Mitchells, Berry, Walker, Ayo-Faleye, Betrand in 2022 portal / transferring
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I’m trying to imagine the Mitchells playing for Frank Martin.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
let them all go if they want.
I've seen enough of their collective 'compete' and 'quit' levels this year. I'm good with this bunch.
if we're in a full rebuild mode, I don't want to rebuild with these parts and pieces.
I've seen enough of their collective 'compete' and 'quit' levels this year. I'm good with this bunch.
if we're in a full rebuild mode, I don't want to rebuild with these parts and pieces.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
Good time to find RodfromCranston’s posts on Penders and how he took Brendan Malone’s players and won. You never know what a different coaching philosophy and an extra year of maturity for the players can do.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
Did the Mitchell’s enter the portal or is this just speculation?
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Goodbye and best of luck to all of them!
Maybe with a clean slate we can beat Fordham again!
Maybe with a clean slate we can beat Fordham again!
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This is the current landscape of college basketball with all the recent transfer changes. Players are basically paid mercenaries with no real school loyalty whose location may change year to year. It is almost today akin to the professional leagues with players always coming and going with constant roster turnover. It should however also be noted that this is affecting fan engagement. While fans may continue to be loyal to their school, that is not so much the case with players these days. It is getting more difficult to develop attachments to players when their stay is so short. The emotional bond of fans toward players is diminishing. All of this is playing out right here in this thread. You have four players entering the portal just days after the departure of their coach. They are not even waiting to see who the new coach is and what his plans are. On the fan side, you have many posters here showing little emotion for players leaving (some appear pleased) with many expressing the hope that better players will replace them. The college athletics of yesterday are sadly now dead forever. The Beach Boys tune BE TRUE TO YOUR SCHOOL is no longer applicable.
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In other words, players are finally being given the same opportunities as the adults in charge who have benefited from their talents for decades.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago This is the current landscape of college basketball with all the recent transfer changes. Players are basically paid mercenaries with no real school loyalty whose location may change year to year. It is almost today akin to the professional leagues with players always coming and going with constant roster turnover. It should however also be noted that this is affecting fan engagement. While fans may continue to be loyal to their school, that is not so much the case with players these days. It is getting more difficult to develop attachments to players when their stay is so short. The emotional bond of fans toward players is diminishing. All of this is playing out right here in this thread. You have four players entering the portal just days after the departure of their coach. They are not even waiting to see who the new coach is and what his plans are. On the fan side, you have many posters here showing little emotion for players leaving (some appear pleased) with many expressing the hope that better players will replace them. The college athletics of yesterday are sadly now dead forever. The Beach Boys tune BE TRUE TO YOUR SCHOOL is no longer applicable.
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And in exchange for that, college players have basically become professional athletes and are being treated as such by fans.
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By some fans maybe, I wouldn't just assume that everyone feels the same way you do. I know I don't. But either way, it's a small price to pay in exchange for players finally being treated fairly.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
I mean, for us, this is enjoyment and entertainment. For the players, it's a job and it's work. When most coaches are making $500K+ a year, and most power conference coaches are making $1M+ a year, it kind of makes any argument about amateurism and team seem silly. If your buddy jumped from Workplace A to Workplace B, because the latter was a better situation for him, you wouldn't care.RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago This is the current landscape of college basketball with all the recent transfer changes. Players are basically paid mercenaries with no real school loyalty whose location may change year to year. It is almost today akin to the professional leagues with players always coming and going with constant roster turnover. It should however also be noted that this is affecting fan engagement. While fans may continue to be loyal to their school, that is not so much the case with players these days. It is getting more difficult to develop attachments to players when their stay is so short. The emotional bond of fans toward players is diminishing. All of this is playing out right here in this thread. You have four players entering the portal just days after the departure of their coach. They are not even waiting to see who the new coach is and what his plans are. On the fan side, you have many posters here showing little emotion for players leaving (some appear pleased) with many expressing the hope that better players will replace them. The college athletics of yesterday are sadly now dead forever. The Beach Boys tune BE TRUE TO YOUR SCHOOL is no longer applicable.
I also think that when it comes to this particular year, it's silly to ask for "loyalty" from players when their coach is fired. Yes, I think the program will be in a better place going forward because we've moved on from Cox. But ultimately, the players were mostly brought in by a person - David Cox. I think it's reasonable for them to want to leave because he's gone.
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Just speculation if the Mitchell twins stayed and URI hired Martin. I have no idea what’s going to happen. If the twins do stay they would benefit from a more disciplined coach.TrevlontRook3 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Did the Mitchell’s enter the portal or is this just speculation?
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fine and fine.
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How about if only one Mitchell stayed? Or are they joined at the hip?
