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I like Archie Miller, but if you take a quick look at his time in Indiana it was not very good. I think his experience and his past success at Dayton and coaching assistant at Arizona would be valuable. I am definitely in favor of Miller, but his time at Indiana to their fans is similar to how we few Cox at URI on a different level.
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If Richmond fires Mooney and they’re also interested in Archie, how do we convince him to come here instead of there?
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Many on this board are concerned about how quickly we can move on once the season ends- that we should not lose out on whoever our first choice is because we waited too long and lost the candidate at the finish line. I agree!
I again, ask the question, what is there to lose by getting rid of Cox now, and getting a jump on the replacement process?
I again, ask the question, what is there to lose by getting rid of Cox now, and getting a jump on the replacement process?
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……It is only, what couple of weeks?…….in this time of heightened sensitivity of separating people from jobs, the University probably does not to be in a position of defending itself needlessly to respond to a claim that Cox was not given fair opportunity to see the job through the season ending…….I think this, stated much better, was previously posted……..McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago Many on this board are concerned about how quickly we can move on once the season ends- that we should not lose out on whoever our first choice is because we waited too long and lost the candidate at the finish line. I agree!
I again, ask the question, what is there to lose by getting rid of Cox now, and getting a jump on the replacement process?
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Wagner (19-3) lost to Fairleigh Dickinson (3-20) tonight @ FDU in OT. 1st place NEC Wagner was favored by 13.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoIt's not just you.RamStock wrote: ↑2 years agoIs it just me or do none of these guys sound exciting? I think coaching is important, but we need to get to the level where we have some type of recruiting presence whether it is the head coach or the staff. I think we need to go that Jim Harrick route with a coach we wouldn’t normally be able to get or probably Archie Miller.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years ago Bashir Mason, Wagner: Mason was one of the hottest coaches in the country early in his tenure at Wagner, but then went through a couple of down seasons -- before bouncing back with a 13-5 NEC record last season and a 13-1 campaign this season. Despite being in charge of the Seahawks for 10 seasons, he's still only 38 years old.
James Jones, Yale: All Jones does is win, even if he's rarely linked to bigger jobs -- with the exception of St. John's a few years back. But Yale has a half-game lead on Princeton in the Ivy standings with two games remaining. If the Bulldogs win their final two games, it will be Jones' fifth conference title in the past seven Ivy seasons and potentially their fourth NCAA tournament appearance over that stretch.
John Becker, Vermont: At some point, Becker has to get a bigger job, right? He's been linked with jobs for years, given his outrageous levels of success with the Catamounts. Becker has won at least a share of six straight regular-season titles in the America East and has also won four conference tournaments during his tenure.
Jared Grasso, Bryant: After developing a reputation as a terrific recruiter during his time as an assistant coach under Tim Cluess at Iona, Grasso struggled for a couple seasons as the head coach at Bryant. But he's found his footing and has the Bulldogs on Wagner's heels in the NEC. He's recruiting transfers at a high level and is well-connected in the Northeast.
Others who could move: Casey Alexander, Belmont; Matt Langel, Colgate; Darian DeVries, Drake; Chris Jans, New Mexico State; Dustin Kerns, Appalachian State; Dana Ford, Missouri State; Ritchie McKay, Liberty; Preston Spradlin, Morehead State; Robert Jones, Norfolk State; Austin Claunch, Nicholls
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I know a lot of IU fans through work and this statement is very true. I was really excited for them when they hired Archie because i thought it made sense and would work out.RamStock wrote: ↑2 years ago I like Archie Miller, but if you take a quick look at his time in Indiana it was not very good. I think his experience and his past success at Dayton and coaching assistant at Arizona would be valuable. I am definitely in favor of Miller, but his time at Indiana to their fans is similar to how we few Cox at URI on a different level.
I’ve always liked Archie and would be happy with him on board. Let’s hope they get it done…either way we need a change! I’d take just about anyone.
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OK, let me ask again in another way: Hurley recommended Cox. How's that working out?Shinze88 wrote: ↑2 years agoI wonder if Dan would advocate for Kimani to come here or at least have interest. I'd hope that Dan's experience here would at least give us a chance to get him before potential P5 offers. His demeanor over the last 5 minutes of the UConn/Nova game was impressive to watch.
