2022 Coaching Carousel

[bigappleram]

Hard pass on Becker. I also think he’s imbedded at UVM and has no interest in leaving.

[Jersey77]

With Mack out at Louisville, Luke Murray will likely be looking for a job this summer as well. Not an endorsement for a hire as I don't think URI has an appetite for an assistant with no HC experience.

What, Luke is at UConn with DH.

[Rhody Sody]

John Becker?

He was one of the four finalists when we hired Cox, so I'm sure he would be looked at

Safe hire. Wouldn't hate it, but it wouldn't immediately get me running to celebrate either.

Wouldn’t hate Becker either. He wins every year. I agree with many comments that he isn’t a splash hire but he has succeeded at Vermont consistently . He is the right age where he might not leave either. From what i can tell, he has a team that enjoys playing for him and they play together. I would have him as one of the top realistic candidates.

Agree with most that i want HC experience when they replace DC at the end of the year.

[SmartyBarrett]

With Mack out at Louisville, Luke Murray will likely be looking for a job this summer as well. Not an endorsement for a hire as I don't think URI has an appetite for an assistant with no HC experience.

What, Luke is at UConn with DH.

My bad, saw an article saying otherwise... even mentioned him as a possible interim HC to finish out the year. Odd.

[Not Mike Powell]

Hear me out, but what if we brought in Jimmy Baron (2005-2009) to lead this program? It would obviously be a major challenge but who’s to say he couldn’t form an experienced staff of former HCs to help with running the program? Maybe bring in Rob McClanaghan for Player Development? Who wouldn’t be on board for that? He has 10 years of professional experience overseas and his approval rating would be 100% from Day 1. Question is, would he even want this job? If I’m Thorr, it’s worth a call to IMG Academy.

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

Hear me out, but what if we brought in Jimmy Baron (2005-2009) to lead this program? It would obviously be a major challenge but who’s to say he couldn’t form an experienced staff of former HCs to help with running the program? Maybe bring in Rob McClanaghan for Player Development? Who wouldn’t be on board for that? He has 10 years of professional experience overseas and his approval rating would be 100% from Day 1. Question is, would he even want this job? If I’m Thorr, it’s worth a call to IMG Academy.

You posted this nonsense in another thread. Find another wall to throw this at. It's not sticking here.

[Not Mike Powell]

Hear me out, but what if we brought in Jimmy Baron (2005-2009) to lead this program? It would obviously be a major challenge but who’s to say he couldn’t form an experienced staff of former HCs to help with running the program? Maybe bring in Rob McClanaghan for Player Development? Who wouldn’t be on board for that? He has 10 years of professional experience overseas and his approval rating would be 100% from Day 1. Question is, would he even want this job? If I’m Thorr, it’s worth a call to IMG Academy.

You posted this nonsense in another thread. Find another wall to throw this at. It's not sticking here.

Exactly what part of that is nonsense?

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

He was one of the four finalists when we hired Cox, so I'm sure he would be looked at

Safe hire. Wouldn't hate it, but it wouldn't immediately get me running to celebrate either.

Wouldn’t hate Becker either. He wins every year. I agree with many comments that he isn’t a splash hire but he has succeeded at Vermont consistently . He is the right age where he might not leave either. From what i can tell, he has a team that enjoys playing for him and they play together. I would have him as one of the top realistic candidates.

Agree with most that i want HC experience when they replace DC at the end of the year.

If the guy has a record of winning, you have to look at him. So if Becker is interested, he has to be legitimately considered. So too would King Rice.
Sorry, he's not splashy. But he has the resume and checks the boxes. I don't care if his name is Mr. Magoo. Coaches with NCAA rules issues/baggage (see Chris Mack) I would think are unlikely to get an interview. (Archie doesn't have that so he would be worth making a call to.)

