I like that - except VCU 8th.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years ago The predicted final standings (KenPom):
1. Dayton
2. Rhode Island
3. Richmond
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Davidson
6. Saint Louis
7. Duquesne
8. VCU
9. UMass
10. George Washington
11. La Salle
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joseph's
14. Fordham
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And that there are 4-5 huge games for each team to gomjg13x wrote: ↑4 years agoI like that - except VCU 8th.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years ago The predicted final standings (KenPom):
1. Dayton
2. Rhode Island
3. Richmond
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Davidson
6. Saint Louis
7. Duquesne
8. VCU
9. UMass
10. George Washington
11. La Salle
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joseph's
14. Fordham
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That's ideal, keep VCU on Dayton's side of the bracket.mjg13x wrote: ↑4 years agoI like that - except VCU 8th.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years ago The predicted final standings (KenPom):
1. Dayton
2. Rhode Island
3. Richmond
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Davidson
6. Saint Louis
7. Duquesne
8. VCU
9. UMass
10. George Washington
11. La Salle
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joseph's
14. Fordham
Best case is get Duquesne in the quarters, I don't want St Louis, VCU, or Davidson.
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The St. Bonaventure loss at home to Duquesne last night makes it much more likely that URI will at worst be the 3rd seed in the A-10 Tournament. There had been a possible scenario whereby URI could have been tied with both Richmond and SBU for 2nd place but lost the tiebreakers and been assigned the #4 seed.
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If we were tied with Bonnies we’d hold the tiebreaker with them due to our win against them right?RF1 wrote: ↑4 years ago The St. Bonaventure loss at home to Duquesne last night makes it much more likely that URI will at worst be the 3rd seed in the A-10 Tournament. There had been a possible scenario whereby URI could have been tied with both Richmond and SBU for 2nd place but lost the tiebreakers and been assigned the #4 seed.
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If two teams are tied, yes it is head to head. If URI were to be just tied with SBU, it would be awarded the tiebreaker and get the better seed by virtue of its win in Olean.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 years agoIf we were tied with Bonnies we’d hold the tiebreaker with them due to our win against them right?RF1 wrote: ↑4 years ago The St. Bonaventure loss at home to Duquesne last night makes it much more likely that URI will at worst be the 3rd seed in the A-10 Tournament. There had been a possible scenario whereby URI could have been tied with both Richmond and SBU for 2nd place but lost the tiebreakers and been assigned the #4 seed.
It however gets more complicated with multi team ties. If URI, Richmond, and SBU had tied for 2nd place, all of their head to head records were 1-1. The next tiebreaker goes to record (win %) versus the top team in the A-10. Richmond and SBU only played Dayton once with each losing. URI had to play the Flyers twice and if they had lost next Wednesday, would been the #4 seed by my understanding.
There is a Dayton fan on their forum that tracks the probability of A-10 seeding based on projected odds for remaining games. After last night, URI has a 61.76% chance at the #2 seed and a 35.23% chance for the the #3 seed. It's odds of anything worse (4-6th are the only other possibilities) are 3.01%.
Link:
http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33589
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The latest update from LIBob @ udpride.com
98.73% chance of a double bye
Rhode Island Seed Probability as of games through yesterday.
98.73% chance of a double bye
Rhode Island Seed Probability as of games through yesterday.
- 2nd: 25.6%
- 3rd: 65.4%
- 4th: 8.0%
- 5th: 1.3%
- 6th: 0.00%
- 2nd would play Friday, March 13th at 6:00PM vs the winner of the 7 vs 10 (7 Davidson vs 10 George Washington )
- 3rd would play Friday, March 13th at 8:30PM vs the winner of the 6 vs 11/14 (6 Duquesne vs 11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
- 4th would play Friday, March 13th at 2:30PM vs the winner of the 5 vs 12/13 (5 St Bonaventure vs 12 George Mason / 13 St Joe's)
- 5th would play Thursday, March 12th at 2:30 PM vs the winner of the 11 vs 14 (11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
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An update... The predicted final standings (KenPom):
1. Dayton
2. Richmond
3. Rhode Island
4. Saint Louis
5. Duquesne
6. St. Bonaventure
7. Davidson
8. VCU
9. UMass
10. George Washington
11. La Salle
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joseph's
14. Fordham
1. Dayton
2. Richmond
3. Rhode Island
4. Saint Louis
5. Duquesne
6. St. Bonaventure
7. Davidson
8. VCU
9. UMass
10. George Washington
11. La Salle
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joseph's
14. Fordham
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I know finishing 3rd rather than 2nd has implications for Selection Sunday and not being the clear-cut #2 A-10 team, but it really doesn't matter that much in the conference tourney. I'd actually rather face Duquesne or LaSalle than Davidson on Friday, and then, if we were to win that, facing UR with them as the 2 and us as the 3 doesn't make any difference as opposed to them as the 3 and us as the 2. We just need to avoid the 4 and stay out of UD's half of the bracket until the championship game.NickA wrote: ↑4 years ago The latest update from LIBob @ udpride.com
98.73% chance of a double bye
Rhode Island Seed Probability as of games through yesterday.Based on the above, these are the potential game-times and opponents as of games through yesterday.
