David Cox officially let go by URI (formerly, "Fire Cox")

[RIFan]

https://www.ctinsider.com/uconn/article ... 824574.php

HARTFORD — The horn had put an end to the UConn men’s basketball team’s ugliest performance of the season Tuesday night, a 59-55 loss to Creighton, and some fans in the upper bowl of an emptying XL Center loudly articulated their feelings as coach Dan Hurley headed to toward the tunnel.

So Hurley stopped. He engaged. He became animated. Hurley waved for the fans to come toward him. At least one fan made the same gesture.

“A couple of fans were yelling ‘(Bleep) you, Hurley, you suck,” said Hurley, who headed to the locker room after a heated exchange of about 10 seconds. “So I yelled back at them. If you’re going to yell at me, and you’re 100 feet away, behind layers of people — that’s some coward (stuff). But I understand. It’s part of the deal. But I’ll say, too, that you may hear something back from me. I won’t just walk away.”

Wow some fans are just classless this is a ranked Uconn team and some guy swears at DH ?? I’m glad DH didn’t back down

You mean Arrogant Haystack Calhoun and Slickee-boy Tom Moore didn't tell him that the Leg-humpers' fan base is as bad as the mental hospital's?

Hurley wasn’t hired to just receive top 25 votes or just make the tournament every couple of years…things that would be totally fine here, he was hired to win a National Championship! Those are the expectations and they will let him know about it. You wanted it Hurley…you got it. The grass is not always greener. It’s year 4 there too, and while they are in better shape than us, they are short of expectations too.

[KeaneyBluBallz]

this is just comical at this point.

legit funny.

#sorrynotsorry

[PeteRI]

FFS you fool, try posting something original instead of quoting lyrics from insipid songs.

Honestly! I wish the moderators would remove all these lyrics postings. Totally annoying and add nothing to the conversation except nonsense

Loosen up Jack Dorsey and have some fun as our team blows !

Hit the road Jack and don't you come back
No more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more
What you say?
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back
No more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more

You are to wit what Cox is to coaching.

[Ram1019]

I think Dan and Andrea would be much happier here than they are in Connecticut. YES PLEASE!!! A man can dream, right?

I have to think Andrea misses our beautiful beaches...please....?

[Sweep The Leg]

I think Dan and Andrea would be much happier here than they are in Connecticut. YES PLEASE!!! A man can dream, right?

I have to think Andrea misses our beautiful beaches...please....?

You can try this. Heard it works.

[Ram1019]

I think Dan and Andrea would be much happier here than they are in Connecticut. YES PLEASE!!! A man can dream, right?

I have to think Andrea misses our beautiful beaches...please....?

You can try this. Heard it works.

I was thinking more along these lines. Maybe replace the sombreros with Rhody hats

[Rhodymob05]

Another reason why we are where we are which I think is related to Coach Cox is some manner. Changes in roster.

2019-2020 ROSTER

F 0 Jermaine Harris TRANSFER
G 1 Fatts Russell TRANSFER/GRAD
G 2 Jeremy Sheppard CURRENT
G 4 Tyrese Martin TRANSFER
F 5 Antwan Walker CURRENT
F 10 Cyril Langevine GRAD
G 11 Jeff Dowtin GRAD
G 13 Eric Dadika GRAD
F 15 Mekhi Long TRANSFER
G 20 Jordan Green GRAD?
F 21 Jacob Toppin TRANSFER
F 23 D. J. Johnson TRANSFER

2018-2019 ROSTER
G 15 Omar Silverio TRANSFER
F 12 Dana Tate REMOVED FROM TEAM/TRANSFER

[ElmCityRhody]

Honestly! I wish the moderators would remove all these lyrics postings. Totally annoying and add nothing to the conversation except nonsense

Loosen up Jack Dorsey and have some fun as our team blows !

Hit the road Jack and don't you come back
No more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more
What you say?
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back
No more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more

You are to wit what Cox is to coaching.

well, i heard he likes to have fun )

[SGreenwell]

Another reason why we are where we are which I think is related to Coach Cox is some manner. Changes in roster.