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He would. Dan wants to see both URI and Kimani succeed.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑2 years agoOK, let me ask again in another way: Hurley recommended Cox. How's that working out?Shinze88 wrote: ↑2 years agoI wonder if Dan would advocate for Kimani to come here or at least have interest. I'd hope that Dan's experience here would at least give us a chance to get him before potential P5 offers. His demeanor over the last 5 minutes of the UConn/Nova game was impressive to watch.
Cox was a safe, defensible, and good coach at the time.
If URI invested properly in their program they could’ve just paid Cox a proper associate head coach salary instead of needing to attach a buyout to his contract to get him to stick around on Hurley’s staff.
We had to hire Cox because of the buyout. Or we could’ve hired Pitino but our former President didn’t like him.
Kimani would be another splash hire - certainly not as close of a sure thing as Archie, but he’s someone who is looked at as able to take over a P5 program. Cox was never seen that way on a national scale.
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Bobby and Bashir have had success. Dave was in a bad basketball place before getting hired at URI and was able to reclaim his career when Dan took a chance on him. I know people tend to get remembered by the last thing they’ve done. Dave’s success as a URI assistant wasn’t a sure thing, but he excelled. Dave falls into the solid dude category, Kimani is a mf star.
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section(105) wrote: ↑2 years ago……It is only, what couple of weeks?…….in this time of heightened sensitivity of separating people from jobs, the University probably does not to be in a position of defending itself needlessly to respond to a claim that Cox was not given fair opportunity to see the job through the season ending…….I think this, stated much better, was previously posted……..McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago[pre][/pre]Many on this board are concerned about how quickly we can move on once the season ends- that we should not lose out on whoever our first choice is because we waited too long and lost the candidate at the finish line. I agree!
I again, ask the question, what is there to lose by getting rid of Cox now, and getting a jump on the replacement process?
A thought- if firing him now could "needlessly 'respond to a claim that Cox was not given fair opportunity to see the job through the season ending" then the same logic could be used to "force" URI to honor the entire length of the contract and Cox would be coach next year.
No, you ACT in an appropriate manner that is in your best interest, not in a manner that is overly concerned about what others might say.
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…….well fair enough……I would say by waiting two weeksish is in the best interests of URI…….
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I know a lot of Rhody fans are kind of basketball-bored and just want something to happen, but two weeks is not a long time, especially when a lot of your potential candidates are either not in a time crunch or still working.
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Nothing to stop Thorr from gathering info on candidates. The process has started.
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Nothing at all…
Schools are always reaching out to agents/reps, who know when their clients want to hear about their options,
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Its pretty simple, getting rid of Cox now would not give them a jump on the replacement process, so there is no point.McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago Many on this board are concerned about how quickly we can move on once the season ends- that we should not lose out on whoever our first choice is because we waited too long and lost the candidate at the finish line. I agree!
I again, ask the question, what is there to lose by getting rid of Cox now, and getting a jump on the replacement process?
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Exactly, the next few weeks will go fast enough. Nothing to be gained by doing something now.adam914 wrote: ↑2 years agoIts pretty simple, getting rid of Cox now would not give them a jump on the replacement process, so there is no point.McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago Many on this board are concerned about how quickly we can move on once the season ends- that we should not lose out on whoever our first choice is because we waited too long and lost the candidate at the finish line. I agree!
I again, ask the question, what is there to lose by getting rid of Cox now, and getting a jump on the replacement process?
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Like most other programs with impending coaching vacancies - the searches are well underway.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoExactly, the next few weeks will go fast enough. Nothing to be gained by doing something now.adam914 wrote: ↑2 years agoIts pretty simple, getting rid of Cox now would not give them a jump on the replacement process, so there is no point.McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago Many on this board are concerned about how quickly we can move on once the season ends- that we should not lose out on whoever our first choice is because we waited too long and lost the candidate at the finish line. I agree!
