Matt Keebler wrote: ↑2 years ago
I would love to see him come here but why wouldn’t he take a P5 job with far more resources and deeper pockets? I don’t mean to be pessimistic, I just don’t think it’s realistic. He would be regressing to a situation behind what he was in at Dayton.
Matt Keebler: Archie Miller isn’t a realistic candidate for Rhody
Jon Rothstein, national reporter and insider: Archie Miller is a serious candidate for Rhody.
rhodysurf wrote: ↑2 years ago
I don’t even care if we are a stepping stone at this point, let’s gooooooooo
We are always going to be a stepping stone. I came to that realization finally with Hurley. I guess the good news is it means we probably would have made the tourney if a coach left us for a bigger school
Gunboat wrote: ↑2 years ago
If any amount earned by Archie reduces the amount Indiana owes him dollar for dollar, maybe he is willing to sign with URI on the cheap. It makes no difference if URI is paying him $500k or $2 million, he’s still making the same $3 million ( or whatever the buyout is) at the end of the day. Archie could ask instead that URI put the money towards program enhancements. It’s a win-win for everybody except IU.
Matt Keebler wrote: ↑2 years ago
I would love to see him come here but why wouldn’t he take a P5 job with far more resources and deeper pockets? I don’t mean to be pessimistic, I just don’t think it’s realistic. He would be regressing to a situation behind what he was in at Dayton.
That's assuming the P5 jobs are reaching out.
Really good point Stevie , maybe schools like Florida LSU Maryland Kansas St etc … are targeting others or want to wait , Archie may not be a slam dunk for them like he would be for us so makes sense we go after him early
rhodysurf wrote: ↑2 years ago
I don’t even care if we are a stepping stone at this point, let’s gooooooooo
We are always going to be a stepping stone. I came to that realization finally with Hurley. I guess the good news is it means we probably would have made the tourney if a coach left us for a bigger school
We can be a perpetual stepping stone and still be a consistent top 4 A10 team if the right support and infrastructure is in place so that when the next coach moves up, we can both attract a great replacement and they tools for success will be in place. That said, we don't necessarily have to be a stepping stone - go back to 1997 when for some reason we inexplicably never signed Al Skinner's next contract and he was lured away by BC. Now we did get Harrick who lead Al's team to an eyelash of a Final Four, but if we sign that contract, he still gets to the NCAAs in 1998, then might take a step back, but we never steep to the lows of Jerry D and are probably more consistent over the next 12 years or whenever Al would decided to retire (though who knows if we have the Ryan Center - though I think Al Skinner was advocating for it before JH was).
Of course that's all speculation because none of this happened. But the point is if we are willing to put the funds, then we won't necessarily be a stepping stone and/or it won't matter if we are.
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I don’t have the problem being a stepping stone means Archie will have led us back to prominence and the ncaas before he goes P5
If that does happen we need to get his replacement right next time can’t miss like we did on Cox
reef wrote: ↑2 years ago
Let’s hopefully get this done real quick before other jobs like Xavier become open , be such a let down now if we don’t get our guy after all the reports out there
I’m not an Archie Miller guy and shake my head yes when people list the strikes against him. With that said, Miller should get URI above where we have been recently and could mean we accomplish more with him. I wonder if he learned anything from his failure that would increase the likelihood of success. If he comes here it will be good and instantly change the mood. He’s not a magician though.
Not sure the big jobs ppl are throwing around here are in play for Miller. His profile is elevated on this board more than it is in the general cbb world.
reef wrote: ↑2 years ago
I don’t have the problem being a stepping stone means Archie will have led us back to prominence and the ncaas before he goes P5
If that does happen we need to get his replacement right next time can’t miss like we did on Cox
I just want to break the cycle:
Kraft retires, fall to obscurity. Penders brings us back. Goes to Texas, Takes Skinner a few years to get going. Harrick brings Skinner's players to the Elite 8 and almost to the final 4 then an A10 championship completing probably the best 4 year run in Rhody history or at least since the Keaney years. Jerry D error, then the "safe" Baron hire. Hurley brings us back, then leaves and the next hire Cox slides us back. I want to break the cycle either by having the next coach be here and highly successful over the next 15-20 years or we're still a stepping stone, but a turn key program where the next coach steps in and keeps it going (or betters the prior coach).