2019-2020 ROSTER

F 0 Jermaine Harris TRANSFER
G 1 Fatts Russell TRANSFER/GRAD
G 2 Jeremy Sheppard CURRENT
G 4 Tyrese Martin TRANSFER
F 5 Antwan Walker CURRENT
F 10 Cyril Langevine GRAD
G 11 Jeff Dowtin GRAD
G 13 Eric Dadika GRAD
F 15 Mekhi Long TRANSFER
G 20 Jordan Green GRAD?
F 21 Jacob Toppin TRANSFER
F 23 D. J. Johnson TRANSFER

2018-2019 ROSTER
G 15 Omar Silverio TRANSFER
F 12 Dana Tate REMOVED FROM TEAM/TRANSFER

I'm willing to give him a "pass" on some of these. Tate had rules violations here, and got bounced from another program, before finally being productive this year. Russell gave URI four years. Looking at Long's PER, I think he's roughly equivalent to the production from Malik Martin and Jalen Carey this year, and Silverio hasn't been that productive for Hofstra until this year. D.J. Johnson is averaging 15 MPG and meager production at Kent State.

Plenty of coaches struggle to fill out the roster at the margins, because it's tough to keep competitive 18 to 22-year-olds happy with 5 to 15 MPG. However, as your listing points out, Cox has also lost guys with the potential to be All-A10 players who were playing big minutes (Martin, Toppin), and the recruits to replace them haven't had anywhere close to that potential. Ultimately in basketball, it's way better to have a starting lineup of one great player and four below average ones, vs. five average to good players. (That's partly why even though Russell wasn't great last year, it's not a coincidence that URI's offense has dropped from 127 to 207 in the KenPom rankings - ultimately, you need someone willing to penetrate, draw fouls and shoot, and someone doing this inefficiently is still better than nobody doing it at all.)

[Rhodymob05]

I forgot Gregory Hammond as well.

[rhodyrudder]

I don't remember Shep playing that year...
I think he was waiting for eligibility.

[RhowdyRam02]

Another reason why we are where we are which I think is related to Coach Cox is some manner. Changes in roster.

2019-2020 ROSTER

F 0 Jermaine Harris TRANSFER
G 1 Fatts Russell TRANSFER/GRAD
G 2 Jeremy Sheppard CURRENT
G 4 Tyrese Martin TRANSFER
F 5 Antwan Walker CURRENT
F 10 Cyril Langevine GRAD
G 11 Jeff Dowtin GRAD
G 13 Eric Dadika GRAD
F 15 Mekhi Long TRANSFER
G 20 Jordan Green GRAD?
F 21 Jacob Toppin TRANSFER
F 23 D. J. Johnson TRANSFER

2018-2019 ROSTER
G 15 Omar Silverio TRANSFER
F 12 Dana Tate REMOVED FROM TEAM/TRANSFER

And how many players did he bring in that never made a roster, 3 or 4? It's tough enough building a roster, but when you're constantly chasing because you can't keep anyone it becomes damn near impossible

[PeterRamTime]

Then you got Ileri, Tres Berry in their second year's and aren't close to being ready and then Abdou Samb on the roster now.

We see how our current guys play and I'm thinking when would these guys ever be difference makers?

[Billyboy78]

That's a good point about Ileri and Tres Berry. They have both been here for about a year and a half now, practicing and working out with the team every day. Neither one has been developed enough to get minutes on a bad team? If we were a good team with very good players in front of them, I could understand, especially with Tres at the guard position, where the play has been poor most of the year. Even for the bigs, if Ileri was ready to contribute, we could start Makhel and Walker with Makhi and Ileri backing them up. Either both were recruiting mistakes or the staff is bad at developing players. Whatever the reason, they both fall on Cox. So what is it? Recruiting mistakes? Poor development by the staff? Both?

[KingstonLane]

Another reason why we are where we are which I think is related to Coach Cox is some manner. Changes in roster.