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

Hear me out, but what if we brought in Jimmy Baron (2005-2009) to lead this program? It would obviously be a major challenge but who’s to say he couldn’t form an experienced staff of former HCs to help with running the program? Maybe bring in Rob McClanaghan for Player Development? Who wouldn’t be on board for that? He has 10 years of professional experience overseas and his approval rating would be 100% from Day 1. Question is, would he even want this job? If I’m Thorr, it’s worth a call to IMG Academy.

You posted this nonsense in another thread. Find another wall to throw this at. It's not sticking here.

Exactly what part of that is nonsense?

I've lost track which part...so maybe all of it.

[bigappleram]

Safe hire. Wouldn't hate it, but it wouldn't immediately get me running to celebrate either.

Wouldn’t hate Becker either. He wins every year. I agree with many comments that he isn’t a splash hire but he has succeeded at Vermont consistently . He is the right age where he might not leave either. From what i can tell, he has a team that enjoys playing for him and they play together. I would have him as one of the top realistic candidates.

Agree with most that i want HC experience when they replace DC at the end of the year.

If the guy has a record of winning, you have to look at him. So if Becker is interested, he has to be legitimately considered. So too would King Rice.
Sorry, he's not splashy. But he has the resume and checks the boxes. I don't care if his name is Mr. Magoo. Coaches with NCAA rules issues/baggage (see Chris Mack) I would think are unlikely to get an interview. (Archie doesn't have that so he would be worth making a call to.)

Agree on both but think Boals and Drew are better candidates.

[adam914]

Hear me out, but what if we brought in Jimmy Baron (2005-2009) to lead this program? It would obviously be a major challenge but who’s to say he couldn’t form an experienced staff of former HCs to help with running the program? Maybe bring in Rob McClanaghan for Player Development? Who wouldn’t be on board for that? He has 10 years of professional experience overseas and his approval rating would be 100% from Day 1. Question is, would he even want this job? If I’m Thorr, it’s worth a call to IMG Academy.

Experience matters to be the head guy leading a program. Jimmy has zero college coaching experience to start, but on top of that he has zero experience recruiting, as well as the million other things that go in to it. And who are these former head coaches willing to come be assistants for a guy who’s never coached before?

[section(105)]

Hard pass on Becker. I also think he’s imbedded at UVM and has no interest in leaving.

…….would love to say that about our next coach years down the road…….rare these days for a coach where the ego is in check and the total compensation package is attractive enough to stay……..but, like someone said here, would love to back to the days where our coach is being chased, meaning we had some success……..

[Rhody15]

Even it if has a 0.000000001% chance of happening, Chris Mack should be the first person called if Cox is fired. Archie second.

Absolute no brainer.

It literally cannot hurt to call and see if there's any shot.

[NYGFan_Section208]

What is the deal with Mack? Aside from he wasn't able to get it done at the highest level and got the boot/quit midyear? I've seen references here to "baggage" and I'm too lazy to research it, but is it more than that?

[Jersey77]

What is the deal with Mack? Aside from he wasn't able to get it done at the highest level and got the boot/quit midyear? I've seen references here to "baggage" and I'm too lazy to research it, but is it more than that?

He was suspended 6 games this summer for failure to follow school guidelines.
Also related to the extortion cases against former assistant Gaudio for threatening to release videos on NCAA violations.
Bottom line though, they didn't think he was successful enough and not trending toward their liking.

[NYGFan_Section208]

What is the deal with Mack? Aside from he wasn't able to get it done at the highest level and got the boot/quit midyear? I've seen references here to "baggage" and I'm too lazy to research it, but is it more than that?

He was suspended 6 games this summer for failure to follow school guidelines.
Also related to the extortion cases against former assistant Gaudio for threatening to release videos on NCAA violations.
Bottom line though, they didn't think he was successful enough and not trending toward their liking.

Well that doesn't sound good. But if the NCAA says he's eligible...who are we to judge?

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

What is the deal with Mack? Aside from he wasn't able to get it done at the highest level and got the boot/quit midyear? I've seen references here to "baggage" and I'm too lazy to research it, but is it more than that?