- 2nd: 25.6%
- 3rd: 65.4%
- 4th: 8.0%
- 5th: 1.3%
- 6th: 0.00%
- 2nd would play Friday, March 13th at 6:00PM vs the winner of the 7 vs 10 (7 Davidson vs 10 George Washington )
- 3rd would play Friday, March 13th at 8:30PM vs the winner of the 6 vs 11/14 (6 Duquesne vs 11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
- 4th would play Friday, March 13th at 2:30PM vs the winner of the 5 vs 12/13 (5 St Bonaventure vs 12 George Mason / 13 St Joe's)
- 5th would play Thursday, March 12th at 2:30 PM vs the winner of the 11 vs 14 (11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
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That's mainly true. But being 3rd gives you the latest game of the quarterfinals, followed by a quick turnaround the next day for around 3:30pm start, so that's another reason to be better in 2nd place.mjg13x wrote: ↑4 years agoI know finishing 3rd rather than 2nd has implications for Selection Sunday and not being the clear-cut #2 A-10 team, but it really doesn't matter that much in the conference tourney. I'd actually rather face Duquesne or LaSalle than Davidson on Friday, and then, if we were to win that, facing UR with them as the 2 and us as the 3 doesn't make any difference as opposed to them as the 3 and us as the 2. We just need to avoid the 4 and stay out of UD's half of the bracket until the championship game.NickA wrote: ↑4 years ago The latest update from LIBob @ udpride.com
98.73% chance of a double bye
Rhode Island Seed Probability as of games through yesterday.Based on the above, these are the potential game-times and opponents as of games through yesterday.
- 2nd: 25.6%
- 3rd: 65.4%
- 4th: 8.0%
- 5th: 1.3%
- 6th: 0.00%
- 2nd would play Friday, March 13th at 6:00PM vs the winner of the 7 vs 10 (7 Davidson vs 10 George Washington )
- 3rd would play Friday, March 13th at 8:30PM vs the winner of the 6 vs 11/14 (6 Duquesne vs 11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
- 4th would play Friday, March 13th at 2:30PM vs the winner of the 5 vs 12/13 (5 St Bonaventure vs 12 George Mason / 13 St Joe's)
- 5th would play Thursday, March 12th at 2:30 PM vs the winner of the 11 vs 14 (11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
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That's a good point - but I'd take LaSalle/Dukes and a later game we absolutely should win over an earlier start against a Davidson team that owns ussteviep123 wrote: ↑4 years agoThat's mainly true. But being 3rd gives you the latest game of the quarterfinals, followed by a quick turnaround the next day for around 3:30pm start, so that's another reason to be better in 2nd place.mjg13x wrote: ↑4 years agoI know finishing 3rd rather than 2nd has implications for Selection Sunday and not being the clear-cut #2 A-10 team, but it really doesn't matter that much in the conference tourney. I'd actually rather face Duquesne or LaSalle than Davidson on Friday, and then, if we were to win that, facing UR with them as the 2 and us as the 3 doesn't make any difference as opposed to them as the 3 and us as the 2. We just need to avoid the 4 and stay out of UD's half of the bracket until the championship game.NickA wrote: ↑4 years ago The latest update from LIBob @ udpride.com
98.73% chance of a double bye
Rhode Island Seed Probability as of games through yesterday.Based on the above, these are the potential game-times and opponents as of games through yesterday.