2019-2020 ROSTER

F 0 Jermaine Harris TRANSFER
G 1 Fatts Russell TRANSFER/GRAD
G 2 Jeremy Sheppard CURRENT
G 4 Tyrese Martin TRANSFER
F 5 Antwan Walker CURRENT
F 10 Cyril Langevine GRAD
G 11 Jeff Dowtin GRAD
G 13 Eric Dadika GRAD
F 15 Mekhi Long TRANSFER
G 20 Jordan Green GRAD?
F 21 Jacob Toppin TRANSFER
F 23 D. J. Johnson TRANSFER

2018-2019 ROSTER
G 15 Omar Silverio TRANSFER
F 12 Dana Tate REMOVED FROM TEAM/TRANSFER

I'm willing to give him a "pass" on some of these. Tate had rules violations here, and got bounced from another program, before finally being productive this year. Russell gave URI four years. Looking at Long's PER, I think he's roughly equivalent to the production from Malik Martin and Jalen Carey this year, and Silverio hasn't been that productive for Hofstra until this year. D.J. Johnson is averaging 15 MPG and meager production at Kent State.

Plenty of coaches struggle to fill out the roster at the margins, because it's tough to keep competitive 18 to 22-year-olds happy with 5 to 15 MPG. However, as your listing points out, Cox has also lost guys with the potential to be All-A10 players who were playing big minutes (Martin, Toppin), and the recruits to replace them haven't had anywhere close to that potential. Ultimately in basketball, it's way better to have a starting lineup of one great player and four below average ones, vs. five average to good players. (That's partly why even though Russell wasn't great last year, it's not a coincidence that URI's offense has dropped from 127 to 207 in the KenPom rankings - ultimately, you need someone willing to penetrate, draw fouls and shoot, and someone doing this inefficiently is still better than nobody doing it at all.)

Exactly. Most of these transfers are moot. Back end of the roster players.

I’d argue player development of the guys we have is the larger issue than the majority of who we’ve lost

[Billyboy78]

Another reason why we are where we are which I think is related to Coach Cox is some manner. Changes in roster.

2019-2020 ROSTER

F 0 Jermaine Harris TRANSFER
G 1 Fatts Russell TRANSFER/GRAD
G 2 Jeremy Sheppard CURRENT
G 4 Tyrese Martin TRANSFER
F 5 Antwan Walker CURRENT
F 10 Cyril Langevine GRAD
G 11 Jeff Dowtin GRAD
G 13 Eric Dadika GRAD
F 15 Mekhi Long TRANSFER
G 20 Jordan Green GRAD?
F 21 Jacob Toppin TRANSFER
F 23 D. J. Johnson TRANSFER

2018-2019 ROSTER
G 15 Omar Silverio TRANSFER
F 12 Dana Tate REMOVED FROM TEAM/TRANSFER

I'm willing to give him a "pass" on some of these. Tate had rules violations here, and got bounced from another program, before finally being productive this year. Russell gave URI four years. Looking at Long's PER, I think he's roughly equivalent to the production from Malik Martin and Jalen Carey this year, and Silverio hasn't been that productive for Hofstra until this year. D.J. Johnson is averaging 15 MPG and meager production at Kent State.

Plenty of coaches struggle to fill out the roster at the margins, because it's tough to keep competitive 18 to 22-year-olds happy with 5 to 15 MPG. However, as your listing points out, Cox has also lost guys with the potential to be All-A10 players who were playing big minutes (Martin, Toppin), and the recruits to replace them haven't had anywhere close to that potential. Ultimately in basketball, it's way better to have a starting lineup of one great player and four below average ones, vs. five average to good players. (That's partly why even though Russell wasn't great last year, it's not a coincidence that URI's offense has dropped from 127 to 207 in the KenPom rankings - ultimately, you need someone willing to penetrate, draw fouls and shoot, and someone doing this inefficiently is still better than nobody doing it at all.)

Exactly. Most of these transfers are moot. Back end of the roster players.

I’d argue player development of the guys we have is the larger issue than the majority of who we’ve lost

How about poor recruiting?

[Sweep The Leg]

Another reason why we are where we are which I think is related to Coach Cox is some manner. Changes in roster.