I again, ask the question, what is there to lose by getting rid of Cox now, and getting a jump on the replacement process?
Conversations with agents, out of work coaches, boosters, etc all happen behind the scenes. We are no different.
This idea that we need an "opening" to start a search is naive.
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Yes Blue Man I am well aware of how these things work.
When I said nothing gained by doing something now, I was referring to the decision regarding Cox.
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I'd be willing to bet that decision has been made privately. Publicly stating it offers no advantages except for message board and twitter followers.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoYes Blue Man I am well aware of how these things work.
When I said nothing gained by doing something now, I was referring to the decision regarding Cox.
Every coach that's a possible candidate has been contacted via agent across the country.
It's sad that March Madness for us will be deciphering cryptic tweets and running down conspiracy theories (I chose mine). But it's more excitement than we've had in years!!
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It's going to be a very interesting off season.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoI'd be willing to bet that decision has been made privately. Publicly stating it offers no advantages except for message board and twitter followers.
Every coach that's a possible candidate has been contacted via agent across the country.
It's sad that March Madness for us will be deciphering cryptic tweets and running down conspiracy theories (I chose mine). But it's more excitement than we've had in years!!
Not just about the HC, but discussions regarding the staff.
Also, who will be left from this roster, and putting together a new one for 22-23.
What recruits will still be available and finding impact players in the portal.
It all starts with getting the right HC, Thorr can't miss on this one.
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In fact, we were on the other side of this process just 4 years ago.
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What if they win the A10 tournament? Certainly not likely but not impossible.
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Thats the only way he saves his job and the chances they can do it from the play in game are like 0.0001%scine20 wrote: ↑2 years agoWhat if they win the A10 tournament? Certainly not likely but not impossible.
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zero point zeroscine20 wrote: ↑2 years agoWhat if they win the A10 tournament? Certainly not likely but not impossible.
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Honestly, I'm starting to believe even that would be far fetched...the keeping his job part.
Would anyone be excited about this program next year after a first round NCAA thrashing? Would it boost ticket sales?
The A-10 isn't some murderers row of good teams. This is a potential 1 bid league.
And we're not starved for an NCAA game. We've had 4 in back to back years 4 years ago. The standards have changed. The bar was raised.
Look at Georgetown right now. Would their fans have traded the Big East title and first round embarrassment last year, and now potential winless conference season, year long clown show and total rebuild? At least they have the money for a buyout. URI? Another extension? You might damn this program to irrelevance in ways never thought of before.
I agreed that going into this year NCAA appearance should equal extension - but I don't know how anyone can look at what's happening and say "sign us up for more."
The goal is to be a good program. To be competing for conference championships and at-large bids year in/year out. Doesn't mean making it every year, but being competitive, having fun caring about basketball, having a chance to dance if you get a few bounces. Maybe every few years you're making a 2nd weekend run into the tourney.
I will not survive another year like this as a fan. You've effectively killed off the fanbase. Even with an NCAA appearance this year, it'll feel hollow and I don't think anyone comes back after December when we've flushed another season down the toilet.
Overreactions in either direction are bad. You don't go firing a guy for a 4-5 game losing streak. You also don't go extending a guy for a 4-5 game winning streak.
It's the total body of work.
This program deserves better. We deserve to be a program. Not a clown show that gets lucky.
Would anyone be excited about this program next year after a first round NCAA thrashing? Would it boost ticket sales?
The A-10 isn't some murderers row of good teams. This is a potential 1 bid league.
And we're not starved for an NCAA game. We've had 4 in back to back years 4 years ago. The standards have changed. The bar was raised.
Look at Georgetown right now. Would their fans have traded the Big East title and first round embarrassment last year, and now potential winless conference season, year long clown show and total rebuild? At least they have the money for a buyout. URI? Another extension? You might damn this program to irrelevance in ways never thought of before.
I agreed that going into this year NCAA appearance should equal extension - but I don't know how anyone can look at what's happening and say "sign us up for more."
The goal is to be a good program. To be competing for conference championships and at-large bids year in/year out. Doesn't mean making it every year, but being competitive, having fun caring about basketball, having a chance to dance if you get a few bounces. Maybe every few years you're making a 2nd weekend run into the tourney.
