Men's Postseason Tournament Talk 2021-22

[Rhody74]

Ohio State defense is really tough.

[SGreenwell]

There's definitely some valid beef with Cal. More videos in that thread, too. A lot of it looks familiar.....

I don’t think you pay Cal for his tactical acumen. I don’t think of him as being a dummy, but the reason he’s there is because of the players he brings in. If they fired Cal because they wanted better Xs and Os, they would literally make it one recruiting cycle before they were calling for the next guy to be fired.

I do wonder if we're getting close to a breaking point with Cal, though. Another board I'm on, a poster pointed out that it's been 7 or 8 years since a Final Four for him. He can win if he has *overwhelming* talent, but we saw this year that he had to play Obi Toppin major minutes - a nice player in the A-10, but not exactly a five-star NBA-style recruit. I think most other major programs are much more comfortable recruiting one-and-done guys, even Gonzaga. It's definitely a First World Problem among college basketball programs, but Kentucky might need more of a tactician, since they're among the bluest of bloods, that's probably going to be able to recruit proper talent most years anyway.

[SGreenwell]

Also, after roughly one day - The NCAA NET All-Chalk Bracket on Yahoo is checkin' in at 12th, out of 36th participants, with 10 points. The KenPom All-Chalk Bracket is 23rd, with nine points.

[RamStock]

Ohio State defense is really tough.

Combination of that and Loyola isn’t nearly as good as they were in the past. They had many games they were lucky to win this year.

[reef]

After yesterday's action, here are the FirstFour/First Round losers ranked by NET :

1. Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 241
2. Bryant 200
3. Texas Southern 197
4. Georgia State 159
5. Norfolk State 156
6. Akron 127
7. Longwood 125
8. Rutgers 77
9. South Dakota State 65
10. Vermont 52
11. Wyoming 50
12. Marquette 42
13. Indiana 38
14. Boise State 29
15. Colorado State 28
16. San Diego State 25
17. San Francisco 22
18. UConn 17
19. Iowa 14
20. Kentucky 5

You could say neither the Big Ten or the Big East had a good day.

What do we make of the Mountain West going 0-4 ??

[PCFriars]

What can you guys tell me about Richmond? Based on the little I know of them, seems like they are kind of a mirror image of PC in terms of talent and experience this year.

How well did they handle the Mitchells’ size?

[DeanDome88]

What can you guys tell me about Richmond? Based on the little I know of them, seems like they are kind of a mirror image of PC in terms of talent and experience this year.

How well did they handle the Mitchells’ size?

IMHO Richmond does not beat themselves but if you play well you should beat them.

[Rhody74]

I think Grant Golden is soft. Watson could have a huge game. Watch out if Hilyard gets hot though.

[Rhody74]

Watching Jameer Nelson Jr play for Delaware makes me feel old.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Can't believe how bad USC is playing.

[Rhody15]

What can you guys tell me about Richmond? Based on the little I know of them, seems like they are kind of a mirror image of PC in terms of talent and experience this year.

How well did they handle the Mitchells’ size?

They all have Covid, every variant.

You guys should take the forfeited and and come back home.

[reef]

What can you guys tell me about Richmond? Based on the little I know of them, seems like they are kind of a mirror image of PC in terms of talent and experience this year.

How well did they handle the Mitchells’ size?

Rhody had Richmond by 15 in both games and they came back to win , they are a veteran team but you guys should win if you play well

[RI_Bred]

I think PC lucked out getting to play Richmond. Yes they are "peaking", but they finished 7th in the A10 regular season and have now won 6 in a row.

Richmond will run out of steam I'm guessing. Which sucks of course.

[PCFriars]

I think Grant Golden is soft. Watson could have a huge game. Watch out if Hilyard gets hot though.

That’s not surprising to hear on Golden. His brother plays for Butler and is soft as can be.

[Da_Process_Survivor]

I think Grant Golden is soft. Watson could have a huge game. Watch out if Hilyard gets hot though.

That’s not surprising to hear on Golden. His brother plays for Butler and is soft as can be.

Grant Golden is also a hot headed crybaby. Things don't go his way and he quickly starts raising his arms at the refs and can get taken out of the game mentally.

Langevine used to give him fits. He doesn't do well with physical post defenders

[ramster]

I think Grant Golden is soft. Watson could have a huge game. Watch out if Hilyard gets hot though.

That’s not surprising to hear on Golden. His brother plays for Butler and is soft as can be.

Grant Golden is also a hot headed crybaby. Things don't go his way and he quickly starts raising his arms at the refs and can get taken out of the game mentally.