2019-2020 ROSTER

F 0 Jermaine Harris TRANSFER
G 1 Fatts Russell TRANSFER/GRAD
G 2 Jeremy Sheppard CURRENT
G 4 Tyrese Martin TRANSFER
F 5 Antwan Walker CURRENT
F 10 Cyril Langevine GRAD
G 11 Jeff Dowtin GRAD
G 13 Eric Dadika GRAD
F 15 Mekhi Long TRANSFER
G 20 Jordan Green GRAD?
F 21 Jacob Toppin TRANSFER
F 23 D. J. Johnson TRANSFER

2018-2019 ROSTER
G 15 Omar Silverio TRANSFER
F 12 Dana Tate REMOVED FROM TEAM/TRANSFER

I'm willing to give him a "pass" on some of these. Tate had rules violations here, and got bounced from another program, before finally being productive this year. Russell gave URI four years. Looking at Long's PER, I think he's roughly equivalent to the production from Malik Martin and Jalen Carey this year, and Silverio hasn't been that productive for Hofstra until this year. D.J. Johnson is averaging 15 MPG and meager production at Kent State.

Plenty of coaches struggle to fill out the roster at the margins, because it's tough to keep competitive 18 to 22-year-olds happy with 5 to 15 MPG. However, as your listing points out, Cox has also lost guys with the potential to be All-A10 players who were playing big minutes (Martin, Toppin), and the recruits to replace them haven't had anywhere close to that potential. Ultimately in basketball, it's way better to have a starting lineup of one great player and four below average ones, vs. five average to good players. (That's partly why even though Russell wasn't great last year, it's not a coincidence that URI's offense has dropped from 127 to 207 in the KenPom rankings - ultimately, you need someone willing to penetrate, draw fouls and shoot, and someone doing this inefficiently is still better than nobody doing it at all.)

Exactly. Most of these transfers are moot. Back end of the roster players.

I’d argue player development of the guys we have is the larger issue than the majority of who we’ve lost

It's hard for a coach to develop a player when he himself hasn't developed as a coach in 4 years.

[SGreenwell]

I'm willing to give him a "pass" on some of these. Tate had rules violations here, and got bounced from another program, before finally being productive this year. Russell gave URI four years. Looking at Long's PER, I think he's roughly equivalent to the production from Malik Martin and Jalen Carey this year, and Silverio hasn't been that productive for Hofstra until this year. D.J. Johnson is averaging 15 MPG and meager production at Kent State.

Plenty of coaches struggle to fill out the roster at the margins, because it's tough to keep competitive 18 to 22-year-olds happy with 5 to 15 MPG. However, as your listing points out, Cox has also lost guys with the potential to be All-A10 players who were playing big minutes (Martin, Toppin), and the recruits to replace them haven't had anywhere close to that potential. Ultimately in basketball, it's way better to have a starting lineup of one great player and four below average ones, vs. five average to good players. (That's partly why even though Russell wasn't great last year, it's not a coincidence that URI's offense has dropped from 127 to 207 in the KenPom rankings - ultimately, you need someone willing to penetrate, draw fouls and shoot, and someone doing this inefficiently is still better than nobody doing it at all.)

Exactly. Most of these transfers are moot. Back end of the roster players.

I’d argue player development of the guys we have is the larger issue than the majority of who we’ve lost

How about poor recruiting?

Sure, it could be that. To me, there's a couple different things in play here - scouting (identifying HS and college players to target), recruiting (actually landing those players, not wasting time on bad or long shots), and development. I don't think there's one magical approach to building a quality program, and you can point to different coaches who do it in different ways. Calipari recruits the highest end talent; Boeheim and Pitino are great at scouting guys that'll fit their systems; in the pros, unheralded guys who play for Miami and San Antonio just seem to improve year over year.

Unfortunately, it's hard to point at an area that Cox has excelled in. When he was an assistant, I thought it was going to be recruiting, and he has gotten some talented players via the transfer portal. But the guard play especially has deteriorated badly from when Hurley was the coach.

[Taylor Swift]

1.3k posts from when this thread was created. I know about 54 of these posts were ECR and random song lyrics, but it’s quite telling. We are amongst the core diehard fans of the program and it’s not like anyone is really being out of line here calling for the coach to be fired, but this is an all out dumpster fire of epic proportions.

[ElmCityRhody]

This season had saddened to so much -

What we once had with burley is now gone

Time to pick up the pieces and get us a reach coach

Meanwhile - I will just be melancholy

Song sung blue
Weeping like a willow
Song sung blue
Sleeping on my pillow

[section(105)]

…….do you write poetry?…….