I will not survive another year like this as a fan. You've effectively killed off the fanbase. Even with an NCAA appearance this year, it'll feel hollow and I don't think anyone comes back after December when we've flushed another season down the toilet.
Overreactions in either direction are bad. You don't go firing a guy for a 4-5 game losing streak. You also don't go extending a guy for a 4-5 game winning streak.
It's the total body of work.
This program deserves better. We deserve to be a program. Not a clown show that gets lucky.
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I guess based on that single result, he's not getting the URI job.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoWagner (19-3) lost to Fairleigh Dickinson (3-20) tonight @ FDU in OT. 1st place NEC Wagner was favored by 13.theblueram wrote: ↑2 years agoIt's not just you.RamStock wrote: ↑2 years ago
Is it just me or do none of these guys sound exciting? I think coaching is important, but we need to get to the level where we have some type of recruiting presence whether it is the head coach or the staff. I think we need to go that Jim Harrick route with a coach we wouldn’t normally be able to get or probably Archie Miller.
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Wagner NET 116 loses to FDU NET 350 - not on that single result but this late in the season to have a horrendous loss like that? Not good at all. You are supposed to be peaking for the NEC Conference Tournament AQ - this is the opposite direction.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑2 years agoI guess based on that single result, he's not getting the URI job.
9 years. No NCAA Bid in the lowly NEC. Maybe he gets the AQ this year but losing like that to the 350th ranked team. I'd want to see what happens in the NEC Tournament.
Mason took over a program in good shape from Dan Hurley for the 2012 - 2013 season. He has had 3 1st place NEC Conference Finishes but no AQ's
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I know there's a lot of talk about Archie. And he would be a great hire. But the person we look to for help in funding is Tom Ryan. Who wanted Rick Pitino. Dooley, so it's been said, didn't want that. So what's to say this time around, Tom doesn't get his wish? And he brings Rick Pitino to Kingston?
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I don't discount that. But is he really going to throw $10M to buyout rick and then put up the rest?theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago I know there's a lot of talk about Archie. And he would be a great hire. But the person we look to for help in funding is Tom Ryan. Who wanted Rick Pitino. Dooley, so it's been said, didn't want that. So what's to say this time around, Tom doesn't get his wish? And he brings Rick Pitino to Kingston?
Honestly Richard Pitino is a more likely (albeit less exciting) name.
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Is it really a $10M buyout? But we are all just speculating here so.
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Sorry $5M now. It was $10m last year.
We legit couldn't get the ashtray money to start the practice facility. Just would be odd to do for a coach who has 4 years left tops.
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I wouldn't be so quick to define a coach's resume by one bad OT loss.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoWagner NET 116 loses to FDU NET 350 - not on that single result but this late in the season to have a horrendous loss like that? Not good at all. You are supposed to be peaking for the NEC Conference Tournament AQ - this is the opposite direction.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑2 years agoI guess based on that single result, he's not getting the URI job.
9 years. No NCAA Bid in the lowly NEC. Maybe he gets the AQ this year but losing like that to the 350th ranked team. I'd want to see what happens in the NEC Tournament.
Mason took over a program in good shape from Dan Hurley for the 2012 - 2013 season. He has had 3 1st place NEC Conference Finishes but no AQ's
Not defending him but they were also without one of their top players Elijah Ford (2nd leading scorer) who was recently lost for the season with a knee injury. Last year he was 1st team NEC and the most efficient scorer 18 pts/59.5% (FG).
Granted Bashir Masion is not my first choice, but I feel he is one of the top young coaches and still only 38.
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I’m not. But 9 years without an NCAA Bid in the NEC?Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoI wouldn't be so quick to define a coach's resume by one bad OT loss.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoWagner NET 116 loses to FDU NET 350 - not on that single result but this late in the season to have a horrendous loss like that? Not good at all. You are supposed to be peaking for the NEC Conference Tournament AQ - this is the opposite direction.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑2 years ago
I guess based on that single result, he's not getting the URI job.