You're too lazy to use Google to research Mack's NCAA violations?? Yeah, that's exhausting. Get some rest so you can post on the board.

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

Even it if has a 0.000000001% chance of happening, Chris Mack should be the first person called if Cox is fired. Archie second.

Absolute no brainer.

It literally cannot hurt to call and see if there's any shot.

It's a no-brainer to call a coach who is in hot water for violating NCAA rules?

Maybe URI should call former North Kingstown coach Aaron Thomas too? Is that a no-brainer?

[steviep123]

Hear me out, but what if we brought in Jimmy Baron (2005-2009) to lead this program? It would obviously be a major challenge but who’s to say he couldn’t form an experienced staff of former HCs to help with running the program? Maybe bring in Rob McClanaghan for Player Development? Who wouldn’t be on board for that? He has 10 years of professional experience overseas and his approval rating would be 100% from Day 1. Question is, would he even want this job? If I’m Thorr, it’s worth a call to IMG Academy.

Uh no....hiring a head coach that needs former head coaches as assistants to run a team is a failure waiting to happen. Did we not learn from the Jerry D fiasco where they had to make sure they hired Jeff Jones then George Blaney to make sure the experience is there. If you need to have an assistant to give you that experience, then you don't want that person for a coach.

This is a non starter.

[NYGFan_Section208]

What is the deal with Mack? Aside from he wasn't able to get it done at the highest level and got the boot/quit midyear? I've seen references here to "baggage" and I'm too lazy to research it, but is it more than that?

You're too lazy to use Google to research Mack's NCAA violations?? Yeah, that's exhausting. Get some rest so you can post on the board.

Totally. I'll try, thanks.

[woodennickel1]

Dear Mr Ryan, Mr Fascitelli, or Mr Soloviev,

Please call Thorr, offer up $3M per year over the next 5 years, build our practice facility, and call Chris Mack’s agent.

Thank you.

Don't think Cox is going anywhere but you would be much better off with Archie.

[rambone 78]

I'm sure PC fans would love to see Cox stay....so we'll be no threat to them.

[woodennickel1]

I'm sure PC fans would love to see Cox stay....so we'll be no threat to them.

Actually you would be surprised that I prefer both teams be good . Much more satisfying to beat you when you have a good team . In all seriousness though I just get the feeling they keep Cox no inside info. Hopefully for your sake I am wrong because Cox imo has lost control. He reminds me somewhat of when Keno was coaching PC. Absolutely no discipline at all.

[rhodysurf]

I'm sure PC fans would love to see Cox stay....so we'll be no threat to them.

Actually you would be surprised that I prefer both teams be good . Much more satisfying to beat you when you have a good team . In all seriousness though I just get the feeling they keep Cox no inside info. Hopefully for your sake I am wrong because Cox imo has lost control. He reminds me somewhat of when Keno was coaching PC. Absolutely no discipline at all.

It would be the most URI thing ever to not move on from cox this season so it’s what I expect as well

[Jersey77]

As most seem to anticipate Matt McCall will probably be gone after this season.
That would probably leave Tyson Wheeler looking for a job, wonder who's staff he lands on.

[steviep123]

As most seem to anticipate Matt McCall will probably be gone after this season.
That would probably leave Tyson Wheeler looking for a job, wonder who's staff he lands on.

Would love to see Tyson here in some capacity. Would be a great guy to have Bassy, Tres and Chance to learn from.

[Blue Man]

As most seem to anticipate Matt McCall will probably be gone after this season.
That would probably leave Tyson Wheeler looking for a job, wonder who's staff he lands on.

Would love to see Tyson here in some capacity. Would be a great guy to have Bassy, Tres and Chance to learn from.

Don't think about players. Think about the coach who will be coaching them. Chance 100% will not come here if Cox isn't here. There's a connection between Dave and his dad.

