Covid-19 Effect on College Basketball & Other Sports

[bigappleram]

My guess is that they'll approach this like restaurants. They will ensure everyone is adequately distanced to comply with the social distance requirements so they won't require people to wear their masks while in their seats. My guess is the masks are worn only while away from your seats which is a significantly less amount of time than the amount of time spent in seats watching the games.

I wear my mask and stay away from people because I know I'm not an infectious disease expert but the infectious disease experts all say that staying 6ft apart and wearing a mask is the right thing to do, so I listen. I won't fall into Dunning-Kruger and think I know more than I do about this topic to where I question the people who have worked in that field for 30+ years.

Great take, if you do only 1 thing in a public health crisis I would advise it be listening to doctors and not politicians. Lack of a national mitigation strategy grounded in science and common sense could have replaced the all over shut down measures and also prevented death. Instead we had a calamity of errors from the federal and local officials whose job it is to lead their constituents through difficult situations. I don't quite get the "there are only XXX number of deaths, we overreacted" crowd. No dummy there are only XXX number of deaths because we acted responsibly and sensibly when that was the only option on the table. Or we could have thrown caution to the wind and willingly allowed a lot of elderly and compromised people to die, probably to the tune of an additional hundreds of thousands of deaths. That's not a country I would want to live in.

[PeteRI]

[quote=NYGFan_Section208 post_id=454457 time=1590436128 user_i
Just met up with my 2 veteran buddies and their wives at the Black Pearl in Newport for drinks and food to celebrate fallen soldiers we knew and didn't. We had a great time. Although, since only 5 to a table, we had the wives at one and the guys at another. Complete lunacy. People were laughing as we were talking to our wives at the other table.

Are you saying occasionally separating husbands from their wives is a bad thing?

[rhodylaw]

My guess is that they'll approach this like restaurants. They will ensure everyone is adequately distanced to comply with the social distance requirements so they won't require people to wear their masks while in their seats. My guess is the masks are worn only while away from your seats which is a significantly less amount of time than the amount of time spent in seats watching the games.

I wear my mask and stay away from people because I know I'm not an infectious disease expert but the infectious disease experts all say that staying 6ft apart and wearing a mask is the right thing to do, so I listen. I won't fall into Dunning-Kruger and think I know more than I do about this topic to where I question the people who have worked in that field for 30+ years.

Great take, if you do only 1 thing in a public health crisis I would advise it be listening to doctors and not politicians. Lack of a national mitigation strategy grounded in science and common sense could have replaced the all over shut down measures and also prevented death. Instead we had a calamity of errors from the federal and local officials whose job it is to lead their constituents through difficult situations. I don't quite get the "there are only XXX number of deaths, we overreacted" crowd. No dummy there are only XXX number of deaths because we acted responsibly and sensibly when that was the only option on the table. Or we could have thrown caution to the wind and willingly allowed a lot of elderly and compromised people to die, probably to the tune of an additional hundreds of thousands of deaths. That's not a country I would want to live in.

I HATE the listen to Doctors and SCIENCE crowd. Trust me, most of the doctors and scientists you hear from are thinly veiled politicians with agendas that may or may not match yours. Question any "scientist" posting on the internet because most of those people are really loud, controlling people who happened to pay for a degree in SCIENCE. I quit the scientific ranks over 20 years ago when I figured that out and knew that I did not fit their agenda. Science is not an absolute the way it is spoken of and these people do not have all the answers. I do not bow down to science with god-like reverence. This is not to say all scientists and doctors are purposeful charlatans, it is just impossible to know the person who is behind the number manipulations. You can take the same data set and interpret it in so many ways, and the way most scientists interpret that data is 100% influenced by their pre-conceived notions and more and more in the last 20 years their political background.

COMMON SENSE is what should control decisions you make. We know about virus spread, it happens all the time we just don't have an immunity to this virus yet. Yes we should have shut down for awhile, yes we should haven taken better precautions to protect elderly and yes everyone should wear a mask in crowded buildings for awhile to slow the spread.