9 years. No NCAA Bid in the lowly NEC. Maybe he gets the AQ this year but losing like that to the 350th ranked team. I'd want to see what happens in the NEC Tournament.
Mason took over a program in good shape from Dan Hurley for the 2012 - 2013 season. He has had 3 1st place NEC Conference Finishes but no AQ's
Not defending him but they were also without one of their top players Elijah Ford (2nd leading scorer) who was recently lost for the season with a knee injury. Last year he was 1st team NEC and the most efficient scorer 18 pts/59.5% (FG).
Granted Bashir Masion is not my first choice, but I feel he is one of the top young coaches and still only 38.
Then you lose to the #350 ranked team closing in on the NEC Tournament?
What makes you feel he is one of the Top young coaches?
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I understand he's widely regarded as one - but agreed that his resume isn't exactly screaming "hire me."ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoI’m not. But 9 years without an NCAA Bid in the NEC?Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoI wouldn't be so quick to define a coach's resume by one bad OT loss.ramster wrote: ↑2 years ago
Wagner NET 116 loses to FDU NET 350 - not on that single result but this late in the season to have a horrendous loss like that? Not good at all. You are supposed to be peaking for the NEC Conference Tournament AQ - this is the opposite direction.
9 years. No NCAA Bid in the lowly NEC. Maybe he gets the AQ this year but losing like that to the 350th ranked team. I'd want to see what happens in the NEC Tournament.
Mason took over a program in good shape from Dan Hurley for the 2012 - 2013 season. He has had 3 1st place NEC Conference Finishes but no AQ's
Not defending him but they were also without one of their top players Elijah Ford (2nd leading scorer) who was recently lost for the season with a knee injury. Last year he was 1st team NEC and the most efficient scorer 18 pts/59.5% (FG).
Granted Bashir Masion is not my first choice, but I feel he is one of the top young coaches and still only 38.
Then you lose to the #350 ranked team closing in on the NEC Tournament?
What makes you feel he is one of the Top young coaches?
When your program is in a good to great situation, like when Hurley left, you can take a chance and make the "safe" hire. Like Dave Cox or any of the other regional mid-major HC's mentioned.
When your program is in a bad place, like right now, you cannot take a chance. You have to be right.
The advantage of playing in the A-10, is that a big name or "splash" hire, can immediately rebuild your program. It's as close to a guarantee as you can get.
Their name alone will give you access to a talent pool you typically wouldn't see at this level. That can win you games and turn you around regardless of the actual X's and O's of the coach.
The buzz matters. Every coach is a salesman of their program. Hurley, etc. The great ones get it. You have to be putting your brand in the national press and media. You need to be on Jim Rome. You need to be tweeted about. You need eyeballs on your program.
Those eyeballs bring in recruits. Bring you access to tournaments. Bring you national TV games. Bring you big OOC matchups.
An Archie Miller hire at a lower program like URI forces us into the national conversation immediately.
We can't do safe anymore. THINK BIG. WE DO.
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Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoI understand he's widely regarded as one - but agreed that his resume isn't exactly screaming "hire me."ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoI’m not. But 9 years without an NCAA Bid in the NEC?Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
I wouldn't be so quick to define a coach's resume by one bad OT loss.
Not defending him but they were also without one of their top players Elijah Ford (2nd leading scorer) who was recently lost for the season with a knee injury. Last year he was 1st team NEC and the most efficient scorer 18 pts/59.5% (FG).
Granted Bashir Masion is not my first choice, but I feel he is one of the top young coaches and still only 38.
Then you lose to the #350 ranked team closing in on the NEC Tournament?
What makes you feel he is one of the Top young coaches?
When your program is in a good to great situation, like when Hurley left, you can take a chance and make the "safe" hire. Like Dave Cox or any of the other regional mid-major HC's mentioned.
When your program is in a bad place, like right now, you cannot take a chance. You have to be right.
The advantage of playing in the A-10, is that a big name or "splash" hire, can immediately rebuild your program. It's as close to a guarantee as you can get.
Their name alone will give you access to a talent pool you typically wouldn't see at this level. That can win you games and turn you around regardless of the actual X's and O's of the coach.
