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RamStock wrote: 4 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 4 years ago
CHICO 78 wrote: 4 years ago We really need a serviceable big out of these
Remaining scholy's! Then a LIGHTS OUT SHOOTER!!
Just once sacrifice a little on the "great on ball defensive" and
Great athlete side for a passable defense great SHOOTER
Guy!! The great SHOOTER,great defender,great athlete package is a 5 star,
Usually ends up in P5! Jimmy Baron was a great SHOOTER and passable
Defense guy. Would he not be good enough to play for us now?

Well Leggett is a good shooter.

Sheppard is a great shooter.

Devale Johnson is a great shooter.

They will all play next year.

As far as next year is concerned we should improve quite a bit.
Leggett and Sheppard will be great additions. I don’t think Johnson ever contributes much of anything to URI. Just my feel. I don’t think he is an A-10 quality player
Probably not, but he is a great shooter.
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CHICO 78 wrote: 4 years ago We really need a serviceable big out of these
Remaining scholy's! Then a LIGHTS OUT SHOOTER!!
Just once sacrifice a little on the "great on ball defensive" and
Great athlete side for a passable defense great SHOOTER
Guy!! The great SHOOTER,great defender,great athlete package is a 5 star,
Usually ends up in P5! Jimmy Baron was a great SHOOTER and passable
Defense guy. Would he not be good enough to play for us now?
I agree with this take 100% except for the claim that Jimmy Baron was a “passable defense” guy. He was not passable when he came here, he was passable by the time he left. There are guys out there who are available who may even go D3 that can shoot like Jimmy but are below average athletes (as far as college basketball players go) and get overlooked. I also think that Cox won’t put them on them floor because of how much Defense matters in the system. I actually wonder sometimes how much PT Jimmy would have gotten if his dad wasn’t the coach (and that is not a slight on Jimmy who was a freakin awesome college basketball player, I just don’t know what coach would have lived with having to hide the defensive liability that he was early in his career here).
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My opinion? I don't know Cox any better than the rest of you, but if you think he's going to take a "pure shooter" ala Jimmy Baron, who can shoot the lights out but can't perform any other function on the floor at this level...

...over someone like Tres Berry, Bishop, Leggett, you're dreaming.

Do you see any of that happening on one of Hurley's teams? Have we seen that yet on a Cox team? That just isn't the plan.

These guys believe a defense is like a chain, meaning it's only as strong as your weakest link. That's why DJ was red shirted, who is apparently a Josh King like shooter.

Josh King would have been redshirted, by Cox or Hurley, for lack of defensive athleticism
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rhodyfan3000 wrote: 4 years ago My opinion? I don't know Cox any better than the rest of you, but if you think he's going to take a "pure shooter" ala Jimmy Baron, who can shoot the lights out but can't perform any other function on the floor at this level...

...over someone like Tres Berry, Bishop, Leggett, you're dreaming.

Do you see any of that happening on one of Hurley's teams? Have we seen that yet on a Cox team? That just isn't the plan.

These guys believe a defense is like a chain, meaning it's only as strong as your weakest link. That's why DJ was red shirted, who is apparently a Josh King like shooter.

Josh King would have been redshirted, by Cox or Hurley, for lack of defensive athleticism
I know that Cox LOVES length. An athlete with length will jump to the top of his charts because he believes the most important part of defense is shutting down passing and driving lanes. Tres definitely has that length for a guard.

To be fair Hurley did go and get a pure shooter in Four McGlynn, once he had his team in place. Unfortunately we never got to see what that team looked like because Four had to become the starter when EC went down.

I would expect Cox to do the same - IF - we have a deficiency there.

Fatts is very clearly a good shooter, and if he keeps getting better he could be a 40% 3 point guy. Sheppard has been reported to have a great shot. Leggett looks to have a stroke as well.

