Fatts (Grad Transfer to Maryland)

[FDshoes]

Fatts played a lot more disciplined with Hurley as the coach...

He wasn't the PG in the beginning. Worst coaching move ever in our programs history was moving Jeff off the point.

[steviep123]

Probably MMQB'ing here (though I remember saying it or at least thinking it at the time). I would have loved to have seen JD start and Fatts off the bench in JD's last two years. There would obviously be times with both in the game, where either one could be point, but Jeff Dowtin was one of the best point guards we've had here and was a leader. It was asinine to move him off the ball for long periods of time.

[Tjrams91]

Fatts played a lot more disciplined with Hurley as the coach...

He wasn't the PG in the beginning. Worst coaching move ever in our programs history was moving Jeff off the point.

Positionless basketball. Folks label players because it makes their role more identifiable, but they def switched bringing the ball up the floor depending on the pressure or the matchup. Fatts was stealthily quick, made the press break much easier.

I don’t think we ever had a true PG when they were both here, just MY OPINION. Not debating, just sharing my take.

[FDshoes]

Fatts played a lot more disciplined with Hurley as the coach...

He wasn't the PG in the beginning. Worst coaching move ever in our programs history was moving Jeff off the point.

Positionless basketball. Folks label players because it makes their role more identifiable, but they def switched bringing the ball up the floor depending on the pressure or the matchup. Fatts was stealthily quick, made the press break much easier.

I don’t think we ever had a true PG when they were both here, just MY OPINION. Not debating, just sharing my take.

100% disagree Jeff was a phenomenal PG.

[FDshoes]

He wasn't the PG in the beginning. Worst coaching move ever in our programs history was moving Jeff off the point.

Positionless basketball. Folks label players because it makes their role more identifiable, but they def switched bringing the ball up the floor depending on the pressure or the matchup. Fatts was stealthily quick, made the press break much easier.

I don’t think we ever had a true PG when they were both here, just MY OPINION. Not debating, just sharing my take.

100% disagree Jeff was a phenomenal PG. And they foolishly took the ball out his hands far to often. Maybe using Fatts to break a full court press was justifiable. But other then that I stand by my statement

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Jeff Dowtin was one of the best point guards I've ever seen at URI. The cumulative numbers might say otherwise because he was adrift in a small boat for two years, but he's right up there with Jiggy Williamson, Silk Owens and Tyson Wheeler. What a waste.

[Tjrams91]

He wasn't the PG in the beginning. Worst coaching move ever in our programs history was moving Jeff off the point.

Positionless basketball. Folks label players because it makes their role more identifiable, but they def switched bringing the ball up the floor depending on the pressure or the matchup. Fatts was stealthily quick, made the press break much easier.

I don’t think we ever had a true PG when they were both here, just MY OPINION. Not debating, just sharing my take.

100% disagree Jeff was a phenomenal PG.

Oh wait, we agree, he is a great PG

[RAMFAN]

[Blue Man]

Wait I was told you can’t fire coaches mid season?

Fatts may have killed 2 coaching careers he’s so selfish.

[adam914]

Wow, kind of surprising to see a move like that this early in the season.

[Rhodymob05]

Holy CRAP

[rhodysurf]

To be fair they have looked like shit haha

[rhodylaw]

Coach killer! Jk….but if you look at the losses they have had there is a common (and painfully familiar) trend…2-10, 1-7, 4-11….shooting 20% from three for the season. Only reason his FG% is “ok” at 38% is because he has not taken a lot of 3s.

[SmartyBarrett]

Wowwwww

[Jersey77]

Wow, that is surprising, wonder if there is more to this than what it appears.
I know he wasn't well liked by some down there, but didn't expect this.
In his 7 years at Maryland In the BIG (10 total) , they went to 5 NCAAT (should of been 6 except for cancellation) with some success, including a Sweet 16.
In 2020 they finished 1st in the B10 (14-6) only to have Covid derail the postseason.
He has been around but is only 56.

[JimSidd]

Wow, kind of surprising to see a move like that this early in the season.

Definitely a pro move creeping into the college game. I can’t think of any mid season changes that weren’t related to health issues or NCAA violations. There may be, but this has to be rare.

[adam914]

Trying to put this on Fatts is BS in my opinion. As I said yesterday, plenty of blame to go around.

[SGreenwell]

ESPN has gotten a short story up: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... us-seasons

Danny Manning is the interim coach - He was fired by Wake Forest after going 78-111 in six years, per Wikipedia. So, unless they finish gangbusters, I do imagine that they try to land someone high profile after the year. In April 2021, Turgeon was extended through 2026, so I imagine this is a decision of his own, vs. being forced out.

[rhodyruckus]

Danny Manning is interim coach now, so the rotations will be interesting to watch. If you were to ever get an aggressive interim guy, Manning is probably it. He got canned from Wake end of last season after 6 years, and is probably itching to make an impact with this fresh start.

[SmartyBarrett]

Yianni is a Maryland alum.

[Jersey77]

ESPN has gotten a short story up: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... us-seasons

Danny Manning is the interim coach - He was fired by Wake Forest after going 78-111 in six years, per Wikipedia. So, unless they finish gangbusters, I do imagine that they try to land someone high profile after the year. In April 2021, Turgeon was extended through 2026, so I imagine this is a decision of his own, vs. being forced out.

I don't know about that, unless for some health reasons not disclosed.
Why would any coach not being forced out deliberately leave his team this early in the season, prior to conference play?
All this doesn't make sense, we don't have all the facts yet.

[Seawrightspostgame]

They must have all envisioned a different contribution from Fatts when this whole thing started. We did come out on top with our trade with Maryland. The twins for Fatts. DEAL.

[ramster]

Wait I was told you can’t fire coaches mid season?