[Rhody15]

I’ll tell ya what, I’m much more inclined to listen to doctors and scientists than the hardos and tough guys on this board who aren’t really qualified to give advice: those who talk like this virus is basically a hoax, it’s not a big deal, and think things should go back to complete normal pre mid March.

[RhodyKyle]

I’ll tell ya what, I’m much more inclined to listen to doctors and scientists than the hardos and tough guys on this board who aren’t really qualified to give advice: those who talk like this virus is basically a hoax, it’s not a big deal, and think things should go back to complete normal pre mid March.

This is well-said.

These people are trying to take the moral high ground while shitting on people for wearing masks. These people think wearing a mask makes people sheep when in reality not wearing one because you think it's a hoax/liberal agenda is what makes you a sheep.

[NHRamFan]

So, would this be considered "political-talk light?" Asking for a friend who would love to comment.....

[bigappleram]

My guess is that they'll approach this like restaurants. They will ensure everyone is adequately distanced to comply with the social distance requirements so they won't require people to wear their masks while in their seats. My guess is the masks are worn only while away from your seats which is a significantly less amount of time than the amount of time spent in seats watching the games.

I wear my mask and stay away from people because I know I'm not an infectious disease expert but the infectious disease experts all say that staying 6ft apart and wearing a mask is the right thing to do, so I listen. I won't fall into Dunning-Kruger and think I know more than I do about this topic to where I question the people who have worked in that field for 30+ years.

Great take, if you do only 1 thing in a public health crisis I would advise it be listening to doctors and not politicians. Lack of a national mitigation strategy grounded in science and common sense could have replaced the all over shut down measures and also prevented death. Instead we had a calamity of errors from the federal and local officials whose job it is to lead their constituents through difficult situations. I don't quite get the "there are only XXX number of deaths, we overreacted" crowd. No dummy there are only XXX number of deaths because we acted responsibly and sensibly when that was the only option on the table. Or we could have thrown caution to the wind and willingly allowed a lot of elderly and compromised people to die, probably to the tune of an additional hundreds of thousands of deaths. That's not a country I would want to live in.

I HATE the listen to Doctors and SCIENCE crowd. Trust me, most of the doctors and scientists you hear from are thinly veiled politicians with agendas that may or may not match yours. Question any "scientist" posting on the internet because most of those people are really loud, controlling people who happened to pay for a degree in SCIENCE. I quit the scientific ranks over 20 years ago when I figured that out and knew that I did not fit their agenda. Science is not an absolute the way it is spoken of and these people do not have all the answers. I do not bow down to science with god-like reverence. This is not to say all scientists and doctors are purposeful charlatans, it is just impossible to know the person who is behind the number manipulations. You can take the same data set and interpret it in so many ways, and the way most scientists interpret that data is 100% influenced by their pre-conceived notions and more and more in the last 20 years their political background.

COMMON SENSE is what should control decisions you make. We know about virus spread, it happens all the time we just don't have an immunity to this virus yet. Yes we should have shut down for awhile, yes we should haven taken better precautions to protect elderly and yes everyone should wear a mask in crowded buildings for awhile to slow the spread.

Everyone has an agenda, or self interest in life, including you. But I'm more inclined to trust Fauci who has worked across 6 different administrations, both Dems and Repubs, than any politician trying to win a popularity contest and play to their base. There are too many quacks in science and medicine occupying the twittersphere right now and I would agree to steer clear of them.

[LoveThoseRams]

Governor is allowing youth sports to start up in RI next week, with groups of no more than 15.

Seems to me that should open the doors to athletes getting back together for workouts at URI if they can start to open campus.

[bigappleram]

Governor is allowing youth sports to start up in RI next week, with groups of no more than 15.

Seems to me that should open the doors to athletes getting back together for workouts at URI if they can start to open campus.