- 2nd: 25.6%
- 3rd: 65.4%
- 4th: 8.0%
- 5th: 1.3%
- 6th: 0.00%
- 2nd would play Friday, March 13th at 6:00PM vs the winner of the 7 vs 10 (7 Davidson vs 10 George Washington )
- 3rd would play Friday, March 13th at 8:30PM vs the winner of the 6 vs 11/14 (6 Duquesne vs 11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
- 4th would play Friday, March 13th at 2:30PM vs the winner of the 5 vs 12/13 (5 St Bonaventure vs 12 George Mason / 13 St Joe's)
- 5th would play Thursday, March 12th at 2:30 PM vs the winner of the 11 vs 14 (11 LaSalle / 14 Fordham)
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Looking at the bracket for the A10 tournament, isn't it an unfair advantage to have less teams in your conference come tournament time? If URI gets a double bye, they still have to win 4 games (with 14 teams)
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They only have to win 3...Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑4 years ago Looking at the bracket for the A10 tournament, isn't it an unfair advantage to have less teams in your conference come tournament time? If URI gets a double bye, they still have to win 4 games (with 14 teams)
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A double bye in the A-10 Tournament translates to three games - Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑4 years ago Looking at the bracket for the A10 tournament, isn't it an unfair advantage to have less teams in your conference come tournament time? If URI gets a double bye, they still have to win 4 games (with 14 teams)
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You are correct, my mistake, I counted the winner line as a game on the bracket.
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So can URI still end up without being in the Bye Group of 4? Is it possible we play Thursday?
This from the Dayton board earlier this week.
Rhody drops their last 2 to get to 6 losses. Ends up in a tie w/ SLU & Duquesne @ 6 losses. So the first tie breaker is head to head in the group. Duquesne, by virture of their 2 wins over SLU would be 2-1. SLU would be 1-2, Rhody would be 1-1 (beat Duquesne, lost to SLU). So Duquesne gets the 3 seed. Then the tie breaker is re-done, SLU vs Rhody, which SLU won, so SLU gets the 4, Rhody ends up with the 5 seed.
Looks to me that URI is in trouble if:
1. URI loses Saturday night to UMASS
2. Duquesne beats Richmond at Duquesne Friday night
3. St Louis beats St Bonaventure at Saint Louis Saturday night
On the Dayton post game show, at the very end of the show, I heard Steve telling Don and Chris Disano that URI would be playing Friday in NY. To which Chris said, hold on, I thought I saw somewhere that URI could still not be guaranteed in the round of 4 bye teams.
Looks to me like URI better beat UMASS.
Remaining Games
Friday
Richmond @ Duquesne 7pm. Richmond -1
VCU @ Davidson 9pm Davidson -4
Saturday
URI @ UMASS 7pm
St Bonaventure @ St Louis 8pm
George Washington @ Dayton 7pm
LaSalle @ St Josephs 2pm
George Mason @ Fordham 2pm
This from the Dayton board earlier this week.
Rhody drops their last 2 to get to 6 losses. Ends up in a tie w/ SLU & Duquesne @ 6 losses. So the first tie breaker is head to head in the group. Duquesne, by virture of their 2 wins over SLU would be 2-1. SLU would be 1-2, Rhody would be 1-1 (beat Duquesne, lost to SLU). So Duquesne gets the 3 seed. Then the tie breaker is re-done, SLU vs Rhody, which SLU won, so SLU gets the 4, Rhody ends up with the 5 seed.
Looks to me that URI is in trouble if:
1. URI loses Saturday night to UMASS
2. Duquesne beats Richmond at Duquesne Friday night
3. St Louis beats St Bonaventure at Saint Louis Saturday night
On the Dayton post game show, at the very end of the show, I heard Steve telling Don and Chris Disano that URI would be playing Friday in NY. To which Chris said, hold on, I thought I saw somewhere that URI could still not be guaranteed in the round of 4 bye teams.
Looks to me like URI better beat UMASS.
Remaining Games
Friday
Richmond @ Duquesne 7pm. Richmond -1
VCU @ Davidson 9pm Davidson -4
Saturday
URI @ UMASS 7pm
St Bonaventure @ St Louis 8pm
George Washington @ Dayton 7pm
LaSalle @ St Josephs 2pm
George Mason @ Fordham 2pm
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I think you are right Rambone
Good thing we got that miracle win at Fordham
This from Saint Louis board
https://www.billikens.com/forum/index.p ... ng/page/2/
Good thing we got that miracle win at Fordham
This from Saint Louis board
https://www.billikens.com/forum/index.p ... ng/page/2/
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Very simply: we are playing as the 3 seed at 8:30 or the 4 seed at 2:30.ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago So can URI still end up without being in the Bye Group of 4? Is it possible we play Thursday?