But again, we learned our lesson. Get the right coach, the right players will come.

[steviep123]

As most seem to anticipate Matt McCall will probably be gone after this season.
That would probably leave Tyson Wheeler looking for a job, wonder who's staff he lands on.

Would love to see Tyson here in some capacity. Would be a great guy to have Bassy, Tres and Chance to learn from.

Don't think about players. Think about the coach who will be coaching them. Chance 100% will not come here if Cox isn't here. There's a connection between Dave and his dad.

But again, we learned our lesson. Get the right coach, the right players will come.

Agreed on that - it was a mistake to hire Jerry D to keep Odom and it would have been a mistake to hire Cox to keep the recruiting class (none of which made it to year 4). I agree with you that Cox was at the very least a defensible hire and the right hire to keep the consistency and culture that DH built, and assuming he was actually able to keep that culture, keeping the recruits would have been a side benefit.

I do like the idea of having a good point guard to work with our guards whether that's the guards that are hear now, or the guards that will be here in the future regardless of coach. I mentioned Bassy, Tres and Chance as those three are slated to be here next year. Ish Leggett as well.

[PeterRamTime]

Was thinking even if we fire someone a lot of the guys may stay since most of them have already transferred. Could be a pretty easy transition to a new regime knowing that and how fruitful the transfer portal is.

[reef]

What’s the rule on that if they already transferred once ?? Could the Mitchell’s transfer again if DC is canned ??

[Jersey77]

What’s the rule on that if they already transferred once ?? Could the Mitchell’s transfer again if DC is canned ??

Absolutely they can, as long as they have eligibility left.

They would have to apply for a waiver because the no-sit rule wouldn't apply.
Shouldn't be an issue because almost all the waivers have been granted, especially if there is a coaching change.

[reef]

That will be interesting to see what happens with the twins if indeed Cox gets shown the door

[ramster]

As 77 said, everyone has been getting waivers. Jon Rothstein does his watermelon seeds line on waivers still.
Portal is wide open even for those who already used it once.

[SmartyBarrett]

I legitimately LOL'd when I saw this.

[BlackDogRants]

I legitimately LOL'd when I saw this.

This pisses me off ALMOST as much as not keeping DH. Pitino was 100% the guy we should have hired. Everyone was so concerned about his "baggage". His shady tactics... on and on. He goes to Iona and wheres the backlash? None - nothing. No headlines, no "how could they hire such a monster?!". Zero. Guy just comes in and casually starts turning the program around, winning their conference, and making trips to the tournament like its a days work.

What an absolute wasted opportunity to have one of games best. Imagine going from DH to Pitino? We would have been flying high right now.

Lesson learned: If a high caliber coach like Chris Mack is available and willing - take him. Worry about the "baggage" later. Nice guys finish last.

[rambone 78]

Now there's a CFL I could deal with lol.

We would have all the bells and whistles, and soon....the boosters would be falling all over themselves with their wallets open.

We would be the Gonzaga of the A10, at least.

And beating the piss out of PC.

[Jersey77]

I legitimately LOL'd when I saw this.

This pisses me off ALMOST as much as not keeping DH. Pitino was 100% the guy we should have hired. Everyone was so concerned about his "baggage". His shady tactics... on and on. He goes to Iona and wheres the backlash? None - nothing. No headlines, no "how could they hire such a monster?!". Zero. Guy just comes in and casually starts turning the program around, winning their conference, and making trips to the tournament like its a days work.

What an absolute wasted opportunity to have one of games best. Imagine going from DH to Pitino? We would have been flying high right now.

Lesson learned: If a high caliber coach like Chris Mack is available and willing - take him. Worry about the "baggage" later. Nice guys finish last.

Doesn't piss me off at all.
I don't go thru life 2nd guessing things, or dwell on past decisions.
Not going to be a Monday morning quarterback.
At the time, I felt Thorr made the right decision and will leave it at that.