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reef wrote: ↑2 years ago
I don’t have the problem being a stepping stone means Archie will have led us back to prominence and the ncaas before he goes P5
If that does happen we need to get his replacement right next time can’t miss like we did on Cox
I just want to break the cycle:
Kraft retires, fall to obscurity. Penders brings us back. Goes to Texas, Takes Skinner a few years to get going. Harrick brings Skinner's players to the Elite 8 and almost to the final 4 then an A10 championship completing probably the best 4 year run in Rhody history or at least since the Keaney years. Jerry D error, then the "safe" Baron hire. Hurley brings us back, then leaves and the next hire Cox slides us back. I want to break the cycle either by having the next coach be here and highly successful over the next 15-20 years or we're still a stepping stone, but a turn key program where the next coach steps in and keeps it going (or betters the prior coach).
The key is the investment. An Archie Hire would be a break from that tradition and start a new cycle where we actually commit and invest in basketball.
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rhodysurf wrote: ↑2 years ago
I don’t even care if we are a stepping stone at this point, let’s gooooooooo
This wouldn't have been a problem 4 years ago if we had better infrastructure in place that would have either helped make Cox better by a better assistant pool, etc and/or if we hired a splash that was available at the time. This won't be a problem in 4-6 years from now if Archie leaves for another plumb job and we have the infrastructure in place to keep the momentum going instead of letting it die on the vine.
Disagree strongly. You could have given Cox the same facilities and budgets as Kentucky, and it would still have been Cox calling the CoxTO(tm)s, Cox taking Jeff Dowtin off the ball, Cox letting the twins walk it up and jack up threes.
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And don't forget Archie was not a total failure at Indiana. They would have been in the 2020 tournament if not for covid. Just needed more time to get it rolling and they weren't patient enough, because there's no doubt he can coach. We all saw it. We saw how well those Dayton teams were coached.
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years ago
And don't forget Archie was not a total failure at Indiana. They would have been in the 2020 tournament if not for covid. Just needed more time to get it rolling and they weren't patient enough, because there's no doubt he can coach. We all saw it. We saw how well those Dayton teams were coached.
That’s true and it’s just not easy to win @ IU , the Big 10 has been the best overall conference in the past 5 years and he had them competitive
Iggy1979 wrote: ↑2 years ago
All I can say is it seems legit based on the the number of national writers posting it. URI has the most to gain so I'd say the leak is coming from their side, maybe hoping it would make it harder for Archie to change his mind.
Dan is talking highly of URI, the state and the job to media in Buffalo and I'm guessing he told Archie the same things.
I'm hearing press conference early in week as to not get overshadowed by games.
Don’t discount the impact of PCs magical season on our coaching search. It put pressure on us. It showed a new President how big hoops can be in the state and the media attention a winning program brings a school.
bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago
Don’t discount the impact of PCs magical season on our coaching search. It put pressure on us. It showed a new President how big hoops can be in the state and the media attention a winning program brings a school.
bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago
Don’t discount the impact of PCs magical season on our coaching search. It put pressure on us. It showed a new President how big hoops can be in the state and the media attention a winning program brings a school.
Those are GREAT points. Right now we've taken a back seat not only to PC but Bryant too for f*cks sake. It's time to get relevant again!
If Coach Miller ends up here what a job by Thor. He truly is such a positive, passionate and tremendous representative of our Great Institution. Special thanks to the Boosters who have obviously stepped up big time. The role of our President who seems to be outstanding for his support to Athletics. I would also like to thank Coach Hurley who I'm sure conversed with Archie and spoke highly of us. If this happens its a game changer. The program enhancements and fiscal commitment will now make us true players in the A-10. Wow!
"At Rhode Island, Miller will replace David Cox". Interesting language there. Sounds a bit presumptive.
I also found the word choice there interesting. “Miller would replace David Cox” seems more appropriate at this point. Sounds as close to a done deal as it can be.
