The 2021 Coaching Carousel

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Sean Miller out @ Arizona

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ean-miller

things continue to go south with Cox next year...do we make the push (I'm half kidding here)
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wpbrown8267 wrote: 3 years ago Sean Miller out @ Arizona

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ean-miller

things continue to go south with Cox next year...do we make the push (I'm half kidding here)
Yes, Arizona finally pulled the trigger on Sean Miller

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Hats off to Zona for finally canning him , little late but at least it happened
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Both Miller's out of a job at the same time. Who woulda thought.
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I’m actually surprised Archie hasn’t been hired yet.
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URI_05 wrote: 3 years ago I’m actually surprised Archie hasn’t been hired yet.
Getting a $10.3 million dollar buyout he is in no rush, not exactly destitute.

He will patiently wait until the right opportunity comes along, and it will.
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wpbrown8267 wrote: 3 years ago Sean Miller out @ Arizona

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ean-miller

things continue to go south with Cox next year...do we make the push (I'm half kidding here)

Half kidding yes... but he is one hell of a coach in my opinion
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RhodeIslandBorn wrote: 3 years ago
wpbrown8267 wrote: 3 years ago Sean Miller out @ Arizona

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ean-miller

things continue to go south with Cox next year...do we make the push (I'm half kidding here)

Half kidding yes... but he is one hell of a coach in my opinion
Give me either of the Miller brothers next year if Cox gets fired.
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URI_05 wrote: 3 years ago I’m actually surprised Archie hasn’t been hired yet.
Hired by whom? Why would he rush to a new job and settle for something?

He got a nice big payout check. He can sit it out and see what jobs open up in the future.
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Yeah I can see both Miller’s sitting out this year get paid handsomely then come back recharged next year
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reef wrote: 3 years ago Yeah I can see both Miller’s sitting out this year get paid handsomely then come back recharged next year
Sounds like Sean may end up as an NBA assistant at some point in the near future.
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Brannan our at Cincinnati maybe Archie M on their list ??
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reef wrote: 3 years ago Brannan our at Cincinnati maybe Archie M on their list ??
Cincy wouldn't be a bad landing spot for Archie, just down the road from Dayton where he spent 6 years.
Also not far from Indiana, and Cincy is in the AAC conference which is pretty damn good.
I actually think it looks like a good fit for both.

Sean Miller may be a good candidate also, since he spent time at Xavier.
The optics on him may not be very good currently, so not sure the timing is right.
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Archie sitting out a year maybe he wants to launch another A-10 power...
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According to the Indianapolis Star, Indiana will have to pay Miller more than $10 million over the next three years to buy out his contract. Dolson said “private philanthropic funding has been obtained for all transition costs and obligations related to the change in leadership.” Miller ranked 21st in the country in salary this season, making $3,350,000, according to USA Today.



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Not too happy........





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Did I miss something? Was there a scandal at Cincy?
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Kevin Ollie news


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Jim Ferry to UMBC. I remember people mentioning him as a possible successor to CFL early on in the push to get rid of him. While logical at the time, interesting to see him in the time since coach at Duquesne, Penn State (interim) and now UMBC.
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Bos8 wrote: 3 years ago Jim Ferry to UMBC. I remember people mentioning him as a possible successor to CFL early on in the push to get rid of him. While logical at the time, interesting to see him in the time since coach at Duquesne, Penn State (interim) and now UMBC.
Your post made me wonder, "Hey, what the hell has Pat Skerry been up to?" And the answer is a rollercoaster ride of W-L chaos at Towson.
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SGreenwell wrote: 3 years ago
Bos8 wrote: 3 years ago Jim Ferry to UMBC. I remember people mentioning him as a possible successor to CFL early on in the push to get rid of him. While logical at the time, interesting to see him in the time since coach at Duquesne, Penn State (interim) and now UMBC.
Your post made me wonder, "Hey, what the hell has Pat Skerry been up to?" And the answer is a rollercoaster ride of W-L chaos at Towson.
I like Skerry, but Towson has been hit hard by transfers. People like Justin Gorham would have been a huge piece for Towson, left, in his case he ends up starting for Final 4 Houston, Allen Betrand transferring to us etc... Make sure to look up the saga of Zane Martin.
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SGreenwell wrote: 3 years ago
Bos8 wrote: 3 years ago Jim Ferry to UMBC. I remember people mentioning him as a possible successor to CFL early on in the push to get rid of him. While logical at the time, interesting to see him in the time since coach at Duquesne, Penn State (interim) and now UMBC.
Your post made me wonder, "Hey, what the hell has Pat Skerry been up to?" And the answer is a rollercoaster ride of W-L chaos at Towson.
10 years at Towson:

2011–12 Towson (1–31) 1–17 12th
2012–13 Towson (18–13) 13–5 2nd
2013–14 Towson (25–11) 13–3 2nd CIT Quarterfinals
2014–15 Towson (12–20) 5–13 9th
2015–16 Towson (20–13) 11–7 T–3rd Vegas 16 Quarterfinals
2016–17 Towson (20–13) 11–7 3rd
2017–18 Towson (18–14) 8–10 5th
2018–19 Towson (10–22) 6–12 T–8th
2019–20 Towson (19–13) 12–6 3rd
2020–21 Towson (3–7) 2–3 7th
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ramster wrote: 3 years ago
SGreenwell wrote: 3 years ago
Bos8 wrote: 3 years ago Jim Ferry to UMBC. I remember people mentioning him as a possible successor to CFL early on in the push to get rid of him. While logical at the time, interesting to see him in the time since coach at Duquesne, Penn State (interim) and now UMBC.
Your post made me wonder, "Hey, what the hell has Pat Skerry been up to?" And the answer is a rollercoaster ride of W-L chaos at Towson.
10 years at Towson:

2011–12 Towson (1–31) 1–17 12th
2012–13 Towson (18–13) 13–5 2nd
2013–14 Towson (25–11) 13–3 2nd CIT Quarterfinals
2014–15 Towson (12–20) 5–13 9th
2015–16 Towson (20–13) 11–7 T–3rd Vegas 16 Quarterfinals
2016–17 Towson (20–13) 11–7 3rd
2017–18 Towson (18–14) 8–10 5th
2018–19 Towson (10–22) 6–12 T–8th
2019–20 Towson (19–13) 12–6 3rd
2020–21 Towson (3–7) 2–3 7th
He went 4-14 this year, at least according to Sports Reference. Thanks for the copy-paste from another site, though.
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What a turnaround from 1-31 !!!
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That was 10 years ago.
Pretty mediocre performance in a weak conference.
No NIT.
No NCAA.
No Championships
Has not come in 2nd since 2013-14.
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There was at least 1 poster I can recall that thought Skerry was a better hire than Hurley. Laughable.
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Rumors circulating that Luke Murray may join Hurley's staff from the UConn board and article in the Hartford Courant.
See below:

https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-me ... story.html
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Jersey77 wrote: 3 years ago Rumors circulating that Luke Murray may join Hurley's staff from the UConn board and article in the Hartford Courant.
See below:

https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-me ... story.html
Would make a lot of sense given Murray grew up just over the border in NY and went to college in CT at Fairfield. He also has previously worked on Hurley's staff at two schools - Wagner and URI.
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Yup seems like a good hire
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Saw this a couple days ago, over $1M/year for 4 years guaranteed, to keep an assistant basketball coach. Wow

This after Kentucky loses top recruiting assistant to Bobby Hurley.



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Richmond loses their top recruiting assistant and associate head coach Marcus Jenkins to Minnesota.

https://richmond.com/sports/college/ric ... ae5e5.html
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Think about this for a second - Illinois is prepared to pay ONE assistant coach more than TWO TIMES the ENTIRE assistant staff salary pool of URI.
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RF1 wrote: 3 years ago Think about this for a second - Illinois is prepared to pay ONE assistant coach more than TWO TIMES the ENTIRE assistant staff salary pool of URI.
Word is Orlando Antigua will be leaving Illinois and returning to Kentucky, they probably matched the offer.