This from the Dayton board earlier this week.
Rhody drops their last 2 to get to 6 losses. Ends up in a tie w/ SLU & Duquesne @ 6 losses. So the first tie breaker is head to head in the group. Duquesne, by virture of their 2 wins over SLU would be 2-1. SLU would be 1-2, Rhody would be 1-1 (beat Duquesne, lost to SLU). So Duquesne gets the 3 seed. Then the tie breaker is re-done, SLU vs Rhody, which SLU won, so SLU gets the 4, Rhody ends up with the 5 seed.
Looks to me that URI is in trouble if:
1. URI loses Saturday night to UMASS
2. Duquesne beats Richmond at Duquesne Friday night
3. St Louis beats St Bonaventure at Saint Louis Saturday night
On the Dayton post game show, at the very end of the show, I heard Steve telling Don and Chris Disano that URI would be playing Friday in NY. To which Chris said, hold on, I thought I saw somewhere that URI could still not be guaranteed in the round of 4 bye teams.
Looks to me like URI better beat UMASS.
Remaining Games
Friday
Richmond @ Duquesne 7pm. Richmond -1
VCU @ Davidson 9pm Davidson -4
Saturday
URI @ UMASS 7pm
St Bonaventure @ St Louis 8pm
George Washington @ Dayton 7pm
LaSalle @ St Josephs 2pm
George Mason @ Fordham 2pm
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We are the 3 seed if - we win OR St. Louis loses.
We are the 4 seed if - we lose AND St. Louis wins.
We own the tie breakers (head to head) against St Bonnies and Duquesne.
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Disano said there is a way we could end up 5th. If we end up in a 3 way tie with 2 others (I forgot which 2), we lose the 3 way tiebreaker. Is he wrong?
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You must have misheard because I can't fathom Chris being wrong about this.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 years ago Disano said there is a way we could end up 5th. If we end up in a 3 way tie with 2 others (I forgot which 2), we lose the 3 way tiebreaker. Is he wrong?
But the only 6 loss team we do not have the tie breaker over (1st tie breaker is head to head) is St Louis.
We are 1-0 against St Bonnies and 1-0 against Duquesne. We can only finish 4th if we lose and STL wins.
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No, I was listening to the post game as well and Chris said he thought we could end up 5th. Either he was off (and it's hard to blame him at that hour after that game) or some people on the internet we've been looking at have the tie breakers wrong
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Beat UMass and get that 3 seed to stop some suffering pleaaase.
If any team in the A-10 has shown they can beat Dayton its Saint Louis.
1 seeds in the A-10 almost never win it all.
If any team in the A-10 has shown they can beat Dayton its Saint Louis.
1 seeds in the A-10 almost never win it all.
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But this was not a head to head tie breaker. It's different if it's a 3 way tie.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoYou must have misheard because I can't fathom Chris being wrong about this.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 years ago Disano said there is a way we could end up 5th. If we end up in a 3 way tie with 2 others (I forgot which 2), we lose the 3 way tiebreaker. Is he wrong?
But the only 6 loss team we do not have the tie breaker over (1st tie breaker is head to head) is St Louis.
We are 1-0 against St Bonnies and 1-0 against Duquesne. We can only finish 4th if we lose and STL wins.
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Hi everyone. I was wrong. I'd seen something from a reputable St. Bonaventure blog as I was walking from the presser to the table to mic up; so I went with that... since then, I looked into it and my understanding has changed. Basically, if URI loses and ends up tied with Saint Louis and Duquesne (which is the scenario I pitched the other night) then the "composite head-to-head" determines the order. If "one-step" breaks the tie -- meaning everyone has distinguishable records in that scenario, then that's it.