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They wouldn't know who to pass to.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago How about if only one Mitchell stayed? Or are they joined at the hip?
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I think it would be hard for a third team to agree to take them both, unless they go down a level. Could be proven wrong.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
For convenience:bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years agoAnyone on Rhody twitter please start annihilating him. He’s a sitting duck.adam914 wrote: ↑2 years agoHaha yep, he is replying to all the transfer tweets telling the players it's the right move because Rhody is "dead". So odd after he claimed for years to just be a Rhody fan like the rest of us!!bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Our old friend DCRams on twitter encouraging Bassy to go in the portal. A true die hard move right there
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
It would be slightly amusing if the Mitchells were the *only* significant regulars who ended up staying.
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At this point anything is possible.SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago It would be slightly amusing if the Mitchells were the *only* significant regulars who ended up staying.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
Cox got them because he promised them PT and a long leash.
They might not get that many other places.
If they stay here, the new coach isn't going to promise them anything, however.
And that's the way it should be.
They might not get that many other places.
If they stay here, the new coach isn't going to promise them anything, however.
And that's the way it should be.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
There would be many mid-majors where they would get significant playing time.rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Cox got them because he promised them PT and a long leash.
They might not get that many other places.
If they stay here, the new coach isn't going to promise them anything, however.
And that's the way it should be.
Depending on the coaching hires, maybe the twins transfer home to GW.
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I don't care if any player stays or goes.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
Three things:URI2006_Andy wrote: ↑2 years ago Good time to find RodfromCranston’s posts on Penders and how he took Brendan Malone’s players and won. You never know what a different coaching philosophy and an extra year of maturity for the players can do.
First, it's a much different world than in 1986. Transferring was a much more complicated process back then.
Second, IIRC the fall semester had already started when Malone bolted URI to join Little Ricky with the Knicks. Tough to transfer mid-semester.
Third, if the players hated Malone as much as many in the athletic department did, they were probably thrilled to get a new coach.
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Ricky was still at Providence then. He left for the Knocks the following year.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑2 years agoThree things:URI2006_Andy wrote: ↑2 years ago Good time to find RodfromCranston’s posts on Penders and how he took Brendan Malone’s players and won. You never know what a different coaching philosophy and an extra year of maturity for the players can do.
First, it's a much different world than in 1986. Transferring was a much more complicated process back then.
Second, IIRC the fall semester had already started when Malone bolted URI to join Little Ricky with the Knicks. Tough to transfer mid-semester.
Third, if the players hated Malone as much as many in the athletic department did, they were probably thrilled to get a new coach.
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Yha but wasn’t it pretty much Malones team that Penders took to the Sweet 16.steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years agoRicky was still at Providence then. He left for the Knocks the following year.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑2 years agoThree things:URI2006_Andy wrote: ↑2 years ago Good time to find RodfromCranston’s posts on Penders and how he took Brendan Malone’s players and won. You never know what a different coaching philosophy and an extra year of maturity for the players can do.
First, it's a much different world than in 1986. Transferring was a much more complicated process back then.
Second, IIRC the fall semester had already started when Malone bolted URI to join Little Ricky with the Knicks. Tough to transfer mid-semester.
Third, if the players hated Malone as much as many in the athletic department did, they were probably thrilled to get a new coach.
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Thanks. I need to start looking stuff up.steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years agoRicky was still at Providence then. He left for the Knocks the following year.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑2 years agoThree things:URI2006_Andy wrote: ↑2 years ago Good time to find RodfromCranston’s posts on Penders and how he took Brendan Malone’s players and won. You never know what a different coaching philosophy and an extra year of maturity for the players can do.
First, it's a much different world than in 1986. Transferring was a much more complicated process back then.
Second, IIRC the fall semester had already started when Malone bolted URI to join Little Ricky with the Knicks. Tough to transfer mid-semester.
Third, if the players hated Malone as much as many in the athletic department did, they were probably thrilled to get a new coach.
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That’s right in 87 both PC and URI were good we made the NIT and lost to FSU in Penders first year
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That brings up a good question, how do the other players like playing with the twins?SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago It would be slightly amusing if the Mitchells were the *only* significant regulars who ended up staying.
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I will go for wild ass guess for maybe they announced to teammates, we are staying……therefore others hit the portal……?CaptainRon wrote: ↑2 years agoThat brings up a good question, how do the other players like playing with the twins?SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago It would be slightly amusing if the Mitchells were the *only* significant regulars who ended up staying.
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I want the twins back. They can succeed under the right system. We want to keep guys that can make an impact at this level. They definitely can.