Either way, you never know how a shooter will be until they get to this level. Best to be more cautious and take the athlete who can do everything rather than the one-dimensional shooter.
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Agree with Blueman. Would add that Sheppard proved himself at this level his Fr year averaging 9+ points in the American. He is the best outside shooter on the current roster.
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RAMFAN wrote: 4 years ago Mentions the outside shot has improved

http://www.zachsmart.com/2020/01/stock- ... court.html
also mentions his 6'10" wingspan :shock:

Length: check
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I love players like Tres hope we get him to commit
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If I were an opposing team/coach I would feed Rhody a steady diet of zone until
we proved we could shoot over it. We are a streaky shooting team and Fatts
is the biggest example of streak shooter. When he's on he's virtually impossible to
stop and he's not he can't throw the ball in the ocean. Luckily he's been
on more often then not. He's a good free throw shooter and like it's been said
in the last 2-3 minutes of a game he's absolute money! If Berry can shoot I'm in, if
he's a slasher that can't shoot for S#!t move on to the next guy.
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I would love a sharpshooter, but I'm not passing on a kid like this.

Tres is the type of dude that will bully a one dimensional shooter on D and then dunk on him on the other end. Give me an athletic lockdown defender with an improving shot over a shooter who can't play D. That's just my style though.
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Have we ever had someone from Tennessee?
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Irv Chatman transferred from University of Tennessee.
Kuran Iverson and Dinno Daniels transferred from Memphis.
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steveystuds06 wrote: 4 years ago I would love a sharpshooter, but I'm not passing on a kid like this.

Tres is the type of dude that will bully a one dimensional shooter on D and then dunk on him on the other end. Give me an athletic lockdown defender with an improving shot over a shooter who can't play D every day. That's just my style though.

agreed, and it's pretty clear based on the fact that one of our best shooters is red shirting a year when we are thin, that a sharp shooter that can't otherwise ball isn't getting PT.

Also if DJ is still in the plans for next year as well as sheppard, we may have the shooters needed.
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Matthew Butler is from Tennessee.
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Rather have a guy with a developing shot that has a high athletic ceiling, than a sharp shooter that is a constant defensive liability.
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Tres is going to see a very good game on Friday.
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I like this recruit.....have a great visit....
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For anybody who would like to see Tres come here, you should follow him on twitter ahead of his visit. You don't have to tweet anything. These kids take notice on who follows them. https://twitter.com/tres_berry
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SlamRam wrote: 4 years ago He spells his own name wrong.....Norrance…. I don't like that in a recruit....
Please delete this. These kids read forums.
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I was just playing with Zach Smart and reckless jake….btw
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SmartyBarrett wrote: 4 years ago Matthew Butler is from Tennessee.
Ah right. Totally forgot about him
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Hopefully by this time next week this thread is pinned.
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DeanDome88 wrote: 4 years ago Hopefully by this time next week this thread is pinned.
I’d take that bet.
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DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago
DeanDome88 wrote: 4 years ago Hopefully by this time next week this thread is pinned.
I’d take that bet.
Confused. Didn’t see the bet offer. Are you saying you think that Berry will make a verbal commitment by next week?
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago
DeanDome88 wrote: 4 years ago Hopefully by this time next week this thread is pinned.
I’d take that bet.
Confused. Didn’t see the bet offer. Are you saying you think that Berry will make a verbal commitment by next week?
Lol reading too much into it. I’m saying I think we have a good shot
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If Berry and Odusipe both commit to URI, this team will be locked and reloaded next year. Oh man, watch out A10! I don't know how many spots are left, but getting Richards as well would be icing on the cake.
Friday is going to be nuts! Great game to attend!
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Is there any concern bringing in a 3rd guard with Wood and Leggett already committed and Fatts set to be here another year?
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Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago Is there any concern bringing in a 3rd guard with Wood and Leggett already committed and Fatts set to be here another year?
No, we need at least 4.
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Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago Is there any concern bringing in a 3rd guard with Wood and Leggett already committed and Fatts set to be here another year?
There should be no concern at all if we can lock down a player of Berry’s talent. It would be a great start with Leggett and Berry in the same backcourt. It would be a lot different than the depth at guard we have this year with Dowtin and Fatts playing almost the whole game
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Not to mention, Fatts will be a senior and so will Sheppard. So we will need a replacement to those guys.
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DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago Not to mention, Fatts will be a senior and so will Sheppard. So we will need a replacement to those guys.
Right. When Coach Cox gets hurt by a situation (last year having to rely on Fr and this year no backcourt depth with Sheppard ineligible) he vows to do everything he can to avoid that in the future. I am not saying he did anything wrong or that these situations are totally avoidable. If you use 13 scholarships effectively, you are going to have a backlog for a year sometimes at certain positions.

