Who’ Available- Who do we want (To replace DC)?

[RF1]

I believe that URI presently pays one of the lowest salaries to a head coach in the A-10. I think I have read that the only coach that makes less is Mckillop at Davidson which is a very special case.

[ace]

Does anyone have a recent comparison on how URI compares to the rest of the A10 in MBB spending?

I feel like every time someone compiles that data, URI comes in around fourth. Am I making that up or does that seem accurate? Or maybe that was with the previous coach’s salary?

[ace]

I think they should make Fatts the head coach!

Player/coach Fatts Russell. I’m buying season tickets and driving the four plus hours up for each and every game. Make it happen!

[FDshoes]

Does anyone have a recent comparison on how URI compares to the rest of the A10 in MBB spending?

I feel like every time someone compiles that data, URI comes in around fourth. Am I making that up or does that seem accurate? Or maybe that was with the previous coach’s salary?

Most recent data i found was from 18-19 and we were 6th

[Blue Man]

I think they should make Fatts the head coach!

Cox already did. That was kind of the problem.

[ace]

Does anyone have a recent comparison on how URI compares to the rest of the A10 in MBB spending?

I feel like every time someone compiles that data, URI comes in around fourth. Am I making that up or does that seem accurate? Or maybe that was with the previous coach’s salary?

Most recent data i found was from 18-19 and we were 6th

That makes sense. I was probably thinking a few more years ago with 4th. I don’t think any program enhancements were decreased (charters, assistant salary pool, etc) moving from Hurley to Cox, so the head coach’s salary could explain that.

[RF1]

I believe from most sources I have seen that URI ranks in the middle of the league for overall spending on Men's basketball. This grouping spends fairly close to one another in the upper $4-5M range. It however lags by several million behind the top schools such as Dayton and VCU.

[Rhody15]

A name that hasn't been brought up yet who I would be all for is Pat Kelsey at Winthrop.

Yes I know he backed out at UMass literal minutes before his presser, and those questions would have to be asked, but I think he could be a very good hire here if/when Cox were to be let go.

Another regular season and conference tournament Big South Title for Pat Kelsey.

23-1 entering the tourney.

[rambone 78]

I believe from most sources I have seen that URI ranks in the middle of the league for overall spending on Men's basketball. This grouping spends fairly close to one another in the upper upper $4-5M range. It however lags by several million behind the top schools such as Dayton and VCU.

You are quite correct.

Middle of the league spending usually results in middle of league standing.

Unless you have a coach such as Schmidt.

There's a reason Dayton and VCU are good most years. They invest the most in their programs.

We are middle of the pack mediocre.

Thorr and co. talk big, deliver little.

It's been that way for many years at URI, and I doubt it will ever change.

When we have a really good coach, we'll outperform our spending level...that's what it takes....and it only lasts as long as we can keep that coach.

[theblueram]

I believe from most sources I have seen that URI ranks in the middle of the league for overall spending on Men's basketball. This grouping spends fairly close to one another in the upper upper $4-5M range. It however lags by several million behind the top schools such as Dayton and VCU.

You are quite correct.

Middle of the league spending usually results in middle of league standing.

Unless you have a coach such as Schmidt.

There's a reason Dayton and VCU are good most years. They invest the most in their programs.

We are middle of the pack mediocre.

Thorr and co. talk big, deliver little.

It's been that way for many years at URI, and I doubt it will ever change.

When we have a really good coach, we'll outperform our spending level...that's what it takes....and it only lasts as long as we can keep that coach.

Bone that's being a bit facetious. URI offered DH $2M+ when uconn came calling. $2M+. I think the money was there, just a day late and a dollar short.

[rambone 78]

I heard half that 2m was from boosters.

No way URI could have afforded all of that.

[FDshoes]

I think Thirr offered DH that contract knowing he wouldnt take it. He was already out the door. Thorr did this strictly in attempts to save face IMO.

[rambone 78]

At least boosters seem willing to fork over big bucks for the right coach.

That will help down the road, when we get better coaching, hopefully.

[theblueram]

I heard half that 2m was from boosters.

No way URI could have afforded all of that.

We borrowed from the endowment to get DH's last contract. The school was doing everything it could.

[rambone 78]

I heard half that 2m was from boosters.

No way URI could have afforded all of that.

We borrowed from the endowment to get DH's last contract. The school was doing everything it could.

For the next coach, we might have to do that again.

[daytonflyerfan]

You see a path to the dance next year with Crutcher, Watson, Chatman and Jordy leaving? Or I guess some of them might return, but its looking tough regardless.