The buzz matters. Every coach is a salesman of their program. Hurley, etc. The great ones get it. You have to be putting your brand in the national press and media. You need to be on Jim Rome. You need to be tweeted about. You need eyeballs on your program.
Those eyeballs bring in recruits. Bring you access to tournaments. Bring you national TV games. Bring you big OOC matchups.
An Archie Miller hire at a lower program like URI forces us into the national conversation immediately.
We can't do safe anymore. THINK BIG. WE DO.
I don't disagree and at this time I would prefer more of a splash hire, as I previously mentioned.
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I completely agree that the program is heading nowhere fast under Cox. But if they were to win the A10 tournament they’re not going to fire him. They’d extend him and make some excuse that he turned things around and the players were playing their best in March. It wouldn’t be what I’d want but that’s what I think would happen. The optics of firing a coach who won four or five straight games to get to an NCAA Tournament coupled with the prospect of finding a way to keep things for another year and not have to pay Cox not to coach would win out. IMO.
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Coaching at Wagner is not an easy road to the NCAAT, you must be hot and win their conference championship.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoI’m not. But 9 years without an NCAA Bid in the NEC?Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoI wouldn't be so quick to define a coach's resume by one bad OT loss.ramster wrote: ↑2 years ago
Wagner NET 116 loses to FDU NET 350 - not on that single result but this late in the season to have a horrendous loss like that? Not good at all. You are supposed to be peaking for the NEC Conference Tournament AQ - this is the opposite direction.
9 years. No NCAA Bid in the lowly NEC. Maybe he gets the AQ this year but losing like that to the 350th ranked team. I'd want to see what happens in the NEC Tournament.
Mason took over a program in good shape from Dan Hurley for the 2012 - 2013 season. He has had 3 1st place NEC Conference Finishes but no AQ's
Not defending him but they were also without one of their top players Elijah Ford (2nd leading scorer) who was recently lost for the season with a knee injury. Last year he was 1st team NEC and the most efficient scorer 18 pts/59.5% (FG).
Granted Bashir Masion is not my first choice, but I feel he is one of the top young coaches and still only 38.
Then you lose to the #350 ranked team closing in on the NEC Tournament?
What makes you feel he is one of the Top young coaches?
Remember he is still only 38
Success Under Coach Mason
Three-time NEC Regular Season Champions (2016, 2018, 2021)
Upset then ranked No. 18|16 and four-time NCAA Men's National Champions, UConn
Program's First-Ever Postseason Victory | 2016 NIT First Round: No. 8 Wagner 79, No. 1 St. Bonaventure 75
Coaching Honors & Awards
2020-21 Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach Of The Year
2020-21 Ben Jobe Award Finalist
2020-21 Hugh Durham Award Finalist
2017-18: Ben Jobe Award Finalist
2017-18: Hugh Durham Award Finalist
2017-18: National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) NCAA Division I District 18 Coach of the Year
2017-18: Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach of the Year
2015-16: Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach of the Year
2015-16: Finalist for the Ben Jobe Minority Coach of the Year Award
2012-13: Finalist for the Joe B. Hall National Coach of the Year Award
2012-13: Finalist for the Ben Jobe Minority Coach of the Year Award
https://wagnerathletics.com/sports/mens-basketball
Look he isn't among my top choices, but I prefer him over several other names mentioned including Grasso and Skerry.
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You have to get over the "if they win the A-10 tournament" thing. It's a non-starter man.scine20 wrote: ↑2 years ago I completely agree that the program is heading nowhere fast under Cox. But if they were to win the A10 tournament they’re not going to fire him. They’d extend him and make some excuse that he turned things around and the players were playing their best in March. It wouldn’t be what I’d want but that’s what I think would happen. The optics of firing a coach who won four or five straight games to get to an NCAA Tournament coupled with the prospect of finding a way to keep things for another year and not have to pay Cox not to coach would win out. IMO.