It baffles my mind that youth sports are going to start before the professionals have even gotten back.

[79RhodyFan]

Governor is allowing youth sports to start up in RI next week, with groups of no more than 15.

Seems to me that should open the doors to athletes getting back together for workouts at URI if they can start to open campus.

It baffles my mind that youth sports are going to start before the professionals have even gotten back.

Youth sports are easier to start because you don't have 60,000 spectators watching the games. Its much easier to socially distance 20 parents then a stadium full of fans.

[Running Ram]

I certainly wouldn't disregard the analysis of a life long disease specialist that still performs real science. Doctors that haven't been scientists since college are another story. Anyway, it's important to realize the science is in the results. When experts make recommendations it is based on knowledge of former results of similar parameters, there is still conjecture involved, I only say this to say that experts are humans and they "make calls" so to say, but if I'm betting, I'm betting with the people who have been immersed in the field and the science. And that's all I have to say about that.

[Rhody74]

https://www.providencejournal.com/sport ... ity-sports

The study that led to this started before the pandemic but I’m sure it didn’t help.

[RF1]

Brown announces an overhaul of its athletics dept. Will transition ELEVEN varsity programs to club status - men's and women’s fencing; men's and women’s golf; women’s skiing; men's and women’s squash; women’s equestrian; and men’s track, field and cross country (which are three varsity sports under federal Title IX rules governing access to opportunities in sports).


New initiative to reshape, improve competitiveness in Brown varsity and club athletics
https://www.brown.edu/news/2020-05-28/a ... excellence

[SGreenwell]

In a way, I think the pandemic is kind of forcing a lot of organization's hands, whether it is colleges evaluating the long-term prognosis of sports, newspaper chains consolidating staff and papers further, or the house of debt propping up airlines and rental car companies finally collapsing.

The last thing is what actually has me most worried - For years now, companies have been propping up their own stock prices even while by taking on more debt and doing buybacks, because lending rates have been low. As a certain point, more bubbles like Hertz are going to "pop" - on the newspaper side, Gannett/Gatehouse is a fucking mess with almost no chance of making their loan payments in the future, Sports Illustrated has already been gutted, and there are tons of retailers in situations similar to J.C. Penny and Toys R Us. The market is going to have to reflect reality at some point... probably.

[bigappleram]

Governor is allowing youth sports to start up in RI next week, with groups of no more than 15.

Seems to me that should open the doors to athletes getting back together for workouts at URI if they can start to open campus.

It baffles my mind that youth sports are going to start before the professionals have even gotten back.

Youth sports are easier to start because you don't have 60,000 spectators watching the games. Its much easier to socially distance 20 parents then a stadium full of fans.

MLB and NBA are both talking about restarting but not with fans, so the fan experience isn't the issue its pretty much accepted that at least in the short term there wont be fans in arenas/stadiums.

[PeteRI]

Brown announces an overhaul of its athletics dept. Will transition ELEVEN varsity programs to club status - men's and women’s fencing; men's and women’s golf; women’s skiing; men's and women’s squash; women’s equestrian; and men’s track, field and cross country (which are three varsity sports under federal Title IX rules governing access to opportunities in sports).


New initiative to reshape, improve competitiveness in Brown varsity and club athletics
https://www.brown.edu/news/2020-05-28/a ... excellence

Wait ... women's fencing is no longer a varsity program?! Oh the humanity!!!!

[phipsiGD'11]

Governor is allowing youth sports to start up in RI next week, with groups of no more than 15.

Seems to me that should open the doors to athletes getting back together for workouts at URI if they can start to open campus.

It baffles my mind that youth sports are going to start before the professionals have even gotten back.

There are no unions to deal with, and no billionaire owners. I'm surprised the pro's are even as close as is being reported.