Fatts may have killed 2 coaching careers he’s so selfish.

URI could make the dance this year and Maryland sit at home.

[ramster]

They must have all envisioned a different contribution from Fatts when this whole thing started. We did come out on top with our trade with Maryland. The twins for Fatts. DEAL.

Just Turgeon taking Russell alone is looking like a deal. Addition by subtraction for one team, subtraction by addition for the other.

[ramster]

I’d love to hear DC_Rams thoughts on this one

[steveystuds06]

I’d love to hear DC_Rams thoughts on this one

It's TJ now

[Blue Man]

I’d love to hear DC_Rams thoughts on this one

Nah TjRams was more of an optimist. I preferred his takes.

[SmartyBarrett]

[Jersey77]

I know it is very easy to dump on Fatts, but let's face it he isn't the only one responsible for some of their shortcomings this year.
Ayala the team's leading returner is averaging 13.5 pts (35% FG) and 28.6% 3pt, He is down from last season 15 pts (44%) and 34% 3pt.
They also miss Wiggins and glue guy Morsell, top defender in the B10.
Morsell at Marquette is averaging 14.5 pts, 2nd on the team in assists, and shooting 44% 3pt.

I think Maryland still has a very good team with a solid starting 5 and should be respectable in the B10.

I can also see Turgeon going back home to coach somewhere in the Midwest.

[Billyboy78]

I’d love to hear DC_Rams thoughts on this one

He promised us he was gone.

[reef]

Wow surprised to hear about this but I guess it makes some sense with their performance and expectations

[McRam]

Did Fatts get Turgenev fired ?

[NYGFan_Section208]

Did Fatts get Turgenev fired ?

What's a Turgenev?

[Billyboy78]

Did Fatts get Turgenev fired ?

What's a Turgenev?

Ivan Turgenev, Russian novelist. I didn't even know that Fatts knew him.

[rhodyblue12]

I want to hear Ace's take on this ....

[reef]

Did Fatts get Turgenev fired ?

I don’t believe Fatts was the primary reason maybe a small part though

[PeterRamTime]

Did Fatts get Turgenev fired ?

I don’t believe Fatts was the primary reason maybe a small part though

Looks to me that Fatts was being more of a distributor, but just can't shoot to save his life.

He had that great 3/4th of his junior year and I guess he's just been in his head. Can't stay in a flow.

Turgeon in 10 years just didn't do enough.

[Jersey77]

It seems that the big $ boosters call the shots at Maryland (as some KB posters would hope here), and all hasn't been well in College Park for awhile.

Candidates names are already being thrown around, including Rick Pitino.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/12/03/m ... ny-manning

[ramster]

Did Fatts get Turgenev fired ?

I don’t believe Fatts was the primary reason maybe a small part though

Looks to me that Fatts was being more of a distributor, but just can't shoot to save his life.

He had that great 3/4th of his junior year and I guess he's just been in his head. Can't stay in a flow.

Turgeon in 10 years just didn't do enough.

No actually his assists are worse. He is currently averaging only 3.5 apg thru 8 games vs 4.5 apg at URI last season.

3P Shooting has dropped from 23.5% last year to 20% at Maryland
FT Shooting has dropped from 80% last year to 72.5% at Maryland
FG Shooting has moved up a bit from only 34% last year to 38% at Maryland

Last year he had foot, ankle, knee, wrist and shoulder issues if I remember right but this year healthy as far as I know

[ramster]

It seems that the big $ boosters call the shots at Maryland (as some KB posters would hope here), and all hasn't been well in College Park for awhile.

Candidates names are already being thrown around, including Rick Pitino.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/12/03/m ... ny-manning

Turgeon wanted the Marquette job that Shake Smart got last year. He was disappointed.

[Jersey77]

It seems that the big $ boosters call the shots at Maryland (as some KB posters would hope here), and all hasn't been well in College Park for awhile.

Candidates names are already being thrown around, including Rick Pitino.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/12/03/m ... ny-manning

Turgeon wanted the Marquette job that Shake Smart got last year. He was disappointed.

Correct, they did end up negotiating an extension this past year, but it wasn't really a good match.
Crazy thing is Shaka hired Maryland assistant DeAndre Haynes who now ended up at Marquette, a little ironic.

There never seemed to be a love fest between those at Maryland and Turgeon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... land-fans/

[Seawrightspostgame]

20% The other players probably don’t love playing with a guy that makes 1 out of every 5 three balls. No help in height dept too.

[adam914]

20% The other players probably don’t love playing with a guy that makes 1 out of every 5 three balls. No help in height dept too.

9 of their 12 players shoot below 29% from three.

[reef]

Turgeon always rubbed me the wrong way after that game we played them in 2013 in the handshake line

Also he got into a war of words with Juwan Howard too

[ramster]

Fans on their message board are not happy with the quality and level of recruits he has been bringing in.

[reef]

Fans on their message board are not happy with the quality and level of recruits he has been bringing in.

Terps fans must be elated with today’s news

[Seawrightspostgame]

Fans on their message board are not happy with the quality and level of recruits he has been bringing in.

The Mitchells worked out great

[Seawrightspostgame]

Fans on their message board are not happy with the quality and level of recruits he has been bringing in.

These are the same ppl that pushed their way out of the ACC and into the BIG10. They don’t have great judgment.

[Jersey77]

Fans on their message board are not happy with the quality and level of recruits he has been bringing in.

The Mitchells worked out great

I wonder what the twins feel about Turgeon being gone at Maryland.

Curious what buyout/severance package they negotiated.

[CaptainRon]

Fans on their message board are not happy with the quality and level of recruits he has been bringing in.

The Mitchells worked out great

I wonder what the twins feel about Turgeon being gone at Maryland.

Curious what buyout/severance package they negotiated.

A lot depends if he quit or got canned.