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Yeah and he ain't winning the A-10 titlescine20 wrote: ↑2 years ago I completely agree that the program is heading nowhere fast under Cox. But if they were to win the A10 tournament they’re not going to fire him. They’d extend him and make some excuse that he turned things around and the players were playing their best in March. It wouldn’t be what I’d want but that’s what I think would happen. The optics of firing a coach who won four or five straight games to get to an NCAA Tournament coupled with the prospect of finding a way to keep things for another year and not have to pay Cox not to coach would win out. IMO.
Maybe if we had guards with the ability to make a jump shot we would.
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Since his name has popped multiple times here I went back to his last 9 years as HC at Wagner since he took over for Hurley:Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoCoaching at Wagner is not an easy road to the NCAAT, you must be hot and win their conference championship.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoI’m not. But 9 years without an NCAA Bid in the NEC?Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
I wouldn't be so quick to define a coach's resume by one bad OT loss.
Not defending him but they were also without one of their top players Elijah Ford (2nd leading scorer) who was recently lost for the season with a knee injury. Last year he was 1st team NEC and the most efficient scorer 18 pts/59.5% (FG).
Granted Bashir Masion is not my first choice, but I feel he is one of the top young coaches and still only 38.
Then you lose to the #350 ranked team closing in on the NEC Tournament?
What makes you feel he is one of the Top young coaches?
Remember he is still only 38
Success Under Coach Mason
Three-time NEC Regular Season Champions (2016, 2018, 2021)
Upset then ranked No. 18|16 and four-time NCAA Men's National Champions, UConn
Program's First-Ever Postseason Victory | 2016 NIT First Round: No. 8 Wagner 79, No. 1 St. Bonaventure 75
Coaching Honors & Awards
2020-21 Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach Of The Year
2020-21 Ben Jobe Award Finalist
2020-21 Hugh Durham Award Finalist
2017-18: Ben Jobe Award Finalist
2017-18: Hugh Durham Award Finalist
2017-18: National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) NCAA Division I District 18 Coach of the Year
2017-18: Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach of the Year
2015-16: Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach of the Year
2015-16: Finalist for the Ben Jobe Minority Coach of the Year Award
2012-13: Finalist for the Joe B. Hall National Coach of the Year Award
2012-13: Finalist for the Ben Jobe Minority Coach of the Year Award
https://wagnerathletics.com/sports/mens-basketball
Look he isn't among my top choices, but I prefer him over several other names mentioned including Grasso and Skerry.
2012-13: 2-Wagner lost to 3-LIU: 82-94
2013-14: 2-Wagner lost to 4-Mt St Mary's: 72-77
2014-15: 7-Wagner lost to 2-Robert Morris 68-91
2015-16: 1-Wagner lost to 2-FDU 79-87 in Championship Game
2016-17: 3-Wagner lost to 4-St Francis 70-71
2017-18: 1-Wagner lost to 4-LIU 61-71 in Championship Game
2018-19: 7-Wagner lost to 2-FDU 46-84
2019-20: Did not Qualify finishing 5-13 in Conference
2020-21: 1-Wagner lost to 4 Mt St Mary's 60-66
- In Red are Conference Tournament Games Wagner lost and was eliminated by lower seeds than they were.
- 3 Times eliminated after finishing 1st in the Conference = #1 Seed
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I’d take Becker over Mason if given the choice between the two.
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Re: Head coach speculation for 2022-23
The poster said there’s a 0% chance he returns. And I pointed out that I think he would if they win the A10 tournament.RI_Bred wrote: ↑2 years agoYou have to get over the "if they win the A-10 tournament" thing. It's a non-starter man.scine20 wrote: ↑2 years ago I completely agree that the program is heading nowhere fast under Cox. But if they were to win the A10 tournament they’re not going to fire him. They’d extend him and make some excuse that he turned things around and the players were playing their best in March. It wouldn’t be what I’d want but that’s what I think would happen. The optics of firing a coach who won four or five straight games to get to an NCAA Tournament coupled with the prospect of finding a way to keep things for another year and not have to pay Cox not to coach would win out. IMO.
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Ramster, again I would put him higher than some mentioned but not on my short list.ramster wrote: ↑2 years agoSince his name has popped multiple times here I went back to his last 9 years as HC at Wagner since he took over for Hurley:Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoCoaching at Wagner is not an easy road to the NCAAT, you must be hot and win their conference championship.