Don't be surprised if charter and private schools are back before public schools this fall also.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Brown announces an overhaul of its athletics dept. Will transition ELEVEN varsity programs to club status - men's and women’s fencing; men's and women’s golf; women’s skiing; men's and women’s squash; women’s equestrian; and men’s track, field and cross country (which are three varsity sports under federal Title IX rules governing access to opportunities in sports).


New initiative to reshape, improve competitiveness in Brown varsity and club athletics
https://www.brown.edu/news/2020-05-28/a ... excellence

Wait ... women's fencing is no longer a varsity program?! Oh the humanity!!!!

Perfect sport for the times. Mask, helmet, gloves...and if anyone gets within 6 feet of you...you stab them.

[hrstrat57]

Just saw Brown AD on news. Cutting of programs not covid19 related. Redistribution of funds to make remaining D1 programs more competitive.

[Ramulous]

Men’s track is a Title IX casualty.

[theblueram]

I’ll tell ya what, I’m much more inclined to listen to doctors and scientists than the hardos and tough guys on this board who aren’t really qualified to give advice: those who talk like this virus is basically a hoax, it’s not a big deal, and think things should go back to complete normal pre mid March.

So the scientists who said don't wear masks in Feb-March but now say wear masks? You listen to that nonsense? OK.

[Rhody15]

I’ll tell ya what, I’m much more inclined to listen to doctors and scientists than the hardos and tough guys on this board who aren’t really qualified to give advice: those who talk like this virus is basically a hoax, it’s not a big deal, and think things should go back to complete normal pre mid March.

So the scientists who said don't wear masks in Feb-March but now say wear masks? You listen to that nonsense? OK.

No single human has ever had this virus, so there was literally nothing to study / history of how humans can spread this exact virus. So after it was in the population and studied and analyzed, it was determined wearing masks would be beneficial, hence why they started saying wear one.

But keep puffing your chest out and being a hardo and stubborn enough to stay home to watch the upcoming season because of a piece of cloth / complain when you lose your season tickets. Whatever floats your boat.

[NYGFan_Section208]

I’ll tell ya what, I’m much more inclined to listen to doctors and scientists than the hardos and tough guys on this board who aren’t really qualified to give advice: those who talk like this virus is basically a hoax, it’s not a big deal, and think things should go back to complete normal pre mid March.

So the scientists who said don't wear masks in Feb-March but now say wear masks? You listen to that nonsense? OK.

No single human has ever had this virus, so there was literally nothing to study / history of how humans can spread this exact virus. So after it was in the population and studied and analyzed, it was determined wearing masks would be beneficial, hence why they started saying wear one.

But keep puffing your chest out and being a hardo and stubborn enough to stay home to watch the upcoming season because of a piece of cloth / complain when you lose your season tickets. Whatever floats your boat.

I don't think "studied and analyzed" is the reason we went from 'don't need one' in Feb - Mar to 'now you need one'. It's been pretty well-publicized that the reason they downplayed the need early on was so that healthcare worker supplies wouldn't be hoarded elsewhere. So...there was 'motive-influence' to that guidance...and now that that has happened, seems reasonable to question everyone and everything on this...

[theblueram]

I’ll tell ya what, I’m much more inclined to listen to doctors and scientists than the hardos and tough guys on this board who aren’t really qualified to give advice: those who talk like this virus is basically a hoax, it’s not a big deal, and think things should go back to complete normal pre mid March.

So the scientists who said don't wear masks in Feb-March but now say wear masks? You listen to that nonsense? OK.

No single human has ever had this virus, so there was literally nothing to study / history of how humans can spread this exact virus. So after it was in the population and studied and analyzed, it was determined wearing masks would be beneficial, hence why they started saying wear one.

But keep puffing your chest out and being a hardo and stubborn enough to stay home to watch the upcoming season because of a piece of cloth / complain when you lose your season tickets. Whatever floats your boat.

Coronavirus has been around longer than you've been alive. It's the second most common cause of a cold behind Rhinovirus.

[Rhody15]

I know coronavirus has been around forever, but this specific strain of it, COVID19, nobody has ever had.

