, Al McGuire team was fun to watch. Butch Lee, Bo Ellis, Whitehead - real good players. I enjoyed McGuire as a commentator too. He’d come out with some great stuff to describe a play or a players style of play like, french pastry. That was some funny shit!
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 2 years ago That Marquette, Al McGuire team was fun to watch. Butch Lee, Bo Ellis, Whitehead - real good players. I enjoyed McGuire as a commentator too. He’d come out with some great stuff to describe a play or a players style of play like, french pastry. That was some funny shit!
Yes, indeed, he put his stamp on basketball terminology. Whitehead was the “Aircraft Carrier”.
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Al McGuire did our regionals broadcasting in 98 with Timmy Brando
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Kansas with an impressive 2h should be a nice National Semi v Nova
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reef wrote: 2 years ago Kansas with an impressive 2h should be a nice National Semi v Nova
Tough break for Nova with the injury to Justin Moore their 2nd leading scorer.
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Jersey77 wrote: 2 years ago
reef wrote: 2 years ago Kansas with an impressive 2h should be a nice National Semi v Nova
Tough break for Nova with the injury to Justin Moore their 2nd leading scorer.
Agree, Jersey. I feel for him. I can’t imagine missing out on playing in a Final Four. Man, that’s rough.
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And of course Saint Peter's goes ICE cold and we get zero entertainment from the entire elite 8. Chalk blowouts. Yay...😑
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Wow, Kansas sure looked good in that second half.

UNC looking real good, too! Come on St Peter’s get back in this game!
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 2 years ago Wow, Kansas sure looked good in that second half.

UNC looking real good, too! Come on St Peter’s get back in this game!
Saint Peter's is being cursed by the fact that they're playing a blueblood.

Duke, UNC, etc. Just seem to make teams go cold by their sheer presence.

Like the last two times we played Duke.

UNC is playing well, but as soon as Saint Peter's missed those first three shots it was over. Makes no sense how they can all of the sudden go completely ice cold.
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PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: 2 years ago Wow, Kansas sure looked good in that second half.

UNC looking real good, too! Come on St Peter’s get back in this game!
Saint Peter's is being cursed by the fact that they're playing a blueblood.

Duke, UNC, etc. Just seem to make teams go cold by their sheer presence.

Like the last two times we played Duke.

UNC is playing well, but as soon as Saint Peter's missed those first three shots it was over. Makes no sense how they can all of the sudden go completely ice cold.
I don't know, they took care of Kentucky pretty good.
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Carolina is doing to St. Peter's what they did to us in 1993.
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The script is written
Duke/UNC winner goes to the championship game.....
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Rhode_Island_Red wrote: 2 years ago Carolina is doing to St. Peter's what they did to us in 1993.
I was having flashbacks of that nightmare.
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DeanDome88 wrote: 2 years ago
Rhode_Island_Red wrote: 2 years ago Carolina is doing to St. Peter's what they did to us in 1993.
I was having flashbacks of that nightmare.
Wasn't alive then

I'm sure that was embarrassing...beat a good Purdue team, feeling all that Rhody pride then get killed like that. That game and Duke 2018 shouldn't have happened like that.
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RI_Bred wrote: 2 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: 2 years ago Wow, Kansas sure looked good in that second half.

UNC looking real good, too! Come on St Peter’s get back in this game!
Saint Peter's is being cursed by the fact that they're playing a blueblood.

Duke, UNC, etc. Just seem to make teams go cold by their sheer presence.

Like the last two times we played Duke.

UNC is playing well, but as soon as Saint Peter's missed those first three shots it was over. Makes no sense how they can all of the sudden go completely ice cold.
I don't know, they took care of Kentucky pretty good.
Yes, they did handle UK well. Was fun too watch even though they ruined my brackets.

Fear is a great motivator. I’m guessing the UNC staff didn’t get much sleep since Friday due to studying every tape they could find on St Peter’s and coming up with a game plan.
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Too bad this game isn't more competitive. Elite Eight ending with a whimper.
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