General Recruiting Discussion/Comments 2022 and before

[Billyboy78]

Sources: Nike has cancelled both spring live recruiting periods for men's basketball. EYBL Session 1 (Indianapolis, April 17-19) and Session 2 (Atlanta, April 24-26).

[FDshoes]

People are entering the transfer portal at an insane rate today. Not a fan of this current day atmosphere of CBB. With all these transfers its ruining what college ball is suppose to be about.

[rambone 78]

Trying to keep this team together could be a big challenge for Cox.

Keeping fingers crossed.

[Rhody83]

I don’t know if this is confirmed or not but on March 12th we offered Abou Ousmane a PF (according to Verbal Commits) who is on the same team as Tres Berry who I believe someone saying that Todd Quarles from Expressions told our assistants to go after him

Correct and correct.

[rambone 78]

With recruiting visits on hold until April 15th.....

That happens to be the start of the spring signing period.

If that doesn't change, then if we are in the lead for Akeem and Berry, and they can't visit anywhere else, I think that would increase our chances of landing them.

[Billyboy78]

Where would these guys be ranked as far as ....1.Talent...2.The likelihood that they come to Kingston?......The Mitchell twins, Odusipe, Richards, Hima, Ousmani.

[PeterRamTime]

Where would these guys be ranked as far as ....1.Talent...2.The likelihood that they come to Kingston?......The Mitchell twins, Odusipe, Richards, Hima, Ousmani.

You'd have to think the Mitchell twins would be our best bet.

[giovanni]

[Rhody83]

A member of the URI staff said the recruitment of transfers is becoming more important now to building a roster than the recruitment of high school seniors.

[ramster]

No doubt. The game is changing a lot with no sit out 1 year penalty.
And not changing for the better

[Rhody83]

No doubt. The game is changing a lot with no sit out 1 year penalty.
And not changing for the better

Even if the no sit out doesn’t pass.
There is no patience being used by players.
When they don’t get immediate results people around them (family, former coaches, friends) start to encourage that they consider transferring.

[SandorClegane]

It’s overwhelming being a fan and trying to keep tabs on all the recruits and transfers. I can’t imagine the whirlwind it puts on staffs with the new (potential) transfer rules.

[ramster]

No doubt. The game is changing a lot with no sit out 1 year penalty.
And not changing for the better

Even if the no sit out doesn’t pass.
There is no patience being used by players.
When they don’t get immediate results people around them (family, former coaches, friends) start to encourage that they consider transferring.

For sure.
It started with the very easy grad year and 5th year transfers. We rarely had this in the past.
One and done brutal on the top teams. Kentucky, Duke, UNC, etc bring in players knowing they will play only 1 year.
Letting players move closer to home, family illness, homesickness, etc with no sit out penalty and doing it inconsistently in both basketball and football

Players wanting to move even with a year to sit out

The transfer rule will go in this year. No sit out. It’s that way in all NCAA sports except basketball and football

James Wiseman situation this year at Memphis.

Lawyers are lining up at the NCAA door. That have to change

But the college game is being ruined. My favorite sport but it’s going downhill fast. Absolutely horrible ncaa leadership.

[Iggy1979]

A member of the URI staff said the recruitment of transfers is becoming more important now to building a roster than the recruitment of high school seniors.

I would say at least equally important. Without Iverson and Stan URI doesn’t dance

[Rhody83]

A member of the URI staff said the recruitment of transfers is becoming more important now to building a roster than the recruitment of high school seniors.

I would say at least equally important. Without Iverson and Stan URI doesn’t dance

And the staff members point was that a lot has changed in the last three years. So since KI and Stan the movement has become even more important.

[TruePoint]

I’m still very torn about the transfer rule. On the one hand, I feel like the athletes are being badly taken advantage of by a system in which they generate a ton of revenue that they don’t see, and I want to be pro-labor even though technically (and absurdly) they aren’t even labor. I’m also sympathetic to the idea that regular students can transfer at just about any time for any reason. So in theory I am in favor of any pro-player rule, which the free transfer rule definitely is.