[theblueram]

I know coronavirus has been around forever, but this specific strain of it, COVID19, nobody has ever had.

I get it. Just like really bad new strains of the flu that kill millions across the globe year to year. So why this time? Why this strain? Why has the world shut down for this strain that seems like a really, really bad flu? Why has the govt not segregated nursing home residents, who account for over 80% of deaths? Just an inquiring mind trying to find answers.

[URI96]

Not sports related but it does involve large indoor crowds in RI - PPAC has announced that it will not reopen until at least 2021. Will remain shuttered for the remaining seven months of 2020.

That's just insane. RI has what,597 deaths?????????? That's it. Less than 600 people have died from this in the state. Hell the state has normally over 700 deaths by accident per year. People have lost their minds. Usually around 500 deaths from Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease per year. Would love to see how many have died since January from CLRD.

Fewer than 600. At least use proper grammar with your outrageous takes.

[ramster]

From the NCAA

NCAA Approves Voluntary Activities for Football, Basketball Starting June 1
An NCAA vote Wednesday cleared the return of student-athletes to campus in football, men’s basketball and women’s basketball on June 1 through June 30, multiple sources told Yahoo Sports.
This decision ends a moratorium on all athletic activities through May 31.
Sources told Yahoo Sports that the Division I Council is expected to address sports other than football, men’s basketball and women’s basketball as soon as possible. That could take place within the next week.

[JimSidd]

I believe I heard that URI football players are set to return to campus on July 15.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

I know coronavirus has been around forever, but this specific strain of it, COVID19, nobody has ever had.

I get it. Just like really bad new strains of the flu that kill millions across the globe year to year. So why this time? Why this strain? Why has the world shut down for this strain that seems like a really, really bad flu? Why has the govt not segregated nursing home residents, who account for over 80% of deaths? Just an inquiring mind trying to find answers.

Probably because of 101,000 American deaths in four months compared to maybe half as many flu deaths in a full year. And unlike the flu, there’s no scientifically proven treatment for covid-19. And unlike the flu, you can recover from covid-19 but be left with permanent major lung damage. And because of the heart troubles it’s causing in young, healthy people. Other than that, we’ve WAY overreacted. /s

[RF1]

The flu per statistics has killed approximately 37.5k Americans annually in the last decade. It did so with everyone all around the country going about their normal lives - going in to work, traveling, eating out in restaurants, regularly using mass transit, visiting family and friends, shopping, attending events with large crowds, etc...

Covid-19 has to date in just four months killed some 105K Americans. It has done so despite nearly the entire nation having been shut down for an extended period of time with people staying home and going out as little as possible.

It is absolutely insane for anyone to compare Covid-19 to the typical flu.

[Billyboy78]

This doesn't look like the flu to me...
https://elemental.medium.com/coronaviru ... 4032481ab2

[Rhody15]

🗣🗣🗣

Louder for the people in the back.

So many asinine and ignorant tough guy statements comparing it to the regular flu.

[theblueram]

I know coronavirus has been around forever, but this specific strain of it, COVID19, nobody has ever had.

I get it. Just like really bad new strains of the flu that kill millions across the globe year to year. So why this time? Why this strain? Why has the world shut down for this strain that seems like a really, really bad flu? Why has the govt not segregated nursing home residents, who account for over 80% of deaths? Just an inquiring mind trying to find answers.

Probably because of 101,000 American deaths in four months compared to maybe half as many flu deaths in a full year. And unlike the flu, there’s no scientifically proven treatment for covid-19. And unlike the flu, you can recover from covid-19 but be left with permanent major lung damage. And because of the heart troubles it’s causing in young, healthy people. Other than that, we’ve WAY overreacted. /s

Red, over 61,000 people died from the flu in 2018. Also, it's been 5 months. The first death was in February.