Crutcher is averaging 18 ppg, Watson 16, Chatman 8, and Jordy 7p and 8r, all seniors. Hard to say who, if any, comes back from those 4.

The 4 incoming freshmen are highly touted.

Will have only 1 senior, Weaver, who only averaged 4 ppg.

1 junior, Cohill, returning from injury, only averaged 2 ppg.

6 sophomores, 1 averaging 10 ppg, the other 5 less than 10 ppg.

I am down on Grant, so I will say no nccat, but if some of the seniors return, who knows? Maybe some of the freshmen push them over the top.

Coaching is so important, it's a huge part of everything IMO. Very hard to overcome a coaching problem.

[Rhody72]

URI lacks the money to hire an established D1 coach as well as the courage to rebuild the athletic program from scratch in order to get the necessary money.. Although Jimmy has never coached at any level, he was a college coaches son for all his life. He knows what the job entails and he knows what it takes to be a great basketball player. I believe that he can excel at all aspects of being a head coach. He is universally respected by the URI community. And, he might come to URI and STAY when he is successful, and not take URI as a stepping stone when other opportunities come knocking.

Think outside the box. I know that this is unusual and a risk, but it is one that is worth taking. That said, I want Dave Cox to remain our head coach but if he were to leave ...

[FDshoes]

URI lacks the money to hire an established D1 coach as well as the courage to rebuild the athletic program from scratch in order to get the necessary money.. Although Jimmy has never coached at any level, he was a college coaches son for all his life. He knows what the job entails and he knows what it takes to be a great basketball player. I believe that he can excel at all aspects of being a head coach. He is universally respected by the URI community. And, he might come to URI and STAY when he is successful, and not take URI as a stepping stone when other opportunities come knocking.

Think outside the box. I know that this is unusual and a risk, but it is one that is worth taking. That said, I want Dave Cox to remain our head coach but if he were to leave ...

^^dumb. Kid has never recruited once in his life. Been playing pro ball overseas up until very recently. Zero coaching experience but yea sure lets hire a KID as our next HC. This is lunacy. "His father was a college coach" yup he was and he was horrendous!

[URI2006_Andy]

URI lacks the money to hire an established D1 coach as well as the courage to rebuild the athletic program from scratch in order to get the necessary money.. Although Jimmy has never coached at any level, he was a college coaches son for all his life. He knows what the job entails and he knows what it takes to be a great basketball player. I believe that he can excel at all aspects of being a head coach. He is universally respected by the URI community. And, he might come to URI and STAY when he is successful, and not take URI as a stepping stone when other opportunities come knocking.

Think outside the box. I know that this is unusual and a risk, but it is one that is worth taking. That said, I want Dave Cox to remain our head coach but if he were to leave ...

I like your thinking outside the box. I can see Jimmy being a really good coach one day. If I were a NEC school, I’d listen. Probably needs that first stop to learn and prove himself like Hurley at Wagner.

[reef]

Jimmy B needs to get into coaching gradually at the assistant level he nowhere close to becoming a head man yet

[bigappleram]

Jimmy is working at IMG Academy. He’s started the process. He’ll likely have very good options soon to go into personal high level training or coaching.

[Blue Man]

Stop responding to the troll

[phipsiGD'11]

Rhody72 is the best troll on this board. There's only a couple but he is by far the best. Can't believe people take his comments seriously.

[rambone 78]

Like I said, we could use him here for teaching proper shooting techniques, especially FT shooting.

[Billyboy78]

Like I said, we could use him here for teaching proper shooting techniques, especially FT shooting.

Who, Jimmy or '72?

[rambone 78]

We have 72 for comic relief.

[Rhodyhooopz]

The message to Thorr should be.... hey Thorr you want 3,500 people per game for the big games and 2,500 for the crap games in the Ryan center or 5,000 plus per game? Should be an easy answer

[rambone 78]

Season tickets renewals are likely to be down for next season due to the virus...it will likely still be too early to go back to normal...and even if it was, a lot of people will be hesitant to go not just because of the virus, but because we will suck again.

[ram1980]

Season tickets renewals are likely to be down for next season due to the virus...it will likely still be too early to go back to normal...and even if it was, a lot of people will be hesitant to go not just because of the virus, but because we will suck again.

I'm in next year suck or not. That's being a true fan. You root for your team through thick and thin. Ever since walking on the uri campus and going to my first game at keaney in 1976 I switched allegiance from the dreaded black and white to keaney blue.. have seen many teams that suck but going to the games with my wife is something we both look forward to and will hopefully be able to get back to in November. Even if it means wearing a ..