On the other hand, if this goes as I anticipated (and it seems like it very much is so far), it will basically ruin the sport for me. I can’t possibly devote the time and energy to tracking all the player movements, and also the game will just lose some of the fraternal feel between alumni and players that makes college sports popular in the first place. When the players on the team are roaming mercenaries and not really connected to the school in a meaningful way, when I won’t be able to relate to the players thru the shared experience of having been a student at my school, it will fundamentally change how I think and feel about the players and therefore the program - and the sport as a whole.

I think this is likely to be a disaster for my fandom, although I’m willing to give it a shot. I still say the better answer would have just been to start letting players participate in the revenues generated by the sport while maintaining the traditional restrictions on movement. In that scenario, the players are being compensated for their being tied to a school, which addresses both my concerns: players being taken advantage of and unrestricted player movement ruining fans’ connections to the sport.

[Running Ram]

I'm with TP on this, I'm torn, players are the product and should have some means of control over their personal situations, but seriously the transfer thing is out of control as it is.

I think there is merit in my idea of one time immediate eligibility for transfers of players that have been with the same team for two seasons. If a player can't make it through his/her sophomore season they can transfer and sit a season or half season, which actually could help to level out transfer rates.

[ramster]

Rules should be equally applied. They are except for Football and Basketball.
Golf
Baseball
Softball
Track and Field
Cross Country
Hockey
Swimming and Diving
Lacrosse
Field Hockey
Soccer
Rowing
Tennis
Volleyball

Football
Basketball

No student athletes are paid

How legally should students be treated differently? Why should a student be allowed to transfer and play immediately except for football and basketball?

So the student athletes in Football and Basketball get different transfer rules because their schools and the NCAA make money in those sports?

Makes no sense legally.

Just have the same rules across the board. That is the fair thing to do. And it will avoid lawsuits current and future. The NCAA does a terrible job of applying the request for exceptions.

Plain, simple transfer rules across all sports.

Where the sports land they land.

[SmartyBarrett]

[Ramulous]

Because there is so much money involved in basketball and football I believe why they have been treated differently..

...pressure on coaches to win leads to bending and breaking of ethical rules....more outreach to players at other schools to ask them to transfer....not many players on the other sports would generate this interest....

...with immediate eligibility for transfers one barrier to poaching is eliminated...look at the competition for grad transfers.....they are being recruited like high school seniors now...

...shady coaches will always be shady coaches.....this gives them a bigger pond is which to fish....the trickle down effect will be devastating to schools lower on the food chain....

.....I'm torn about easing the rule.....

[rhodyruckus]

Shhh, nobody tell him the difference in temperature at our beaches vs those 2 other schools named...

[Rhody83]

[Rhody83]

[rhodyblue12]

Man, we can dream ..... He and Fatts would be ridiculous.

[Iggy1979]

Is it possible that Sutton recruited him at Pitt?

[Rhody83]

[Rhody15]

It's getting to the point where I can't really get excited for new recruits because the chances they stay all 4 years is slim.

[DeanDome88]

Will Rhody continue to focus on recruiting incoming freshman or will they start looking more to the transfer portal to add players?

[RamStock]

I think they have to adapt to the new ways with at least 2 transfers. Tough to predict what direction and they just need some good players at this point

[LoveThoseRams]

In this miserable surreal time, we all could use some good news. I'd love to see one of the recruits say they are committing to URI. That would make my day or week.

[Rhody83]

I think they have to adapt to the new ways with at least 2 transfers. Tough to predict what direction and they just need some good players at this point

I was told by a staff member that they are switching the priority to transfers going forward. This Spring maybe a transition from Fr recruits to transfer recruits with a mixture to fill this year’s open spots.

[reef]

I like the idea of a good mix get 2 or 3 quality frosh who hopefully won’t transfer and get at least 1 or 2 immediately eligible grad transfers who are ready to contribute??