Remember he is still only 38
Success Under Coach Mason
Three-time NEC Regular Season Champions (2016, 2018, 2021)
Upset then ranked No. 18|16 and four-time NCAA Men's National Champions, UConn
Program's First-Ever Postseason Victory | 2016 NIT First Round: No. 8 Wagner 79, No. 1 St. Bonaventure 75
Coaching Honors & Awards
2020-21 Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach Of The Year
2020-21 Ben Jobe Award Finalist
2020-21 Hugh Durham Award Finalist
2017-18: Ben Jobe Award Finalist
2017-18: Hugh Durham Award Finalist
2017-18: National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) NCAA Division I District 18 Coach of the Year
2017-18: Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach of the Year
2015-16: Jim Phelan Northeast Conference (NEC) Coach of the Year
2015-16: Finalist for the Ben Jobe Minority Coach of the Year Award
2012-13: Finalist for the Joe B. Hall National Coach of the Year Award
2012-13: Finalist for the Ben Jobe Minority Coach of the Year Award
https://wagnerathletics.com/sports/mens-basketball
Look he isn't among my top choices, but I prefer him over several other names mentioned including Grasso and Skerry.
2012-13: 2-Wagner lost to 3-LIU: 82-94
2013-14: 2-Wagner lost to 4-Mt St Mary's: 72-77
2014-15: 7-Wagner lost to 2-Robert Morris 68-91
2015-16: 1-Wagner lost to 2-FDU 79-87 in Championship Game
2016-17: 3-Wagner lost to 4-St Francis 70-71
2017-18: 1-Wagner lost to 4-LIU 61-71 in Championship Game
2018-19: 7-Wagner lost to 2-FDU 46-84
2019-20: Did not Qualify finishing 5-13 in Conference
2020-21: 1-Wagner lost to 4 Mt St Mary's 60-66
- In Red are Conference Tournament Games Wagner lost and was eliminated by lower seeds than they were.
I want a HC that overachieves in the Conference Tournament, not underachieves. I'm missing where he is an up and comer. 2 years ago DNQ as record was so bad and 3 years ago lost to FDU 84-46.
- 3 Times eliminated after finishing 1st in the Conference = #1 Seed
Actually, as I said before Dennis Gates would be my top choice for an up and comer.
The assistant level Kimani Young is high on the list.
John Becker will always be on the short list for many higher mid-majors.
Look I would love to have a HC that had success at our level or higher, who is either now available or will be.
Ramster don't dismiss Bashir as moving up at some time, he is still only 38 and very well respected in the coaching community.
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I would too, plus several others.
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Right now Archie miller is the only potential coaching candidate that excites me in any way . My fear is that otherwise any young less experienced candidate without a big name will find it very difficult to recruit at any higher level than cox because URI on its own is not a national draw for players .
I don't care how talented a coach is if he cannot recruit a higher level of player and a great young coach will find it very hard if he has no name . Look
at Lasalle who hired Jay Wright's Assistant from Villanova . He might be a great x and o coach but without the talent it is pretty meaningless . If URI
moves on from Cox and hires some up and coming coach without a name you can look forward to a few more seasons of mediocrity or worse . Let
me remind everyone that it took a coach with a pedigree name several seasons to turn things around . I am not aware of too many guys out there
who fit the bill . Archie Miller, Rick Pitino , any others similar ? Otherwise URI may not do any better than Cox as absurd as that may sound to you .
I don't care how talented a coach is if he cannot recruit a higher level of player and a great young coach will find it very hard if he has no name . Look
at Lasalle who hired Jay Wright's Assistant from Villanova . He might be a great x and o coach but without the talent it is pretty meaningless . If URI
moves on from Cox and hires some up and coming coach without a name you can look forward to a few more seasons of mediocrity or worse . Let
me remind everyone that it took a coach with a pedigree name several seasons to turn things around . I am not aware of too many guys out there
who fit the bill . Archie Miller, Rick Pitino , any others similar ? Otherwise URI may not do any better than Cox as absurd as that may sound to you .
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