Wood (6’5”) and Berry (6’4”) could also be the 3 in a 3G offense later in their careers (like EC and Terrell).
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago Not to mention, Fatts will be a senior and so will Sheppard. So we will need a replacement to those guys.
Right. When Coach Cox gets hurt by a situation (last year having to rely on Fr and this year no backcourt depth with Sheppard ineligible) he vows to do everything he can to avoid that in the future. I am not saying he did anything wrong or that these situations are totally avoidable. If you use 13 scholarships effectively, you are going to have a backlog for a year sometimes at certain positions.

Wood (6’5”) and Berry (6’4”) could also be the 3 in a 3G offense later in their careers (like EC and Terrell).
Bingo.

And when Fatts leaves, our smallest player will be 6’3. We will be BIG.
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DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago
DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago Not to mention, Fatts will be a senior and so will Sheppard. So we will need a replacement to those guys.
Right. When Coach Cox gets hurt by a situation (last year having to rely on Fr and this year no backcourt depth with Sheppard ineligible) he vows to do everything he can to avoid that in the future. I am not saying he did anything wrong or that these situations are totally avoidable. If you use 13 scholarships effectively, you are going to have a backlog for a year sometimes at certain positions.

Wood (6’5”) and Berry (6’4”) could also be the 3 in a 3G offense later in their careers (like EC and Terrell).
Bingo.

And when Fatts leaves, our smallest player will be 6’3. We will be BIG.
We will also be losing one of the best players in URI history.
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Yeah to get three guards in here for next year will help a lot.

Rather run with three sophomores at guard in 21-22 than rely on freshman to do a lot of the heavy lifting.

Might still want a more experienced transfer in there for that season if its needed.

Although, we will still have Harris, Walker, Long, Toppin, maybe Devale and Tyrese at least for that season. We will still he seeing some big lineups from us, doubt we would need Wood, Leggett, and Berry to be out there all at the same time.

Get Berry and Akheem and we are looking great for the future.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 4 years ago
DC_Rams wrote: 4 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago

Right. When Coach Cox gets hurt by a situation (last year having to rely on Fr and this year no backcourt depth with Sheppard ineligible) he vows to do everything he can to avoid that in the future. I am not saying he did anything wrong or that these situations are totally avoidable. If you use 13 scholarships effectively, you are going to have a backlog for a year sometimes at certain positions.

Wood (6’5”) and Berry (6’4”) could also be the 3 in a 3G offense later in their careers (like EC and Terrell).
Bingo.

