Bingo.RamStock wrote: ↑4 years ago Nobody likes this game. It is one of those games that you wish you forgot about than checked the score and saw that we won. It doesn’t matter if it is by 1 or 30. Let’s be honest if we can’t beat a 7-19 team that has little going for it and no home court advantage than are we deserving of a NCAA tournament bid?
The fact that our recent record vs. Fordham is less than stellar.
I hear that, but this is also the worst team Fordham has had in 10 years (based on W/L record).
And how much of that losing 3 of our last 4 (including 2 of all places in the Ryan Center) was at least partly because we were not scared of them and gave them little or no respect?
We got Craig Stewart once. Someone described him as "the biggest project since (the) Manhattan (Project)."
Agreed. I'm not sure if I remember anyone seriously thinking 3-3 in the last 6 after the first Dayton game would have been fine. I remember personally thinking 4-2 at minimum and only if the 2 losses came from the Davidson/Dayton/SLU trio. If a loss came in the St. Joe's/Fordham/UMass trio, then beating Dayton would have been a must. I saw no path with 3-3 unless Dayton was one of the victories (and even that would be a stretch). 5-1 (meaning 4-0 the rest of the way) would be ideal.ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago The disaster of a loss to Davidson made all remaining games worrisome.
When you get to where you cannot under any circumstances lose @Fordham, Saint Louis and @ UMASS then Things change
At least I’m not hearing that nonsense that we will be ok even if we lose 3 of our last 6 games. That was never an option.
There were people who said that 3-3 would be enough. I think the next two games are the ones that we have a ton of pressure on us. If we get to the Dayton game with two wins under our belt I think we can play a little more relaxed (but pedal to the medal) at home as the underdog. Lose Fordham and we are done. Lose to St.Louis and 100% the Dayton and Umass games are must winsteviep123 wrote: ↑4 years agoAgreed. I'm not sure if I remember anyone seriously thinking 3-3 in the last 6 after the first Dayton game would have been fine. I remember personally thinking 4-2 at minimum and only if the 2 losses came from the Davidson/Dayton/SLU trio. If a loss came in the St. Joe's/Fordham/UMass trio, then beating Dayton would have been a must. I saw no path with 3-3 unless Dayton was one of the victories (and even that would be a stretch). 5-1 (meaning 4-0 the rest of the way) would be ideal.ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago The disaster of a loss to Davidson made all remaining games worrisome.
When you get to where you cannot under any circumstances lose @Fordham, Saint Louis and @ UMASS then Things change
At least I’m not hearing that nonsense that we will be ok even if we lose 3 of our last 6 games. That was never an option.
Well now you are talking about something different though. Of course the players and coaches need to respect every opponent and not look past or underestimate anyone. My comment was more about fans though.ramster wrote: ↑4 years agoAnd how much of that losing 3 of our last 4 (including 2 of all places in the Ryan Center) was at least partly because we were not scared of them and gave them little or no respect?
We must win Fordham, St Louis and UMASS. Can’t underestimate any of these 3 teams. Road games at Fordham and UMASS are almost never easy.
that's pretty amazing - let's end that Wednesday eveningSmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years ago This thought came into my mind and I did some research to confirm... it's indeed true.
To be fair Cox has only been head coach for one game against Fordham, correct?bkoeppen wrote: ↑4 years agothat's pretty amazing - let's end that Wednesday eveningSmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years ago This thought came into my mind and I did some research to confirm... it's indeed true.
Correct. He has coached more than one game against every team except Fordham and Saint Louis.steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years agoTo be fair Cox has only been head coach for one game against Fordham, correct?bkoeppen wrote: ↑4 years agothat's pretty amazing - let's end that Wednesday eveningSmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years ago This thought came into my mind and I did some research to confirm... it's indeed true.
pretty sure they played St louis twice last year, going 1-1.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years agoCorrect. He has coached more than one game against every team except Fordham and Saint Louis.steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years agoTo be fair Cox has only been head coach for one game against Fordham, correct?
this is correct. Each team won on their homecourtbkoeppen wrote: ↑4 years agopretty sure they played St louis twice last year, going 1-1.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑4 years agoCorrect. He has coached more than one game against every team except Fordham and Saint Louis.steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years ago
To be fair Cox has only been head coach for one game against Fordham, correct?
I think most people could care less about the NIT. I would rather not even make the NIT if they weren’t in the tourney. Useless games that have no excitement. Hopefully we don’t get to that point. It would great to get a huge game Tuesday with two wins.rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago We lose this game, and the new topic of conversation becomes, do you think we'll be a #1 seed or a #2 seed, in the NIT...
More of an anomaly than an embarrassment. Three of those 6 losses did come during the three year bottoming out at the end of the Baron era and beginning of the Hurley era at the beginning of the decade, but since then URI has been about 40 games over .500 in the conference which is either the best or close to the best record in the conference during that time. Losing three times to Fordham in that stretch is just kind of a weird thing, like how the Red Sox would struggle with the Rays during the late Pedro era when the Red Sox were contending for pennants and the Rays were losing 100+ games per year. I don’t think that kinda weird history will matter a ton tomorrow when the game really really matters to us (hopefully).