[theblueram]

Season tickets renewals are likely to be down for next season due to the virus...it will likely still be too early to go back to normal...and even if it was, a lot of people will be hesitant to go not just because of the virus, but because we will suck again.

I'm in next year suck or not. That's being a true fan. You root for your team through thick and thin. Ever since walking on the uri campus and going to my first game at keaney in 1976 I switched allegiance from the dreaded black and white to keaney blue.. have seen many teams that suck but going to the games with my wife is something we both look forward to and will hopefully be able to get back to in November. Even if it means wearing a ..

It took me like 15 years before my wife went to a Rhody game with me. Said she didn't like basketball. I brought her to the Rhody Pub her first game at the RC, had some beers with friends and now she is a die hard. It's a great night out for sure.

[Jersey77]

Maybe McDermott is/will be available now...

ETA: If he had said 'reservation' instead of 'plantation'...would it be any less of thing?

"Creighton’s Greg McDermott reinstated for Big East Tournament"

[reef]

Season tickets renewals are likely to be down for next season due to the virus...it will likely still be too early to go back to normal...and even if it was, a lot of people will be hesitant to go not just because of the virus, but because we will suck again.

I'm in next year suck or not. That's being a true fan. You root for your team through thick and thin. Ever since walking on the uri campus and going to my first game at keaney in 1976 I switched allegiance from the dreaded black and white to keaney blue.. have seen many teams that suck but going to the games with my wife is something we both look forward to and will hopefully be able to get back to in November. Even if it means wearing a ..

This was me in the fall of 1986 10 years later my first game was at Keaney we played Penn St and jumped to a 22-3 lead this was Garrick’s and Owens JR season and Penders first year and I was hooked forever

[NYGFan_Section208]

I think they should make Fatts the head coach!

Been there, done that?
<ETA: Posted before I read blueman's post>

[Blue Man]

Watching Bryant I think I’d be out on Grasso.

It’s Iona under Cluess. Fun story, rooting for them, but a lot of chuck and pray with a zone D.

I’m only half kidding when I say I’d love Tammi Reiss.

[PeterRamTime]

Watching Bryant I think I’d be out on Grasso.

It’s Iona under Cluess. Fun story, rooting for them, but a lot of chuck and pray with a zone D.

I’m only half kidding when I say I’d love Tammi Reiss.

Agreed.

How about that big guy in the middle for MT St Marys.

Let's trade JH for him...

[rambone 78]

Watching Bryant I think I’d be out on Grasso.

It’s Iona under Cluess. Fun story, rooting for them, but a lot of chuck and pray with a zone D.

I’m only half kidding when I say I’d love Tammi Reiss.

Agreed.

How about that big guy in the middle for MT St Marys.

Let's trade JH for him...

If I was on a search committee for our next coach, the first thing I would require would be someone who can and does run excellent half court offense.

I am sick and tired of watching URI teams stand around on offense and chuck and duck like Blue Man just said.

[PeterRamTime]

Watching Bryant I think I’d be out on Grasso.

It’s Iona under Cluess. Fun story, rooting for them, but a lot of chuck and pray with a zone D.

I’m only half kidding when I say I’d love Tammi Reiss.

Agreed.

How about that big guy in the middle for MT St Marys.

Let's trade JH for him...

If I was on a search committee for our next coach, the first thing I would require would be someone who can and does run excellent half court offense.

I am sick and tired of watching URI teams stand around on offense and chuck and duck like Blue Man just said.

Yes. No more iso and die!

[rambone 78]

It's almost like a requirement that URI teams play shit half court offense and miss too many FT's. Especially when trying to protect a late lead.

That happened even with Hurley a few too many times.

[reef]

I wonder if Grasso takes Fordham job if offered ??

[Rhodyhooopz]

Yea after watching last night I'm out on Grasso.

[RhowdyRam02]

I wonder if Grasso takes Fordham job if offered ??

He shouldn't. That job will be a dead end until they move down and with what he's got coming back he can have another good year at that level and should be in line for better jobs

[rhodylaw]

Agreed.

How about that big guy in the middle for MT St Marys.

Let's trade JH for him...

If I was on a search committee for our next coach, the first thing I would require would be someone who can and does run excellent half court offense.

I am sick and tired of watching URI teams stand around on offense and chuck and duck like Blue Man just said.

Yes. No more iso and die!