And when Fatts leaves, our smallest player will be 6’3. We will be BIG.
We will also be losing one of the best players in URI history.
Agreed.
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I’m like the idea of the 3 (if Berry comes here) but I guess what I should have asked is how would Wood/Leggett be with it. The latest trend seems to be guys bailing after not getting playing time-see Hammond. With Fatts/Sheppard and possibly these 3, there’s not many minutes to go around next year.
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Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago I’m like the idea of the 3 (if Berry comes here) but I guess what I should have asked is how would Wood/Leggett be with it. The latest trend seems to be guys bailing after not getting playing time-see Hammond. With Fatts/Sheppard and possibly these 3, there’s not many minutes to go around next year.
Leggett is good with it. He knows who Berry is but doesn’t know him personally.
Fyi, Leggett is 6’2”. So he would be the shortest of the known players for 21-22 season.
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Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago I’m like the idea of the 3 (if Berry comes here) but I guess what I should have asked is how would Wood/Leggett be with it. The latest trend seems to be guys bailing after not getting playing time-see Hammond. With Fatts/Sheppard and possibly these 3, there’s not many minutes to go around next year.
Leggett is not worried about losing playing time to anyone in this class. Wood is also ranked much much higher then Berry. I think this comment is better geared towards Berry he knows who Rhody already has and who the committed 20s are.
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FDshoes wrote: 4 years ago
Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago I’m like the idea of the 3 (if Berry comes here) but I guess what I should have asked is how would Wood/Leggett be with it. The latest trend seems to be guys bailing after not getting playing time-see Hammond. With Fatts/Sheppard and possibly these 3, there’s not many minutes to go around next year.
Leggett is not worried about losing playing time to anyone in this class. Wood is also ranked much much higher then Berry. I think this comment is better geared towards Berry he knows who Rhody already has and who the committed 20s are.
Rankings aren’t going to dictate who gets the playing time if/when the 3 get here
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Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago
FDshoes wrote: 4 years ago
Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago I’m like the idea of the 3 (if Berry comes here) but I guess what I should have asked is how would Wood/Leggett be with it. The latest trend seems to be guys bailing after not getting playing time-see Hammond. With Fatts/Sheppard and possibly these 3, there’s not many minutes to go around next year.
Leggett is not worried about losing playing time to anyone in this class. Wood is also ranked much much higher then Berry. I think this comment is better geared towards Berry he knows who Rhody already has and who the committed 20s are.
Rankings aren’t going to dictate who gets the playing time if/when the 3 get here

No doubt but rankings are something a kid considering a school will look at. He is coming here knowing Ish and Wood have already signed LOIs and are ranked/rated above him.

I hope he has the mentality of IDGAF i am better and will prove that. Will be better for all 3 battling for PT.
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FDshoes wrote: 4 years ago
Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago
FDshoes wrote: 4 years ago

Leggett is not worried about losing playing time to anyone in this class. Wood is also ranked much much higher then Berry. I think this comment is better geared towards Berry he knows who Rhody already has and who the committed 20s are.
Rankings aren’t going to dictate who gets the playing time if/when the 3 get here

No doubt but rankings are something a kid considering a school will look at. He is coming here knowing Ish and Wood have already signed LOIs and are ranked/rated above him.

I hope he has the mentality of IDGAF i am better and will prove that. Will be better for all 3 battling for PT.
The coaching staff will position so he clearly understands that 1) they want him and 2) no one is promised playing time; everyone earns it. There are several current roster examples the coaches can point to.
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Any IG handles for the guys to follow during their visit?
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CamsRams wrote: 4 years ago Any IG handles for the guys to follow during their visit?
IG (neither post much there)
Akeem is aodusipe
Berry is tres.berry
AAU team is bmazeelite (they post more than the players)

Twitter
Akeem doesn’t have a Twitter account
Berry is @tres_berry (he does tweet some)
AAU team is @BMazeElite
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Rhodyram wrote: 4 years ago I’m like the idea of the 3 (if Berry comes here) but I guess what I should have asked is how would Wood/Leggett be with it. The latest trend seems to be guys bailing after not getting playing time-see Hammond. With Fatts/Sheppard and possibly these 3, there’s not many minutes to go around next year.
But there will be 55-60 mins opening up their sophomore years. Need to sell them on the Fatts model.

As the team I like having all three because no matter how good they are in HS, there is no way all three are ready freshmen year to play tons of minutes on an A10 championship level team (which is what I think we still are next year with Fatts, Tyrese, Etc.)
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Berry and Akeem are on campus.
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Rhody83 wrote: 4 years ago Berry and Akeem are on campus.

Saw them behind the bench smiling on TV!
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I wonder if they are interested in playing with Fatts and Tyrese ?
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I venture to say they will not see many better environments on any other potential visits.
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What a game to impress recruits.
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