So applying it to SLU, Duq, URI, we'd have:
Duquesne 2-1 (Beat SLU twice, lost to URI)
URI 1-1 (Beat Duq; lost to SLU)
SLU 1-2 (Beat URI, lost to Duq twice)
Since there is not a second tie event here and there is a clear hierarchy here, URI clearly remains in the double-bye status. You can run other scenarios too (i.e. if URI loses and Bonas beats SLU and then Bonas, URI, Duq are tied)... and that's initial step to determine top 4. There Rhody would be 2-0, SBU would be 2-1, and Duquesne 1-2 -- I believe, but check it.
Thanks and hope this helps. New article coming out on Yurview today discussing a few areas that must be rehabbed.
-Chris
So applying it to SLU, Duq, URI, we'd have:
Duquesne 2-1 (Beat SLU twice, lost to URI)
URI 1-1 (Beat Duq; lost to SLU)
SLU 1-2 (Beat URI, lost to Duq twice)
Since there is not a second tie event here and there is a clear hierarchy here, URI clearly remains in the double-bye status. You can run other scenarios too (i.e. if URI loses and Bonas beats SLU and then Bonas, URI, Duq are tied)... and that's initial step to determine top 4. There Rhody would be 2-0, SBU would be 2-1, and Duquesne 1-2 -- I believe, but check it.
Thanks and hope this helps. New article coming out on Yurview today discussing a few areas that must be rehabbed.
-Chris
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If there is a three way tie between URI, Duquesne, and SBU, the records against one another are: URI 2-0, SBU 1-2, and Duquense 1-2. URI beat both (H&A). SBU and Duquesne split their series with each winning on the other's court. Rhody would win the tiebreaker outright. the next tiebreaker would have to be used for SBU and Duquesne since they had the same records in the three way tiebreaker. I believe the next criteria is versus the top team (and down if again tied) and Duquesne would lose out with two losses to Dayton.Chris DiSano wrote: ↑4 years ago Hi everyone. I was wrong. I'd seen something from a reputable St. Bonaventure blog as I was walking from the presser to the table to mic up; so I went with that... since then, I looked into it and my understanding has changed. Basically, if URI loses and ends up tied with Saint Louis and Duquesne (which is the scenario I pitched the other night) then the "composite head-to-head" determines the order. If "one-step" breaks the tie -- meaning everyone has distinguishable records in that scenario, then that's it.
So applying it to SLU, Duq, URI, we'd have:
Duquesne 2-1 (Beat SLU twice, lost to URI)
URI 1-1 (Beat Duq; lost to SLU)
SLU 1-2 (Beat URI, lost to Duq twice)
Since there is not a second tie event here and there is a clear hierarchy here, URI clearly remains in the double-bye status. You can run other scenarios too (i.e. if URI loses and Bonas beats SLU and then Bonas, URI, Duq are tied)... and that's initial step to determine top 4. There Rhody would be 2-0, SBU would be 2-1, and Duquesne 1-2 -- I believe, but check it.
Thanks and hope this helps. New article coming out on Yurview today discussing a few areas that must be rehabbed.
-Chris
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Nope. I was listening. It was about an hour after the end of the game. Steve was saying we would have the bye.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoYou must have misheard because I can't fathom Chris being wrong about this.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 years ago Disano said there is a way we could end up 5th. If we end up in a 3 way tie with 2 others (I forgot which 2), we lose the 3 way tiebreaker. Is he wrong?
But the only 6 loss team we do not have the tie breaker over (1st tie breaker is head to head) is St Louis.
We are 1-0 against St Bonnies and 1-0 against Duquesne. We can only finish 4th if we lose and STL wins.
Chris said he wasn’t so sure as he had heard somewhere that the 5th seed could be possible. In Chris’ defense he was only saying what he had heard, he did not say he knew for sure.
The good news Chris, is that you have at least 3 people listening to the show at midnight after a loss like that! Billyboy, RR2 and myself. Let the advertisers know
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I normally love the post game show but I needed to disconnect after that one.ramster wrote: ↑4 years agoNope. I was listening. It was about an hour after the end of the game. Steve was saying we would have the bye.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years agoYou must have misheard because I can't fathom Chris being wrong about this.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 years ago Disano said there is a way we could end up 5th. If we end up in a 3 way tie with 2 others (I forgot which 2), we lose the 3 way tiebreaker. Is he wrong?
But the only 6 loss team we do not have the tie breaker over (1st tie breaker is head to head) is St Louis.
We are 1-0 against St Bonnies and 1-0 against Duquesne. We can only finish 4th if we lose and STL wins.