[theblueram]

Not sports related but it does involve large indoor crowds in RI - PPAC has announced that it will not reopen until at least 2021. Will remain shuttered for the remaining seven months of 2020.

That's just insane. RI has what,597 deaths?????????? That's it. Less than 600 people have died from this in the state. Hell the state has normally over 700 deaths by accident per year. People have lost their minds. Usually around 500 deaths from Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease per year. Would love to see how many have died since January from CLRD.

Fewer than 600. At least use proper grammar with your outrageous takes.

Send fewer than to a programmer and let me know what they say. Sorry your not analytical and can't comprehend the data staring you in the face. In 2018, over (or should it be more than ass) 61,000 people died from the flu. Nothing shut down. Nothing. So 40K more have died from this than the flu in 2018. And like the flu, most deaths are over age 65 with bad conditions.

[theblueram]

And just to vent even further, I was in line at Jerry's Hardware with about 15 people. But my daughter who has 20 kids in her class can't have a graduation? The crap going on with this is insane.

[section(105)]

.......today riding thru the Pier today, looked like the middle of July, not much 6 ft seen, even fewer masks......looked R.I. open 100% whether Queenia agrees or not......just an observation from the second lines.....

[URI_05]

That's just insane. RI has what,597 deaths?????????? That's it. Less than 600 people have died from this in the state. Hell the state has normally over 700 deaths by accident per year. People have lost their minds. Usually around 500 deaths from Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease per year. Would love to see how many have died since January from CLRD.

Fewer than 600. At least use proper grammar with your outrageous takes.

Send fewer than to a programmer and let me know what they say. Sorry your not analytical and can't comprehend the data staring you in the face. In 2018, over (or should it be more than ass) 61,000 people died from the flu. Nothing shut down. Nothing. So 40K more have died from this than the flu in 2018. And like the flu, most deaths are over age 65 with bad conditions.

As a programmer I’d say fewer is grammatically correct. Comparing covid to the flu while cherry picking stats in every damn thread is getting really tiring.

It’s not the flu and anyone with half a brain can see the difference.

[steviep123]

That's just insane. RI has what,597 deaths?????????? That's it. Less than 600 people have died from this in the state. Hell the state has normally over 700 deaths by accident per year. People have lost their minds. Usually around 500 deaths from Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease per year. Would love to see how many have died since January from CLRD.

Fewer than 600. At least use proper grammar with your outrageous takes.

Send fewer than to a programmer and let me know what they say. Sorry your not analytical and can't comprehend the data staring you in the face. In 2018, over (or should it be more than ass) 61,000 people died from the flu. Nothing shut down. Nothing. So 40K more have died from this than the flu in 2018. And like the flu, most deaths are over age 65 with bad conditions.

The flu isn’t a threat to overwhelm hospitals and isn’t normally as contagious. This is the whole point of the lockdown- to flatten the curve. So people who need care won’t be unnecessarily turned away. It sucks that so many people died from either.

[RAM67]

I get it. Just like really bad new strains of the flu that kill millions across the globe year to year. So why this time? Why this strain? Why has the world shut down for this strain that seems like a really, really bad flu? Why has the govt not segregated nursing home residents, who account for over 80% of deaths? Just an inquiring mind trying to find answers.

Probably because of 101,000 American deaths in four months compared to maybe half as many flu deaths in a full year. And unlike the flu, there’s no scientifically proven treatment for covid-19. And unlike the flu, you can recover from covid-19 but be left with permanent major lung damage. And because of the heart troubles it’s causing in young, healthy people. Other than that, we’ve WAY overreacted. /s

Red, over 61,000 people died from the flu in 2018. Also, it's been 5 months. The first death was in February.

February......March.......April.........May....................................................................................................but who's counting.
Keep up the re-election bullshit.

[Rhody15]

I get it. Just like really bad new strains of the flu that kill millions across the globe year to year. So why this time? Why this strain? Why has the world shut down for this strain that seems like a really, really bad flu? Why has the govt not segregated nursing home residents, who account for over 80% of deaths? Just an inquiring mind trying to find answers.