[LoveThoseRams]

…….do you write poetry?…….

Please don't encourage his nonsensical behavior!

[rambone 78]

I think he's funny...about the only thing that's funny about all of this.

Although his spelling could use some work lol.......

Must be taking his cue from brady1.......

On the sauce ECR?

Can't blame you one bit!

[ElmCityRhody]

6 month sleep regression for our youngest

i am running on batteries

[rambone 78]

I would also love to come to this site and see a new thread titled.....Cox Resigns.....because they sure aren't going to fire him during the season.

But I really doubt he'll do that either.

[TruePoint]

I would also love to come to this site and see a new thread titled.....Cox Resigns.....because they sure aren't going to fire him during the season.

But I really doubt he'll do that either.

Cox resigning is about 100X less likely than URI relieving him during the season. And that isn't very likely either. Has URI ever fired a coach in any sport during a season for any reason? I cannot think of one instance. But at least that does happen in the sport, I don't think I've ever seen a coach resign during a season just based on performance and absent a major off-court scandal. Some of the ideas that get thrown around here are kind of crazy.

[ghostofkeaney]

The writing is clearly on the wall. His players didn’t even seem to want to play for him. He’s a nice guy but a terrible coach. Time for a new voice.

[Billyboy78]

I think he's funny...about the only thing that's funny about all of this.

Although his spelling could use some work lol.......

Must be taking his cue from brady1.......

On the sauce ECR?

Can't blame you one bit!

If he's going to post songs, screw the Neil Diamond songs. Can we at least get some Zeppelin?

[Rhodymob05]

This is hell.

[RhodyFanNotAlum]

I would also love to come to this site and see a new thread titled.....Cox Resigns.....because they sure aren't going to fire him during the season.

But I really doubt he'll do that either.

Cox resigning is about 100X less likely than URI relieving him during the season. And that isn't very likely either. Has URI ever fired a coach in any sport during a season for any reason? I cannot think of one instance. But at least that does happen in the sport, I don't think I've ever seen a coach resign during a season just based on performance and absent a major off-court scandal. Some of the ideas that get thrown around here are kind of crazy.

Forget actually resigning. He hasn't even shown the self-awareness necessary to acknowledge that this is even a situation worth resigning over. Nothing about his body language or sound bites suggests he understands how bad things are.

[Billyboy78]

I would also love to come to this site and see a new thread titled.....Cox Resigns.....because they sure aren't going to fire him during the season.

But I really doubt he'll do that either.

Cox resigning is about 100X less likely than URI relieving him during the season. And that isn't very likely either. Has URI ever fired a coach in any sport during a season for any reason? I cannot think of one instance. But at least that does happen in the sport, I don't think I've ever seen a coach resign during a season just based on performance and absent a major off-court scandal. Some of the ideas that get thrown around here are kind of crazy.

Forget actually resigning. He hasn't even shown the self-awareness necessary to acknowledge that this is even a situation worth resigning over. Nothing about his body language or sound bites suggests he understands how bad things are.

It's not about wins and losses. It's about fun. Maybe they have fun at practice

[theblueram]

I would also love to come to this site and see a new thread titled.....Cox Resigns.....because they sure aren't going to fire him during the season.

But I really doubt he'll do that either.

Cox resigning is about 100X less likely than URI relieving him during the season. And that isn't very likely either. Has URI ever fired a coach in any sport during a season for any reason? I cannot think of one instance. But at least that does happen in the sport, I don't think I've ever seen a coach resign during a season just based on performance and absent a major off-court scandal. Some of the ideas that get thrown around here are kind of crazy.

Didn’t they just fire the tennis coach who came from gtown?

[TruePoint]

I would also love to come to this site and see a new thread titled.....Cox Resigns.....because they sure aren't going to fire him during the season.

But I really doubt he'll do that either.

Cox resigning is about 100X less likely than URI relieving him during the season. And that isn't very likely either. Has URI ever fired a coach in any sport during a season for any reason? I cannot think of one instance. But at least that does happen in the sport, I don't think I've ever seen a coach resign during a season just based on performance and absent a major off-court scandal. Some of the ideas that get thrown around here are kind of crazy.