Chris said he wasn’t so sure as he had heard somewhere that the 5th seed could be possible. In Chris’ defense he was only saying what he had heard, he did not say he knew for sure.
The good news Chris, is that you have at least 3 people listening to the show at midnight after a loss like that! Billyboy, RR2 and myself. Let the advertisers know
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It looks like the Bonnies will be the fifth seed if they lose to St Louis tonight. They would have an identical 11-7 record as Duquesne. They split their two games and I believe their win against Richmond would break the tie.
My first thought was that Rhody needs to beat UMASS to get that third seed and play Duquesne rather than St Bonnie. This also means staying on the opposite side of the bracket from Dayton. Then I thought, if we don’t play well tonight, it won’t matter who the quarterfinal opponent is. It will likely be one and done.
My first thought was that Rhody needs to beat UMASS to get that third seed and play Duquesne rather than St Bonnie. This also means staying on the opposite side of the bracket from Dayton. Then I thought, if we don’t play well tonight, it won’t matter who the quarterfinal opponent is. It will likely be one and done.
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George Mason (16-15) won at Fordham today and LaSalle (15-15) won at St Joseph's. That means that TEN of the fourteen A-10 teams will finish the regular season (not counting the tourney in Brooklyn) with a .500 or better record. Only Fordham, St Joe's, GW, and UMass will have losing records after today.
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After the early games:
1. Dayton
2. Richmond
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Davidson
8. UMass
9. VCU
10. LaSalle
11. George Washington
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joe's
14. Fordham
URI & SLU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Louis
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
URI & SBU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Duquesne
6. St. Louis
URI LOSS & SLU WIN
3. St. Louis
4. URI
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
URI LOSS & SBU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Duquesne
6. St. Louis
1. Dayton
2. Richmond
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Davidson
8. UMass
9. VCU
10. LaSalle
11. George Washington
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joe's
14. Fordham
URI & SLU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Louis
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
URI & SBU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Duquesne
6. St. Louis
URI LOSS & SLU WIN
3. St. Louis
4. URI
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
URI LOSS & SBU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Duquesne
6. St. Louis
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
The best scenario here is a Rhody Win and SLU win.RamFaninSF wrote: ↑4 years ago After the early games:
1. Dayton
2. Richmond
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Davidson
8. UMass
9. VCU
10. LaSalle
11. George Washington
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joe's
14. Fordham
URI & SLU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Louis
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
URI & SBU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Duquesne
6. St. Louis
URI LOSS & SLU WIN
3. St. Louis
4. URI
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
URI LOSS & SBU WIN
3. URI
4. St. Bonaventure
5. Duquesne
6. St. Louis
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
How the mighty have fallen. VCU is a 9 seed in the 14 team A-10. They were the overwhelming preseason pick for #1.
The early predictions for URI appear to pretty much spot on as our Rams were picked 4th. Will either finish 3rd or 4th today depending on the outcomes of the remaining games. Predictions were off for several teams with Richmond being the most undervalued and Davidson joining VCU as the most overvalued.
A-10 PRESEASON POLL (First-place votes in parenthesis)
1. VCU (19) ............................................................ 381
2. Davidson (8) .................................................... 359
3. Dayton (1) ......................................................... 341
4. Rhode Island ................................................... 283
5. St. Bonaventure .............................................. 280
6. Richmond ......................................................... 248
7. Saint Louis ........................................................ 225
8. Duquesne ........................................................ 196
9. George Mason ................................................ 185
10. La Salle .............................................................. 133
11. Massachusetts ................................................ 103
12. George Washington ..................................... 93
13. Saint Joseph’s ................................................. 65
14. Fordham ........................................................... 48
The early predictions for URI appear to pretty much spot on as our Rams were picked 4th. Will either finish 3rd or 4th today depending on the outcomes of the remaining games. Predictions were off for several teams with Richmond being the most undervalued and Davidson joining VCU as the most overvalued.