Probably because of 101,000 American deaths in four months compared to maybe half as many flu deaths in a full year. And unlike the flu, there’s no scientifically proven treatment for covid-19. And unlike the flu, you can recover from covid-19 but be left with permanent major lung damage. And because of the heart troubles it’s causing in young, healthy people. Other than that, we’ve WAY overreacted. /s

Red, over 61,000 people died from the flu in 2018. Also, it's been 5 months. The first death was in February.

Last time I checked, February, March, April, May was 4 months. Not 5.

Also, you saying 61K people died of the flu in all of 2018 (12 months) is weakening the point you’re trying to make when 100K+ have died of COVID in 4 months.

[Billyboy78]

Yeah, but as he said, most of the deaths are old people like me. Who needs us?

[RF1]

Yeah, but as he said, most of the deaths are old people like me. Who needs us?

Apparently, for some, the lives of older Americans don't really matter as much as others. They deem them as perfectly expendable.

[URI_05]

Living in CT I personally know 6 people who’ve had it so far.

One of the guys in my firehouse, in his 20’s, finally recovered after 7 weeks. Three friends in their 30’s, one had no symptoms, one was sick for a month and thought he was going to die and the third had a pulmonary embolism and is now on blood thinners. The last two are in their sixties and were diagnosed last week.

This shit isn’t a joke and it triggers me when people continue to compare it to the flu. I have plenty of conservative friends who take it seriously, but most of them are in healthcare or the fire department. This shouldn’t be political, it’s a virus.

[PeterRamTime]

Yeah, but as he said, most of the deaths are old people like me. Who needs us?

Apparently, for some, the lives of older Americans don't really matter as much as others. They deem them as perfectly expendable.

Most of the deaths are much older than you guys!
Assuming you're in your 60's.

Yeah I'm not seeing anything anywhere where people actually want people to die.

Thats just another bullshit talking point thats been recycled too many times.

What I do see are people questioning how deadly the virus really is and whether or not what we are doing is still necessary.

I dont support the conspiracy theories. The deep state nonsense.

42 percent of the freaking deaths are from nursing homes though! You aren't people who can't take care of yourselves and have lost their minds.
https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing ... 47433c3f70

Did they die of covid? Or did they die because theyre like 93 years old??? Were they actually tested or assumed to have died FROM covid. Or did they die WITH covid? Two very different things.

In Colorado they took off 272 deaths.
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2 ... 198485002/

How could the data be THAT far off? That's insane. If its that far off in Colorado it's that far off almost everywhere. Deaths WITH and FROM are very different things.

The real question is why couldn't they protect nursing homes better? Why did they have to send sick people back into the nursing homes? Maybe they had no other choice.

Its even rare for 60 year olds to die from this.

I dont blame us for locking down initially, but it makes zero sense anymore and we are remaining locked down to save who?? People in nursing homes that are dying anyway????

Is it still worth it anymore when suicide rates are skyrocketing?
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/ ... isis-covid

I've had to deal with this with my own father recently and it pisses me off. He's 66 and yes, his life is more valuable than a 91 year old who has dementia.

Its gotten out of hand. Its literally killing people and at the very least compromising health big time, since people haven't been going to the hospital for other ussues.

I also know several health care professionals that are skeptical of all this and think we should open up. One of them is a nurse in NYC. One of them is a pulmonologist. I guess they're just radical right wingers though! Anybody who questions this is just automatically some extremist. Sure. Yeah.

Now we have people protesting everywhere NOT social distancing. Media doesn't care. And ya know what. All those people arent going to die and probably won't even get sick. The south has been practically open for a month or so now and nothing is happening. The only reason there are significant spikes is because we are testing more.
I was in Nashville a week or two ago and people were not wearing masks much and weren't really social distancing. Has their been a spike? No.