[ramster]

Plus majority of 2020 class is committed anyway.

[rambone 78]

As I recall Dayton did pretty well recently with transfers.

It's the new reality for mid majors.

Can't get the 4 star freshman recruits? Wait for them to transfer...then you get experienced players who can contribute.

Of course you still have to get the "right" ones.

Some schools will strike gold, some won't.

[DevRam]

Dream scenario Mitchell Twins, Tres Berry and Malik Martin. Would have a combination of depth, 3pt shooting and post play. If we’re not pursuing Martin than hopefully we get a similar caliber player with his experience.

[UCH21377]

I think transfers will be a key, maybe the most important, part of recruiting going forward, for us and teams of our level.

[ramster]

6 new players next year and it’s only March.&;5,,

Croswell becomes the second offseason addition to Cooley’s roster after PC picked up a commitment from Syracuse transfer Brycen Goodine last week. If both are allowed to compete right away, they will join a list of returnees that includes Nate Watson, Noah Horchler, David Duke, A.J. Reeves, Kris Monroe, Jimmy Nichols, Jared Bynum and Greg Gantt.

Providence will also welcome two incoming freshman in guard Alyn Breed and forward Jyare Davis. Breed signed his National Letter of Intent last fall while Davis is slated to sign next month.

[SmartyBarrett]

I look forward to PC fans continuing to tweet at me that A-10 players couldn't hack it in the Big East.

[ramster]

The sad thing is Croswell was viewed as the best player on LaSalle. I read the LaSalle message board to see how they feel about losing him and it hurts.

Croswell had 18 rebounds and 24 points against a strong rebounding team in Saint Louis. Just a sophomore

I know players should be allowed to pack up and leave because coaches can pack up and leave with not sit out year, plus only Basketball and Football have the sit out year - ultimately lawyers will change it if NCAA doesn’t.
Plus it’s really a Big10 Developed Proposal/Plan for the transfer immediate eligibility for Football and Basketball - the NCAA didn’t even develop it. P5 running the show - ncaa is inept.

But the immediate transfer eligibility will change things dramatically.

Mid majors and low majors could become the G-League or Baseball Farm System for the P5

Think we are already seeing it - new rule in place in April most likely

[giovanni]

[rambone 78]

Pitino has done more result wise in one week than Cox has done in months.

That's the bottom line.

Face the facts, some of you.

[ramster]

[ramster]

I don’t think it will take Pitino 2 years
He’ll be ready in November

[ElmCityRhody]

Pitino has done more result wise in one week than Cox has done in months.

That's the bottom line.

Face the facts, some of you.

PITINO is the man

COX WAKE UP

[ElmCityRhody]

i wanted pitino last year.. faults and all

hence my "CUT BAIT"

now.. we flounder in mediocrity

[DC_Rams]

Pitino has done more result wise in one week than Cox has done in months.

That's the bottom line.

Face the facts, some of you.

Doombone,

Because his name is RICK FUCKING PITINO.

[ElmCityRhody]

exactly - you need the big name to get big time recruits

URI would have been having some fun winning w/ Rick Pitino

if only we offered him a job....

THINK BIG DO WE

[reef]

Pitino is a HOF and coached in the NBA also so players will definitely want to play there . Looks like he will own that conference for a couple of years ??

[wgracie99]

exactly - you need the big name to get big time recruits

URI would have been having some fun winning w/ Rick Pitino

if only we offered him a job....

THINK BIG DO WE

You don’t think a sweet 16 run by Iona next year
and he keeps himself clean that he wouldn’t bolt for a lower P5 team? I do and than all his recruits would transfer out and then where would Iona be? Maybe in the same place as now at best but would 1 sweet 16 run for us be worth it when our best players would be leaving not our bench guys like now?

[phipsiGD'11]

Has anyone heard what his buyout would be?
He said himself that it was comical how high the price was.