Honestly this is what I expected from Cox. He was going to take the Hurley D and improve on the offensive side. What we have gotten is a confusingly poor offense (at least Hurley ran some sets) and worse D. NOW, I do not know how much of the failure on offense is personnel related. You need guys committed to moving the ball in the positionless offense Cox did trying to run and as much as I love Fatts, you can’t really make the switches with a guy who is under 6 feet. A bunch of guards and wings who can handle the ball outside, bang inside, shoot well and have good instincts are needed for this to run correctly. In the last game against Dayton there was a missed play where DJ cut for what would have been an open alley-oop from Makhel. Pass was a little high but I think that is the kind of looks we should be able to get in this positionless offense.

[rambone 78]

I can't believe that most of our players are that dumb, that they can't run a motion offense with multiple sets.

The BB IQ question is there though....we haven't had many guards that can "see the floor"....mostly we've had the type that puts their heads down and try to drive to the hoop, leaving others wide open spectators. Obviously Jeff was an exception, and Ish shows promise.

Many teams have a bunch of athletes but not basketball players. But it's still up to the coach to get them to execute....

[PeterRamTime]

If I was on a search committee for our next coach, the first thing I would require would be someone who can and does run excellent half court offense.

I am sick and tired of watching URI teams stand around on offense and chuck and duck like Blue Man just said.

Yes. No more iso and die!

Honestly this is what I expected from Cox. He was going to take the Hurley D and improve on the offensive side. What we have gotten is a confusingly poor offense (at least Hurley ran some sets) and worse D. NOW, I do not know how much of the failure on offense is personnel related. You need guys committed to moving the ball in the positionless offense Cox did trying to run and as much as I love Fatts, you can’t really make the switches with a guy who is under 6 feet. A bunch of guards and wings who can handle the ball outside, bang inside, shoot well and have good instincts are needed for this to run correctly. In the last game against Dayton there was a missed play where DJ cut for what would have been an open alley-oop from Makhel. Pass was a little high but I think that is the kind of looks we should be able to get in this positionless offense.

There have definitely been some nice moments under Cox. But the motion never lasts because we are so inconsistent. Constantly switching which guards run the offense.

[daytonflyerfan]

This has probably already been mentioned, but if Cox gets fired eventually, then I think you have to start looking at Thorr as being part of the problem for hiring the wrong person. But, Thorr did hire Hurley, so I guess Thorr gets a mulligan.

[RhowdyRam02]

This has probably already been mentioned, but if Cox gets fired eventually, then I think you have to start looking at Thorr as being part of the problem for hiring the wrong person. But, Thorr did hire Hurley, so I guess Thorr gets a mulligan.

Hiring Cox was not only completely defensible, it was probably the right move. The wrong move is keeping him after this year when we know who he is at this point. You can't give a first time coach who has shown no growth a big leash, you have to be ready to cut bait on that hire when it goes south, like it has here

[ramster]

This has probably already been mentioned, but if Cox gets fired eventually, then I think you have to start looking at Thorr as being part of the problem for hiring the wrong person. But, Thorr did hire Hurley, so I guess Thorr gets a mulligan.

He hired Tammi Reiss who just took URI from #11 preseason poll to #4. Coach of the year in A10.
In just her second year for all those who think you need to give 4 years to a coach.

[PeterRamTime]

This has probably already been mentioned, but if Cox gets fired eventually, then I think you have to start looking at Thorr as being part of the problem for hiring the wrong person. But, Thorr did hire Hurley, so I guess Thorr gets a mulligan.

Hiring Cox was not only completely defensible, it was probably the right move. The wrong move is keeping him after this year when we know who he is at this point. You can't give a first time coach who has shown no growth a big leash, you have to be ready to cut bait on that hire when it goes south, like it has here

CUT BAIT

Lol

Yeah he easily made the most sense.

He understood the culture. Was going to maintain the recruiting class.

You just hope that when he is fired the next coach doesn't have a bare cupboard day one.

[Rhodymob05]

Thorr was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[reef]

This has probably already been mentioned, but if Cox gets fired eventually, then I think you have to start looking at Thorr as being part of the problem for hiring the wrong person. But, Thorr did hire Hurley, so I guess Thorr gets a mulligan.

Hiring Cox was not only completely defensible, it was probably the right move. The wrong move is keeping him after this year when we know who he is at this point. You can't give a first time coach who has shown no growth a big leash, you have to be ready to cut bait on that hire when it goes south, like it has here

My thoughts also I was for the hire at first I felt the continuity was important but now I feel he is not good for the job so the sooner he goes the better it will be