Of course it can be bad. It can be deadly. We have to be careful. We did flatten the curve though. A long time ago. That was the original goal and we did it. Our hospitals are waaaay more prepared.
Open up. Wear a mask if you want. If you're scared stay home. We will be fine and we will actually SAVE LIVES. Let's keep people from killing themselves and clear up the data. Who died WITH it compared to who died FROM it.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Living in CT I personally know 6 people who’ve had it so far.

One of the guys in my firehouse, in his 20’s, finally recovered after 7 weeks. Three friends in their 30’s, one had no symptoms, one was sick for a month and thought he was going to die and the third had a pulmonary embolism and is now on blood thinners. The last two are in their sixties and were diagnosed last week.

This shit isn’t a joke and it triggers me when people continue to compare it to the flu. I have plenty of conservative friends who take it seriously, but most of them are in healthcare or the fire department. This shouldn’t be political, it’s a virus.

Agree, it shouldn't be political. But, unfortunately...until there is a clear scientific path (there isn't one now), it probably will be.

[NHRamFan]

Topic: COVID-19 Effect on ….Sports

This continues to veer off course; it's inevitable, considering that we are all experts, having slept in a Holiday Inn Express and being such diligent scrapers of all things Facebook, YouTube, etc. Having already been "keystroke deleted" once on this thread, may I suggest to the moderators that you either change the title to something like COVID-19 Discussion and move it to another area on KB, or wipe this thread clean.

I have typed and deleted messages numerous times in response to some of the inane statements made here, and I'm not sure how much longer I can keep myself from hitting the Submit button...

[ramster]

Topic: COVID-19 Effect on ….Sports

This continues to veer off course; it's inevitable, considering that we are all experts, having slept in a Holiday Inn Express and being such diligent scrapers of all things Facebook, YouTube, etc. Having already been "keystroke deleted" once on this thread, may I suggest to the moderators that you either change the title to something like COVID-19 Discussion and move it to another area on KB, or wipe this thread clean.

I have typed and deleted messages numerous times in response to some of the inane statements made here, and I'm not sure how much longer I can keep myself from hitting the Submit button...

Agreed
Mods please move this to Down the Line where other Covid threads were properly started in the first place.
Plus politics Should not be allowed in KB.

[theblueram]

Fewer than 600. At least use proper grammar with your outrageous takes.

Send fewer than to a programmer and let me know what they say. Sorry your not analytical and can't comprehend the data staring you in the face. In 2018, over (or should it be more than ass) 61,000 people died from the flu. Nothing shut down. Nothing. So 40K more have died from this than the flu in 2018. And like the flu, most deaths are over age 65 with bad conditions.

As a programmer I’d say fewer is grammatically correct. Comparing covid to the flu while cherry picking stats in every damn thread is getting really tiring.

It’s not the flu and anyone with half a brain can see the difference.

So when an analyst sends you a statement, and says < , do you interpret that as fewer than? Prob not, but your just trying to make a point I guess. I've been doing my job for 30 years and never, not once did I send a programmer a statement that said fewer than or equal to.Never. Always less than or equal to. Anyway, seems Covid is over as the media has a new toy to play with in the riots happening across the metro cities.

[theblueram]

Probably because of 101,000 American deaths in four months compared to maybe half as many flu deaths in a full year. And unlike the flu, there’s no scientifically proven treatment for covid-19. And unlike the flu, you can recover from covid-19 but be left with permanent major lung damage. And because of the heart troubles it’s causing in young, healthy people. Other than that, we’ve WAY overreacted. /s

Red, over 61,000 people died from the flu in 2018. Also, it's been 5 months. The first death was in February.

Last time I checked, February, March, April, May was 4 months. Not 5.

Also, you saying 61K people died of the flu in all of 2018 (12 months) is weakening the point you’re trying to make when 100K+ have died of COVID in 4 months.

Sorry, the flu season is Nov to Apr. It's only 6 months long.