A-10 PRESEASON POLL (First-place votes in parenthesis)
1. VCU (19) ............................................................ 381
2. Davidson (8) .................................................... 359
3. Dayton (1) ......................................................... 341
4. Rhode Island ................................................... 283
5. St. Bonaventure .............................................. 280
6. Richmond ......................................................... 248
7. Saint Louis ........................................................ 225
8. Duquesne ........................................................ 196
9. George Mason ................................................ 185
10. La Salle .............................................................. 133
11. Massachusetts ................................................ 103
12. George Washington ..................................... 93
13. Saint Joseph’s ................................................. 65
14. Fordham ........................................................... 48
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
St Louis is up by 20 with just under 8 minutes left. I can't see the Bonnies coming back from that on the road. With the Billikens winning, this will be the A-10 Tournament seeding:
1. Dayton
2. Richmond
3. URI
4. St. Louis
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
7. Davidson
8. UMass
9. VCU
10. LaSalle
11. George Washington
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joe's
14. Fordham
1. Dayton
2. Richmond
3. URI
4. St. Louis
5. St. Bonaventure
6. Duquesne
7. Davidson
8. UMass
9. VCU
10. LaSalle
11. George Washington
12. George Mason
13. Saint Joe's
14. Fordham
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
13-5 in conference is better than I hoped for. At least I like the draw of Duquesne better than Davidson, Bona, or VCU.
SLU is going to beat Dayton
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
I love the bracket for us. Possibly Duquesne in our first game. And then Richmond. Could not have ended up any better for us on matchups. Granted I know we are not going in on a roll but I believe we can win both games.
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We better.
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
I felt better about URI’s chances to get to the Finals last as the 8 seed than this year as the 3 seed. Came in on a nice winning streak last year. Have played poorly 7 games in a row now. Weakest 3 seed I can remember.
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
I’m not sure where we got this idea that Richmond is some trash team this year - but they are much better and much more consistent than us.
Considering that we haven’t been able to convincingly beat anyone in the last 3 weeks - I’m not sure how anyone has confidence going into this weekend.
Anything could happen - but the blasé attitude towards Richmond all year has been wild to me.
We have sucked for a month. Let’s really take this one game at a time.
Considering that we haven’t been able to convincingly beat anyone in the last 3 weeks - I’m not sure how anyone has confidence going into this weekend.
Anything could happen - but the blasé attitude towards Richmond all year has been wild to me.
We have sucked for a month. Let’s really take this one game at a time.
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
Richmond is good 83 i agree but would rather face them instead of SLU dayton before the finals.
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
I’m pretty sure teams and their fans in the A-10 are saying “nice URI is in our bracket, now we have a shot to move forward in a favorable side”Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years ago I’m not sure where we got this idea that Richmond is some trash team this year - but they are much better and much more consistent than us.
Considering that we haven’t been able to convincingly beat anyone in the last 3 weeks - I’m not sure how anyone has confidence going into this weekend.
Anything could happen - but the blasé attitude towards Richmond all year has been wild to me.
We have sucked for a month. Let’s really take this one game at a time.
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
Richmond will kill us with their methodical Offensive style and high IQ play. Unless we go into Brooklyn with a flip the script approach and try to play defense like we did during the 10 game winning streak, because our offense isn't going to carry us very far.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years ago I’m not sure where we got this idea that Richmond is some trash team this year - but they are much better and much more consistent than us.
Considering that we haven’t been able to convincingly beat anyone in the last 3 weeks - I’m not sure how anyone has confidence going into this weekend.
Anything could happen - but the blasé attitude towards Richmond all year has been wild to me.
We have sucked for a month. Let’s really take this one game at a time.
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Its TP's fault....Blue Man wrote: ↑4 years ago I’m not sure where we got this idea that Richmond is some trash team this year - but they are much better and much more consistent than us.
Considering that we haven’t been able to convincingly beat anyone in the last 3 weeks - I’m not sure how anyone has confidence going into this weekend.
Anything could happen - but the blasé attitude towards Richmond all year has been wild to me.
We have sucked for a month. Let’s really take this one game at a time.
I've watched the Spidahz all year including when they beat Wisconsin and played Auburn really tough back in November.
They've been really good all year.
They have good size. They play pretty good defense. They actually have some athletes this year. They can SHOOT. They have great ball movement. Have an experienced coach.
They are obviously very good.
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
Still don’t think they’re good. I’ve explained why numerous times so I’m not going to do it again now. But the thing that has changed for me is that I don’t think we are very good, either, or at least we aren’t playing well over the last month.
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Re: 2020 A10 Tournament Talk
At some point you can just say you’re wrong though?
Or on the otherside I can just respect the blind commitment to an incomplete opinion.
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