Didn’t they just fire the tennis coach who came from gtown?

To my point, Goldie Ernst resigned because he was indicted on federal racketeering charges.

[Blue Man]

A buddy of mine made a great point the other day.

Assistants make promises. Coaches make decisions.

Cox never made the pivot. Honestly at this point I don’t know if he ever will.

But these interviews are flat out embarrassing regardless of whatever is happening behind the scenes.

[URI_05]

I can’t believe we have another month of this crap. I’d love for them to rip the bandaid off now and get a head start on the coaching search, but it’s unlikely. I’m pretty confident we’ll see a change at the end of the season, if we don’t, we might as well drop down to a lower conference.

[section(105)]

I can’t believe we have another month of this crap. I’d love for them to rip the bandaid off now and get a head start on the coaching search, but it’s unlikely. I’m pretty confident we’ll see a change at the end of the season, if we don’t, we might as well drop down to a lower conference.

…….no, no, no, to the drop down to a lower conference…..

[rhodylaw]

I would also love to come to this site and see a new thread titled.....Cox Resigns.....because they sure aren't going to fire him during the season.

But I really doubt he'll do that either.

Cox resigning is about 100X less likely than URI relieving him during the season. And that isn't very likely either. Has URI ever fired a coach in any sport during a season for any reason? I cannot think of one instance. But at least that does happen in the sport, I don't think I've ever seen a coach resign during a season just based on performance and absent a major off-court scandal. Some of the ideas that get thrown around here are kind of crazy.

Forget actually resigning. He hasn't even shown the self-awareness necessary to acknowledge that this is even a situation worth resigning over. Nothing about his body language or sound bites suggests he understands how bad things are.

I will defend Cox on this point a little bit - he wants to be a players coach. He isn’t going to get on the players or be negative at all in public about what is happening. Only those inside the program really know how he is reacting behind the scenes. If it is the same there, whoa boy is that really bad.

[URI_05]

I can’t believe we have another month of this crap. I’d love for them to rip the bandaid off now and get a head start on the coaching search, but it’s unlikely. I’m pretty confident we’ll see a change at the end of the season, if we don’t, we might as well drop down to a lower conference.

…….no, no, no, to the drop down to a lower conference…..

I agree 100%. That's why we need to move on from Cox at the end of the year.

[Rhodymob05]

Yea its like, I know we're not Kentucky and have a billion dollars blah blah blah, but we can't continue on the way were going, so its now or we continue down Baron 2.0. The latter is horrifying to think about.

[PeterRamTime]

Can we make this Baron 3.0? Just for the cringe?

[reef]

No changes to the starting lineup, bad rotation decisions on and on enough already !!

[rambone 78]

No changes to the starting lineup, bad rotation decisions on and on enough already !!

It needs to continue for about 6 more weeks.

Do NOT want to see any glimmer of hope for Cox.....he gets an extension and I'm out.

[reef]

Better not be any extension!! worst case scenario is he coaches the last year of his contract

[Not Mike Powell]

[RI_Bred]

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I just got a little nostalgic!

It went away quickly though.

[UCH21377]

Another reason why we are where we are which I think is related to Coach Cox is some manner. Changes in roster.

2019-2020 ROSTER

F 0 Jermaine Harris TRANSFER
G 1 Fatts Russell TRANSFER/GRAD
G 2 Jeremy Sheppard CURRENT
G 4 Tyrese Martin TRANSFER
F 5 Antwan Walker CURRENT
F 10 Cyril Langevine GRAD
G 11 Jeff Dowtin GRAD
G 13 Eric Dadika GRAD
F 15 Mekhi Long TRANSFER
G 20 Jordan Green GRAD?
F 21 Jacob Toppin TRANSFER
F 23 D. J. Johnson TRANSFER

2018-2019 ROSTER
G 15 Omar Silverio TRANSFER
F 12 Dana Tate REMOVED FROM TEAM/TRANSFER

I'm willing to give him a "pass" on some of these. Tate had rules violations here, and got bounced from another program, before finally being productive this year. Russell gave URI four years. Looking at Long's PER, I think he's roughly equivalent to the production from Malik Martin and Jalen Carey this year, and Silverio hasn't been that productive for Hofstra until this year. D.J. Johnson is averaging 15 MPG and meager production at Kent State.