Langevine used to give him fits. He doesn't do well with physical post defenders

In the two games this season:

Jan 25: Richmond won 70-63
Golden 26 min, 15P / 9R, 3 assists, 1 TO, 6-12 FG, 2-4 3FG, 1-1 FT

Mar 10: Richmond won 64-59
Golden 28 min, 19P / 3R, 1 assist, 2 TO, 6-12 FG, 7-10 FT

[ramster]

Chattanooga vs Illinois was great game. Illinois led only the last 30 seconds of the game and pulled it out.

Davidson leads Michigan State 52-49 with 10 minutes to go.

Interesting note Foster Loyer was the Team Captain at Michigan State and now he is Team Captain at Davidson - playing his former team in the NCAA Tournament. Hell of a game right now. Well played by both teams.

[Puck Frovidence]

Stripes pulling the typical hosejob on Davidson in the final minutes in the West.

[steviep123]

Stripes pulling the typical hosejob on Davidson in the final minutes in the West.

Yup. Not an offensive foul. The idea of replay is to get the call right!

Plus two quick whistles at least one was a clear turnover and not a foul. If only these refs were there in 98 when the entire world knew Mobley was being purposely fouled except the refs on the court.

[rhodylaw]

Stripes pulling the typical hosejob on Davidson in the final minutes in the West.

That Hauser kid is a grade A flopper - two calls where he wasn’t touched.

[Puck Frovidence]

How do these announcers not call any of this shit out? Unbelievable. Davidson did nearly everything but the game is literally handed to Izzo.

[ramster]

10-seed Davidson loses 73-74 to 7-seed Michigan State. Great game.

14-seed Colgate and 3-seed Wisconsin tied 37-37 with 16 minutes to go

[Puck Frovidence]

Holy cow this Colgate Wisconsin game is nuts

[ramster]

Holy cow this Colgate Wisconsin game is nuts

It is.

[ramster]

Saturday's 8 games:

12:10pm: 1-seed Baylor (-5.5) vs 8-seed UNC
2:40pm: 1-seed Kansas (-11.5) vs 9-seed Creighton
5:15pm: 3-seed Tennessee (-6) vs 11-seed Michigan
6:10pm: 4-seed PC (-3) vs 12-seed Richmond
7:10pm: 4-seed UCLA (-3) vs 5-seed St Mary's
7:45pm: 7-seed Murray State (-9) vs 15-seed St Peters
8:40pm: 4-seed Arkansas (-6.5) vs 12-seed New Mexico State
9:40pm: 1-seed Gonzaga (-10) vs 9-seed Memphis

[Rhode_Island_Red]

LET'S GO SPIDERS!

[ramster]

Sunday's 8 games:

12:10pm: 5-seed Houston (-4.5) vs 4-seed Illinois
2:40pm: 2-seed Villanova (-5.5) vs 7-seed Ohio State
5:15pm: 2-seed Duke (-6.5) vs 7-seed Michigan State
6:10pm: 3-seed Wisconsin (-3) vs 11-seed Iowa State
7:10pm: 3-seed Texas Tech (-7.5) vs 11-seed Notre Dame
7:45pm: 2-seed Auburn (-7.5) vs 10-seed Miami
8:40pm: 3-seed Purdue (-3.5) vs 6-seed Texas
9:40pm: 1-seed Arizona (-9.5) vs 9-seed TCU

Interesting how Houston being the 5 seed is favored by 4.5 over the 4 seed Illinois

[UCH21377]

We love to knock Richmond and Golden but they have beat us for the last few years. I think this is going to be a very tight game for PC, and could go either way.

[ramster]

We love to knock Richmond and Golden but they have beat us for the last few years. I think this is going to be a very tight game for PC, and could go either way.

Some here have never liked Golden.

Here are the 6 games Golden has played vs URI in his 5 year career at Richmond. Richmond has won the last 4.

Golden has reduced his turnovers since his 1st two years and improved his FG% his last 3 years.

He is good for about 16 ppg and 9 rebounds per game.


Jan 25, 2022: Richmond won 70-63
Golden 26 min, 15P / 9R, 3 assists, 1 TO, 6-12 FG, 2-4 3FG, 1-1 FT

Mar 10, 2022: Richmond won 64-59
Golden 28 min, 19P / 3R, 1 assist, 2 TO, 6-12 FG, 7-10 FT

Jan 6, 2021: Richmond won 80-73
Golden 34 min, 17P / 9R, 5 assists, 0 TO, 8-15 FG, 1-2 FT

Jan 5, 2020: Richmond won 69-61
Golden 27 min, 10P / 9R, 5 assists, 2 TO, 5-16 FG, 0-1 FT

Jan 9, 2019: URI won 78-67
Golden 37 min, 17P / 8R, 6 assists, 4 TO, 8-13 FG, 1-5 FT

Feb 13, 2018: URI won 85-67
Golden 35 min, 16P / 7R, 1 assists, 8 TO, 6-16 FG, 4-4 FT

[Rhody15]

We love to knock Richmond and Golden but they have beat us for the last few years. I think this is going to be a very tight game for PC, and could go either way.