TruePoint wrote: ↑4 years agoMore of an anomaly than an embarrassment. Three of those 6 losses did come during the three year bottoming out at the end of the Baron era and beginning of the Hurley era at the beginning of the decade, but since then URI has been about 40 games over .500 in the conference which is either the best or close to the best record in the conference during that time. Losing three times to Fordham in that stretch is just kind of a weird thing, like how the Red Sox would struggle with the Rays during the late Pedro era when the Red Sox were contending for pennants and the Rays were losing 100+ games per year. I don’t think that kinda weird history will matter a ton tomorrow when the game really really matters to us (hopefully).
NETPeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years agoTruePoint wrote: ↑4 years agoMore of an anomaly than an embarrassment. Three of those 6 losses did come during the three year bottoming out at the end of the Baron era and beginning of the Hurley era at the beginning of the decade, but since then URI has been about 40 games over .500 in the conference which is either the best or close to the best record in the conference during that time. Losing three times to Fordham in that stretch is just kind of a weird thing, like how the Red Sox would struggle with the Rays during the late Pedro era when the Red Sox were contending for pennants and the Rays were losing 100+ games per year. I don’t think that kinda weird history will matter a ton tomorrow when the game really really matters to us (hopefully).
Yeah it makes more sense to look at it game by game instead of a trend.
In 16 we were just an emotionally beaten team without EC.
In 17 we lost that after a crushing home loss to Dayton. We were just emotionally wrecked going in.
Last year, we were just young and really dumb. We really snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory in that one. They had Nick Honor who was hitting big shots and who was a high major player for them.
This year they dont have a Nick Honor or a Jon Severe.
We would have to fall completely apart to lose.
Worse than Brown.
Brown is a better team than Fordham.
It wont be easy, but we shouldn't worry ourselves to death over this until Fordham actually gives us a reason to.
Yeah I agree. Focus. Play hard. Easy win.ramster wrote: ↑4 years agoNETPeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years agoTruePoint wrote: ↑4 years ago
More of an anomaly than an embarrassment. Three of those 6 losses did come during the three year bottoming out at the end of the Baron era and beginning of the Hurley era at the beginning of the decade, but since then URI has been about 40 games over .500 in the conference which is either the best or close to the best record in the conference during that time. Losing three times to Fordham in that stretch is just kind of a weird thing, like how the Red Sox would struggle with the Rays during the late Pedro era when the Red Sox were contending for pennants and the Rays were losing 100+ games per year. I don’t think that kinda weird history will matter a ton tomorrow when the game really really matters to us (hopefully).
Yeah it makes more sense to look at it game by game instead of a trend.
In 16 we were just an emotionally beaten team without EC.
In 17 we lost that after a crushing home loss to Dayton. We were just emotionally wrecked going in.
Last year, we were just young and really dumb. We really snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory in that one. They had Nick Honor who was hitting big shots and who was a high major player for them.
This year they dont have a Nick Honor or a Jon Severe.
We would have to fall completely apart to lose.
Worse than Brown.
Brown is a better team than Fordham.
It wont be easy, but we shouldn't worry ourselves to death over this until Fordham actually gives us a reason to.
Fordham 277
Brown 233
They are both bad
We have lost 3 of our last 4 to Fordham.
There are no amount of excuses to explain losses to Brown or Fordham
Just need to man up.
I say give him the green light.ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago I hope Jacob Toppin gets more minutes tonight seeing as how Ossining HIgh School is only about 25 miles from Fordham. Should be lots of friends and family on hand tonight.
https://fordhamsports.com/news/2020/2/2 ... esday.aspx
He had 3 or 4 go to the basket moves against St. Joe's! I want more of that!PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years agoI say give him the green light.ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago I hope Jacob Toppin gets more minutes tonight seeing as how Ossining HIgh School is only about 25 miles from Fordham. Should be lots of friends and family on hand tonight.
https://fordhamsports.com/news/2020/2/2 ... esday.aspx
He has had multiple double figure games.
I wanna see him take it to the hoop more. Hes so athletic and hes got good touch around the rim.
At least let him loose against a team like Fordham.
Hes a walking mismatch just like his brother!steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years agoHe had 3 or 4 go to the basket moves against St. Joe's! I want more of that!PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years agoI say give him the green light.ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago I hope Jacob Toppin gets more minutes tonight seeing as how Ossining HIgh School is only about 25 miles from Fordham. Should be lots of friends and family on hand tonight.
https://fordhamsports.com/news/2020/2/2 ... esday.aspx
He has had multiple double figure games.
I wanna see him take it to the hoop more. Hes so athletic and hes got good touch around the rim.
At least let him loose against a team like Fordham.
Toppin’s last 5 games he has played only 10,18,15,11,14PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years agoHes a walking mismatch just like his brother!steviep123 wrote: ↑4 years agoHe had 3 or 4 go to the basket moves against St. Joe's! I want more of that!PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 years ago
I say give him the green light.
He has had multiple double figure games.
I wanna see him take it to the hoop more. Hes so athletic and hes got good touch around the rim.
At least let him loose against a team like Fordham.
He is a little bambi like of course, but still he can do a lot.