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Yes, I also hope they stay.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago I want the twins back. They can succeed under the right system. We want to keep guys that can make an impact at this level. They definitely can.
Bottom line, we will be more successful next season with them on the team.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
It's one of those things that would probably only come up years after the fact, unless they all hate one another, which doesn't seem to be the case. It's not like guys are getting into arguments with one another constantly during timeouts, so I imagine the chemistry is good enough. (You also never hear about how great the chemistry is, or how much the guys like one another, on bad teams - only good teams - even though I imagine guys on shitty teams also manage to get along with each other.)CaptainRon wrote: ↑2 years agoThat brings up a good question, how do the other players like playing with the twins?SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago It would be slightly amusing if the Mitchells were the *only* significant regulars who ended up staying.
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Makes it a heck of a lot easier to be friends when you’re playing well, winning games and everyone knows their roles and takes care of business.
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
I think the twins think they're going to the NBA (lol). There has to be a reason they were announced as juniors all year instead of being announced as sophomores, whereas Ish Leggett was announced as a freshman.
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I agree that they are by far are most valuable players that could return, but for me I have a hard time rooting for them. I can’t think of any URI players over the years that I have had such a hard time pulling for. Not sure if it is the technicals, the undisciplined play, their mom’s involvement, etc. I guess I could live with either way on the TwinsJersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoYes, I also hope they stay.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago I want the twins back. They can succeed under the right system. We want to keep guys that can make an impact at this level. They definitely can.
Bottom line, we will be more successful next season with them on the team.
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I’d like to see them return also , the talent is there maybe the next coach can get them to excelsteveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago I want the twins back. They can succeed under the right system. We want to keep guys that can make an impact at this level. They definitely can.
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No, Archie isn't here yet, but it got me thinking. Who now stays because of Archie? Which players would Archie want to keep? Top priority for Archie regarding the roster is a really good point guard who can come in and start right away. I'm guessing that would be a transfer.
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Not only that, but we also need a couple of knock-down three-point shooters.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago No, Archie isn't here yet, but it got me thinking. Who now stays because of Archie? Which players would Archie want to keep? Top priority for Archie regarding the roster is a really good point guard who can come in and start right away. I'm guessing that would be a transfer.
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Who could play for Archie? Not sure the twins could keep up at the pace he likes to play.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago No, Archie isn't here yet, but it got me thinking. Who now stays because of Archie? Which players would Archie want to keep? Top priority for Archie regarding the roster is a really good point guard who can come in and start right away. I'm guessing that would be a transfer.
Martin yes. Walker yes. Ish yes.
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Read Archie’s wiki page it talks about his offensive and defensive styles good stuff
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
Leggett was a disaster on the FB this year.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoWho could play for Archie? Not sure the twins could keep up at the pace he likes to play.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago No, Archie isn't here yet, but it got me thinking. Who now stays because of Archie? Which players would Archie want to keep? Top priority for Archie regarding the roster is a really good point guard who can come in and start right away. I'm guessing that would be a transfer.
Martin yes. Walker yes. Ish yes.
Fast paced. Not a lot of half court and a lot of man.
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I’m jumping a million miles ahead here, but I would be very interested in watching an Archie Miller-coached Antwan Walker.
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Walker with Archie? Think Pollard or Pierre?
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How many of these transfers would want back in if Archie is the coach?
How many of them would Archie want?
How many of them would Archie want?
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
From a coaching perspective, every single one of these players should want back in, they'll be receiving better coaching from Archie than they did from Cox.
From a program perspective, I could see why Malik and Walker might want to move on. If you can latch on somewhere good for one year and maybe make it in to the tournament that would probably be better than what we can offer in 2022-23 as a program. Leggett and Berry, it would hard to see either of them being in a better program for the rest of their career than an Archie run A10 program
From a program perspective, I could see why Malik and Walker might want to move on. If you can latch on somewhere good for one year and maybe make it in to the tournament that would probably be better than what we can offer in 2022-23 as a program. Leggett and Berry, it would hard to see either of them being in a better program for the rest of their career than an Archie run A10 program
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Re: Malik, Leggett, Berry, Walker exploring 2022 transfer market
I'm hoping we find out.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago How many of these transfers would want back in if Archie is the coach?
How many of them would Archie want?
But fully agree with RR02:
"From a program perspective, I could see why Malik and Walker might want to move on. If you can latch on somewhere good for one year and maybe make it in to the tournament that would probably be better than what we can offer in 2022-23 as a program."
Malik and Walker might not want to stick around for a rebuild and figure they would have a better chance at the NCAAs elsewhere.
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Most. Hardly any.LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago How many of these transfers would want back in if Archie is the coach?
How many of them would Archie want?
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