They’re kind of, in my mind, in the same situation.

Richmond has been so hot, and we’re kind of waiting for them to come back to earth.

PC has gotten every break and everything go their way, and we’re waiting for the law of averages to come into play.

Go Spiders.

[bigappleram]

I think Richmond’s luck runs out today. PC should be too physical for them. Iowa is more of a finesse team and was a much better matchup. PC wears em down and eventually comes out on top IMO.

If they do they will have gone through the juggernaut of SDSU and the 6th place finisher in the A10. Doesn’t get much easier on paper.

[Billyboy78]

LET'S GO SPIDERS!!!.......Soooo many reasons to root for Richmond today.

[TruePoint]

I think Richmond’s luck runs out today. PC should be too physical for them. Iowa is more of a finesse team and was a much better matchup. PC wears em down and eventually comes out on top IMO.

If they do they will have gone through the juggernaut of SDSU and the 6th place finisher in the A10. Doesn’t get much easier on paper.

Agree. PC’s physicality and athleticism will be too much.

[reef]

Baylor on upset alert trail 56-38 to unc wow

[steviep123]

Ref ball taking over.... Baylor clawing back in after a F2 foul disqualifying Manek from the game, then a "double foul" that should have gone against Baylor and be an F1. While Manek's foul was def a foul, I think more of a F1 - between a regular foul and an F2. But it was an elbow to the face, so I'm kind of torn and don't know the rules enough. Momentum changer.

Now, they changed it to a T on Bacot so 2 fouls on the play for a total of 4? I feel Souchan (sp?) is an instigator. Ridiculous. Lead down 14.

[URI_05]

I hate UNC but they're getting worked over by the Refs. Incredible.

[TruePoint]

Do all fan bases talk about the refs this much? Seems like every game that’s on there is very little commentary about the basketball and a lot of the refs, particularly who they are screwing over.

[RIrugger01]

I hate UNC but they're getting worked over by the Refs. Incredible.

I’m fine with it. UNC and Duke have been getting all the calls for years

[URI_05]

Do all fan bases talk about the refs this much? Seems like every game that’s on there is very little commentary about the basketball and a lot of the refs, particularly who they are screwing over.

I don't usually but this one is egregious.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

So let's recap:
North Carolina has
-- a copy of our mascot
-- a color similar to ours
-- a fight song that sounds the same
-- and now, a coach who can cough up a huge lead just like ours could

[steviep123]

[DeanDome88]

I'm watching this North Carolina game and can't believe that I'm semi rooting for them. I'm so glad we have the shot clock now. I hated the four corners offense with a passion.

[steviep123]

As much as the refs have done all they could to help Baylor force ot, unc has done a lot to hurt themselves in the past minute up 6 in ot to keep Baylor in it.

[Obadiah]

Happy to see Baylor lose though I don't usually root for UNC. But those last minutes were unreal as the refs gave Baylor all those breaks. Make no mistake UNC did play awful in those closing minutes and that big UNC dude missing three of four FT's was the only reason the game went into OT.

[reef]

Seemed like UNC was playing not to lose at the end but ended up getting the win

[Rhody15]

Happy to see Baylor lose though I don't usually root for UNC. But those last minutes were unreal as the refs gave Baylor all those breaks. Make no mistake UNC did play awful in those closing minutes and that big UNC dude missing three of four FT's was the only reason the game went into OT.

UNC got a clear break at 2:02 left in OT when the ball clearly went off a UNC player but they kept possession, and Baylor was fouled shooting a 3 with a few seconds left.

So Baylor did not all the breaks down the stretch.

[ramster]

Do all fan bases talk about the refs this much? Seems like every game that’s on there is very little commentary about the basketball and a lot of the refs, particularly who they are screwing over.

I don't usually but this one is egregious.

I don't see how you could be watching this UNC - Baylor game and not think the quality of the officiating would not be a topic for discussion. Are you out fishing on the lake?

[ramster]

Seemed like UNC was playing not to lose at the end but ended up getting the win

Amazing how they lost the 25 point lead like they did, the game was pretty much over. The Flagrant 2 foul made a big difference and helped to enable the comeback.

[RI_Bred]

Just a lot of blatantly missed calls, on purpose or not...

[ramster]

Just a lot of blatantly missed calls, on purpose or not...

I'm not even sure they favored one side or the other but overall this group of refs didn't have one of their better games. It happens.