[rambone 78]

We're "aiming for the stars" with the next hire lol.

They had better be.

[section(105)]

…….so, so, so, I usually stay away from naming names in this type topic…….but, what does Todd Bozeman(spelling?) do for anyone, beyond the obligatory interview…….?

[SGreenwell]

Just as a reminder, there was a poll about Pitino and others before Cox was hired - You can find it here. Like I said in another thread, I think time has made some posters forget how absolutely radioactive Pitino was at the time. (I kind of think he still is, but frankly, he's at Iona now, and you just can't get into as much shit there as you can at a power conference school.) Cox got 79 percent of the vote, with Pitino getting 10 percent. NYG, ECR and theblueram were the only posters pushing really hard for him. Amusingly, Rhody72 was just going to be happy if Cox was .500 in his first year, and there is a TJrams post strongly advocating for Cox.

[SGreenwell]

…….so, so, so, I usually stay away from naming names in this type topic…….but, what does Todd Bozeman(spelling?) do for anyone, beyond the obligatory interview…….?

Hard pass. He finished with a 195-217 record at Morgan State, and last went to the NCAA tournament in 2010. He finished his tenure with six straight losing seasons. He would get zero consideration for the job if he hadn't played here in the 1980s.

[RhowdyRam02]

I legitimately LOL'd when I saw this.

This pisses me off ALMOST as much as not keeping DH. Pitino was 100% the guy we should have hired. Everyone was so concerned about his "baggage". His shady tactics... on and on. He goes to Iona and wheres the backlash? None - nothing. No headlines, no "how could they hire such a monster?!". Zero. Guy just comes in and casually starts turning the program around, winning their conference, and making trips to the tournament like its a days work.

What an absolute wasted opportunity to have one of games best. Imagine going from DH to Pitino? We would have been flying high right now.

Lesson learned: If a high caliber coach like Chris Mack is available and willing - take him. Worry about the "baggage" later. Nice guys finish last.

This is ludicrous. He hasn't even been back as a head coach for two years, maybe we want to wait a little bit before we see if he nuked Iona or not

[SmartyBarrett]

Also, as I'm sure people know, a lifetime contract means literally nothing other than (probably) putting a nice buyout in place. I found it hilarious because I could totally see him accepting the Louisville job two weeks after signing a "lifetime" deal.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

I legitimately LOL'd when I saw this.

Translation: Nobody from the Cartel has approached him yet.

[Rhodymob05]

Just as a reminder, there was a poll about Pitino and others before Cox was hired - You can find it here. Like I said in another thread, I think time has made some posters forget how absolutely radioactive Pitino was at the time. (I kind of think he still is, but frankly, he's at Iona now, and you just can't get into as much shit there as you can at a power conference school.) Cox got 79 percent of the vote, with Pitino getting 10 percent. NYG, ECR and theblueram were the only posters pushing really hard for him. Amusingly, Rhody72 was just going to be happy if Cox was .500 in his first year, and there is a TJrams post strongly advocating for Cox.

Most saw potential for immediate success thinking current players would stay rather then future program building. We were drunk on Hurley, what can I say. Shortsighted for sure.

[Jersey77]

Just as a reminder, there was a poll about Pitino and others before Cox was hired - You can find it here. Like I said in another thread, I think time has made some posters forget how absolutely radioactive Pitino was at the time. (I kind of think he still is, but frankly, he's at Iona now, and you just can't get into as much shit there as you can at a power conference school.) Cox got 79 percent of the vote, with Pitino getting 10 percent. NYG, ECR and theblueram were the only posters pushing really hard for him. Amusingly, Rhody72 was just going to be happy if Cox was .500 in his first year, and there is a TJrams post strongly advocating for Cox.

Most saw potential for immediate success thinking current players would stay rather then future program building. We were drunk on Hurley, what can I say. Shortsighted for sure.

I don't think it was necessarily being shortsighted.