Plenty of coaches struggle to fill out the roster at the margins, because it's tough to keep competitive 18 to 22-year-olds happy with 5 to 15 MPG. However, as your listing points out, Cox has also lost guys with the potential to be All-A10 players who were playing big minutes (Martin, Toppin), and the recruits to replace them haven't had anywhere close to that potential. Ultimately in basketball, it's way better to have a starting lineup of one great player and four below average ones, vs. five average to good players. (That's partly why even though Russell wasn't great last year, it's not a coincidence that URI's offense has dropped from 127 to 207 in the KenPom rankings - ultimately, you need someone willing to penetrate, draw fouls and shoot, and someone doing this inefficiently is still better than nobody doing it at all.)

Exactly. Most of these transfers are moot. Back end of the roster players.

I’d argue player don't know. development of the guys we have is the larger issue than the majority of who we’ve lost

I'm not sure I agree. Long now starts for ODU. Tate starts for Norfolk ST. Toppin 6th man at Kentucky. Tyrese starts for UConn. None of these guys could have helped us? It's far too easy to write off developmental guys that can help as "end of the bench" players. It's on the coach IMO.

[KingstonLane]

I'm willing to give him a "pass" on some of these. Tate had rules violations here, and got bounced from another program, before finally being productive this year. Russell gave URI four years. Looking at Long's PER, I think he's roughly equivalent to the production from Malik Martin and Jalen Carey this year, and Silverio hasn't been that productive for Hofstra until this year. D.J. Johnson is averaging 15 MPG and meager production at Kent State.

Plenty of coaches struggle to fill out the roster at the margins, because it's tough to keep competitive 18 to 22-year-olds happy with 5 to 15 MPG. However, as your listing points out, Cox has also lost guys with the potential to be All-A10 players who were playing big minutes (Martin, Toppin), and the recruits to replace them haven't had anywhere close to that potential. Ultimately in basketball, it's way better to have a starting lineup of one great player and four below average ones, vs. five average to good players. (That's partly why even though Russell wasn't great last year, it's not a coincidence that URI's offense has dropped from 127 to 207 in the KenPom rankings - ultimately, you need someone willing to penetrate, draw fouls and shoot, and someone doing this inefficiently is still better than nobody doing it at all.)

Exactly. Most of these transfers are moot. Back end of the roster players.

I’d argue player don't know. development of the guys we have is the larger issue than the majority of who we’ve lost

I'm not sure I agree. Long now starts for ODU. Tate starts for Norfolk ST. Toppin 6th man at Kentucky. Tyrese starts for UConn. None of these guys could have helped us? It's far too easy to write off developmental guys that can help as "end of the bench" players. It's on the coach IMO.

- Tate has been kicked out of two schools, totally separate issue

- Long averaged 8 ppg on a middle of the pack program in a lower level conference. Impossible to say that he couldn’t have carved out a role here but he’s not dominating at a lower level to a point that would make me miss him

- Tyrese/Toppin you can bucket into the same equation. I’ve talked about this endlessly here. How often do A10 players get a chance to transfer to Top 25 P5 schools? Pretty much impossible to retain talent in that situation. Get used to this in the modern day transfer environment

[steveystuds06]

Top A10 programs can, without question, keep players like Tyrese and Toppin. It’s not impossible under the right coach…It’s impossible under Cox

[KingstonLane]

Top A10 programs can, without question, keep players like Tyrese and Toppin. It’s not impossible under the right coach…It’s impossible under Cox

Except the best program in the A10 this year also lost a player to Kentucky.

Facts don’t matter though huh? Would rather make things up to fit your narrative?

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Top A10 programs can, without question, keep players like Tyrese and Toppin. It’s not impossible under the right coach…It’s impossible under Cox

Except the best program in the A10 this year also lost a player to Kentucky.

Facts don’t matter though huh? Would rather make things up to fit your narrative?

Davidson does not have grad school courses. He graduated and was forced to transfer or go pro. Davidson was not an option for Grady