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Antigua reunited with Coach Calipari
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RF1 wrote: 3 years ago Think about this for a second - Illinois is prepared to pay ONE assistant coach more than TWO TIMES the ENTIRE assistant staff salary pool of URI.
Cartel football money goes a long way.
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RF1 wrote: 3 years ago Think about this for a second - Illinois is prepared to pay ONE assistant coach more than TWO TIMES the ENTIRE assistant staff salary pool of URI.
And this doesn't even take into account their pool to pay recruits...
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Rhode_Island_Red wrote: 3 years ago
RF1 wrote: 3 years ago Think about this for a second - Illinois is prepared to pay ONE assistant coach more than TWO TIMES the ENTIRE assistant staff salary pool of URI.
Cartel football money goes a long way.
Doesn't hurt. Plenty of non FBS schools have top tier basketball programs that pay market rate for the full coaching staff, though. It's really hard to come up with a better return on investment than good recruiters on staff. Even the ones you get on their way up leave for better pay. You won't get a guy to turn down 3x salary at a high major but you can certainly match something like what Preston Murphy got ($250k guaranteed for two years) at BC. Worse, because you can't be competitive with salary, the bad ones stay. Coming up with $500k more per year for recruiters will lead to more revenue down the line.
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And yet, Marquette has one of the largest Men's Basketball budgets in the country. And many of the Big East schools seem to compete nicely with their BCS counterparts.
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Gonebarongone wrote: 3 years ago
Rhode_Island_Red wrote: 3 years ago
RF1 wrote: 3 years ago Think about this for a second - Illinois is prepared to pay ONE assistant coach more than TWO TIMES the ENTIRE assistant staff salary pool of URI.
Cartel football money goes a long way.
Doesn't hurt. Plenty of non FBS schools have top tier basketball programs that pay market rate for the full coaching staff, though. It's really hard to come up with a better return on investment than good recruiters on staff. Even the ones you get on their way up leave for better pay. You won't get a guy to turn down 3x salary at a high major but you can certainly match something like what Preston Murphy got ($250k guaranteed for two years) at BC. Worse, because you can't be competitive with salary, the bad ones stay. Coming up with $500k more per year for recruiters will lead to more revenue down the line.
I think this is a really accurate statement of how most programs are missing the mark on assistant coaches. If you consistently want to be a top 40 program your top assistant needs to be making over $300k. It should be more then the salary of a low-end D1 head coach job. Increasing the assistant pool to $750k would do more for the program then paying over $750k for a head coach.
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Cameron_Dollar wrote: 3 years ago And yet, Marquette has one of the largest Men's Basketball budgets in the country. And many of the Big East schools seem to compete nicely with their BCS counterparts.
We all know the Big East schools get $5 Million each year, so that's a good start for schools without football to fund.
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Power rankings of coaches on the "Hot Seat" for upcoming season.
#2 listed is Bobby Hurley
#7 listed is Chris Mooney

https://bustingbrackets.com/2021/05/13/ ... 2021-22/3/
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Jersey77 wrote: 2 years ago Power rankings of coaches on the "Hot Seat" for upcoming season.
#2 listed is Bobby Hurley
#7 listed is Chris Mooney

https://bustingbrackets.com/2021/05/13/ ... 2021-22/3/
I feel like Mooney has been on the "Hot Seat" for the past 10 seasons.
He's an interesting case. There seems to be a group of Richmond fans that want to get rid of him. He's typically in these pre-season articles. Yet his name will pop up for bigger jobs as well. The style of basketball they play could be considered unappealing, but his teams are typically united, play tough and seem to enjoy playing for him. Each season they seem to win a few games that they shouldn't, but inevitably they lose a few that they shouldn't.
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Bos8 wrote: 2 years ago
Jersey77 wrote: 2 years ago Power rankings of coaches on the "Hot Seat" for upcoming season.
#2 listed is Bobby Hurley
#7 listed is Chris Mooney

https://bustingbrackets.com/2021/05/13/ ... 2021-22/3/
I feel like Mooney has been on the "Hot Seat" for the past 10 seasons.
He's an interesting case. There seems to be a group of Richmond fans that want to get rid of him. He's typically in these pre-season articles. Yet his name will pop up for bigger jobs as well. The style of basketball they play could be considered unappealing, but his teams are typically united, play tough and seem to enjoy playing for him. Each season they seem to win a few games that they shouldn't, but inevitably they lose a few that they shouldn't.
Richmond would of probably "Danced" in 2019-2020 finishing 2nd in the A10, unfortunate for Mooney.
With his senior stars returning and most of his roster back and healthy, they should have no excuses this season, and will be a co-favorite to finish atop of the A10.
If all goes as expected for them, the additional year of eligibility will probably save his job.
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