Cox was young and they were thinking long-term stability.

Besides, at the time Thorr felt that Cox was the most logical choice.

[RhowdyRam02]

Just as a reminder, there was a poll about Pitino and others before Cox was hired - You can find it here. Like I said in another thread, I think time has made some posters forget how absolutely radioactive Pitino was at the time. (I kind of think he still is, but frankly, he's at Iona now, and you just can't get into as much shit there as you can at a power conference school.) Cox got 79 percent of the vote, with Pitino getting 10 percent. NYG, ECR and theblueram were the only posters pushing really hard for him. Amusingly, Rhody72 was just going to be happy if Cox was .500 in his first year, and there is a TJrams post strongly advocating for Cox.

Most saw potential for immediate success thinking current players would stay rather then future program building. We were drunk on Hurley, what can I say. Shortsighted for sure.

I don't think it was necessarily being shortsighted.

Cox was young and they were thinking long-term stability.

Besides, at the time Thorr felt that Cox was the most logical choice.

Sometimes you can have the right process in place, make a sound decision, and not have it work out. That's life, and unfortunately for us, it's what happened when we hired Cox

[Gonebarongone]

Most saw potential for immediate success thinking current players would stay rather then future program building. We were drunk on Hurley, what can I say. Shortsighted for sure.

I don't think it was necessarily being shortsighted.

Cox was young and they were thinking long-term stability.

Besides, at the time Thorr felt that Cox was the most logical choice.

Sometimes you can have the right process in place, make a sound decision, and not have it work out. That's life, and unfortunately for us, it's what happened when we hired Cox

It was not the right process and it was not a sound decision. People were petrified about losing a roster that had a reasonable amount of talent and a couple of nice recruits. This is and always has been the worst way to hire in basketball. Taking an assistant to build off what was handed off was a risk but one worth taking sometimes. Thinking the best assistant in all of the country was one chair away is always such a weird conclusion to reach. It's being scared and safe. I think a much better case would have been a head guy at a smaller school. I know we focus on roster but in game coaching matters. I hated it at the time but being wrong wouldn't have surprised me. Just don't call it logical or anything like that. It's leading scared.

[Jersey77]

I don't think it was necessarily being shortsighted.

Cox was young and they were thinking long-term stability.

Besides, at the time Thorr felt that Cox was the most logical choice.

Sometimes you can have the right process in place, make a sound decision, and not have it work out. That's life, and unfortunately for us, it's what happened when we hired Cox

It was not the right process and it was not a sound decision. People were petrified about losing a roster that had a reasonable amount of talent and a couple of nice recruits. This is and always has been the worst way to hire in basketball. Taking an assistant to build off what was handed off was a risk but one worth taking sometimes. Thinking the best assistant in all of the country was one chair away is always such a weird conclusion to reach. It's being scared and safe. I think a much better case would have been a head guy at a smaller school. I know we focus on roster but in game coaching matters. I hated it at the time but being wrong wouldn't have surprised me. Just don't call it logical or anything like that. It's leading scared.

Absolutely not leading scared.
Thorr felt that Cox was the right choice at the time and most agreed.
He was very comfortable with that decision at the time, also highly recommended by Hurley who worked closely with him.

Sorry, but maybe you feel like you are more qualified to be an AD than Thorr.

[URI_05]

Just as a reminder, there was a poll about Pitino and others before Cox was hired - You can find it here. Like I said in another thread, I think time has made some posters forget how absolutely radioactive Pitino was at the time. (I kind of think he still is, but frankly, he's at Iona now, and you just can't get into as much shit there as you can at a power conference school.) Cox got 79 percent of the vote, with Pitino getting 10 percent. NYG, ECR and theblueram were the only posters pushing really hard for him. Amusingly, Rhody72 was just going to be happy if Cox was .500 in his first year, and there is a TJrams post strongly advocating for Cox.

I voted for Nate Oats, but would have been happy with Pitino too.